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Anyone else getting very low quadrant scores??

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This is about as high a score as I get. I'm running the new EB01 ROM with CPU set to performance and 1ghz. Anyone else getting these scores?
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Im only getting 1550ish with the new EB01 voodoo kernel. =/ That score you have is about what I get without voodoo on 2.2.

yeah im getting around 1500 with voodoo 2.2. I used to get over 2000 with 2.1 voodoo. Not sure what this is all about.

Quadrant standard is overrated unless you just like those pretty numbers.

ataranine said:
This is about as high a score as I get. I'm running the new EB01 ROM with CPU set to performance and 1ghz. Anyone else getting these scores?
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Considering a actual voodoo kernel (not leak) has yet to be released, that is expected. 1Ghz is just the normal max speed for the fascinate, so nothing surprising there.

I got 966 on my first try
From my super clean dl30 fascinate

Not sure what they mean but thats what I got
From my super clean dl30 fascinate

I scores are 1051, 1089, 1092, 1042
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Why is everyone so concerned with quadrant scores? They really don't mean anything.
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Kevin Gossett said:
Why is everyone so concerned with quadrant scores? They really don't mean anything.
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The phone runs fells like it's running faster and smoother to me than it did on 2.1 with a custom kernel. Quadrant score is lower though, so does that mean my phone is slower? No. Quadrant is just a test, its results mean absolutely nothing in terms of actual performance. If it did, that'd mean that Snapdragons are the superior CPU/GPU combo, when we all know that the Hummingbird is the most advanced chip in a phone outside of the Tegra 2.

Kevin Gossett said:
Why is everyone so concerned with quadrant scores? They really don't mean anything.
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Bragging rights..what else.

I dont care what they mean. I was just showing what I got.
From my super clean dl30 fascinate

Im getting about 1600 on eb01 on voodoo kernel without i get in the 900s but it may be because the voodoo kernel by jt is still in testing stage and he may not have it just right yet but knowing how good he is i am sure he will have it perfect soon.

I scored just over 1000 on EB01 non-voodoo but it really doesn't mean squat! I dunno why it doesn't score higher cause it fly's the way it is now... I mess with a friends Dinc all the time and I can see a huge difference in "Real World" use!

It means nothing.

Daswolven said:
It means nothing.
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Hahaha... Too funny

Benchmarking is good for 2 things, and ONLY 2 things:
1. Comparing a device to itself with different configurations to determine performance increases (like JIT vs non-JIT, voodoo vs non-voodo, etc).
2. Comparing one device to another with the same software configuration to determine build quality, find a hardware fault, etc (i.e. 2 identical SGS phones with identical software configuration, but one scores 1,500, and the other scores 600).
Other than that, benchmarks are nothing but pissing contests where one or both participants could be aiming into the wind at any given time (no matter the situation, someone ends up all wet).

Think I found an answer for you.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=11443973#post11443973
same problem on my evo.... summary = newest version of quadrant is to blame.

I was getting damn near 1600 on Jt's aosp 2.2 w/o voodoo but meh

yeah i get like 943. The quandrant scores don't lie: 2.2 has slowed our phones down immensely.

Is it just me??

Or have you guys also noticed increased lag and a decrease in performance when flashing to a custom rom? I did the quadrant benchmark on stock rom and on a few custom ones. The stock always scored like 4k higher. I know that doeant mean much but even just the basic performance and game play on the phone with a custom rom is decreased. Maybe its just me? Ive always flashed roms currectly and let them cycle through the battery a few times to settle.
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galaxyS4fandom said:
Or have you guys also noticed increased lag and a decrease in performance when flashing to a custom rom? I did the quadrant benchmark on stock rom and on a few custom ones. The stock always scored like 4k higher. I know that doeant mean much but even just the basic performance and game play on the phone with a custom rom is decreased. Maybe its just me? Ive always flashed roms currectly and let them cycle through the battery a few times to settle.
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It has very noticeable lag either way. Ended up with one today, was sent the wrong phone as a replacement
quadrant benchmark is a terrible, benchmarks in general are terrible.

