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<<<<THE V6 SUPERCharger! The ONLY Android MEMORY FIXER!>>>>

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What's it do?
It makes your phone FAST... super snappy with better multitasking!
It rearranges and fixes the OOM Groupings and Priorites and lowmemorykiller values.
So basically, it's a COMPLETE MEMORY MANAGEMENT FIX!
It's the ONLY one of it's kind
Original thread Link: The V6 SuperCharger
and
Link for a visual guide

Yeah you're right this tweak works great for me, I have about 40 more mb of RAM all the time and everything feels like its preloaded

This look great... I hope someone can make this as a software for easy application...

Hurro Avetny, do you find the i9100 running low on RAM a lot? Seems to not offer a lot above memory functions, think theres much mileage in this for SGS2 vs under (memory) equipped units like SGS1?
Interesting find, looking forward to some solid feedback
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asgard said:
Hurro Avetny, do you find the i9100 running low on RAM a lot? Seems to not offer a lot above memory functions, think theres much mileage in this for SGS2 vs under (memory) equipped units like SGS1?
Interesting find, looking forward to some solid feedback
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remember: "it's never bad, to have more RAM"

WHy is it that CM does not incorporate this into their roms ?

yup, an CWM version will be nice

I will give it a go tomorrow, very sleepy....
thanks for sharing

Love.
but is there a way to integrate it into a ROM.
Like as a Package!
need to find a Way!
EDIT 1: yup figured Out how to, will be there pre installed in my ROM. yupee!
EDIT 2: Custom ROMs will now get the /data/userinit.sh and /data/99SuperCharger.sh files.
Just change the variable (rcpath=) on line 116 to the path of your *rc file!
That's it and you can Cook it into your ROM's.
Hope it helps all you ROM Devs.

sounds great .. testing

Hmm, sounds great indeed, will try when i get home from work. Thanks for letting us know about this script
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avetny said:
remember: "it's never bad, to have more RAM"
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Not sure I agree with that. Retaining data in memory will result in better performance than unloading and reloading the same data back in again from relatively slow storage.
Trying the SuperCharger script using the "Multitasking" preset. I don't want my apps terminated just to get free RAM, then having to reload the same apps again.
Not sure if this will result in any actual performance improvements on a SGSII, given that they're already so fast, but if it can prevent Launcher screen reloads, then I'll be happy.

lindsaytheflint said:
Not sure I agree with that. Retaining data in memory will result in better performance than unloading and reloading the same data back in again from relatively slow storage.
Trying the SuperCharger script using the "Multitasking" preset. I don't want my apps terminated just to get free RAM, then having to reload the same apps again.
Not sure if this will result in any actual performance improvements on a SGSII, given that they're already so fast, but if it can prevent Launcher screen reloads, then I'll be happy.
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Agree with this. The phone has already huge RAM. Don't see the point of putting a RAM/memory tweak. I dunno about other scripts though

lindsaytheflint said:
Not sure I agree with that. Retaining data in memory will result in better performance than unloading and reloading the same data back in again from relatively slow storage.
Trying the SuperCharger script using the "Multitasking" preset. I don't want my apps terminated just to get free RAM, then having to reload the same apps again.
Not sure if this will result in any actual performance improvements on a SGSII, given that they're already so fast, but if it can prevent Launcher screen reloads, then I'll be happy.
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makes sense and wont it use more battery if it reloads the same app quite often ??

xinfinityoO said:
makes sense and wont it use more battery if it reloads the same app quite often ??
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Yeah, much like using an ATK.

Can V use this with GS1 (i9000)?

likitrt said:
Can V use this with GS1 (i9000)?
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Yes. The original thread says
It works on ALL Android devices - Custom Roms or Stock Roms, Phones or Tablets, it doesn't matter!
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works great on my sgs2 with option 9 enabled . very great stuff !! thanks !

I respect your efforts and I'm not trying to sound so negative, but as other folk have said... we don't really need a RAM fix for this device. I've never encountered a slow moment once and continue to love this phone without any "speed" improvements other than the custom rom I have installed.
In the words of Ali G though, restectpa for your efforts haha.
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avetny said:
remember: "it's never bad, to have more RAM"
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android never runs out of ram

Stock kernel performing better than franco.Kernel?

I'm running stock ROM, rooted and unlocked bootloader.
I ran antutu and benchmark pi on stock ROM+stock kernel and I got:
Antutu:18096
Benchmark pi:440
I flashed Franco r143 and ran antutu and benchmark pi and got:
Antutu:15526
Benchmark pi:557
I read everywhere that franco's kernel gave better performance so.....something wrong with my phone?
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Nothing is wrong with your phone.
Stop doing benchmarks on your phone. Benchmarks are sh!t.
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If you honestly judge performance by benchmarks then I don't know what to say.

