Need some help from the Recovery Gods - AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin

I have a pre_MF3 phone but my gf has this device with NC1 Bl, I was able to use geohot's root method to acquire root access. I have supersu installed but can't update binaries. I tried using goo.im to install a recovery but that seems to have failed (it says it installed successful). Each to I try to reboot recovery it boots into DL mode and will continue doing that until I pull battery and force a it into the "booting a custom software" screen to which then I can push vol down and restart it normal but cannot in anyway get it into recovery mode. I'm assuming this may have to deal with it being a "loki'd" recovery? Does this seem like a plausible issue? If it is what's the chances of say, since we can install I9505 roms that we could install the un- "loki'd" I9505 custom recoveries? Also, this isn't packaged with a recovery so, I'm assuming the best method of installing a recovery may be odin? Any feedback would be nice, Thanks in advance

Droidmissionary said:
I have a pre_MF3 phone but my gf has this device with NC1 Bl, I was able to use geohot's root method to acquire root access. I have supersu installed but can't update binaries. I tried using goo.im to install a recovery but that seems to have failed (it says it installed successful). Each to I try to reboot recovery it boots into DL mode and will continue doing that until I pull battery and force a it into the "booting a custom software" screen to which then I can push vol down and restart it normal but cannot in anyway get it into recovery mode. I'm assuming this may have to deal with it being a "loki'd" recovery? Does this seem like a plausible issue? If it is what's the chances of say, since we can install I9505 roms that we could install the un- "loki'd" I9505 custom recoveries? Also, this isn't packaged with a recovery so, I'm assuming the best method of installing a recovery may be odin? Any feedback would be nice, Thanks in advance
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Bootloader is locked. You can't have recovery besides Safestrap on any version past MDL 4.2.2. You'll have to reflash it with ODIN to fix the recovery issue and use Safestrap to flash ROMs.
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DeadlySin9 said:
Bootloader is locked. You can't have recovery besides Safestrap on any version past MDL 4.2.2. You'll have to reflash it with ODIN to fix the recovery issue and use Safestrap to flash ROMs.
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Do you understand what I'm talking about ? Geohots newest root method that works on the s5 and everything? If so I guess what you're telling me is this isn't a true root method but merely a way to get a ss installed?
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I guess I was thinking this was a true root method. It does make sense that I'll need SS seeing as how the other recovery isn't working. I'll go try installing SS
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Droidmissionary said:
I guess I was thinking this was a true root method. It does make sense that I'll need SS seeing as how the other recovery isn't working. I'll go try installing SS
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Yep,geohots is only root, still no recovery
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Droidmissionary said:
I guess I was thinking this was a true root method. It does make sense that I'll need SS seeing as how the other recovery isn't working. I'll go try installing SS
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Root is not the same as a bootloader unlock. Older phones only needed root, now that we have complicated locked bootloaders with checks we need more than just root to install a custom recovery and ROMs.

DeadlySin9 said:
Root is not the same as a bootloader unlock. Older phones only needed root, now that we have complicated locked bootloaders with checks we need more than just root to install a custom recovery and ROMs.
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No I understand and that is all my fault. I guess all this hype made me think it was a true unlock. Not just root. Im sure the hype was mostly over s5
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Droidmissionary said:
No I understand and that is all my fault. I guess all this hype made me think it was a true unlock. Not just root. Im sure the hype was mostly over s5
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it's still only root, good progress note not the whole enchilada
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[Q] running a jflteatt on a Canadian device

