Getting low benchmark scores. - G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

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As you can see in the screenshot, my D802 is getting some pretty bad benchmark scores(20k). When I'm lucky I can get up around the 30k mark, then when I'm not so lucky, I fall down to performance lower than the GS4. I know, I know, benchmark scores doors not really matter in real world usage. But when it comes to crunching numbers, I expect the processor to perform its best!
Just some info about my setup:
-D802
-CyanogenMod 10.2 Nov 14 nightly.
-The "Custom G2" kernel by Wootever
-My device is overclocked to 2.5Ghz (saw a little performance increase, BTW this OC was done within the "performance" menu in cm10.2)
-Anything else important?
And just if anyone was wondering, all my scores are better with CM than on the stock LG firmware.
Any magic I can do to bump my bench scores? I have heard some people talking about a hidden dial menu, but I can't seem to access it..
Any help, or just feedback is appreciated!
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PedexGaming said:
As you can see in the screenshot, my D802 is getting some pretty bad benchmark scores(20k). When I'm lucky I can get up around the 30k mark, then when I'm not so lucky, I fall down to performance lower than the GS4. I know, I know, benchmark scores doors not really matter in real world usage. But when it comes to crunching numbers, I expect the processor to perform its best!
Just some info about my setup:
-D802
-CyanogenMod 10.2 Nov 14 nightly.
-The "Custom G2" kernel by Wootever
-My device is overclocked to 2.5Ghz (saw a little performance increase, BTW this OC was done within the "performance" menu in cm10.2)
-Anything else important?
And just if anyone was wondering, all my scores are better with CM than on the stock LG firmware.
Any magic I can do to bump my bench scores? I have heard some people talking about a hidden dial menu, but I can't seem to access it..
Any help, or just feedback is appreciated!
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When I first saw the Chart I thought to myself "CyanogenMod" then I read your post aaaand "CyanogenMod". Most people have been complaining about low bench scores on CM nightlies, some are better than others but Ive read post about people getting in the 17k with CM. Flash the stock Rom then post your scores and see how much that helps the cause.
Edit: Quick note, I dont think I have ever gotten over 23k with CM on this device so I have experienced this as well, not just reading up on it.

Walter21026 said:
When I first saw the Chart I thought to myself "CyanogenMod" then I read your post aaaand "CyanogenMod". Most people have been complaining about low bench scores on CM nightlies, some are better than others but Ive read post about people getting in the 17k with CM. Flash the stock Rom then post your scores and see how much that helps the cause.
Edit: Quick note, I dont think I have ever gotten over 23k with CM on this device so I have experienced this as well, not just reading up on it.
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The thing is just that i cant stand the look or feel of the stock LG ui. So any other AOSP like rom that is good performing? Also, im not getting that much better scores with the stock rom..
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PedexGaming said:
The thing is just that i cant stand the look or feel of the stock LG ui. So any other AOSP like rom that is good performing? Also, im not getting that much better scores with the stock rom..
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All the AOSP roms that dont have major bugs are all performing very well. They just dont score well, its not at all indicative of the hardware, its the Rom. But if your having very low scores on a stock Rom then you might need to get it replaced. Do you have shots of the stock scores? Also make sure that your not using your phone for about 5 min before benching at all or else you might thermal throttle.
Edit: Make sure your governer is set to ondemand or performance and make sure your at 2.2ghz. Some CM roms stay stuck at 1.7ghz and im not sure if this bug has been fixed yet either.

Walter21026 said:
All the AOSP roms that dont have major bugs are all performing very well. They just dont score well, its not at all indicative of the hardware, its the Rom. But if your having very low scores on a stock Rom then you might need to get it replaced. Do you have shots of the stock scores? Also make sure that your not using your phone for about 5 min before benching at all or else you might thermal throttle.
Edit: Make sure your governer is set to ondemand or performance and make sure your at 2.2ghz. Some CM roms stay stuck at 1.7ghz and im not sure if this bug has been fixed yet either.
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Thats also what i find kinda weird, CM is way smoother than the stock ROM, but is worse when it comes to crunching numbers.
Any way I can disable the throttling without doing damage to my device?
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PedexGaming said:
Thats also what i find kinda weird, CM is way smoother than the stock ROM, but is worse when it comes to crunching numbers.
Any way I can disable the throttling without doing damage to my device?
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Even if you do that,it wont do you any good.The only way to get better scores atm is only the official roms...