But how else would I brag to my friends?
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I'm not judging performance based on benchmarks
Just wondering why the scores decreased
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I'd say the battery performance of Franco kernel comes with a price.

I just ran a test and got this on r143
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benchmarks dont prove anything

I've always found the stock kernel to be smoother. I only use Franco because I get double the battery life out of it.

Benchmarks are just a number. It means nothing when it comes to daily performance.
Franco Kernel is the same as stock kernel in terms of performance, but most likely faster. If its not faster then its something going on with your setup such as: ROM, bad apps, bad configuration when it comes to settings [did you try clearing app cache for franco kernel updater etc]

Why does gs4/htc-one get higher benchmark scores? Because they are faster.
OP you are probably getting lower benchmarks because the kernels governors are set frugally to save battery.

meangreenie said:
Why does gs4/htc-one get higher benchmark scores? Because they are faster.
OP you are probably getting lower benchmarks because the kernels governors are set frugally to save battery.
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And yet I have yet to see my N4 lag whilst every video of the S4 I see shows lag at some points and every review I've read confirms random lag. Don't try and defend benchmarks, they mean absolutely nothing.

Properly done benchmarks means whatever it is designed to mean. For example, a super computer benchmarked at 1.4 teraflop makes the designer who developed it to run at 1.4 TF extremely happy.
An apps that spew out a number that is supposed to quantify your phone's quality is bull****.
However, I do agree that stock kernel is perceivably smoother than Franco kernel though
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KyraOfFire said:
Properly done benchmarks means whatever it is designed to mean. For example, a super computer benchmarked at 1.4 teraflop makes the designer who developed it to run at 1.4 TF extremely happy.
An apps that spew out a number that is supposed to quantify your phone's quality is bull****.
However, I do agree that stock kernel is perceivably smoother than Franco kernel though
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It's probably because stock kernel is using Ondemand as it's default Governor. Frequencies go on-line more often than Franco's hotplug settings on Interactive.

Nigeldg said:
And yet I have yet to see my N4 lag whilst every video of the S4 I see shows lag at some points and every review I've read confirms random lag. Don't try and defend benchmarks, they mean absolutely nothing.
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No, the gs4 and htc-one really are faster as the benchmarks show... Software is a different matter.
Lag is generally caused by governors set to race to idle too aggressively on android. Some launchers cover this up better than others.

meangreenie said:
No, the gs4 and htc-one really are faster as the benchmarks show... Software is a different matter.
Lag is generally caused by governors set to race to idle too aggressively on android. Some launchers cover this up better than others.
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Their hardware might be faster but their software is not which completely proves my point that benchmarks are not an accurate reflection of performance. The fact that results vary so much on the same device with different software shows that they aren't a way to measure hardware performance either.

Benchmarks were never meant to be an 'accurate reflection of performance'
Benchmarks are a very accurate reflection of the performance potential and hardware of said device.
Devices with better performance 'potential' and hardware are faster devices, period. Whatever hang ups software is causing has nothing to do with it, and benchmarks are not meaningless.. some people just get the meaning wrong.

Benchmarks are not meaningless, but there is no way to effectively measure benchmarks on a cellphone.
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Bencharks are differnet cause stock kernel and custom kernel works differently..also..mpdecision are gone from custom kernels...they are enabling cpu's differently from stock kernel...if you wanna brag about it at your friends...simply show them your version number at 10th June..and give them your nexus 4 for 5-10minutes..without say nothing to them..

Is it just me??

Or have you guys also noticed increased lag and a decrease in performance when flashing to a custom rom? I did the quadrant benchmark on stock rom and on a few custom ones. The stock always scored like 4k higher. I know that doeant mean much but even just the basic performance and game play on the phone with a custom rom is decreased. Maybe its just me? Ive always flashed roms currectly and let them cycle through the battery a few times to settle.
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galaxyS4fandom said:
Or have you guys also noticed increased lag and a decrease in performance when flashing to a custom rom? I did the quadrant benchmark on stock rom and on a few custom ones. The stock always scored like 4k higher. I know that doeant mean much but even just the basic performance and game play on the phone with a custom rom is decreased. Maybe its just me? Ive always flashed roms currectly and let them cycle through the battery a few times to settle.
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It has very noticeable lag either way. Ended up with one today, was sent the wrong phone as a replacement
quadrant benchmark is a terrible, benchmarks in general are terrible.