So I am rooted running twrp, and want to flash task650 rom. But I am getting a failure when I try. I also went to cwm and get same thing, status 7. This sucks because I love his rom. From what I understand, he uses a recovery with auto loki, so removed loki from his title. Since I have an unlocked bootloader, and he uses a auto loki recovery. Shouldn't I be able to flash his rom just like with the s3?
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Manufactured consent said:
So I am rooted running twrp, and want to flash task650 rom. But I am getting a failure when I try. I also went to cwm and get same thing, status 7. This sucks because I love his rom. From what I understand, he uses a recovery with auto loki, so removed loki from his title. Since I have an unlocked bootloader, and he uses a auto loki recovery. Shouldn't I be able to flash his rom just like with the s3?
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In theory yes... Have you tried this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2298299
LostInMyHead said:
In theory yes... Have you tried this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2298299
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I didn't use that method, I used auto root from chainfire then installed twrp from goo, rebooted into recovery and full system wipe and tried flashing as usual. No go. I then flashed cm jfltecan and no problem... So Idk. As far as I know the root method shouldn't make a difference. I am also using latest twrp. I also tried the cwm touch recovery... Stumped!
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Manufactured consent said:
I didn't use that method, I used auto root from chainfire then installed twrp from goo, rebooted into recovery and full system wipe and tried flashing as usual. No go. I then flashed cm jfltecan and no problem... So Idk. As far as I know the root method shouldn't make a difference. I am also using latest twrp. I also tried the cwm touch recovery... Stumped!
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I meant use it to just load a recovery. Status 7 means change the recovery. That tool is only for the I337M
LostInMyHead said:
I meant use it to just load a recovery. Status 7 means change the recovery. That tool is only for the I337M
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Well I figured since I just rooted today and installed latest recoveries, np. I am reaching the end of my knowledge on recoveries. Task requires you to use shabby penguins auto loki cwm based recovery.... So problem must be Based on the rom itself maybe
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Manufactured consent said:
Well I figured since I just rooted today and installed latest recoveries, np. I am reaching the end of my knowledge on recoveries. Task requires you to use shabby penguins auto loki cwm based recovery.... So problem must be Based on the rom itself maybe
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It only requires that recovery for AT&T phones. Install the Canadian recovery and try again.
LostInMyHead said:
It only requires that recovery for AT&T phones. Install the Canadian recovery and try again.
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Just tried again, status 7... If I am running a jfltecan recovery, will it even let me flash a jflteatt file? Could it be as simple as renaming the file?
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LostInMyHead said:
It only requires that recovery for AT&T phones. Install the Canadian recovery and try again.
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I guess I will have to go and modify the zip file and remove the assert prop to get it to work, looks like the only way
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Manufactured consent said:
I guess I will have to go and modify the zip file and remove the assert prop to get it to work, looks like the only way
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Your 100% correct...just gotta change the assert in the updater-script (or remove the assert all together)...its put their by default to prevent flashing a different device roms (like HTC one on sgs4) but obviously in our case we don't need to worry about compatibility except for the kernel
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Well if any one finds this thread, it works. I just edited the zip file and deleted assert in script and it flashed NP. But stupidly I used goo to install twrp after I flashed and it automatically installed the loki version. I had to odin the Canadian tar file back to get my recovery working, so any canadians who do what I did, do not update your recovery through rom manager or goo or else it will install the lokified version.
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mg2195 said:
Your 100% correct...just gotta change the assert in the updater-script (or remove the assert all together)...its put their by default to prevent flashing a different device roms (like HTC one on sgs4) but obviously in our case we don't need to worry about compatibility except for the kernel
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Thanks for that! Now I am not completely up to speed on kernels, I know what they do in a vague way, but will be educating myself in the coming weeks, but shouldn't att kernels work for Canadian devices? If they don't always, what she I be on the lookout for? I will be doing some research on them as I have a chance... Hard right now as I have a 2 year old!
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Root att s4 without computer

I don't have access to a computer to root my att S4. Is there any way to do it without a computer?
I only have my note 8 with me.
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No, you'll need a computer for at least part of the process. What firmware ate you on?
I have a deathly slow xp laptop available.
Firmware is i337UCUEMK2
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sparker366 said:
I have a deathly slow xp laptop available.
Firmware is i337UCUEMK2
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Well luckily rooting isn't that system taxing. I rooted mine on a 2006 laptop...slow but worked
Just read this guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2314494
and use this method to root:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2565758
Call me a moron but I am stuck in download mode after not following the instructions for the recovery. I used goo manager to install twrp. How can I recover from this?
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sparker366 said:
Call me a moron but I am stuck in download mode after not following the instructions for the recovery. I used goo manager to install twrp. How can I recover from this?
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You can't install a custom recovery if you have mk2 firmware your bootloader is locked and currently the only way to run a custom ROM is to use safe strap. You can try this to unbrick http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2573080 or take it to a best buy with a Samsung experience shop and beg them to flash it.
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Well not sure what steps to do as the phone is in download mode. I see the 4th post in that thread has boot modem and recovery and that seems to be what screwed up flashing twrp. I could try that set of steps and see or can I flash back to the previous firmware and be all good and hope the MK2 ota is pushed to me.
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Well I flashed the stock recovery and boot img and I got my phone back. Will wait to see if twrp gets supported before flashing a custom rom.
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You can't get twrp to work unless someone counteracts sammy's bootloader lockdown--I don't see that happening anytime soon
You need to use SafeStrap as mentioned--read up a lot on it in the General and Q&A sections
You can still flash a fair number of quality roms, but you are limited
You must use SafeStrap's recovery, which if memory serves me, is loosely based on twrp

root 4.4.2

I installed this new room now I lost my Root. Is there no way to get it BACK? I NEED titanium bad
Not yet
Does mobile Odin work for 4.4.2? If so try flashing with that and using the inject su option
thatsupnow said:
Does mobile Odin work for 4.4.2? If so try flashing with that and using the inject su option
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I can't see a signature in the mobile app, so forgive me if it is stated. This may not work if he is in US. The i337 is not listed as a compatible model, most likely because of the locked bootloader.
That app sounds great though. I will have to remember it for other unlocked Samsung phones.
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Odin probably wouldn't work because we can't get custom recoveries onto our devices.
Any other root methods available for 4.4.2?
You mean it's been a whole WEEK and we don't root for this yet???
What are we paying all these devs for?
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recovery failed multiple times