woof123 said:
Even if you do that,it wont do you any good.The only way to get better scores atm is only the official roms...
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Well, thanks to you and Walter for the input.
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PedexGaming said:
Well, thanks to you and Walter for the input.
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A bounty for AOKP recently reached its goal and is going to be in development very shortly. Keep your eyes open AOKP Roms usually always bench better than CM. Its a great performance ROM with way more features than CM. Keep an eye on the original android thread. Developers name is rohan.

Walter21026 said:
A bounty for AOKP recently reached its goal and is going to be in development very shortly. Keep your eyes open AOKP Roms usually always bench better than CM. Its a great performance ROM with way more features than CM. Keep an eye on the original android thread. Developers name is rohan.
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I have just always preferred the more professional look of CyanogenMods website and other services, and I guess that is what made me think it would be one of the best out there. I will keep an eye on AOKP from now on.
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Many manufacturers are known for favoring benchmark apps in their ROMs to achieve better scores. I don't know if this is the case with the G2 but, if it is, then switching to a ROM that doesn't have that (such as CM) would make it appear less powerful on the benchmarks.

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Incredible CM7 Benchmark Scores (Post here)

I don't know how I got this, I usually only get 4100 and 4200 max but some how I ended up getting 4451! This defiantly competes with the SGS2. Please post any score you have here!
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LOL, and our OC isn't even near as high! 1.1 vs 1.5 ghz!!
SICK! Wow I cant f**king wait!
Chubby_Skunk said:
SICK! Wow I cant f**king wait!
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LOL if we break 1.1... that would be amazing. I wouldn't be surprised to see wayy over 5000!
Do yal not understand how out of date quadrant is? Its results are worthless on any dualcore phone period.
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jug6ernaut said:
Do yal not understand how out of date quadrant is? Its results are worthless on any dualcore phone period.
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Haha, yeah I'm pretty sure every one knows that. It's just fun being silly with it
This should be in general, not themes and apps.
Why is that ?... post about a quadrant score , which is an app .
Is there any good benchmark for dual core ?
ofek said:
Why is that ?... post about a quadrant score , which is an app .
Is there any good benchmark for dual core ?
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Yeah, it's called real lief performance.
If everything works with no lag = epic bench mark
If something lags = crappy software
xploited said:
Yeah, it's called real lief performance.
If everything works with no lag = epic bench mark
If something lags = crappy software
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Lol +0+0+0+0+0+1= +1
Use Chain Fire (CF) Bench... much better for dual core
CaelanT said:
This should be in general, not themes and apps.
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Well this is sort of where this kind of benchmark stuff has always been.
CaelanT said:
This should be in general, not themes and apps.
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Quadrant is an App
1. How are you doing a quadrant benchmark? Mine errors out at "decoding video". (10/12)
2. I am working on a 1.2 ghz overclock kernel. So far a lot of bugs, maybe that's why quadrant failed... if I succeed, I will try 1.4... if I can even out the major bugs I will release it.
Also, just want to add that on said kernel I got a 6752 overall in Chainfire...
Kthxbai
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trvstw said:
1. How are you doing a quadrant benchmark? Mine errors out at "decoding video". (10/12)
2. I am working on a 1.2 ghz overclock kernel. So far a lot of bugs, maybe that's why quadrant failed... if I succeed, I will try 1.4... if I can even out the major bugs I will release it.
Also, just want to add that on said kernel I got a 6752 overall in Chainfire...
Kthxbai
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You're likely getting an error at "decoding video" because you have used your camera. In order to get quadrant to work properly, you have to run a benchmark before you've opened the camera and caused it to force close.
thegregulator said:
You're likely getting an error at "decoding video" because you have used your camera. In order to get quadrant to work properly, you have to run a benchmark before you've opened the camera and caused it to force close.
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Thank you.
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Smartbench 2011
Awesome Benchmark...
does graphics tests
whats the point hight quadrant or any benchmark if the phone stills laggy and can't play 720p lose the fingerprint captabilities and webtop?!
if you want hight quadrant without webtop and fingerprint buy another phone xD lol
just saying.....please don't interpret me wrong
or, if you want all those features, don't install a pre-beta version of a ROM?
highest quadrant score i've gotten so far is 3400-3500, what are you guys doing with your settings to get so high?
Alcapone263 said:
or, if you want all those features, don't install a pre-beta version of a ROM?
highest quadrant score i've gotten so far is 3400-3500, what are you guys doing with your settings to get so high?
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I'm not sure how many times you've tried the test, but I did it about five times in a row and each time my score raised by about 150 until it steadied at 4200 or so. Make sure to free as much RAM and extra processor usage as possible using a task manager or similar. Also, are you at 1.1Ghz? That's what I'm at with the kernel that came with the CM7 pre-beta install. I believe it is faux's kernel.
vinay427 said:
I'm not sure how many times you've tried the test, but I did it about five times in a row and each time my score raised by about 150 until it steadied at 4200 or so. Make sure to free as much RAM and extra processor usage as possible using a task manager or similar. Also, are you at 1.1Ghz? That's what I'm at with the kernel that came with the CM7 pre-beta install. I believe it is faux's kernel.
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Lol, and unmount your storage (just plug it into the computer, mass storage)

