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Help Unrooting (Rooted with motochopper)

Hi Guys,
I rooted my Samsung S4 (GT-9505) using motochopper, but since discovered some of my apps don't work with a rooted device.
I would like to unroot it back to factory settings.
What do I need to do? Is it a case of downloading an official ROM and using ODIN to flash the official bios back on?
I have reset the counter with TRIANGLE but my device status is still 'custom' and not official.
Is there a simple way of removing the root that motochopper adds or is an official ROM the only way?
Im in the UK and would like to flash to the latest Vodafone ROM and unrooted as new.
Many thanks

First of all, there's no app that would stop working because of a rooted device. Rooting just gains you administrator privileges, nothing more, nothing less. And yes, the best way to unroot and get the official status back is to download and flash an official rom through Odin.
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techfreakgag said:
First of all, there's no app that would stop working because of a rooted device. Rooting just gains you administrator privileges, nothing more, nothing less. And yes, the best way to unroot and get the official status back is to download and flash an official rom through Odin.
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Many thanks for your reply,
Unfortunatly your wrong there, Barclays PingIt (my bank account) knows when a phone has been rooted and displays an error page saying its breaching security and stops the app from working!! Crazy I know.

You can uninstall super su then reboot the phone.
You can get instructions from the Exynos Abuse thread by chainfire. It's at the bottom.
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Hello there
I found that flixster wouldn't stream ultraviolet movies with root. I did find that using voodoo ota root keeper from play store helps that. Click on temp unroot, then when you've finished using that app that doesn't allow root, restore root. Unsure that this will work for you, but no harm in trying.
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I used this guide and it worked quite well. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2265477
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[Q] Bypass Flash Counter I 9500 - Flash Custom Recovery

Hi all,
Is it possible too flash a custom recovery via goo manager in a stock root injected I-9500 ?
If yes then wouldn't we be able to flash roms without odin via the recovery and the flash counter would remain at zero ?
I am tempted to try this. But seems too simple for others not to have tried this before me.
Let me know if I am totally missing something and if some one has tried this before.

hellboy13 said:
Hi all,
Is it possible too flash a custom recovery via goo manager in a stock root injected I-9500 ?
If yes then wouldn't we be able to flash roms without odin via the recovery and the flash counter would remain at zero ?
I am tempted to try this. But seems too simple for others not to have tried this before me.
Let me know if I am totally missing something and if some one has tried this before.
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Not possible to install custom software on and from a not rooted S4 atm. Security has tightened since the S and S2.

I am rooted.
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I am rooted. Using a stock rom with su baked in.
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hellboy13 said:
I am rooted.
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Then you allredy have the counter raised, 1 or 10 will not make a difference for warranty. That`s gone allready bro if they check that and unfortunately triangle Away doesn`t work yet for the I9500.

I have used this for root.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2317105
This doesnt effect flash counter.
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S4 Updates, Flashing...

Hello,
I have been trying to figure out a few things with the S4 and read a lot of stuff but I have a few unanswered question.
I come from using NExus phones since Nexus 1. Unlock Phone, install CWM and then use it to flash roms or rooting scripts.
Now, I have S4. I am still with their STOCK on I337M (Canadian Model) and I rooted using CF-Auto-Root and ODIN.
What I don't understand, is:
- Can I flash CWM and then just use CWM and SuperSU-vx.xx.zip to root? Why Use Odin?
- Now that I am rooted, if I new SAMSUNG firmware comes along, I am assuming it will fail, I will have to unroot and then apply firmware and then root again? How do I unroot? "Full Unroot" from the option in the app just like the Nexus phones?
- S4 has a counter from what I read, but lot's of warning about bricking phone is that only active on Samsung stock? What if I flash a google stock?
- Can I just use Rom Manager Pro as I used to with Nexus devices...
if I flash CWM, is it replacing ODIN? Is odin a recovery like Odin! If anyone can point out and explain the difference between CWM , ODIN, Nexus phones and S4 it would be great...
I know that now when I go to download mode (Is that like fastboot?) it shows binary as being custom, but I don't get a yellow triangle when I boot...
Thanks for any info regarding explaining what ODIN is...
I also noticed although I have 16GB phone, 6.38GB is system! That is huge! Is that normal?
There are some nice features that I would not like to lose, so I stuck with samsung and just use NOVA home screen...