Stock rom I usually have no lag unless battery is at 10 percent. Its beeb good to me thus far.
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I have the latest CM nightly on my device. I personally think it runs really well. Here is a benchmark. Let me know if its good or bad.
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This benchmark from stock rom. Like they said before benchmarks are terrible. But there is a noticeable difference.
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AOSP and CM 10.1 benchmarks are totally different than touchwiz benchmarks...
Also they mean nothing at all.

jetlitheone said:
AOSP and CM 10.1 benchmarks are totally different than touchwiz benchmarks...
Also they mean nothing at all.
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How so? Benchmarks "should" provide a baseline afaik?

Benchmarks don't measure the end user experience. I am running a custom ROM and experience no lag.

jetlitheone said:
AOSP and CM 10.1 benchmarks are totally different than touchwiz benchmarks...
Also they mean nothing at all.
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Yeah I thought so but other than benchmarks. But even daily use I noticed a huge difference in they way the phone was. Im not trying to start anything or cause any arguements. Just trying to figure out why it may be or if its something im doing. Im not a complete noob to android. Just a noob to the galaxy family.
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fosser2 said:
How so? Benchmarks "should" provide a baseline afaik?
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Not as all especially not from a stock touchwiz rom to a cm 10.1 rom, cm 10.1 doesnt benchmark as high, thats just the way that works. The drivers and such dont give it such a high score, but it definitely performs better then stock at most times. unless you're running a nightly which you are. Its kind of buggy at the moment.

jetlitheone said:
Not as all especially not from a stock touchwiz rom to a cm 10.1 rom, cm 10.1 doesnt benchmark as high, thats just the way that works. The drivers and such dont give it such a high score, but it definitely performs better then stock at most times. unless you're running a nightly which you are. Its kind of buggy at the moment.
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Ya I do agree that nightly's aren't the most stable but I can say I have pretty much had a lag-free experience. I prefer CM over TW hands down.

fosser2 said:
Ya I do agree that nightly's aren't the most stable but I can say I have pretty much had a lag-free experience. I prefer CM over TW hands down.
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I prefered CM also on my Infuse. Maybe I just didnt give it much of a chance yet on this device. I had it flashed for like a week I believe.
-Samsung Galaxy S4 Stock/Rooted-

benchmarks on TW give me over 12 000

i have a custom rom, omega 3.1 and i just did the test and i get a nice mark.

fosser2 said:
How so? Benchmarks "should" provide a baseline afaik?
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These benchmarks are built around the hardware AND software of the flash on the phone. Simply put, they just generate a number based on how well your phone supports the benchmark. AOKP scores like half the points then Stock TW, yet it's significantly faster and more efficient all around the board.
NEVER base your phone on a software benchmark.

Thermalwolf said:
These benchmarks are built around the hardware AND software of the flash on the phone. Simply put, they just generate a number based on how well your phone supports the benchmark. AOKP scores like half the points then Stock TW, yet it's significantly faster and more efficient all around the board.
NEVER base your phone on a software benchmark.
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Technically no one was basing the actual phone off the benchmarks, simply just the roms

fosser2 said:
How so? Benchmarks "should" provide a baseline afaik?
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Benchmarks aren't testing the hardware directly, they use the software drivers to access the devices. The driver differences between ASOP and Stock TW are pretty substantial. To use those benchmarks to compare the two roms is not accurate by a long shot. If you were comparing CM Build 1 to CM build 4 to CM Build 6, sure, you can use it for a baseline to get a general idea but nothing is better than real world use for testing.

Q : what is a stable kernel to overclock my N7 to 1.8 GHz ?

: what is a stable kernel to overclock my N7 to 1.8 GHz or 2.0 ghz and will work well with my stock kernel .
I am using now motley v3+ kernel but the maximum frequency is 1.6 ghz
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With the trinity kernel you can over clock up to 1.7, also there's a faux kernel that you can go up to 1.7 but its useless anyway, your tablet won't perform better because you over clock it.
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I guess you just really want to kill the tablet, huh? Even if it could clock that high without permanently damaging the silicon, you'd be looking at it being extremely unstable.
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On 4.1 there was a kernel that let you OC to 2.1GHz but that hasn't been updated to 4.2 and proally never will. On 4.1.2 with CNC and That kernel I got like 7000 in quadrant
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It performs better already since I oc to 1.6 ghz!
Why you say that
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fish droid said:
It performs better already since I oc to 1.6 ghz!
Why you say that
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Better in performance of course. Over clocking the tablet can deplete it's life span. Battery life will take a huge hit too.
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For me overclocking is totally useless. You won´t recognise a difference between no oc and oc... only in benchmarks, but your battery is draining faster and it´s getting hot