ULTIMATE CUSTOM ROM Benchmark/Speed-Comparison List

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This is a list I will do further updates on,
currently I tested all Roms with Quadrant and standard installation with minimum apps and freshly tests after installation!
Benchmark used: QUADRANT
Average of several QUADRANT tests taken and combined and put in the list!
Other Roms will be checked in the future of course too
Be patient, the Note is getting hot because of flashing
[Counter above 20? xD]
PS: Pin-Thread maybe?
You DO know that benchmarks are just a bit of pointless epeen waving, and really have bugger all to do with actual device performance, right?
FloatingFatMan said:
You DO know that benchmarks are just a bit of pointless epeen waving, and really have bugger all to do with actual device performance, right?
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Not fully, you really can distinguish their performance with those benchmarks especially the memory and I/O and 2D.
Each Rom gives you different amount of processes at the beginning with different kernels and their performance. This creates a different kind of system everytime you install another Rom.
As you see I didn´t count nothing about battery life or stability, thats the only penalty with it!
interesting that Hypernote is the lowest, its the one rom I always go back too
ratcom said:
interesting that Hypernote is the lowest, its the one rom I always go back too
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IDK why Hypernote was slow, but Quadrant showed me really low results!I cant remember that Hypernote was underclocked, so the process system and the kernel may be the cause...
Cue thread deletion...
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Great idea, looking forward to more roms added to the current offerings. Yes it aint scientific but its interesting nonetheless. The OP should be thanked not chastised for the work put into this so imho the naysayers should just but out and not comment unless its a genuinely helpful and constructive comment.
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I think it would be really useful if the OP ran the test for a stock version just as a reference, an unbranded version I dare say would be best ?
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Try running quadrant back to back 5 times without any alterations or task killers and see if your scores change. And take the average, just to be scientific.
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UPDATE WITH NEW ROMS!!!!
jetsetwilly said:
Try running quadrant back to back 5 times without any alterations or task killers and see if your scores change. And take the average, just to be scientific.
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Of course I am not that stupid!
I made 3-5 Tests, deactivated Mobile Data, Sync, Rotation, any processes that can be deactivated on ANY rom, installed ONLY quadrant and killed all processes before using quadrant! Then did multiple tests, MEGA WIPE after any installation of any ROM! No additional apps, except aroma chooseable things!
AGAIN for newbs: The test SHOWS only SPEED/Performance Ability, NOT battery life, NOR stability NOR functionality! Since a LOT of things can be modded directly by the user, its the best thing to know the ROM with best performance to work with. Why? You can analyze the rom's features like kernel, modding, etc.
great job with the list man. I'm quite a fan of hypernote but I'm very surprised it placed last. maybe something important for speed was removed from the hypernote rom that's why?
I think you missed my point. And here's another thread on the same bollocks.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1916810
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Looks like a full-time job to me. So many ROMs, so many kernels, so many combinations; and, for each one, so many different other variables as have been mentioned above; e.g. indoors,outdoors, sunny, hot, cold, proximity of 3G towers towers/WIFI access points, types of movies seen, software, GPU, multi tasking, and so on This is treading a thesis, IMO.
Good idea nevertheless, although I do prefer the ARHD 5.0 with PERSEUS...now, was it 26 or 26.1?
jetsetwilly said:
I think you missed my point. And here's another thread on the same bollocks.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1916810
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I don't think they'll ever get it...
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Cue thread deletion...
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+1
manuarh said:
Looks like a full-time job to me. So many ROMs, so many kernels, so many combinations; and, for each one, so many different other variables as have been mentioned above; e.g. indoors,outdoors, sunny, hot, cold, proximity of 3G towers towers/WIFI access points, types of movies seen, software, GPU, multi tasking, and so on This is treading a thesis, IMO.
Good idea nevertheless, although I do prefer the ARHD 5.0 with PERSEUS...now, was it 26 or 26.1?
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Obviously you think too complex! Didn´t you read? I used the ROM ITSELF, the ROM's power which comes directly from the developers, such MODS and tweaks which are made by USERS don´t count, when you compare between STOCK ROM with STOCK kernel, you don´t do ANY tweaks with stock ROm to compare them with Custom Roms RIGHT?
It says CUSTOM ROM COMPARE LIST , not USER EDITED LIST with different KERNELS etc. -.-
THATS IT! There are NO big combinations ONLY different versions of the CMs to make it easy! If I would test different KERNELS I would add of course the TITLE (different kernels)
Whats so hard to understand a performance comparison?