Stock rom I usually have no lag unless battery is at 10 percent. Its beeb good to me thus far.
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I have the latest CM nightly on my device. I personally think it runs really well. Here is a benchmark. Let me know if its good or bad.
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This benchmark from stock rom. Like they said before benchmarks are terrible. But there is a noticeable difference.
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AOSP and CM 10.1 benchmarks are totally different than touchwiz benchmarks...
Also they mean nothing at all.

jetlitheone said:
AOSP and CM 10.1 benchmarks are totally different than touchwiz benchmarks...
Also they mean nothing at all.
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How so? Benchmarks "should" provide a baseline afaik?

Benchmarks don't measure the end user experience. I am running a custom ROM and experience no lag.

jetlitheone said:
AOSP and CM 10.1 benchmarks are totally different than touchwiz benchmarks...
Also they mean nothing at all.
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Yeah I thought so but other than benchmarks. But even daily use I noticed a huge difference in they way the phone was. Im not trying to start anything or cause any arguements. Just trying to figure out why it may be or if its something im doing. Im not a complete noob to android. Just a noob to the galaxy family.
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fosser2 said:
How so? Benchmarks "should" provide a baseline afaik?
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Not as all especially not from a stock touchwiz rom to a cm 10.1 rom, cm 10.1 doesnt benchmark as high, thats just the way that works. The drivers and such dont give it such a high score, but it definitely performs better then stock at most times. unless you're running a nightly which you are. Its kind of buggy at the moment.

jetlitheone said:
Not as all especially not from a stock touchwiz rom to a cm 10.1 rom, cm 10.1 doesnt benchmark as high, thats just the way that works. The drivers and such dont give it such a high score, but it definitely performs better then stock at most times. unless you're running a nightly which you are. Its kind of buggy at the moment.
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Ya I do agree that nightly's aren't the most stable but I can say I have pretty much had a lag-free experience. I prefer CM over TW hands down.

fosser2 said:
Ya I do agree that nightly's aren't the most stable but I can say I have pretty much had a lag-free experience. I prefer CM over TW hands down.
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I prefered CM also on my Infuse. Maybe I just didnt give it much of a chance yet on this device. I had it flashed for like a week I believe.
-Samsung Galaxy S4 Stock/Rooted-

benchmarks on TW give me over 12 000

i have a custom rom, omega 3.1 and i just did the test and i get a nice mark.

fosser2 said:
How so? Benchmarks "should" provide a baseline afaik?
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These benchmarks are built around the hardware AND software of the flash on the phone. Simply put, they just generate a number based on how well your phone supports the benchmark. AOKP scores like half the points then Stock TW, yet it's significantly faster and more efficient all around the board.
NEVER base your phone on a software benchmark.

Thermalwolf said:
These benchmarks are built around the hardware AND software of the flash on the phone. Simply put, they just generate a number based on how well your phone supports the benchmark. AOKP scores like half the points then Stock TW, yet it's significantly faster and more efficient all around the board.
NEVER base your phone on a software benchmark.
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Technically no one was basing the actual phone off the benchmarks, simply just the roms

fosser2 said:
How so? Benchmarks "should" provide a baseline afaik?
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Benchmarks aren't testing the hardware directly, they use the software drivers to access the devices. The driver differences between ASOP and Stock TW are pretty substantial. To use those benchmarks to compare the two roms is not accurate by a long shot. If you were comparing CM Build 1 to CM build 4 to CM Build 6, sure, you can use it for a baseline to get a general idea but nothing is better than real world use for testing.

Getting low benchmark scores.

