Hello xda community.
i just purchased a galaxy s4 from a friend he he updated it to kitkat 4.4.2. i rooted itbut im having an issue installing a custom recovery. i tried the cmd method, the twrp apps on the market but although it says succesfull when i try to reboot into recovery it goes onto download mode. Someone please help me. i know samsung has a security system for the boatloader and i dont care tripping the securty system because im not with at&t nor on contract.
please help me i want to flash cm11 so bad.
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Hello xda community.
i just purchased a galaxy s4 from a friend he he updated it to kitkat 4.4.2. i rooted itbut im having an issue installing a custom recovery. i tried the cmd method, the twrp apps on the market but although it says succesfull when i try to reboot into recovery it goes onto download mode. Someone please help me. i know samsung has a security system for the boatloader and i dont care tripping the securty system because im not with at&t nor on contract.
please help me i want to flash cm11 so bad.
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Try this one. It's what I use.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2427125
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Try this one. It's what I use.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2427125
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I've seen that but I heard/read if you mess up that's it for your phone. Plus toy never truly have a Susie stable recovery. Seems like a lot of risk
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androidfine16 said:
I've seen that but I heard/read if you mess up that's it for your phone. Plus toy never truly have a Susie stable recovery. Seems like a lot of risk
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I can't say I have ever heard of anyone messing up the installation process before. It's load the apk to your SD card, install it to your phone and then tapping the install button once you open it. That's it.
As long as your root method installs busybox and your SU app disables Knox, you should be fine.
androidfine16 said:
Hello xda community.
i just purchased a galaxy s4 from a friend he he updated it to kitkat 4.4.2. i rooted itbut im having an issue installing a custom recovery. i tried the cmd method, the twrp apps on the market but although it says succesfull when i try to reboot into recovery it goes onto download mode. Someone please help me. i know samsung has a security system for the boatloader and i dont care tripping the securty system because im not with at&t nor on contract.
please help me i want to flash cm11 so bad.
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Trying to load a custom recovery on a locked bootloader could mess up your phone. Safestrap was made for our phones. Read up a bit you'll see we can't do normal custom recoveries and we can't flash normal roms cause we're locked. Only thing we can do is root and safe strap. I'll suggest odin nb1 update to nc1 root. The reason I say odin to nb1 is because right now you don't have a recovery at all due to you trying to install cwm or twrp.
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I can't say I have ever heard of anyone messing up the installation process before. It's load the apk to your SD card, install it to your phone and then tapping the install button once you open it. That's it.
As long as your root method installs busybox and your SU app disables Knox, you should be fine.
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So I'll be able to install cm 11. Without any complications?
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I don't have a current recovery. Your right about that . How do I fix it
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androidfine16 said:
So I'll be able to install cm 11. Without any complications?
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Do you have an AT&T S4? If so then no. It will not load if you try. Until someone figures how to crack the locked bootloader, we are stuck with ROMs that use stock Samsung (you'll also hear them referred to as TouchWiz or TW) kernels. I believe CM uses their own custom one.
I am able to use the Google Edition one because a user modified it to work on aTouchWiz kernel, and even then things like USB file transfer does not work.
I do not believe anyone has done the same for CM.
androidfine16 said:
I don't have a current recovery. Your right about that . How do I fix it
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You need to odin nb1 (flash back to stock) this will put your recovery back.
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Do you have an AT&T S4? If so then no. It will not load if you try. Until someone figures how to crack the locked bootloader, we are stuck with ROMs that use stock Samsung (you'll also hear them referred to as TouchWiz or TW) kernels. I believe CM uses their own custom one.
I am able to use the Google Edition one because a user modified it to work on aTouchWiz kernel, and even then things like USB file transfer does not work.
I do not believe anyone has done the same for CM.
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Yes I have the at& t s4. And that sucks I was really looking forward to flashing cm 11s. I don't care for the knox being ticked off being that I'm on no contract. Do you think I can use Odin or something to revert back to 4.2 safely without bricking the device. I hate touch wiz. And the battery drains quickly plus the phone gets hot when used for a while
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You need to odin nb1 (flash back to stock) this will put your recovery back.
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Won't this look the bootloader cause I read downgrades are practically unsafe on this device. If not than I'd much rather go back to 4.2 so I can load a custom recovery being that u don't mind tripping knox. So long that it doesn't Brick or render the phone use less
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Won't this lock the bootloader cause I read downgrades are practically unsafe on this device. If not than I'd much rather go back to 4.2 so I can load a custom recovery being that u don't mind tripping knox. So long that it doesn't Brick or render the phone use less
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Won't this look the bootloader cause I read downgrades are practically unsafe on this device. If not than I'd much rather go back to 4.2 so I can load a custom recovery being that u don't mind tripping knox. So long that it doesn't Brick or render the phone use less
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Odining back to NB1 will not trip Knox. Also, I believe downgrading to 4.2 will not touch your bootloader, if it were that easy we'd all be rocking CM.