Overclocking Possibilities

Even though the GS4 already is clocked at 1.9 GHZ what are the possibilities for overclocking? 2.3 GHZ?
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Most likely. The htc one can get around 2.0ghz for some people. Gotta factor the heat in. It depends
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jetlitheone said:
Most likely. The htc one can get around 2.0ghz for some people. Gotta factor the heat in. It depends
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It depends where you want to draw the line, more performance with less stability, or slight increase of performance and good stability. The S3 was 40% overclockable, i think 2.1ghz was the max, althoug im not sure it was stable and cool at those speeds
polish_pat said:
It depends where you want to draw the line, more performance with less stability, or slight increase of performance and good stability. The S3 was 40% overclockable, i think 2.1ghz was the max, althoug im not sure it was stable and cool at those speeds
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Ya but as far as i know on the s3 that ended up being a math error in the kernel and it was really only 1.9ish.
This device might get really hot..
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sulpher said:
Ya but as far as i know on the s3 that ended up being a math error in the kernel and it was really only 1.9ish.
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No it was not. Even today's kernels can go up to 2.1
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polish_pat said:
No it was not. Even today's kernels can go up to 2.1
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Shrug.. believe whatever you want.. but there was alot of discussion a while back in ktoonsez kernel thread about it as he fixed some math that they all used for the s3 kernels that was giving out the wrong frequency, thus the 2.1 clock speed.
Feel free to believe yours is actually 2.1 though!
sulpher said:
Shrug.. believe whatever you want.. but there was alot of discussion a while back in ktoonsez kernel thread about it as he fixed some math that they all used for the s3 kernels that was giving out the wrong frequency, thus the 2.1 clock speed.
Feel free to believe yours is actually 2.1 though!
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Math was fixed. Ive seen maybe two people with 2.1 tho highly unstable. Very highly unstable
sgh-i747(d2att)(sgs3) on latest cm10.1 or ultimatum
pcguy22 said:
Even though the GS4 already is clocked at 1.9 GHZ what are the possibilities for overclocking? 2.3 GHZ?
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The people with great CPU's and good heat dissipation will probably be able to hit 2.7 Ghz. :good:
sulpher said:
Shrug.. believe whatever you want.. but there was alot of discussion a while back in ktoonsez kernel thread about it as he fixed some math that they all used for the s3 kernels that was giving out the wrong frequency, thus the 2.1 clock speed.
Feel free to believe yours is actually 2.1 though!
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ktoonsez said:
The people with great CPU's and good heat dissipation will probably be able to hit 2.7 Ghz. :good:
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BOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!!! THE MAN HIMSELF to prove you wrong and show you to go back in i737m forums to update your knowledge a little bit before talking
polish_pat said:
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!!! THE MAN HIMSELF to prove you wrong and show you to go back in i737m forums to update your knowledge a little bit before talking
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lol noob he didnt prove me wrong, i was talking about the s3... go back under your rock
Samsung SoC are never the same, as evidenced with the S3. I would expect the S4 will be the same.
