I wasn't sure if its possible with the nexus 4 to root in order to have the benefits of adding features like beats mods (if that's even possible on stock) and to have root access for subtle improvements to stock, but still receive ota updates from google? Any advice or information is appreciated.
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OTA Updates = Stock recovery
So I can root but not change recovery. But then I couldn't flash any mods to the stock, huh?
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So I can root but not change recovery. But then I couldn't flash any mods to the stock, huh?
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For OTA updates you can have root but system and kernel must be stock without any modyfication, you can update with custom recovery but you must do that manualy (download update.zip and flash via custom recovery)
OTA updates will install fine if you are just rooted and even with custom recovery.
With custom recovery the OTA update will install through the recovery.
However, you will encounter problems as soon as you change, mod, remove system files.
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Ok just got prompted for this. I'm rooted, is it safe to update and reroot? Anyone know what changed? Thanks
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Just flash a ROM that's based off the current ota. Or if you want to go the stock route there is a rooted pc36img.zip floating around development that will upgrade your radios, hboot, kernel and ROM.
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Oh boy!...
Just flash one of the custom ROMs that already have this update implemented. There is no need to unroot and regain root privileges.
I don't want a custom Rom. If I can upgrade and reroot that is what ill do. Just asking is it safe.
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Just flash a ROM that's based off the current ota. Or if you want to go the stock route there is a rooted pc36img.zip floating around development that will upgrade your radios, hboot, kernel and ROM.
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I'm assuming this is an image of the updated Rom. Hard to search via tapatalk
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I'm assuming this is an image of the updated Rom. Hard to search via tapatalk
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That's correct. It's the easiest way to update everything to the latest ota without losing root.
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Do you have a link. I actually tried to go through with the update via OTA and it failed during install.
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If failed because you still have a custom recovery on your phone. You can only install an actual OTA if you have a stock recovery. Sorry, no link. On the xda app right now. If you still need it when I get home later I'll post it for you.
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Yes please thanks. Unsure of the fixes in this update.
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I rooted with Unrevoked and running the stock rom is ok to run ota update?
Why do you guys want to apply an ota after going through root? There are completely stock roms from the latest update so it'll be just like an ota except keeping root. Steelh rom I believe is one of them
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I rooted with Unrevoked and running the stock rom is ok to run ota update?
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No, it will not work for the same reasons that I described earlier.
Here is the link to the thread that has the rooted stock pc36img.zip. Download the file, rename it to pc36img, put it on the root of your sd card, boot into hboot and run the update once it's done loading. More detailed instructions are in the first post of that thread. You will lose all your data so make sure to back it up with Titanium or MyBackup so you can load everything back on after the update.
Why do you guys want to apply an ota after going through root? There are completely stock roms from the latest update so it'll be just like an ota except keeping root. Steelh rom I believe is one of them
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Doing it the way I described will ensure they are fully up to date, including radios, pri and hboot. Simply flashing a ROM won't update those. I think doing it this way will be easier for the inexperienced, with much less potential for screwing something up.
I dont know if I really wanna flash my radio though, I heard flashing a radio can really jack up your 4G.
I just got my Nexus and installed the update to 4.2.2. Did I just screw myself on Rom and rooting
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big70tom said:
I just got my Nexus and installed the update to 4.2.2. Did I just screw myself on Rom and rooting
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No you're fine. I just got mine yesterday and naturally the first thing I did was update. The steps to unlock the bootloader and flash a recovery (or SuperSU, if you want root on stock ROM) are the same regardless of Android version.
EDIT: Also you DON'T NEED TO ROOT to use ROMs—all ROMs come with root already built in. Skip everything to do with rooting, unless you're trying to root and stay on the stock ROM.
All you need is to unlock the bootloader (ridiculously easy) and flash a custom recovery (also super easy). Then, without root, use the custom recovery to wipe and flash your ROM (which has root built in) and gapps.
Hello all,
I am really interested in trying out the Franco Kernel on my Nexus 4 but would still like the ability to update OTA in the future if possible.
From my research I understand that you lose the ability to do OTA updates once a custom kernel is installed.
If I ever wish to update OTA in the future is there a way? Can I just install the stock kernel and do an OTA update (without losing data on the phone)?
Appreciate your help on this.
FaeLLe said:
Hello all,
I am really interested in trying out the Franco Kernel on my Nexus 4 but would still like the ability to update OTA in the future if possible.
From my research I understand that you lose the ability to do OTA updates once a custom kernel is installed.
If I ever wish to update OTA in the future is there a way? Can I just install the stock kernel and do an OTA update (without losing data on the phone)?
Appreciate your help on this.
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Yes you can after flashing back the stock kernel
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Yes you can after flashing back the stock kernel
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Will I lose any data on phone after I flash stock kernel?
What about root, does flashing stock kernel affect root status? I think not since Su binary is in file system.
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Will I lose any data on phone after I flash stock kernel?
What about root, does flashing stock kernel affect root status? I think not since Su binary is in file system.
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You won't lose any data or root access by flashing kernels.
Even if you have a custom recovery with the stock kernel, you can still receive OTAs?