Curlie said:
For me overclocking is totally useless. You won´t recognise a difference between no oc and oc... only in benchmarks, but your battery is draining faster and it´s getting hot
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overclocking to higher frequencies will make the battery drain faster and it will get it hot but I only overclocked 300 MHz to reach 1.6 ghz and it's perfect ,it operates normally and it never got hot . I also changed the GPU frequency to 533 by trickster mod .

scream4cheese said:
Better in performance of course. Over clocking the tablet can deplete it's life span. Battery life will take a huge hit too.
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this is partially right I think it will effect the battery when the kernel request those extra 300 MHZ but it will also save the battery since I made the minimum frequency to 100 MHZ .

But why do you do it? For me there´s no notieceable difference.. only in benchmarks and i don´t care about benchmarks. For me franco kernel is best

fish droid said:
It performs better already since I oc to 1.6 ghz!
Why you say that
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There's a principle called the law of diminishing returns and it applies perfectly to this situation. The reason that kernel devs don't include higher frequency steps is that there is no real benefit. At higher frequencies, you introduce lag, random reboots, boot loops and general instability. Performance and frequency are not a linear corollary. Additionally, you exponentially shorten the life of the hardware by clocking too high. 1.6 is safe for most, 1.7 for some, and 1.8 for very few.
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najaboy said:
There's a principle called the law of diminishing returns and it applies perfectly to this situation. The reason that kernel devs don't include higher frequency steps is that there is no real benefit. At higher frequencies, you introduce lag, random reboots, boot loops and general instability. Performance and frequency are not a linear corollary. Additionally, you exponentially shorten the life of the hardware by clocking too high. 1.6 is safe for most, 1.7 for some, and 1.8 for very few.
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I think your reply is the most logical one since everyone does not know what they are talking about but I was I just asking for experimental purpose not for permanent use .
what are the kernels that will allow me to reach 1.9GHZ or 2.0GHZ on stock rom 4.2.2?

Curlie said:
But why do you do it? For me there´s no notieceable difference.. only in benchmarks and i don´t care about benchmarks. For me franco kernel is best
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franco kernel is stable . and also motley very safe and stable . and ofcource there is a difference "curlie" there is no lagging at all even when I customize my nexus with a different launcher . I don't care about benchmark also its irrelevant with the actual performance but sure there is a big difference .
but why do you choose franco kernel ?

IRX120 said:
On 4.1 there was a kernel that let you OC to 2.1GHz but that hasn't been updated to 4.2 and proally never will. On 4.1.2 with CNC and That kernel I got like 7000 in quadrant
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I get on 4.2.2 7000 scores.
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My man, you seem hell bent on frying your n7! Lol
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Tommy-Geenexus said:
I get on 4.2.2 7000 scores.
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A bit over 7000 Quadrant score on 4.2.2 here too, OC to 1.6 and still able to UV about 100 across the board and no different in stability, maybe i'm lucky one who got variant 3 of Tegra 3 here.
What I got from OC my device? It's run much more smother than when i'm at 1.3 like in facebook app for example at 1.3 I'm not able to scroll through feed really smooth but at 1.6 it's really smooth.
Concern about negative hit to battery life? I'm notice a little hit here as i'm get about 7 hours screen-time at 1.3 and about 6.5 hours at 1.6 and to me that acceptable, maybe due to UV that make it not much different.
Heat? A little lower if not the same temperature as when it's running at 1.3 again due to under voltage I think.
But however this is just my personal experience.
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If you can build from source, just add in the frequencies to the tegra3_dvfs.c and other related files. But due to several obvious reasons mentioned already in this thread, I would never do that ever.

Franco Kernel FTW!

Getting low benchmark scores.