You could run this ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2767026
Its technically not a TW ROM, but it has its quirks. It was never intended to work on locked bootloader phones, but it has been retrofitted on to them.
Wrote this if you would like a guide on how I got 4.4.4 version up and running, it's kind of tricky.
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Won't this look the bootloader cause I read downgrades are practically unsafe on this device. If not than I'd much rather go back to 4.2 so I can load a custom recovery being that u don't mind tripping knox. So long that it doesn't Brick or render the phone use less
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Nb1 and nc1 are the same. Nb1 is just a small update over nb1, there isn't even a tar file for nc1 because it's such a small update. You won't be able to odin back to anything prior to nb1 unfortunately without bricking. Now I do understand the hatred of touchwiz but once you're rooted you're able to delete a lot of the garbage bloatware put on by Samsung and AT&T. This makes the phone so much better along with super long battery life. I've been able to get 4.5 hours of on screen time and about 16 - 17 hours of off the plug time like this.
When deleting bloat you can easily Google and find lists of what people have deleted off their phones using titanium backup (amazing app, let's your freeze or delete what you don't want). Also one thing I found out which is dumb. Deleting Samsung hub breaks auto rotation (what one has to do with the other I'll never know) but you can download the file needed to fix that here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=51260826
I've had my touchwized sgs4 for about 3 weeks now and can say I'm not as upset with it as I thought I would be. Let me know if you have any questions about certain things. I've found a lot of workarounds and little edits here and there to get my phone a lot closer to how I want it.
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Are there people working in unlocking our bootloader because this thing is really annoying .
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Ps: No one answered my question. If I don't care for tripping the bootloader being that I'm on no contract. Is their a way to trip the flash counter and get on a recovery? I don't care for Samsung security knox or their bootloader security.
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androidfine16 said:
Ps: No one answered my question. If I don't care for tripping the bootloader being that I'm on no contract. Is their a way to trip the flash counter and get on a recovery? I don't care for Samsung security knox or their bootloader security.
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Nope. Bootloader and knox are completely different. Knox will just give annoying messages once tripped. Bootloader without unlock we're pretty much dead in the water. There has been some talk about ways to possibly unlock the bootloader so it's definitely being worked on. I've also read that the black hat even (hackers convention) might have something promising. Also anything that is done on the s5 could very well apply to the s4. It's all just a matter of time
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Nope. Bootloader and knox are completely different. Knox will just give annoying messages once tripped. Bootloader without unlock we're pretty much dead in the water. There has been some talk about ways to possibly unlock the bootloader so it's definitely being worked on. I've also read that the black hat even (hackers convention) might have something promising. Also anything that is done on the s5 could very well apply to the s4. It's all just a matter of time
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Sounds great that the s5 and s4 integrate . Also there's a bunch of stuff online which shows how to disable certain aspects of the bootloader using linux (Ubuntu) . Do you think that'll work. It's a huge risk.
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androidfine16 said:
Sounds great that the s5 and s4 integrate . Also there's a bunch of stuff online which shows how to disable certain aspects of the bootloader using linux (Ubuntu) . Do you think that'll work. It's a huge risk.
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If it hasn't been done to give us anything I wouldn't do it. Only thing we have right now is safestrap. Which is similar to a dual boot
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If it hasn't been done to give us anything I wouldn't do it. Only thing we have right now is safestrap. Which is similar to a dual boot
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Similar to dual boot but can't load any rom you want on it
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First off sorry if I have missed something but I have been doing some reading but am slightly confused.
I am looking at a Verizon Note 3 on ebay to keep unlimited data since I just sold my Note 2 which was rooted and running a custom rom which is kinda a must for me. Where I am confused is I see tutorials on how to root the note 3 but I also see a petition to have verizon unlock the bootloader. When I hear locked bootloader I think no rooting and custom roms. So did verizon just recently lock the note 3 down like they did with the note 2 4.3 update? Sorry if this is a stupid question.
Basically I just want to be able to root my Note 3 but am not worried about voiding any warranties with verizon since I'm buying it on ebay or something. Feel free to post links to this answer since I'm not opposed to reading just kinda overwhelmed right now.
Thanks for answering my stupid question and have a great weekend!!!
Read this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2543386
Everything you need to know
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ContractorDude said:
Read this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2543386
Everything you need to know
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Ok so it looks like I should be able to root it no problem. Whats big deal with the locked bootloader then?