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As you can see in the screenshot, my D802 is getting some pretty bad benchmark scores(20k). When I'm lucky I can get up around the 30k mark, then when I'm not so lucky, I fall down to performance lower than the GS4. I know, I know, benchmark scores doors not really matter in real world usage. But when it comes to crunching numbers, I expect the processor to perform its best!
Just some info about my setup:
-D802
-CyanogenMod 10.2 Nov 14 nightly.
-The "Custom G2" kernel by Wootever
-My device is overclocked to 2.5Ghz (saw a little performance increase, BTW this OC was done within the "performance" menu in cm10.2)
-Anything else important?
And just if anyone was wondering, all my scores are better with CM than on the stock LG firmware.
Any magic I can do to bump my bench scores? I have heard some people talking about a hidden dial menu, but I can't seem to access it..
Any help, or just feedback is appreciated!
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PedexGaming said:
As you can see in the screenshot, my D802 is getting some pretty bad benchmark scores(20k). When I'm lucky I can get up around the 30k mark, then when I'm not so lucky, I fall down to performance lower than the GS4. I know, I know, benchmark scores doors not really matter in real world usage. But when it comes to crunching numbers, I expect the processor to perform its best!
Just some info about my setup:
-D802
-CyanogenMod 10.2 Nov 14 nightly.
-The "Custom G2" kernel by Wootever
-My device is overclocked to 2.5Ghz (saw a little performance increase, BTW this OC was done within the "performance" menu in cm10.2)
-Anything else important?
And just if anyone was wondering, all my scores are better with CM than on the stock LG firmware.
Any magic I can do to bump my bench scores? I have heard some people talking about a hidden dial menu, but I can't seem to access it..
Any help, or just feedback is appreciated!
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When I first saw the Chart I thought to myself "CyanogenMod" then I read your post aaaand "CyanogenMod". Most people have been complaining about low bench scores on CM nightlies, some are better than others but Ive read post about people getting in the 17k with CM. Flash the stock Rom then post your scores and see how much that helps the cause.
Edit: Quick note, I dont think I have ever gotten over 23k with CM on this device so I have experienced this as well, not just reading up on it.

Walter21026 said:
When I first saw the Chart I thought to myself "CyanogenMod" then I read your post aaaand "CyanogenMod". Most people have been complaining about low bench scores on CM nightlies, some are better than others but Ive read post about people getting in the 17k with CM. Flash the stock Rom then post your scores and see how much that helps the cause.
Edit: Quick note, I dont think I have ever gotten over 23k with CM on this device so I have experienced this as well, not just reading up on it.
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The thing is just that i cant stand the look or feel of the stock LG ui. So any other AOSP like rom that is good performing? Also, im not getting that much better scores with the stock rom..
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PedexGaming said:
The thing is just that i cant stand the look or feel of the stock LG ui. So any other AOSP like rom that is good performing? Also, im not getting that much better scores with the stock rom..
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All the AOSP roms that dont have major bugs are all performing very well. They just dont score well, its not at all indicative of the hardware, its the Rom. But if your having very low scores on a stock Rom then you might need to get it replaced. Do you have shots of the stock scores? Also make sure that your not using your phone for about 5 min before benching at all or else you might thermal throttle.
Edit: Make sure your governer is set to ondemand or performance and make sure your at 2.2ghz. Some CM roms stay stuck at 1.7ghz and im not sure if this bug has been fixed yet either.

Walter21026 said:
All the AOSP roms that dont have major bugs are all performing very well. They just dont score well, its not at all indicative of the hardware, its the Rom. But if your having very low scores on a stock Rom then you might need to get it replaced. Do you have shots of the stock scores? Also make sure that your not using your phone for about 5 min before benching at all or else you might thermal throttle.
Edit: Make sure your governer is set to ondemand or performance and make sure your at 2.2ghz. Some CM roms stay stuck at 1.7ghz and im not sure if this bug has been fixed yet either.
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Thats also what i find kinda weird, CM is way smoother than the stock ROM, but is worse when it comes to crunching numbers.
Any way I can disable the throttling without doing damage to my device?
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PedexGaming said:
Thats also what i find kinda weird, CM is way smoother than the stock ROM, but is worse when it comes to crunching numbers.
Any way I can disable the throttling without doing damage to my device?
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Even if you do that,it wont do you any good.The only way to get better scores atm is only the official roms...

woof123 said:
Even if you do that,it wont do you any good.The only way to get better scores atm is only the official roms...
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Well, thanks to you and Walter for the input.
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PedexGaming said:
Well, thanks to you and Walter for the input.
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A bounty for AOKP recently reached its goal and is going to be in development very shortly. Keep your eyes open AOKP Roms usually always bench better than CM. Its a great performance ROM with way more features than CM. Keep an eye on the original android thread. Developers name is rohan.

Walter21026 said:
A bounty for AOKP recently reached its goal and is going to be in development very shortly. Keep your eyes open AOKP Roms usually always bench better than CM. Its a great performance ROM with way more features than CM. Keep an eye on the original android thread. Developers name is rohan.
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I have just always preferred the more professional look of CyanogenMods website and other services, and I guess that is what made me think it would be one of the best out there. I will keep an eye on AOKP from now on.
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Many manufacturers are known for favoring benchmark apps in their ROMs to achieve better scores. I don't know if this is the case with the G2 but, if it is, then switching to a ROM that doesn't have that (such as CM) would make it appear less powerful on the benchmarks.

HTC One M9 benchmarks.