Hello xda community.
i just purchased a galaxy s4 from a friend he he updated it to kitkat 4.4.2. i rooted itbut im having an issue installing a custom recovery. i tried the cmd method, the twrp apps on the market but although it says succesfull when i try to reboot into recovery it goes onto download mode. Someone please help me. i know samsung has a security system for the boatloader and i dont care tripping the securty system because im not with at&t nor on contract.
please help me i want to flash cm11 so bad.
androidfine16 said:
Hello xda community.
i just purchased a galaxy s4 from a friend he he updated it to kitkat 4.4.2. i rooted itbut im having an issue installing a custom recovery. i tried the cmd method, the twrp apps on the market but although it says succesfull when i try to reboot into recovery it goes onto download mode. Someone please help me. i know samsung has a security system for the boatloader and i dont care tripping the securty system because im not with at&t nor on contract.
please help me i want to flash cm11 so bad.
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Try this one. It's what I use.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2427125
Apoplectic1 said:
Try this one. It's what I use.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2427125
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I've seen that but I heard/read if you mess up that's it for your phone. Plus toy never truly have a Susie stable recovery. Seems like a lot of risk
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androidfine16 said:
I've seen that but I heard/read if you mess up that's it for your phone. Plus toy never truly have a Susie stable recovery. Seems like a lot of risk
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I can't say I have ever heard of anyone messing up the installation process before. It's load the apk to your SD card, install it to your phone and then tapping the install button once you open it. That's it.
As long as your root method installs busybox and your SU app disables Knox, you should be fine.
androidfine16 said:
Hello xda community.
i just purchased a galaxy s4 from a friend he he updated it to kitkat 4.4.2. i rooted itbut im having an issue installing a custom recovery. i tried the cmd method, the twrp apps on the market but although it says succesfull when i try to reboot into recovery it goes onto download mode. Someone please help me. i know samsung has a security system for the boatloader and i dont care tripping the securty system because im not with at&t nor on contract.
please help me i want to flash cm11 so bad.
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Trying to load a custom recovery on a locked bootloader could mess up your phone. Safestrap was made for our phones. Read up a bit you'll see we can't do normal custom recoveries and we can't flash normal roms cause we're locked. Only thing we can do is root and safe strap. I'll suggest odin nb1 update to nc1 root. The reason I say odin to nb1 is because right now you don't have a recovery at all due to you trying to install cwm or twrp.
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Apoplectic1 said:
I can't say I have ever heard of anyone messing up the installation process before. It's load the apk to your SD card, install it to your phone and then tapping the install button once you open it. That's it.
As long as your root method installs busybox and your SU app disables Knox, you should be fine.
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So I'll be able to install cm 11. Without any complications?
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I don't have a current recovery. Your right about that . How do I fix it
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androidfine16 said:
So I'll be able to install cm 11. Without any complications?
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Do you have an AT&T S4? If so then no. It will not load if you try. Until someone figures how to crack the locked bootloader, we are stuck with ROMs that use stock Samsung (you'll also hear them referred to as TouchWiz or TW) kernels. I believe CM uses their own custom one.
I am able to use the Google Edition one because a user modified it to work on aTouchWiz kernel, and even then things like USB file transfer does not work.
I do not believe anyone has done the same for CM.
androidfine16 said:
I don't have a current recovery. Your right about that . How do I fix it
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You need to odin nb1 (flash back to stock) this will put your recovery back.
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Apoplectic1 said:
Do you have an AT&T S4? If so then no. It will not load if you try. Until someone figures how to crack the locked bootloader, we are stuck with ROMs that use stock Samsung (you'll also hear them referred to as TouchWiz or TW) kernels. I believe CM uses their own custom one.
I am able to use the Google Edition one because a user modified it to work on aTouchWiz kernel, and even then things like USB file transfer does not work.
I do not believe anyone has done the same for CM.
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Yes I have the at& t s4. And that sucks I was really looking forward to flashing cm 11s. I don't care for the knox being ticked off being that I'm on no contract. Do you think I can use Odin or something to revert back to 4.2 safely without bricking the device. I hate touch wiz. And the battery drains quickly plus the phone gets hot when used for a while
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drock212 said:
You need to odin nb1 (flash back to stock) this will put your recovery back.
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Won't this look the bootloader cause I read downgrades are practically unsafe on this device. If not than I'd much rather go back to 4.2 so I can load a custom recovery being that u don't mind tripping knox. So long that it doesn't Brick or render the phone use less
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androidfine16 said:
Won't this lock the bootloader cause I read downgrades are practically unsafe on this device. If not than I'd much rather go back to 4.2 so I can load a custom recovery being that u don't mind tripping knox. So long that it doesn't Brick or render the phone use less
