Mdl vs. Mf3??? - AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin

Hey guys i just got my s4 yesterday and am wondering what the difference between the 2 firmwares is. Is one better then the other? My phone downloaded an update last nite but I havent installed it yet. Was going to root this afternoon.
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MF3 locks the boot loader, so if you want to flash ROMS, don't update. It also has some software tweaks and adds Knox and the ability to easily store apps on SD card. There is a root, but not a boot loader unlock, yet.
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Ahh, I do want to flash roms. This update wont install itself will it?
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Ahh, I do want to flash roms. This update wont install itself will it?
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Do yourself a favor and search and read through the first page or so of the general and Q&A sub forums. The information you need is there, especially the "pinned" threads in the general section. Read the "software update" thread and the "new root method for MF3" thread also. Good luck.

Will do scott thanks! Im coming from an iphone and forgot how big the android world is! Had an inspire 4g prior to my 4s
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Ahh, I do want to flash roms. This update wont install itself will it?
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Some say it has auto installed

It will auto install. You should root and put a custom Rom on asap. Check your firmware first though, if it's already installed you can brick your phone trying to root the way you would with mdl. If it's mf3 you've got the update and you'll have to use a different method.
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I had Knox on MDL, not sure what your talking about.
Mf3 locks the boot loader but fixes bugs and make the camera take sharper pictures. Plus better cell signal.
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I got lucky. It tried to auto instal so i yanked the battery and quickly rooted and threw a custom rom on it.
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MF3 Stock

I rooted MF3 and all I have is root, is there anyway I can return back to stick with complete restore? If not, I can just back everything up. I will do it no matter what. My phone is working just fine, just wanted to go back to stock?
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If you mean unroot, then you unfortunately cannot do that at the moment. There is no MF3 factory image to flash back to, as of now at least.
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What do you mean, back to stock? The way it came out of the box? The way it is now unrooted? Not sure what you want to do. And how are you backing it up?
Apps don't matter to me. I can send all my pictures and text messages etc. To the computer. I mean unroot, sorry. But since there isn't any, I will just have to wait it out. Thanks for the information.
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tmac42 said:
Apps don't matter to me. I can send all my pictures and text messages etc. To the computer. I mean unroot, sorry. But since there isn't any, I will just have to wait it out. Thanks for the information.
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It's probable that you can unroot. Do you have super su? You can do an unroot in settings within it.
Yes, I have super su, is that safe? Then I will do it?
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tmac42 said:
Yes, I have super su, is that safe? Then I will do it?
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I've never tried it with mf3 so I can't answer that. It works on other firmware. Why do you want to unroot?
Because, I've always had bad luck with root and everything never works for me when I try it. Once a stable rom comes out, I will try my luck, but not at this moment.
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tmac42 said:
Because, I've always had bad luck with root and everything never works for me when I try it. Once a stable rom comes out, I will try my luck, but not at this moment.
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Good choice. Sorry I can't be of more help
I don't think just rooting is going to cause issues. Keep it and enjoy those benefits for now.
My BackUp Pro is good for backing up most things on phone. Of course you got Titanium BackUp too.
I didn't even want to flash roms on this phone. After years of doing it I was getting tired. But, did it anyway. I like TW, so don't care about aosp etc. All I really gained from flashing was some theming and nandroids. Phone, I thought, was exceptional even unrooted.
There is now stock available which was taken from Samsung Kies. Just download the file and you'll be able to flash it in odin!
Can you provide a screen shot... Last anyone knew there is no MF3 on Kies.
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Can you provide a screen shot... Last anyone knew there is no MF3 on Kies.
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Not on sammobile, mdb and mdl only
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There is now stock available which was taken from Samsung Kies. Just download the file and you'll be able to flash it in odin!
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Can you link us? I haven't seen anyway to flash back to mf3
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Andrew149 said:
Can you link us? I haven't seen anyway to flash back to mf3
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Sorry about that, just saw it was for mdb.
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Sorry about that, just saw it was for mdb.
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Thats for mdl I just read a couple pages nothing successful for mf3
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Sorry about that, just saw it was for mdb.
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Wow--watch your links--
Your unedited post made it sound like you already ran it--
"Just make sure you're on windows and it'll work beautifully! It was only til recently that mf3 started to show up through Kies. Thank AdamOuler, he's the real genius behind all of this!:
I don't know about complete restore, but some people where successful on unrooting on mf3. I didn't try it. If anybody is interested, here it is:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2396258&page=4
Update: just did the unroot method on mf3,and it fully unroot when I used root checker, it said sorry. So I guess it gone. Still runny fine five minutes after.
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So I have an MF3 S4 and I want to root it