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Even if you have a custom recovery with the stock kernel, you can still receive OTAs?
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As long as everything else is stock yes.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2145848
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Hello guys.. This is my first post and i am kinda new to rooting..
I did some research and rooted my nexus 4 using the NRT 1.6.3
I didn't install CWM or TWRP (Kept the flash CWM option unchecked under the ROOT button)
So basically I just have the Root access for the phone. Nothing more (i guess)
So am I still running on Stock Android ????
Moreover when any system updates comes in the future, can i perform the OTA updates or do i have to download it and install it from the recovery mode ???
Some people say that if u didn't install CWM or TWRP (Like i did), u can normally perform the OTA updates without any extra steps
But If u have CWM, then there are chances of bricking the phone..
I am confused. Any help would be appreciated
If you are just rooted and have not flashed any rom,which would not be possible without custom recovery, then you are still running the stock android and all the ota updates will be installed automatically
You have not installed any recovery and not any rom, then root should not be a problem for ota updates, they will come as usual and will be installed
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naman14 said:
If you are just rooted and have not flashed any rom,which would not be possible without custom recovery, then you are still running the stock android and all the ota updates will be installed automatically
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Thanks for the quick reply.
I am almost sure that i have not installed any quick recovery, but if by chance the NRT automatically installed some quick recovery, and i dont flash any ROM, so can i still perform the OTA updates in the future ??
Is there still chance to brick my phone in doing so ???
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If you are just rooted and have not flashed any rom,which would not be possible without custom recovery, then you are still running the stock android and all the ota updates will be installed automatically
You have not installed any recovery and not any rom, then root should not be a problem for ota updates, they will come as usual and will be installed
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What about unlocking the bootloader? Does that hinder in process of ota?
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Since you have already unchecked the option for custom recovery, NRT wouldd not have installed any recovery.
Rest assured you are not going to brick your device performing ota updates
You can still check if you have any custom recovery installed by pressing power button and volume up and volume down button simuntaneously when phone is switched off
BTW i think that even having a custom recovery installed would not have effect on ota updates but a custom rom will surely be
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Nope, unlocking bootloader will not hinder ota updates
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Since you have already unchecked the option for custom recovery, NRT wouldd not have installed any recovery.
Rest assured you are not going to brick your device performing ota updates
You can still check if you have any custom recovery installed by pressing power button and volume up and volume down button simuntaneously when phone is switched off
BTW i think that even having a custom recovery installed would not have effect on ota updates but a custom rom will surely be
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Alrighty.. I'll try that..
If i have a custom recovery, what should pressing the power and volume keys do during a boot ??
I mean it will take me to the default recovery mode, or to the custom recovery whichever is installed, right ??
Yes, if you have not installed any custom recovery, it would take you to stock recovery and you would be fine
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I know using twrp recovery allows you to still accept ota updates the normal way but im not sure about cwm
okay..
another question.. if i perform any OTA update, will i lose the root ??
Is there any way for performing an OTA update in which i dont lose my root ?
Here's all the info you need. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2145848
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My problem doesn't lie in any of the scenarios
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Here's all the info you need. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2145848
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Thats a good link there. Correct me if i'm wrong, but my problem doesn't lie in any of the scenarios mentioned there..
I am stock + rooted 'without' any custom recovery..
is it just me, or there is no scenario mentioned there for such a case ??
You will not brick your device by ota updates
You dont have any custom recovery So there qould be no problem for ota updates they will be updated as usual
You should not lose root access while doing ota updates, and in case it goes away then how much time does it take to gain root access back with NRT?
And all the way google releases updates when everything has been done, so it is just one time update,
AGAIN, you are fine , there qould be no problem for future ota updates
And i think that most probably by the time google releases another version of android, you would be running a custom rom
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You can be on Stock Rom with No Mods Unlocked Rooted with a Custom Recovery and you will get the ota update and it will install fine.
The ota update link will be posted here before you get on your device so it's good to have a custom recovery so you can just flash it. It will also protect you from losing root and your custom recovery
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Thanks a lot guys.. That pretty much answered all my questions
So as I've gathered I can't update OTA when one is available if I have a custom recovery (CWM, TWRP). My question however is if I will be able to apply the update using my custom recovery, and if so, will I retain root and all my frozen bloat from TiBa? Thanks.
If you're talking about stock ota, then no if you have a custom recovery
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blyndfyre said:
So as I've gathered I can't update OTA when one is available if I have a custom recovery (CWM, TWRP). My question however is if I will be able to apply the update using my custom recovery, and if so, will I retain root and all my frozen bloat from TiBa? Thanks.
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Will get custom updates that you can flash through recovery long before the carrier releases the same update..
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Will get custom updates that you can flash through recovery long before the carrier releases the same update..
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You are referring to custom ROM's correct? I was hoping to remain stock and root and still be able to apply updates.
Maybe I should be the bullet and flash a custom ROM that still incorporates TW (want the gestures).
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You are referring to custom ROM's correct? I was hoping to remain stock and root and still be able to apply updates.
Maybe I should be the bullet and flash a custom ROM that still incorporates TW (want the gestures).
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thats what i am doing.