Hello,
I have been trying to figure out a few things with the S4 and read a lot of stuff but I have a few unanswered question.
I come from using NExus phones since Nexus 1. Unlock Phone, install CWM and then use it to flash roms or rooting scripts.
Now, I have S4. I am still with their STOCK on I337M (Canadian Model) and I rooted using CF-Auto-Root and ODIN.
What I don't understand, is:
- Can I flash CWM and then just use CWM and SuperSU-vx.xx.zip to root? Why Use Odin?
- Now that I am rooted, if I new SAMSUNG firmware comes along, I am assuming it will fail, I will have to unroot and then apply firmware and then root again? How do I unroot? "Full Unroot" from the option in the app just like the Nexus phones?
- S4 has a counter from what I read, but lot's of warning about bricking phone is that only active on Samsung stock? What if I flash a google stock?
- Can I just use Rom Manager Pro as I used to with Nexus devices...
if I flash CWM, is it replacing ODIN? Is odin a recovery like Odin! If anyone can point out and explain the difference between CWM , ODIN, Nexus phones and S4 it would be great...
I know that now when I go to download mode (Is that like fastboot?) it shows binary as being custom, but I don't get a yellow triangle when I boot...
Thanks for any info regarding explaining what ODIN is...
I also noticed although I have 16GB phone, 6.38GB is system! That is huge! Is that normal?
There are some nice features that I would not like to lose, so I stuck with samsung and just use NOVA home screen...
This is actually the "ATT Galaxy S4Active" forum. S4 forum will have answers to all your S4 questions.
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Opps will get in trouble now.. now sure if I can move it or delete amd repost..
Thanks...
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ssss25 said:
Opps will get in trouble now.. now sure if I can move it or delete amd repost..
Thanks...
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Hi,
It seems that you have been around the houses.
The place you are looking for is HERE
Thanks.. I will do some more reading to try to find answers.. looks like my post just got moved.
Thanks
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Thanks. I found a lot of info at..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2301762
Only thing I still wonder is about updates that samsung releases. It will remove root? I guess I have to wait till chainfire has a rooting script then update.
Thx.
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ssss25 said:
Thanks. I found a lot of info at..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2301762
Only thing I still wonder is about updates that samsung releases. It will remove root? I guess I have to wait till chainfire has a rooting script then update.
Thx.
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I just went through the un root because I was only using it for one thing. I ended up flashing the original ROM using Odin then doing a factory reset and cache wipe. Now waiting for the update not sure I will root until S4 is not longer updated by Samsung.
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ssss25 said:
Thanks. I found a lot of info at..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2301762
Only thing I still wonder is about updates that samsung releases. It will remove root? I guess I have to wait till chainfire has a rooting script then update.
Thx.
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Hi,
Look HERE
OTA will remove root,and the latest will lock down your bootloader.
Hi
I have AMG1... I think this is the latest one but I was able to root.. Will locking boot loader prevent rooting.. Could it be another one for at only?
Thanks
Note: yes. I did notice chainfires note.. But he doesn't say what load is the latest.. There are so many Samsung s4 models devices.. Each with different models its so confusing
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I just installed CWM on latest version of Canadian I337M AMG1... Its good so far.
Xda modder.. There are differences between i337 att and Canadian i337m.. No forum specific to the Canadian folks?
Thanks...
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I recently got a Galaxy S4 from att and I rooted it to be able to remove the bloatware. I tried to install a program called icon theme for rooted phones to customize my phone but when it rebooted it stays stuck on the Att boot up screen. Please give me suggestions on what to do. I am very new to android phones and rooting. Thanks in advance.
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I recently got a Galaxy S4 from att and I rooted it to be able to remove the bloatware. I tried to install a program called icon theme for rooted phones to customize my phone but when it rebooted it stays stuck on the Att boot up screen. Please give me suggestions on what to do. I am very new to android phones and rooting. Thanks in advance.
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First this is wrong forum to asks question. Second look for soft brick fix in general forum for att galaxy 4
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pwr24 said:
I recently got a Galaxy S4 from att and I rooted it to be able to remove the bloatware. I tried to install a program called icon theme for rooted phones to customize my phone but when it rebooted it stays stuck on the Att boot up screen. Please give me suggestions on what to do. I am very new to android phones and rooting. Thanks in advance.