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Only TW custom roms, no AOSP or custom kernels
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ContractorDude said:
Only TW custom roms, no AOSP or custom kernels
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Ahhhh ok thank you for the quick response!!!
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The Custom Roms are awesome though. Still loving this phone
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ContractorDude said:
The Custom Roms are awesome though. Still loving this phone
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Oh I don't doubt it for a second!! That's why I was confused saw plenty of custom ROMs but didn't really pay attention to tw or not. Not really an issue since I've been having crazy battery draining issues on everything I put 4.4.2 on. Haven't done my research but I'm sure it won't be long till 4.4 tw hits the note 3 anyways.
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Ya, Sprints already getting it.
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What is "locked" on the retail device is the recovery and boot partitions. They are crypto-signed and verified early in the boot sequence. Until the phone is hacked, it means it is impossible to boot a non-Samsung kernel or non-Samsung recovery. Even if you intentionally blow the Warranty flag on the phone, this behavior will not change.
So, while you can root, whatever "ROM" you want to try and use must play nice with a STOCK kernel (& ramdisk). So, no CM for example.
Also - because of "version upgrade locking", if you upgrade a stock kernel (let's say MJ7 -> MJE), you might not be able to use Nandroid restores of previous ROMs you formerly used any longer... depending on how tightly the ROM depends on kernel & ramdisk behaviors.
And one more thing - the Safestrap "psuedo-recovery" actually boots the beginning of a stock ROM (or whatever you have in the "stock slot"). One consequence of this is that you no longer have a separately bootable recovery to fix up mistakes or restore backups from. If you wedge the primary OS somehow, the consequence of that will be a loss of all data on the phone which is not backed up, and a trip to Odin to restore a pure stock firmware ... and starting all over from square 1.
(If you buy a Note 3, you might want to consider a BIG removable SD card - then you will have room for media/backups/etc that is not vulnerable to an Odin flash)
So basically, you have a limited form of rooting available.
More info here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=49758703&postcount=5
I installed this new room now I lost my Root. Is there no way to get it BACK? I NEED titanium bad
Not yet
Does mobile Odin work for 4.4.2? If so try flashing with that and using the inject su option
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Does mobile Odin work for 4.4.2? If so try flashing with that and using the inject su option
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I can't see a signature in the mobile app, so forgive me if it is stated. This may not work if he is in US. The i337 is not listed as a compatible model, most likely because of the locked bootloader.
That app sounds great though. I will have to remember it for other unlocked Samsung phones.
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Odin probably wouldn't work because we can't get custom recoveries onto our devices.
Any other root methods available for 4.4.2?
You mean it's been a whole WEEK and we don't root for this yet???
What are we paying all these devs for?
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Wasn't sure if any of you knew about this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2783157
Basically you can now root the S5 and NOT trip knox.
Really it seems to be most phones that are 4.2.2 work.
This doesn't get you a boot loader etc. but gives root at least for those wanting to not risk warranty and get the bloat off.
bryanu said:
Wasn't sure if any of you knew about this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2783157
Basically you can now root the S5 and NOT trip knox.
Really it seems to be most phones that are 4.2.2 work.
This doesn't get you a boot loader etc. but gives root at least for those wanting to not risk warranty and get the bloat off.
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Works great. No issues for me.
Eassiest root ever!
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Already a post on here with this information http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2785065 . Mods should shut this one down to lessen confusion.
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Already a post on here with this information http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2785065 . Mods should shut this one down to lessen confusion.
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Woops, didn't catch that when I looked this AM, it wasn't in this section of the forum though.
Sorry about that :/
That one is closed too though FWIW and when it was closed it was just moved here.
After the simplest root ever, how does one go about a custom recovery? Do we still have to odin that or is it flashable?
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BubZX said:
After the simplest root ever, how does one go about a custom recovery? Do we still have to odin that or is it flashable?
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If you do custom recovery you will trip knox making this method for you to root having been useless and you should have used one of the other options that does it all at once hah.
Can you use this root method and get the hotspot mod working without a custom recovery?
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I've been wondering that exact same thing! And also if we can root NE5 with it!
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In regards to flashing hotspot mods etc. Without a custom recovery.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2583199
I found this forum while looking for an answer, does anyone have any input if this method will work for the s5??
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fgcchevy said:
Can you use this root method and get the hotspot mod working without a custom recovery?
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This:
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You can but you need to be aware that you can get stuck in a boot loop. But if you are willing to take the risk.
Download the Odex version that matches your system, this is critical. Extract the services.jar and services.odex files. Use a root explorer to copy them to /system/framework. Change permissions to rw-r-r. Reboot and it will either work or not.