Like the title says kinda just looking to see how screwed id be on wanting to root this and put something like Task650s ROM on my new S4 and KTs Kernel
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chrisj22 said:
Like the title says kinda just looking to see how screwed id be on wanting to root this and put something like Task650s ROM on my new S4 and KTs Kernel
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Search and read before posting and you'll be rewarded
chrisj22 said:
Like the title says kinda just looking to see how screwed id be on wanting to root this and put something like Task650s ROM on my new S4 and KTs Kernel
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Your a senior member so you know better."GENERAL SECTION".
Just braking your b?lls a bit.
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chrisj22 said:
Like the title says kinda just looking to see how screwed id be on wanting to root this and put something like Task650s ROM on my new S4 and KTs Kernel
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Firstly, start here... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=42320414&postcount=2
The fact that your are running the MF3 bootloader will prevent you from flashing any custom kernels due to the blown qFuse. Your only option as of right now is to root your device either using Kingo or jortex's root exploit. From their your need to install Hashcode's Safestrap Recovery and go from there with TouchWiz based ROM's for MF3.
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Your a senior member so you know better."GENERAL SECTION".
Just braking your b?lls a bit.
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So no options for overclocking or undervolting for me?
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So no options for overclocking or undervolting for me?
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Thats correct no custom kernels witch means no overclocking,I think with rom toolbox you can change the voltages.
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just asking to see if there's any last hope for it but whats LOKI? ive heard about it in the past. Ive seen on KT's Kernel thread it would work on TW but im guessing it wont work for me being the qfuse issue.
Also if none of these are an option whats the point anymore to root? my old S3 was amazing and i loved flashing new things on it but it seems so locked down now to where the only real benefit of rooting is bloatware removal.
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just asking to see if there's any last hope for it but whats LOKI? ive heard about it in the past. Ive seen on KT's Kernel thread it would work on TW but im guessing it wont work for me being the qfuse issue.
Also if none of these are an option whats the point anymore to root? my old S3 was amazing and i loved flashing new things on it but it seems so locked down now to where the only real benefit of rooting is bloatware removal.
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There is a lot of information about "LOKI" and "Rooting" in the General, Development, and Original Development sections.
This phone frustrates the **** out of me. So its rooted and all that with safestrap and when I flash a TW rom all it says is go to slot one and ceeate that and wipe the phone and install and when I do that and reboot all I get os a black screen with a blue led at the top
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This phone frustrates the **** out of me. So its rooted and all that with safestrap and when I flash a TW rom all it says is go to slot one and ceeate that and wipe the phone and install and when I do that and reboot all I get os a black screen with a blue led at the top
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Use the MF3 Odin files, go back to stock and try again. Are you positive you didn't accidentally flash your TouchWiz ROM to the stock slot? Also... was what ROM was it?
I tried StockUp MJ6 4.3 TW rom. When id flash id do tue wipe it says in the instructions and then go and create rom slot 1 and install to that and then reboot to no avail. Ill have to try the stock ODIN when I get home
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I tried StockUp MJ6 4.3 TW rom. When id flash id do tue wipe it says in the instructions and then go and create rom slot 1 and install to that and then reboot to no avail. Ill have to try the stock ODIN when I get home
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You need to use the 4.2, not 4.3 in ss.
Im hoping Flight5 4.2.2 TW will work ill try it when I get home. It saying I can flash a LOKId version of KTs kernel I didnt think that was possible on MF3
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Im hoping Flight5 4.2.2 TW will work ill try it when I get home. It saying I can flash a LOKId version of KTs kernel I didnt think that was possible on MF3
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you still have to use loki, sir, you have a lot of reading to do, please check out the stickies in the general forum, before you really wind up with a expensive paper weight.
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You need to use the 4.2, not 4.3 in ss.
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Flight5 flashed well and nlKTs kernel didnt w9rk like I figured. It does seem abit faster but as far as benchmark scores its the same. FYI to anyone reading this if you want an S4 and want the non MF3 go to RadioShack and buy your phone. At our store we got 12 of the good S4s in stock
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[Q] How can I flash Cyanogen?