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androidfine16 said:
Won't this look the bootloader cause I read downgrades are practically unsafe on this device. If not than I'd much rather go back to 4.2 so I can load a custom recovery being that u don't mind tripping knox. So long that it doesn't Brick or render the phone use less
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Odining back to NB1 will not trip Knox. Also, I believe downgrading to 4.2 will not touch your bootloader, if it were that easy we'd all be rocking CM.
You could run this ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2767026
Its technically not a TW ROM, but it has its quirks. It was never intended to work on locked bootloader phones, but it has been retrofitted on to them.
Wrote this if you would like a guide on how I got 4.4.4 version up and running, it's kind of tricky.
androidfine16 said:
Won't this look the bootloader cause I read downgrades are practically unsafe on this device. If not than I'd much rather go back to 4.2 so I can load a custom recovery being that u don't mind tripping knox. So long that it doesn't Brick or render the phone use less
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Nb1 and nc1 are the same. Nb1 is just a small update over nb1, there isn't even a tar file for nc1 because it's such a small update. You won't be able to odin back to anything prior to nb1 unfortunately without bricking. Now I do understand the hatred of touchwiz but once you're rooted you're able to delete a lot of the garbage bloatware put on by Samsung and AT&T. This makes the phone so much better along with super long battery life. I've been able to get 4.5 hours of on screen time and about 16 - 17 hours of off the plug time like this.
When deleting bloat you can easily Google and find lists of what people have deleted off their phones using titanium backup (amazing app, let's your freeze or delete what you don't want). Also one thing I found out which is dumb. Deleting Samsung hub breaks auto rotation (what one has to do with the other I'll never know) but you can download the file needed to fix that here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=51260826
I've had my touchwized sgs4 for about 3 weeks now and can say I'm not as upset with it as I thought I would be. Let me know if you have any questions about certain things. I've found a lot of workarounds and little edits here and there to get my phone a lot closer to how I want it.
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Are there people working in unlocking our bootloader because this thing is really annoying .
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Ps: No one answered my question. If I don't care for tripping the bootloader being that I'm on no contract. Is their a way to trip the flash counter and get on a recovery? I don't care for Samsung security knox or their bootloader security.
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androidfine16 said:
Ps: No one answered my question. If I don't care for tripping the bootloader being that I'm on no contract. Is their a way to trip the flash counter and get on a recovery? I don't care for Samsung security knox or their bootloader security.
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Nope. Bootloader and knox are completely different. Knox will just give annoying messages once tripped. Bootloader without unlock we're pretty much dead in the water. There has been some talk about ways to possibly unlock the bootloader so it's definitely being worked on. I've also read that the black hat even (hackers convention) might have something promising. Also anything that is done on the s5 could very well apply to the s4. It's all just a matter of time
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Nope. Bootloader and knox are completely different. Knox will just give annoying messages once tripped. Bootloader without unlock we're pretty much dead in the water. There has been some talk about ways to possibly unlock the bootloader so it's definitely being worked on. I've also read that the black hat even (hackers convention) might have something promising. Also anything that is done on the s5 could very well apply to the s4. It's all just a matter of time
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Sounds great that the s5 and s4 integrate . Also there's a bunch of stuff online which shows how to disable certain aspects of the bootloader using linux (Ubuntu) . Do you think that'll work. It's a huge risk.
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androidfine16 said:
Sounds great that the s5 and s4 integrate . Also there's a bunch of stuff online which shows how to disable certain aspects of the bootloader using linux (Ubuntu) . Do you think that'll work. It's a huge risk.
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If it hasn't been done to give us anything I wouldn't do it. Only thing we have right now is safestrap. Which is similar to a dual boot
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If it hasn't been done to give us anything I wouldn't do it. Only thing we have right now is safestrap. Which is similar to a dual boot
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Similar to dual boot but can't load any rom you want on it
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[Q] Flashify to flash recovery

Hello Everyone just want to ask before I go to root and install recovery Im still stock and not rooted so heres my idea to root and install custom recovery
1. Root using towelroot
2. Install recovery using Flashify
3. Install custom rom
can this method work? anyone have tried this? since I dont want to use odin because Im still noob
TIA
Towel root may not work, you may have to use Odin because Samsung patched their kernels.
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Towel root may not work, you may have to use Odin because Samsung patched their kernels.
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I see then what recovery do you prefer? TWRP/philz touch?
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I see then what recovery do you prefer? TWRP/philz touch?
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It's personal preference, but I personally like to use TWRP.

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