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Yep wrong section....and your first mistake was not doing research
Before you do anything...READ READ AND READ AGAIN...especially with a new device...
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Nandroid is your buddy. Backup every time you root.
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Hah ya i did the exact same app last night with the xposed framework and soft bricked. Just use the odin restore to stock in the dev forum, works like a charm! (thx adamoutler!)
This post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2261573
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Nandroid is your buddy. Backup every time you root.
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My man..he has the at&t model..how is he suppose to do a nandroid? We don't have custom recovery..bootloader is still locked
saaaame exact thing happened to me dont worry youll be fine lol
i used this one (kies) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2261232
This is why I havent really done anything after root to my s4 just in case ill wait
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Ya better off to wait if you have an AT&T variant
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just plug in your device to your computer and follow these steps:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=41274147&postcount=5
this will completely disable Xposed, so you'll have to redo any other mods you had from it
sk8trix said:
This is why I havent really done anything after root to my s4 just in case ill wait
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Not really a big deal... Returning to stock only takes a few mins.
Questions and help go in Q&A and help section
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Hey guys i just got my s4 yesterday and am wondering what the difference between the 2 firmwares is. Is one better then the other? My phone downloaded an update last nite but I havent installed it yet. Was going to root this afternoon.
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MF3 locks the boot loader, so if you want to flash ROMS, don't update. It also has some software tweaks and adds Knox and the ability to easily store apps on SD card. There is a root, but not a boot loader unlock, yet.
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Ahh, I do want to flash roms. This update wont install itself will it?
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Ahh, I do want to flash roms. This update wont install itself will it?
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Do yourself a favor and search and read through the first page or so of the general and Q&A sub forums. The information you need is there, especially the "pinned" threads in the general section. Read the "software update" thread and the "new root method for MF3" thread also. Good luck.
Will do scott thanks! Im coming from an iphone and forgot how big the android world is! Had an inspire 4g prior to my 4s
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Ahh, I do want to flash roms. This update wont install itself will it?
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Some say it has auto installed
It will auto install. You should root and put a custom Rom on asap. Check your firmware first though, if it's already installed you can brick your phone trying to root the way you would with mdl. If it's mf3 you've got the update and you'll have to use a different method.
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I had Knox on MDL, not sure what your talking about.
Mf3 locks the boot loader but fixes bugs and make the camera take sharper pictures. Plus better cell signal.
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I got lucky. It tried to auto instal so i yanked the battery and quickly rooted and threw a custom rom on it.
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Saw a good deal for a new Galaxy S4 for $79 + $70 trade in on my old HTC One. So only $10 for the New S4: )
But reading around people saying the New S4 firmware has a hard lock on it and not easy to root and only one or two roms working on it?
I was gonna root it and put the Google Play Edition ROM on it but some say that's not possible on new S4 from ATT carriers now?
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You should do some searching but the s4 with mf3 can be rooted. I know they're not going to have the the new 4.3 update on it yet. But I'd say get the s4 and use the kingo root method.
Use this guide for rooting
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2473747
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2428254
Use this guide for your ROMs
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Root doesn't mean unlocked. You can be rooted and still have a locked bootloader.did you read before posting? I'm not trying to come off rude.
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Zorachus said:
Saw a good deal for a new Galaxy S4 for $79 + $70 trade in on my old HTC One. So only $10 for the New S4: )
But reading around people saying the New S4 firmware has a hard lock on it and not easy to root and only one or two roms working on it?
I was gonna root it and put the Google Play Edition ROM on it but some say that's not possible on new S4 from ATT carriers now?
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You will be able to root the AT&T Galaxy S4 easily, almost everyone here in this AT&T S4 forum
already has rooted their phones and have flashed custom roms without any issues.
Good luck!
MF3 can be rooted but you can't flash a custom recovery (TWRP, CWM) If you're asking if you can root the device and flash a custom rom, it all depends on your AT&T store. Try and go to your AT&T store and before they unbox the S4 and start activating everything, make sure you tell them you want a phone with the firmware MDL on it. If they don't have any with the firmware MDL, tough luck. If you get an S4 with MF3, you can only root.