I have an S4 running 4.2.2 and it's currently rooted. But the root does not allow me to have a custom recovery. I want to be able to flash Cyanogen, but I'm not able to at the current time. What is your best idea of what I should do?
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I have an S4 running 4.2.2 and it's currently rooted. But the root does not allow me to have a custom recovery. I want to be able to flash Cyanogen, but I'm not able to at the current time. What is your best idea of what I should do?
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Contact CM for a solution? I'm sorry i cant be more help ful, but if they cant do it...........
You both need to do a considerable amount of reading before ruining your devices I would start with this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2301762
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You both need to do a considerable amount of reading before ruining your devices I would start with this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2301762
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Can I do anything at this point if I'm on MF3?
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Can I do anything at this point if I'm on MF3?
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Check out Safestrap.
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Safestrap puts my phone into a boot loop
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mars4prez said:
Safestrap puts my phone into a boot loop
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Then reread the OP and make sure you do exactly what it states.
Take your time and just make sure to follow each step.
MF3 can be rooted and de bloated but has no real custom recovery.
Safe strap only allows one on 4.3 to flash 4.2 2 roms.
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I'm on 4.2.2 and I followed all the instructions very carefully, but whenever I try to load my slot with the Google edition ROM (4.2.2) the phone goes into a continuous boot loop. I have no idea what is wrong and I can't find a solution anywhere.
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I'm on 4.2.2 and I followed all the instructions very carefully, but whenever I try to load my slot with the Google edition ROM (4.2.2) the phone goes into a continuous boot loop. I have no idea what is wrong and I can't find a solution anywhere.
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make sure you partition your slot big enough...try 2 and 1.5 for data...
I did this and it still didn't work. Where is the best guide on how to exactly flash a ROM? I've been following a video guide on it, but it doesn't work.
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You are probably using the wrong GE ROM... Only certain ones work. Check the OP of the SS QA thread.
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Pick a smaller rom to start...gpe 280 mb...make sure you flash the mf3 module zip after the rom flashes...look in deadly venom 8.2 he has all the links. .his rom is awesome too..its 1.1 gb try that too
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About to buy (another) S4 tonight, please help!

Hey guys, well I'm back in action! After dumping my S4 a few months ago, I am getting another one tonight. Ever since I saw the 4.3 update on my gf's S4, I saw that things have smoothed out and things are the way they should be!
Long story short, I want to see if the one I'm getting can be rooted. It is on 4.2.2 and the baseband is I3373CUFCMF3. Am I good to root it? I've been out of the S4 game for a while, so I don't know. If I can root it, can I run 4.3?
Any help would be appreciated, thanks!
I'd try to get a MDL one so you could just flash a 4.3 custom ron
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Most, if not all current S4's will have MF3 firmware preinstalled. I doubt any store would have MDL firmware. Those devices would have had to be sitting there since early summer.
WizeGuyDezignz said:
Hey guys, well I'm back in action! After dumping my S4 a few months ago, I am getting another one tonight. Ever since I saw the 4.3 update on my gf's S4, I saw that things have smoothed out and things are the way they should be!
Long story short, I want to see if the one I'm getting can be rooted. It is on 4.2.2 and the baseband is I3373CUFCMF3. Am I good to root it? I've been out of the S4 game for a while, so I don't know. If I can root it, can I run 4.3?
Any help would be appreciated, thanks!
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Yes, with MF3 you can root. You can then install safestrap and do some roms.
However if you take the 4.3 update you lose the ability to safestrap and use some roms, but you should still be able to root. I am not 100% as I just kept mf3 and put a 4.2.2 rom on it.
Ok, thanks for the responses. Can I flash any ROM with Safestrap or just some? Can I flash a custom 4.3 ROM for example?
Thanks!
You cannot install anything that's not touchwiz and anything above 4.2.2
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WizeGuyDezignz said:
Ok, thanks for the responses. Can I flash any ROM with Safestrap or just some? Can I flash a custom 4.3 ROM for example?
Thanks!
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Your very limited with roms using safestrap. Even then, the ones that work, might not work all the way. If you had MDL, you could use any rom if you flash loki-doki.
Just ask if they have one with MDL firmware. Doesn't hurt to ask, right?
Thanks for the responses guys! I will see if I can get a hold of a MDL phone.
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Quick question. If I'm on MF3, can I jtag back to MDL?
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Quick question. If I'm on MF3, can I jtag back to MDL?
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No.
WizeGuyDezignz said:
Quick question. If I'm on MF3, can I jtag back to MDL?
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Get a device that isn't as locked down as the s4 or note 3. Maybe nexus 5? Unless you can live with safestrap or just root. Which I can. If your a ROM flashaholic than stay away.
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Thanks guys, I just scored a MDL on swappa. I will be back soon to root and rom!
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Nice!
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Can someone please me a link

Please send me rooting link for Verizon Samsung galaxy note 3 that is the most current update. I having bad luck finding one. I'm on the stock jelly bean 4.3 waiting on dumb verizon to release the 4.4 kit katt.i can no longer wait so I want to root
Use kingo.
Third sticky thread in this General section.
So how do I find this link. Can't find it
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So how do I find this link. Can't find it
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2518808
If i root my note 3. Can I change roms since the boot loader is locked?
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If i root my note 3. Can I change roms since the boot loader is locked?
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After rooting, install hashcode's SafeStrap (in android development section). Then you'll be able to install any TouchWiz based ROM (Verizon).
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If i root my note 3. Can I change roms since the boot loader is locked?
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Use this link and it will tell you everything you need to know to root the verizon. and load custom roms. It is what i followed.
However if you have any troubles with kingo not rooting your phone, then try Kingo 1.1.6 version. Look at My sig down below at exactly what i did.

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