Just want to show my T-mobile M9 and see if others get the similar scores on the following:
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http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/2326098

Here's what getting, very poor if you ask me, starting think my phone is faulty as laggy as hell as well.
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raymond999 said:
Here's what getting, very poor if you ask me, starting think my phone is faulty as laggy as hell as well.
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A bit low if you ask me. If you can get a replacement, I would replace it. I don't have lag issues even on many apps and games. Sense UI smoothness is superb and even Chrome is smooth unless the websites are loading while scrolling, but even then it's still far smoother than any non-HTC one phone I've used.

Your getting throttled my friend, take phone off charger for a few minutes, let the phone idle then retry, that score is definitely throttled

theveterans said:
A bit low if you ask me. If you can get a replacement, I would replace it. I don't have lag issues even on many apps and games. Sense UI smoothness is superb and even Chrome is smooth unless the websites are loading while scrolling, but even then it's still far smoother than any non-HTC one phone I've used.
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So took my back to the shop and they replaced my phone, seems a bit better.
Installed all my apps and benchmarked it.
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raymond999 said:
So took my back to the shop and they replaced my phone, seems a bit better.
Installed all my apps and benchmarked it.
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Be aware that the cpu gets underclocked when it gets hot so best checking when its cold.

did you got the 60.000 on a completely stock rom ?
ehich firmware pöease ?

B-Man2005 said:
did you got the 60.000 on a completely stock rom ?
ehich firmware pöease ?
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B-Man2005 said:
did you got the 60.000 on a completely stock rom ?
ehich firmware pöease ?
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HTC Sense 7.0 stock ROM. No root, just my apps, docs, pics and music. Here's my version:

theveterans said:
HTC Sense 7.0 stock ROM. No root, just my apps, docs, pics and music. Here's my version:
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Seems tmobile firmware must of done something because no one has got that high as of yet benchmark wise

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Just want to show my T-mobile M9 and see if others get the similar scores on the following:
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maybe its the .30 in the firmware ? i got .15
maybe 30 is faster ?

No that's not how it works, the scores are dependent on temp, the colder the device the better the benchmark
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The difference is in the thermal throttling

but i never reach nearly 60.000
when mine is cold i get max 53.500 :/
thats strange

Honestly,I think it just for fun~
As for me,just use it to play music vedio,make phone call,facebook,twitter.I hardly play game in my phone because I think the screen is too small.

B-Man2005 said:
but i never reach nearly 60.000
when mine is cold i get max 53.500 :/
thats strange
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Yeah indeed, that score is kinda high.
Highest i got was 56037: http://our.antutu.net/api/?action=v5&act=benchmark&id=28390950
With LeeDroid rom and SkyDragon kernel 1.0.3

What's the deal & issue with pointless benchmarks.
You all get in such a twist over them.
I had my note 4 first ever test (out of curiosity) scored in the 20,000 range can't remember specifics, immediately after it was 52 ish thousand, now that's a big difference, same conditions for both tests.
This is why I see them as utterly pointless and give no accurate readings what so ever.

Duncan1982 said:
This is why I see them as utterly pointless and give no accurate readings what so ever.
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Them being pointless is just your opinion, but nobody here claimed the readings are accurate.. They just give us an approximate indication as in comparison against other phones/roms/kernels.

sausje85 said:
Them being pointless is just your opinion, but nobody here claimed the readings are accurate.. They just give us an approximate indication as in comparison against other phones/roms/kernels.
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The can't even be estimates or a guide, how can my note 4 score in the 20's and then in the 50's just seconds after,
But yeh if you all want to use these as guides then who am I to say you can't

Duncan1982 said:
The can't even be estimates or a guide, how can my note 4 score in the 20's and then in the 50's just seconds after,
But yeh if you all want to use these as guides then who am I to say you can't
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So because YOU had one bad instance of a HUGE difference, suddenly EVERY benchmark is bad and useless and we should just ditch them all?!
I get it that you don't think benchmarks are useful especially in reflecting real world usage i would agree with you. But the reason you state there is just..........

sausje85 said:
So because YOU had one bad instance of a HUGE difference, suddenly EVERY benchmark is bad and useless and we should just ditch them all?!
I get it that you don't think benchmarks are useful especially in reflecting real world usage i would agree with you. But the reason you state there is just..........
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It's not just a one off, this happened repeatedly over many devices, that is why I now just ignore them.
Sorry if my posts offends your strong stance that's not my intention, nor is it to rile a reaction.
Perhaps my statements are direct and my sincere apologies.
But it is yes just of my opinion that I won't even use them as a guide because of such in accurate results over as stated many devices.