Not only root.
Root it and install Safestrap to install most TW based ROMs that run 4.2.2
Most important is to lube your eyes and
READ/SEARCH all info to do with your build or you will be a victim of the I bricked my phone cause I can't read.you can Google anything to do with your phone and ad "xda" to the search and you will find what you are looking for.
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Last two phones I had, the Nexus 4, and Note 2 on ATT, were easy as pie to root and install recovery, and that was it, you were done forever, just flash a ROM + Kernel, reboot and bam you had a fresh new ROM to enjoy, and was so easy and fast to do get it installed, was a no brainer. What happened in the past year with phones being so locked down so hard, where you can't just do that anymore ?
Wish all Android phones were as simple as a Nexus to flash rom's on. But I don't want the Nexus 5 phone with tiny battery, I like bigger batteries or removable, and more storage options, etc...
Yes it can be rooted using the external sd card method. Its actually easy to do.
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Yes it can be rooted using the external sd card method. Its actually easy to do.
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The is an even easier method called kingo root that was previously stated.
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The is an even easier method called kingo root that was previously stated.
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Thank you. So I can root it no problem, but then it's a matter of very select ROM's available due to my firmware ? And none of them can be 4.3 based ? Which the S4 doesn't even officially have yet, but not even the Google Play Edition ROM that is 4.3 can be installed on this firmware, only the older 4.2.2 version ?
Ok, so I root with using 'Kingo' method
Then install the safestrap .apk, and install that
And then install only a ROM on the provided list, which will all be 4.2.2 based only ? Still rather have any of those, than just stock TW out of the box unrooted
All correct
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Thank you. So I can root it no problem, but then it's a matter of very select ROM's available due to my firmware ? And none of them can be 4.3 based ? Which the S4 doesn't even officially have yet, but not even the Google Play Edition ROM that is 4.3 can be installed on this firmware, only the older 4.2.2 version ?
Ok, so I root with using 'Kingo' method
Then install the safestrap .apk, and install that
And then install only a ROM on the provided list, which will all be 4.2.2 based only ? Still rather have any of those, than just stock TW out of the box unrooted
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You can put Google play edition ROMs on but not the 4.3 as stated in the guide. The only real problem for me is that it seems to use more battery than tw roms. And you don't have all the features as your tw based ROMs on the gpe ROMs. Some tw ROMs are just as fast if not faster. Fast speeds and great battery life can't go wrong with that.
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You guys recommend a new S4, or the LG G2 ?
Thing is the G2 development is very sparse, and cases and accessories few and little for the G2. And what about resale down the road in a year or 18 months ? Which will fetch better trade in money the S4 or G2 ?
Thanks.
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Hi I read almost all post but I don't find my answer so I need help from you guys, I cant update to 4.3 from ota my phone is stock but is unlocked so I still don't receive any ota or kies update, my band is I337UCUAMDL, and in all post I see only MF3 to MK2, but what can I do to update to 4.3? thanks
I'll trade you my MF3 S4 rooted with SafeStrap installed for that phone. I'll even throw in a 32gb micro SD.
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thanks
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I'll trade you my MF3 S4 rooted with SafeStrap installed for that phone. I'll even throw in a 32gb micro SD.
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thanks but i will like to update my phone, do you think i can on a stock firmare?
This thread has the MF3 file you can use to upgrade manually.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2502003
I honestly have not read it so I don't know if there are instructions. I got the link for that thread from this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2526964
That one just provided the link to the other but was helpful to me in upgrading from MF3. Hopefully after you manually upgrade to MF3 your phone will auto upgrade to MK2.
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Yes but you shouldn't update that phone. Seriously. If you want to enjoy that device, you'll listen to me. If you update that device to MF3 or later, you'll be really upset once you realize that you lost the gifts that MDL brings. Read up before you mess up a golden opportunity.
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HORiZUN said:
Yes but you shouldn't update that phone. Seriously. If you want to enjoy that device, you'll listen to me. If you update that device to MF3 or later, you'll be really upset once you realize that you lost the gifts that MDL brings. Read up before you mess up a golden opportunity.