This is actually the "ATT Galaxy S4Active" forum. S4 forum will have answers to all your S4 questions.
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Opps will get in trouble now.. now sure if I can move it or delete amd repost..
Thanks...
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ssss25 said:
Opps will get in trouble now.. now sure if I can move it or delete amd repost..
Thanks...
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Hi,
It seems that you have been around the houses.
The place you are looking for is HERE

Thanks.. I will do some more reading to try to find answers.. looks like my post just got moved.
Thanks
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Thanks. I found a lot of info at..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2301762
Only thing I still wonder is about updates that samsung releases. It will remove root? I guess I have to wait till chainfire has a rooting script then update.
Thx.
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ssss25 said:
Thanks. I found a lot of info at..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2301762
Only thing I still wonder is about updates that samsung releases. It will remove root? I guess I have to wait till chainfire has a rooting script then update.
Thx.
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I just went through the un root because I was only using it for one thing. I ended up flashing the original ROM using Odin then doing a factory reset and cache wipe. Now waiting for the update not sure I will root until S4 is not longer updated by Samsung.
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ssss25 said:
Thanks. I found a lot of info at..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2301762
Only thing I still wonder is about updates that samsung releases. It will remove root? I guess I have to wait till chainfire has a rooting script then update.
Thx.
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Hi,
Look HERE
OTA will remove root,and the latest will lock down your bootloader.

Hi
I have AMG1... I think this is the latest one but I was able to root.. Will locking boot loader prevent rooting.. Could it be another one for at only?
Thanks
Note: yes. I did notice chainfires note.. But he doesn't say what load is the latest.. There are so many Samsung s4 models devices.. Each with different models its so confusing
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I just installed CWM on latest version of Canadian I337M AMG1... Its good so far.
Xda modder.. There are differences between i337 att and Canadian i337m.. No forum specific to the Canadian folks?
Thanks...
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Installing ROMS

Hello everyone, my question is hopefully simple. I'm rooted and safestrapped. I would like to know if I take OTAs in the future that break my root will safestrap still be there? Like for example, can I run a nonrooted stock ROM with safestrap installed or will safestrap get uninstalled if I take an OTA Update?
Hopefully my questions made sense. Thanks in advance for your answers.
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QbanXpress said:
Hello everyone, my question is hopefully simple. I'm rooted and safestrapped. I would like to know if I take OTAs in the future that break my root will safestrap still be there? Like for example, can I run a nonrooted stock ROM with safestrap installed or will safestrap get uninstalled if I take an OTA Update?
Hopefully my questions made sense. Thanks in advance for your answers.
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You shouldn't be able to even accept an OTA if you're rooted, it won't let you go through with it. You should never accept an OTA regardless, and rather wait until someone packages the update up within a ROM so you can still get the benefits

I wasn't aware that being routed would not allow me to accept an OTA. Are you site this happens when the stock ROM is installed? Or, are you talking about if I have a prerooted ROM installed?
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QbanXpress said:
I wasn't aware that being routed would not allow me to accept an OTA. Are you site this happens when the stock ROM is installed? Or, are you talking about if I have a prerooted ROM installed?
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Good question, it's been a long long time on a previous device since I accepted an OTA :laugh:
Someone always packages it up as a flashable for us, just like the MJ7 Note 3 update....it's up the same week

OK then what I will be doing tonight is flashing the rooted stock ROM. This way I don't have to do worry about any OTA updates. I will be flashing in safestrap over the stock slot. No need to create a second ROM slot for the same ROM just rooted.
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recovery failed multiple times

Hello xda community.
i just purchased a galaxy s4 from a friend he he updated it to kitkat 4.4.2. i rooted itbut im having an issue installing a custom recovery. i tried the cmd method, the twrp apps on the market but although it says succesfull when i try to reboot into recovery it goes onto download mode. Someone please help me. i know samsung has a security system for the boatloader and i dont care tripping the securty system because im not with at&t nor on contract.
please help me i want to flash cm11 so bad.