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As you can see in the screenshot, my D802 is getting some pretty bad benchmark scores(20k). When I'm lucky I can get up around the 30k mark, then when I'm not so lucky, I fall down to performance lower than the GS4. I know, I know, benchmark scores doors not really matter in real world usage. But when it comes to crunching numbers, I expect the processor to perform its best!
Just some info about my setup:
-D802
-CyanogenMod 10.2 Nov 14 nightly.
-The "Custom G2" kernel by Wootever
-My device is overclocked to 2.5Ghz (saw a little performance increase, BTW this OC was done within the "performance" menu in cm10.2)
-Anything else important?
And just if anyone was wondering, all my scores are better with CM than on the stock LG firmware.
Any magic I can do to bump my bench scores? I have heard some people talking about a hidden dial menu, but I can't seem to access it..
Any help, or just feedback is appreciated!
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PedexGaming said:
As you can see in the screenshot, my D802 is getting some pretty bad benchmark scores(20k). When I'm lucky I can get up around the 30k mark, then when I'm not so lucky, I fall down to performance lower than the GS4. I know, I know, benchmark scores doors not really matter in real world usage. But when it comes to crunching numbers, I expect the processor to perform its best!
Just some info about my setup:
-D802
-CyanogenMod 10.2 Nov 14 nightly.
-The "Custom G2" kernel by Wootever
-My device is overclocked to 2.5Ghz (saw a little performance increase, BTW this OC was done within the "performance" menu in cm10.2)
-Anything else important?
And just if anyone was wondering, all my scores are better with CM than on the stock LG firmware.
Any magic I can do to bump my bench scores? I have heard some people talking about a hidden dial menu, but I can't seem to access it..
Any help, or just feedback is appreciated!
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When I first saw the Chart I thought to myself "CyanogenMod" then I read your post aaaand "CyanogenMod". Most people have been complaining about low bench scores on CM nightlies, some are better than others but Ive read post about people getting in the 17k with CM. Flash the stock Rom then post your scores and see how much that helps the cause.
Edit: Quick note, I dont think I have ever gotten over 23k with CM on this device so I have experienced this as well, not just reading up on it.

Walter21026 said:
When I first saw the Chart I thought to myself "CyanogenMod" then I read your post aaaand "CyanogenMod". Most people have been complaining about low bench scores on CM nightlies, some are better than others but Ive read post about people getting in the 17k with CM. Flash the stock Rom then post your scores and see how much that helps the cause.
Edit: Quick note, I dont think I have ever gotten over 23k with CM on this device so I have experienced this as well, not just reading up on it.
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The thing is just that i cant stand the look or feel of the stock LG ui. So any other AOSP like rom that is good performing? Also, im not getting that much better scores with the stock rom..
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PedexGaming said:
The thing is just that i cant stand the look or feel of the stock LG ui. So any other AOSP like rom that is good performing? Also, im not getting that much better scores with the stock rom..
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All the AOSP roms that dont have major bugs are all performing very well. They just dont score well, its not at all indicative of the hardware, its the Rom. But if your having very low scores on a stock Rom then you might need to get it replaced. Do you have shots of the stock scores? Also make sure that your not using your phone for about 5 min before benching at all or else you might thermal throttle.
Edit: Make sure your governer is set to ondemand or performance and make sure your at 2.2ghz. Some CM roms stay stuck at 1.7ghz and im not sure if this bug has been fixed yet either.

Walter21026 said:
All the AOSP roms that dont have major bugs are all performing very well. They just dont score well, its not at all indicative of the hardware, its the Rom. But if your having very low scores on a stock Rom then you might need to get it replaced. Do you have shots of the stock scores? Also make sure that your not using your phone for about 5 min before benching at all or else you might thermal throttle.
Edit: Make sure your governer is set to ondemand or performance and make sure your at 2.2ghz. Some CM roms stay stuck at 1.7ghz and im not sure if this bug has been fixed yet either.
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Thats also what i find kinda weird, CM is way smoother than the stock ROM, but is worse when it comes to crunching numbers.
Any way I can disable the throttling without doing damage to my device?
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PedexGaming said:
Thats also what i find kinda weird, CM is way smoother than the stock ROM, but is worse when it comes to crunching numbers.
Any way I can disable the throttling without doing damage to my device?
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Even if you do that,it wont do you any good.The only way to get better scores atm is only the official roms...

woof123 said:
Even if you do that,it wont do you any good.The only way to get better scores atm is only the official roms...
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Well, thanks to you and Walter for the input.
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PedexGaming said:
Well, thanks to you and Walter for the input.
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A bounty for AOKP recently reached its goal and is going to be in development very shortly. Keep your eyes open AOKP Roms usually always bench better than CM. Its a great performance ROM with way more features than CM. Keep an eye on the original android thread. Developers name is rohan.