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thanks for everithing but what so especial on MDL?, and i need the update because my wife got me the galaxy gear and is more then 3 weeks and i can't used?
MDL can run the loki exploit. Read up on it if you're interested.
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but the gear
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MDL can run the loki exploit. Read up on it if you're interested.
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but the loki exploit can piar with the gear?
You can flash any ROM to the device with loki, 4.3 and 4.4 ROMS included.
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Hi I read almost all post but I don't find my answer so I need help from you guys, I cant update to 4.3 from ota my phone is stock but is unlocked so I still don't receive any ota or kies update, my band is I337UCUAMDL, and in all post I see only MF3 to MK2, but what can I do to update to 4.3? thanks
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thanks for everithing but what so especial on MDL?, and i need the update because my wife got me the galaxy gear and is more then 3 weeks and i can't used?
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Check this out ....ONE CLICK TOOL....so easy and nothing easier than this on MF3 or MK2 firmware......Trust me.....what u got to lose? but u losing full control of your phone when u update to MF3 or MK2. All u need to do is press 1.2.3 etc....ROOT your phone....INSTALL CUSTOM RECOVERY...INSTALL CUSTOM 4.3 ROM and your problem solved with galaxy gear.....:good:....If u don't like it flash to stock....#5....wolla back to MDL stock.....and then maybe we can do some business....( i trade mine plus 64Gb Sd Card )......
I can't tell if OP is the real deal or is trolling us hardcore. My eyeballs almost bulged out reading the 'what so special about MDL' line?
So I got the 900W8 canadian version and go tit rooted, now my questions are why do we not have our own forum or do we need it. What can I flash? It's been a while since i've been on samsung. Can I flash other rom but just need my baseband or are there other thing sI should be looking out for. Any help would be great Thanks
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So I got the 900W8 canadian version and go tit rooted, now my questions are why do we not have our own forum or do we need it. What can I flash? It's been a while since i've been on samsung. Can I flash other rom but just need my baseband or are there other thing sI should be looking out for. Any help would be great Thanks
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bump, ideas anyone
Glad I found this post, I too am curious. I wonder if it will be like when I had the canadian s3 and could just flash the AT&T rooms just fine. Gonna hold of rooting the s5 until this is cleared up
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Glad I found this post, I too am curious. I wonder if it will be like when I had the canadian s3 and could just flash the AT&T rooms just fine. Gonna hold of rooting the s5 until this is cleared up
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Rooting was no issues I used chainfires method and he has a file for our W8 model. It's more the roms I curious about.
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Rooting was no issues I used chainfires method and he has a file for our W8 model. It's more the roms I curious about.
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Yeah, thats what I meant. Gonna wait in general until the rom variants are sorted, who knows maybe there will even be a way to root without trip.
Hey guys. I got a notification about a software update for my Rogers G900W8.
Was wondering if I should apply this update and would it affect root?
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I made a post about this the next day the S5 was lunch. Rooting wasn't an issue for me as for flashing ROMS, some are compatible here, just need to ask them first. I'm wondering if we'll get our forum as well.
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Hey guys. I got a notification about a software update for my Rogers G900W8.
Was wondering if I should apply this update and would it affect root?
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I got my phone 5 days ago had the same update notification, I did the update and then used chainfires root file and AL worked well no issues with that.
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I made a post about this the next day the S5 was lunch. Rooting wasn't an issue for me as for flashing ROMS, some are compatible here, just need to ask them first. I'm wondering if we'll get our forum as well.
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I would think most roms would work, I'm just wondering about our modem and baseband. Is it just a matter of flashing our modems to ensure lte function.
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I would think most roms would work, I'm just wondering about our modem and baseband. Is it just a matter of flashing our modems to ensure lte function.
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Meh, I didn't think about that =/. I guess you get no signals if modem/baseball aren't compatible. Is there a link to get our modem/baseband?
On the Note 3 N900w8 users got lucky, they could downgrade to JellyBean and back to Kitkat without issues, could root (on JB) without tripping KNOX and can pretty much flash ANY international ROM on their device (in this case the N9005 ROMs, N900T ROMs etc) -- IT is possible, now I use this term very very loosely that you *may* be able to flash a whole lot more than w8 only ROMs.