androidfine16 said:
Hello xda community.
i just purchased a galaxy s4 from a friend he he updated it to kitkat 4.4.2. i rooted itbut im having an issue installing a custom recovery. i tried the cmd method, the twrp apps on the market but although it says succesfull when i try to reboot into recovery it goes onto download mode. Someone please help me. i know samsung has a security system for the boatloader and i dont care tripping the securty system because im not with at&t nor on contract.
please help me i want to flash cm11 so bad.
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Try this one. It's what I use.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2427125

Apoplectic1 said:
Try this one. It's what I use.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2427125
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I've seen that but I heard/read if you mess up that's it for your phone. Plus toy never truly have a Susie stable recovery. Seems like a lot of risk
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androidfine16 said:
I've seen that but I heard/read if you mess up that's it for your phone. Plus toy never truly have a Susie stable recovery. Seems like a lot of risk
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I can't say I have ever heard of anyone messing up the installation process before. It's load the apk to your SD card, install it to your phone and then tapping the install button once you open it. That's it.
As long as your root method installs busybox and your SU app disables Knox, you should be fine.

androidfine16 said:
Hello xda community.
i just purchased a galaxy s4 from a friend he he updated it to kitkat 4.4.2. i rooted itbut im having an issue installing a custom recovery. i tried the cmd method, the twrp apps on the market but although it says succesfull when i try to reboot into recovery it goes onto download mode. Someone please help me. i know samsung has a security system for the boatloader and i dont care tripping the securty system because im not with at&t nor on contract.
please help me i want to flash cm11 so bad.
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Trying to load a custom recovery on a locked bootloader could mess up your phone. Safestrap was made for our phones. Read up a bit you'll see we can't do normal custom recoveries and we can't flash normal roms cause we're locked. Only thing we can do is root and safe strap. I'll suggest odin nb1 update to nc1 root. The reason I say odin to nb1 is because right now you don't have a recovery at all due to you trying to install cwm or twrp.
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Apoplectic1 said:
I can't say I have ever heard of anyone messing up the installation process before. It's load the apk to your SD card, install it to your phone and then tapping the install button once you open it. That's it.
As long as your root method installs busybox and your SU app disables Knox, you should be fine.
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So I'll be able to install cm 11. Without any complications?
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I don't have a current recovery. Your right about that . How do I fix it
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androidfine16 said:
So I'll be able to install cm 11. Without any complications?
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Do you have an AT&T S4? If so then no. It will not load if you try. Until someone figures how to crack the locked bootloader, we are stuck with ROMs that use stock Samsung (you'll also hear them referred to as TouchWiz or TW) kernels. I believe CM uses their own custom one.
I am able to use the Google Edition one because a user modified it to work on aTouchWiz kernel, and even then things like USB file transfer does not work.
I do not believe anyone has done the same for CM.

androidfine16 said:
I don't have a current recovery. Your right about that . How do I fix it
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You need to odin nb1 (flash back to stock) this will put your recovery back.
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Apoplectic1 said:
Do you have an AT&T S4? If so then no. It will not load if you try. Until someone figures how to crack the locked bootloader, we are stuck with ROMs that use stock Samsung (you'll also hear them referred to as TouchWiz or TW) kernels. I believe CM uses their own custom one.
I am able to use the Google Edition one because a user modified it to work on aTouchWiz kernel, and even then things like USB file transfer does not work.
I do not believe anyone has done the same for CM.
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Yes I have the at& t s4. And that sucks I was really looking forward to flashing cm 11s. I don't care for the knox being ticked off being that I'm on no contract. Do you think I can use Odin or something to revert back to 4.2 safely without bricking the device. I hate touch wiz. And the battery drains quickly plus the phone gets hot when used for a while
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drock212 said:
You need to odin nb1 (flash back to stock) this will put your recovery back.
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Won't this look the bootloader cause I read downgrades are practically unsafe on this device. If not than I'd much rather go back to 4.2 so I can load a custom recovery being that u don't mind tripping knox. So long that it doesn't Brick or render the phone use less
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androidfine16 said:
Won't this lock the bootloader cause I read downgrades are practically unsafe on this device. If not than I'd much rather go back to 4.2 so I can load a custom recovery being that u don't mind tripping knox. So long that it doesn't Brick or render the phone use less
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androidfine16 said:
Won't this look the bootloader cause I read downgrades are practically unsafe on this device. If not than I'd much rather go back to 4.2 so I can load a custom recovery being that u don't mind tripping knox. So long that it doesn't Brick or render the phone use less
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Odining back to NB1 will not trip Knox. Also, I believe downgrading to 4.2 will not touch your bootloader, if it were that easy we'd all be rocking CM.
You could run this ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2767026
Its technically not a TW ROM, but it has its quirks. It was never intended to work on locked bootloader phones, but it has been retrofitted on to them.
Wrote this if you would like a guide on how I got 4.4.4 version up and running, it's kind of tricky.