There will be an extremely small amount of people who will be able to push there CPU a hundred hertz or two higher do to luck of the batch, but other then that I would guess stable OC's at 2.3 to 2.4ghz. The hardware in the GS4 is top notch so I have high hopes for it! If I can slam 2.2ghz stable for a couple months solid, I would be tickled ^^
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lol noob he didnt prove me wrong, i was talking about the s3... go back under your rock
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2.1ghz is possible on S3, go check in 747 forums and see for yourself
polish_pat said:
2.1ghz is possible on S3, go check in 747 forums and see for yourself
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Can we please stay on track? This isn't the S3 forum. I understand you have a point to make but so does everyone else but in the right section. Just take it to private messages :angel:
Not trying to be a **** but this S3 discussion needs to stop so we can discuss S4 overclocking.
Thermalwolf said:
Can we please stay on track? This isn't the S3 forum. I understand you have a point to make but so does everyone else but in the right section. Just take it to private messages :angel:
Not trying to be a **** but this S3 discussion needs to stop so we can discuss S4 overclocking.
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We are on track, evolution on the S3 can probably be taken into consideration for the S4. Stop being to soft about where the thread is heading. Like ktoon said himself, 2.7 on the S4, that does look like the 40% i was referring to about the S3. So my point is made and it does have a lot to do with this thread.
howtomen said:
Math was fixed. Ive seen maybe two people with 2.1 tho highly unstable. Very highly unstable
sgh-i747(d2att)(sgs3) on latest cm10.1 or ultimatum
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Basically this sums it up... most noobs out there who know nothing about the s3 think it ran at 2.1 because the math error was not fixed for a very long time. Once it was fixed, only a couple of people with a golden processor could actually set the dial to 2.1, and even those people crashed within a couple of minutes.
Not gonna argue with a known troll... loved watching your angry rewrites of your post over and over though!
As to talking about the s3, it was being discussed as a comparison... if the s3 can overclock X much, then the s4 can probably do something similiar. Since ktoonsez was nice enough to take a guess at what the s4 will do, we dont have to speculate as much now.
HAHAHAHAH, known troll!!! HAHAHAHAH Good one!
You just messed up, you cannot live with the fact that i was right and you were wrong. I never did say it was stable, you just assumed i did. You just cannot say "hey polish, i'm sorry for being such a newb, you were right, the S3 can run a 2.1ghz and that math problem turned out to be fixed anyways"
The difference between me and you is that I speak the truth, you in the other hand call others noobs when clearely, you are the noob here and to try and save yourself, you try to make other look bad.
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Haha this was intense
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Bump?
I feel like this thread was never answered. I have recently rooted my phone for the first time, and I have been trying to overlook it with no such luck. I watched a few videos, and even posted a thread on Linus Tech Tips, but they are not as focused on phones as this site is. They sent me here and wished me luck on overclocking my phone. So to get to them point, I have no clue how to overclock my GS4 SGH-I337 on AT&T. I did successful root it, and I used root checker to make sure. I am hoping that you guys can help me, or redirect me to a forum that may have already explained in detail how to overclock.
Thanks!
-Alex​

Stock kernel performing better than franco.Kernel?