Walter21026 said:
A bounty for AOKP recently reached its goal and is going to be in development very shortly. Keep your eyes open AOKP Roms usually always bench better than CM. Its a great performance ROM with way more features than CM. Keep an eye on the original android thread. Developers name is rohan.
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I have just always preferred the more professional look of CyanogenMods website and other services, and I guess that is what made me think it would be one of the best out there. I will keep an eye on AOKP from now on.
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Many manufacturers are known for favoring benchmark apps in their ROMs to achieve better scores. I don't know if this is the case with the G2 but, if it is, then switching to a ROM that doesn't have that (such as CM) would make it appear less powerful on the benchmarks.

G3 Antutu Benchmark

Whats your G3 Antutu Benchmark?
Mine is 26481 taken with airplane mode.
That's too low, isn't it?

It's really irrelevent. Open up a game and play it and how does it play?
Do you have any lag transitioning between apps?

Highest I got after a few tries is 30000.
Whats yours?

firecard said:
Highest I got after a few tries is 30000.
Whats yours?
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I was going to start a new thread about it. I don't really care about benchmarks but always check them for point of reference between my various tests.
See my screenshot of latest Antutu scores.
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I've not boosted, photoshopped these scores, hell no development yet, but small tweaks here and there.
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firecard said:
Highest I got after a few tries is 30000.
Whats yours?
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dont worry about it there low because of the screen ,longs as apps load fast and play well thats all what matters

I got a 0 when I used Antutu X

2gb/16gb UK version around 31000
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I now cannot get through the test without the phone saying "too hot shutting down"

Not rooted!!
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i got 35813 on my last try

Rooted stock, no performance tweaks, just visual stuff with tweaksbox. Not outstanding, but I'm pretty pleased, in game i also didn't notice any lags yet (e.g. at asphalt 8), also haven't faced any throttling yet at longer periods of high demand.
Here are some additional stats of 3dmark
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I got 36030. Pretty alright.

Stock rom, rooted with some LG bloat removed, default thermal settings retained (aka nothing modified) on ART I get 26K (the test, I believe runs better on Dalvik so I am assuming that is why my score was lower than 30K)
I decided to run Antutu X and it just gave me a score of 32K (on ART, which is usually about 5K lower than Dalvik)

After a few more runs.

Why so much big difference between the phones? I see scores from 26000 to 37000!! Why? I can understand what gives so much power in some phones.

ninjazx6 said:
Why so much big difference between the phones? I see scores from 26000 to 37000!! Why? I can understand what gives so much power in some phones.
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it's another example of why these benchmarks arent the end all be all.

ninjazx6 said:
Why so much big difference between the phones? I see scores from 26000 to 37000!! Why? I can understand what gives so much power in some phones.
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different people running phones differently, ART, Dalvik, certain ram draining apps all has an impact.
Generally Dalvik will give higher scores than ART as will having more 'free ram' (whilst giving you a higher score will not necessarily imrprove actual performance).
Temperature and battery level of the device when you run the test will also have an impact on the score.
Also I hope everyone is using Antutu X rather than Antutu - this is designed to stop cheating.

Lennyuk said:
different people running phones differently, ART, Dalvik, certain ram draining apps all has an impact.
Generally Dalvik will give higher scores than ART as will having more 'free ram' (whilst giving you a higher score will not necessarily imrprove actual performance).
Temperature and battery level of the device when you run the test will also have an impact on the score.
Also I hope everyone is using Antutu X rather than Antutu - this is designed to stop cheating.
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Agreed. In my experience even changing a launcher can increase your score.
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This is my result
37k

Tarzan- said:
I was going to start a new thread about it. I don't really care about benchmarks but always check them for point of reference between my various tests.
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Why start a new thread? It's then so hard to compare results, say, G3 vers Nexus 5 vers Note 4. 'Tis easier to post where all results are
theraker007 said:
It's really irrelevent. Open up a game and play it and how does it play?
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Well, you're not exactly right, try to run this one benchmark and post here or there screen of your highest score. It will be much-much lower than that of XZ2, or HTC M8. And some people do play themselves or give their phones to kids for they can play. And low fps in games like in example. I'm not even mention GTA SA which is he11 of bad code itself and lags on almost everything but that's different story
ninjazx6 said:
Why so much big difference between the phones? I see scores from 26000 to 37000!! Why? I can understand what gives so much power in some phones.
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Why? 'Tis so easy to understand, it's called throttling and discussed in this nearby topic