androidfine16 said:
Won't this look the bootloader cause I read downgrades are practically unsafe on this device. If not than I'd much rather go back to 4.2 so I can load a custom recovery being that u don't mind tripping knox. So long that it doesn't Brick or render the phone use less
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Nb1 and nc1 are the same. Nb1 is just a small update over nb1, there isn't even a tar file for nc1 because it's such a small update. You won't be able to odin back to anything prior to nb1 unfortunately without bricking. Now I do understand the hatred of touchwiz but once you're rooted you're able to delete a lot of the garbage bloatware put on by Samsung and AT&T. This makes the phone so much better along with super long battery life. I've been able to get 4.5 hours of on screen time and about 16 - 17 hours of off the plug time like this.
When deleting bloat you can easily Google and find lists of what people have deleted off their phones using titanium backup (amazing app, let's your freeze or delete what you don't want). Also one thing I found out which is dumb. Deleting Samsung hub breaks auto rotation (what one has to do with the other I'll never know) but you can download the file needed to fix that here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=51260826
I've had my touchwized sgs4 for about 3 weeks now and can say I'm not as upset with it as I thought I would be. Let me know if you have any questions about certain things. I've found a lot of workarounds and little edits here and there to get my phone a lot closer to how I want it.
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Are there people working in unlocking our bootloader because this thing is really annoying .
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Ps: No one answered my question. If I don't care for tripping the bootloader being that I'm on no contract. Is their a way to trip the flash counter and get on a recovery? I don't care for Samsung security knox or their bootloader security.
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androidfine16 said:
Ps: No one answered my question. If I don't care for tripping the bootloader being that I'm on no contract. Is their a way to trip the flash counter and get on a recovery? I don't care for Samsung security knox or their bootloader security.
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Nope. Bootloader and knox are completely different. Knox will just give annoying messages once tripped. Bootloader without unlock we're pretty much dead in the water. There has been some talk about ways to possibly unlock the bootloader so it's definitely being worked on. I've also read that the black hat even (hackers convention) might have something promising. Also anything that is done on the s5 could very well apply to the s4. It's all just a matter of time
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Nope. Bootloader and knox are completely different. Knox will just give annoying messages once tripped. Bootloader without unlock we're pretty much dead in the water. There has been some talk about ways to possibly unlock the bootloader so it's definitely being worked on. I've also read that the black hat even (hackers convention) might have something promising. Also anything that is done on the s5 could very well apply to the s4. It's all just a matter of time
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Sounds great that the s5 and s4 integrate . Also there's a bunch of stuff online which shows how to disable certain aspects of the bootloader using linux (Ubuntu) . Do you think that'll work. It's a huge risk.
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androidfine16 said:
Sounds great that the s5 and s4 integrate . Also there's a bunch of stuff online which shows how to disable certain aspects of the bootloader using linux (Ubuntu) . Do you think that'll work. It's a huge risk.
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If it hasn't been done to give us anything I wouldn't do it. Only thing we have right now is safestrap. Which is similar to a dual boot
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drock212 said:
If it hasn't been done to give us anything I wouldn't do it. Only thing we have right now is safestrap. Which is similar to a dual boot
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Similar to dual boot but can't load any rom you want on it
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