I'm running stock ROM, rooted and unlocked bootloader.
I ran antutu and benchmark pi on stock ROM+stock kernel and I got:
Antutu:18096
Benchmark pi:440
I flashed Franco r143 and ran antutu and benchmark pi and got:
Antutu:15526
Benchmark pi:557
I read everywhere that franco's kernel gave better performance so.....something wrong with my phone?
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Nothing is wrong with your phone.
Stop doing benchmarks on your phone. Benchmarks are sh!t.
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If you honestly judge performance by benchmarks then I don't know what to say.
But how else would I brag to my friends?
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I'm not judging performance based on benchmarks
Just wondering why the scores decreased
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I'd say the battery performance of Franco kernel comes with a price.
I just ran a test and got this on r143
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benchmarks dont prove anything
I've always found the stock kernel to be smoother. I only use Franco because I get double the battery life out of it.
Benchmarks are just a number. It means nothing when it comes to daily performance.
Franco Kernel is the same as stock kernel in terms of performance, but most likely faster. If its not faster then its something going on with your setup such as: ROM, bad apps, bad configuration when it comes to settings [did you try clearing app cache for franco kernel updater etc]
Why does gs4/htc-one get higher benchmark scores? Because they are faster.
OP you are probably getting lower benchmarks because the kernels governors are set frugally to save battery.
meangreenie said:
Why does gs4/htc-one get higher benchmark scores? Because they are faster.
OP you are probably getting lower benchmarks because the kernels governors are set frugally to save battery.
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And yet I have yet to see my N4 lag whilst every video of the S4 I see shows lag at some points and every review I've read confirms random lag. Don't try and defend benchmarks, they mean absolutely nothing.
Properly done benchmarks means whatever it is designed to mean. For example, a super computer benchmarked at 1.4 teraflop makes the designer who developed it to run at 1.4 TF extremely happy.
An apps that spew out a number that is supposed to quantify your phone's quality is bull****.
However, I do agree that stock kernel is perceivably smoother than Franco kernel though
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KyraOfFire said:
Properly done benchmarks means whatever it is designed to mean. For example, a super computer benchmarked at 1.4 teraflop makes the designer who developed it to run at 1.4 TF extremely happy.
An apps that spew out a number that is supposed to quantify your phone's quality is bull****.
However, I do agree that stock kernel is perceivably smoother than Franco kernel though
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It's probably because stock kernel is using Ondemand as it's default Governor. Frequencies go on-line more often than Franco's hotplug settings on Interactive.
Nigeldg said:
And yet I have yet to see my N4 lag whilst every video of the S4 I see shows lag at some points and every review I've read confirms random lag. Don't try and defend benchmarks, they mean absolutely nothing.
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No, the gs4 and htc-one really are faster as the benchmarks show... Software is a different matter.
Lag is generally caused by governors set to race to idle too aggressively on android. Some launchers cover this up better than others.
meangreenie said:
No, the gs4 and htc-one really are faster as the benchmarks show... Software is a different matter.
Lag is generally caused by governors set to race to idle too aggressively on android. Some launchers cover this up better than others.
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Their hardware might be faster but their software is not which completely proves my point that benchmarks are not an accurate reflection of performance. The fact that results vary so much on the same device with different software shows that they aren't a way to measure hardware performance either.
Benchmarks were never meant to be an 'accurate reflection of performance'
Benchmarks are a very accurate reflection of the performance potential and hardware of said device.
Devices with better performance 'potential' and hardware are faster devices, period. Whatever hang ups software is causing has nothing to do with it, and benchmarks are not meaningless.. some people just get the meaning wrong.
Benchmarks are not meaningless, but there is no way to effectively measure benchmarks on a cellphone.
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Bencharks are differnet cause stock kernel and custom kernel works differently..also..mpdecision are gone from custom kernels...they are enabling cpu's differently from stock kernel...if you wanna brag about it at your friends...simply show them your version number at 10th June..and give them your nexus 4 for 5-10minutes..without say nothing to them..

Is it just me??