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Awesome. I just got my S5 today and I knew that 4.4.2 Ota wasn't rootable yet. Thank to everyone who pits effort into making our devices OURS and not our carriers. ??
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I have the att note 3 that was 4.4.2 and I am ready to sell it but my phone was rooted and I uninstalled some of the stock programs that came with it. I tried to flash what I thought was a stock rom through Odin but it failed and now I just see firmware encountered an issue please select recovery mode in kies. When I go to kies it just tells me that I cannot recover the device. If anyone can help me that would be awesome and thanks in advance.
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Root it and flash it again with odin
The phone doesn't even boy anymore and I'm pretty sure that you don't need to be rooted in order to flash with Odin. Also I don't want to just try and root and hope it works because as of now Knox is not tripped
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The phone doesn't even boy anymore and I'm pretty sure that you don't need to be rooted in order to flash with Odin. Also I don't want to just try and root and hope it works because as of now Knox is not tripped
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You root one time and your Knox is modified even if you flash stock after...
Start again in dl mode and flash again but check md5 before
The method I used did not trip Knox see the picture. And I have used Odin before a lot of times before I have tried to reflash many times if you Google it you will see that a lot of people are having this issue but nothing has worked for me so far figured I'd ask here. It is also very hard to even find the att stock rom
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Hey XDA community. I recently got a Galaxy Note 3 Verizon and have been having some issues. Randomly my phone will freeze then reboot. It's typically when playing games that are graphic intensive. I cleared the cache, done 2 factory reset, and uninstalled and reinstalled all apps giving me issues. It seems to be doing better now but it recently froze while browsing chrome. I was wondering if this was a known issue and how other people fixed it. I read somewhere that I should root and rom my phone since the factory firmware caused a problem with someone else. So any tips or thoughts would greatly appreciated.
Thank you!
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Hey XDA community. I recently got a Galaxy Note 3 Verizon and have been having some issues. Randomly my phone will freeze then reboot. It's typically when playing games that are graphic intensive. I cleared the cache, done 2 factory reset, and uninstalled and reinstalled all apps giving me issues. It seems to be doing better now but it recently froze while browsing chrome. I was wondering if this was a known issue and how other people fixed it. I read somewhere that I should root and rom my phone since the factory firmware caused a problem with someone else. So any tips or thoughts would greatly appreciated.
Thank you!
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I don't play alot of games. Just Subway Surfers and Temple Run so I won't be of much help there but if you're considering rooting and maybe flashing roms check this post out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=55003142
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Ok so next question then. I am planning on maybe sending it to samsung for the factory warranty. I would like to try roming it first to see if that fixes it, but not if they are going to be able to tell and void the warranty. So is the reversal process possible on this phone so that they will never know it was rooted? Or is there a counter that they will be able to see?
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Ok so next question then. I am planning on maybe sending it to samsung for the factory warranty. I would like to try roming it first to see if that fixes it, but not if they are going to be able to tell and void the warranty. So is the reversal process possible on this phone so that they will never know it was rooted? Or is there a counter that they will be able to see?
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If the previous owner rooted it properly he/she shouldn't have tripped knox. If you'd like to check put your phone in download mode and check. Power off phone then restart holding power, vol down and home. If you'd like to to restore and send it in then you'd use Odin to restore with the files here....http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=47400062&postcount=1 as long as you're on MJE use the MJE factory tar file. Make sure you use retail if you're on a retail phone or you'll possibly brick it. If you decide to upgrade use the NC2 method and if it continues to act up you can go to stock with the MJE version just to keep it simple.
Ok so I checked and it says Knox 0x0. I am assuming that means it hasn't been tripped. Now is there a root method that will avoid tripping Knox?
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Ok so I checked and it says Knox 0x0. I am assuming that means it hasn't been tripped. Now is there a root method that will avoid tripping Knox?
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Good, if you're on NC4 use towel root.
See this thread by @droidguy22 : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=53428156
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Ok awesome. And using towel root properly won't trip Knox correct the? Also with these phones is it required to put the roms and kernels on an SD card or is it OK using the internal storage?
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firemandan said:
Ok awesome. And using towel root properly won't trip Knox correct the? Also with these phones is it required to put the roms and kernels on an SD card or is it OK using the internal storage?
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Put your rom zips on your external sd. No kernels yet but hopefully down the line. I rooted before towel root but everyone says it doesn't trip Knox.
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Copy that thanks. I'm coming from the razr maxx HD and all I used was the internal memory on that so was checking to see if it was possible with this phone too
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Mine was doing this brand new unrooted. Exchanged it for a new one and the problem went away. There are lemons out there. Take it back to the Verizon store before it's too late.
Yeah I got it from someone else and I'm going to have to do the factory warranty I believe. I appreciate the info.
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