Or have you guys also noticed increased lag and a decrease in performance when flashing to a custom rom? I did the quadrant benchmark on stock rom and on a few custom ones. The stock always scored like 4k higher. I know that doeant mean much but even just the basic performance and game play on the phone with a custom rom is decreased. Maybe its just me? Ive always flashed roms currectly and let them cycle through the battery a few times to settle.
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Or have you guys also noticed increased lag and a decrease in performance when flashing to a custom rom? I did the quadrant benchmark on stock rom and on a few custom ones. The stock always scored like 4k higher. I know that doeant mean much but even just the basic performance and game play on the phone with a custom rom is decreased. Maybe its just me? Ive always flashed roms currectly and let them cycle through the battery a few times to settle.
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It has very noticeable lag either way. Ended up with one today, was sent the wrong phone as a replacement
quadrant benchmark is a terrible, benchmarks in general are terrible.
Stock rom I usually have no lag unless battery is at 10 percent. Its beeb good to me thus far.
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I have the latest CM nightly on my device. I personally think it runs really well. Here is a benchmark. Let me know if its good or bad.
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This benchmark from stock rom. Like they said before benchmarks are terrible. But there is a noticeable difference.
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AOSP and CM 10.1 benchmarks are totally different than touchwiz benchmarks...
Also they mean nothing at all.
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AOSP and CM 10.1 benchmarks are totally different than touchwiz benchmarks...
Also they mean nothing at all.
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How so? Benchmarks "should" provide a baseline afaik?
Benchmarks don't measure the end user experience. I am running a custom ROM and experience no lag.
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AOSP and CM 10.1 benchmarks are totally different than touchwiz benchmarks...
Also they mean nothing at all.
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Yeah I thought so but other than benchmarks. But even daily use I noticed a huge difference in they way the phone was. Im not trying to start anything or cause any arguements. Just trying to figure out why it may be or if its something im doing. Im not a complete noob to android. Just a noob to the galaxy family.
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How so? Benchmarks "should" provide a baseline afaik?
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Not as all especially not from a stock touchwiz rom to a cm 10.1 rom, cm 10.1 doesnt benchmark as high, thats just the way that works. The drivers and such dont give it such a high score, but it definitely performs better then stock at most times. unless you're running a nightly which you are. Its kind of buggy at the moment.
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Not as all especially not from a stock touchwiz rom to a cm 10.1 rom, cm 10.1 doesnt benchmark as high, thats just the way that works. The drivers and such dont give it such a high score, but it definitely performs better then stock at most times. unless you're running a nightly which you are. Its kind of buggy at the moment.
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Ya I do agree that nightly's aren't the most stable but I can say I have pretty much had a lag-free experience. I prefer CM over TW hands down.
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Ya I do agree that nightly's aren't the most stable but I can say I have pretty much had a lag-free experience. I prefer CM over TW hands down.
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I prefered CM also on my Infuse. Maybe I just didnt give it much of a chance yet on this device. I had it flashed for like a week I believe.
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benchmarks on TW give me over 12 000
i have a custom rom, omega 3.1 and i just did the test and i get a nice mark.
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How so? Benchmarks "should" provide a baseline afaik?
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These benchmarks are built around the hardware AND software of the flash on the phone. Simply put, they just generate a number based on how well your phone supports the benchmark. AOKP scores like half the points then Stock TW, yet it's significantly faster and more efficient all around the board.
NEVER base your phone on a software benchmark.
Thermalwolf said:
These benchmarks are built around the hardware AND software of the flash on the phone. Simply put, they just generate a number based on how well your phone supports the benchmark. AOKP scores like half the points then Stock TW, yet it's significantly faster and more efficient all around the board.
NEVER base your phone on a software benchmark.
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Technically no one was basing the actual phone off the benchmarks, simply just the roms
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Benchmarks aren't testing the hardware directly, they use the software drivers to access the devices. The driver differences between ASOP and Stock TW are pretty substantial. To use those benchmarks to compare the two roms is not accurate by a long shot. If you were comparing CM Build 1 to CM build 4 to CM Build 6, sure, you can use it for a baseline to get a general idea but nothing is better than real world use for testing.

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