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GLBenchmark: Nexus gets it's ass kicked

Hey guys,
I've been doing these benchmarks alot on WinMo before I got my first Android device. I always felt Winmo was sluggish, but look at this:
GLBenchmark link
I compared the Nexus with a Milestone, HD2 and 3GS. And it shocked me... The HD2 is faster at most benchmarks!
Is that because of the SDK with OpenGL ES 2.0 isn't used yet?
Hoping this could be improved, because I left Winmo because of this.

I don't believe this benchmark.

Okay, you're comparing several different platforms here. The HD2 and the Nexus One have the exact same GPU.
More accurate: this particular benchmark is faster on its Windows Mobile port than on its Android port.

scoring 100% in a benchmark can not be right?

frleus said:
scoring 100% in a benchmark can not be right?
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Generally speaking in these types of benchmarks, the benchmark is set by the highest-scoring device. 100% would be the king for that specific test.

You would be correct, Android 2.1 as it is on our phones doesn't have all of the graphics boosters. To bo honest, it isn't that surprising IMHO, since these benchmarks are hugely influenced by the software itself, otherwise ROM cooking wouldn't do anything for increasing these #'s.
Maybe you could re-run this with a Cyan ROM, which has lots of those little things added in, such as the Arm Neon graphics inhancing(or whatever the heck its exact name is).
Also, keep in mind, that there are more important factors than "benchmarks".

pjcforpres said:
You would be correct, Android 2.1 as it is on our phones doesn't have all of the graphics boosters. To bo honest, it isn't that surprising IMHO, since these benchmarks are hugely influenced by the software itself, otherwise ROM cooking wouldn't do anything for increasing these #'s.
Maybe you could re-run this with a Cyan ROM, which has lots of those little things added in, such as the Arm Neon graphics inhancing(or whatever the heck its exact name is).
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I agree, with this, but adding one more thing instead of just testing different phones, test these benchmarks on cyan and emnother. With the nexus our graphics performance is aided by software so hardware isnt going to be the kicker between the hd2 and the nexus.

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Web based benchmarks are as fail as the DPI on the HD2.

TheDudeOfLife said:
Web based benchmarks are as fail as the DPI on the HD2.
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In your experience which would be a good benchmark besides Linpack?

jlevy73 said:
In your experience which would be a good benchmark besides Linpack?
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Water submersion test.

TheDudeOfLife said:
Water submersion test.
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+ Drop Height.

uberingram said:
+ Drop Height.
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Submersion test + drop height = the angle of the dangle

I agree that static benchmarks aren't anything, but the Nexus should be at least able to score comparable to the HD2, right? Hardware is the same, it's just the software that differs... alot.

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I agree that static benchmarks aren't anything, but the Nexus should be at least able to score comparable to the HD2, right? Hardware is the same, it's just the software that differs... alot.
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ah the quest for improving graphics on msm7k errr i mean snapdragon processors begin. Nice to see you've jumped to Android neoS2007
i think theres heaps of room for n1 to improve and count me if you decide on creating a group for improving graphics on the n1

babijoee said:
ah the quest for improving graphics on msm7k errr i mean snapdragon processors begin. Nice to see you've jumped to Android neoS2007
i think theres heaps of room for n1 to improve and count me if you decide on creating a group for improving graphics on the n1
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Good to see you here too babijoee. I'm trying to get someone on the MSM bandwagon to coordinate it, but Snapdragon is just so much more interesting... Anyways, goodtimes.
Anyways, I'm not setting up a group until i'm fairly certain the N1 CAN get better. I want to compare the N1 with the Desire and then again when OGLES 2.0 is fully implemented.

Nothing official but defiantly interesting:
http://www.androidspin.com/2010/04/21/google-getting-ready-to-dish-out-some-froyo/
I'm sure if everything mentioned here would defiantly give the n1 a substantial performance increase

Definitely worth waiting for. I'll see if I can track improvements in the graphics area of the N1 once Froyo is out.

NeoS2007 said:
Good to see you here too babijoee. I'm trying to get someone on the MSM bandwagon to coordinate it, but Snapdragon is just so much more interesting... Anyways, goodtimes.
Anyways, I'm not setting up a group until i'm fairly certain the N1 CAN get better. I want to compare the N1 with the Desire and then again when OGLES 2.0 is fully implemented.
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I just ran it on my Desire. The upload failed so i dont have exact figures to prove anything, but it looks much the same as the N1 listed on their site. Most things are within 5%. My HD2 running a dutty custom ROM and Chainfires driver hack is a bit faster.

Raging Thunder 2 run extremly fast on N1, faster than moto chaser on ipod touch 2g. Anyway mobile benchmarks are always bulls**t

Challenge anyone!

Let's have some fun SHIFTERS! After months of headaches, tweaking, finding the right rom, the right kernel, I finally got my SHIFTY optimized!
I'll put my SHIFT up against any other SHIFT out there! Post a screenshot of your best benchmark, I dare u! WHAT!!!! Let's gooooooooo, keep it civil and be HONEST playas!!!

This has already been done. Lets see you get 4200+ in Antutu, ****in noob.
Also get me a hotel room in Hawaii or I'll have you banned.
jkjkjkjkjk

Let's do it again WTF!!! I wanna show off! Ill get u a room alright @ the volcano inn its paradise! LOL
Let Me Put My Shift In U

Hey, I'm sure some other noobs out there wouldn't mine playin' along old timer!!! LOL
Let Me Put My Shift In U

Ironically enough, since I got my newest replacement, I haven't ran a single linpack, antutu (which is biased because it brings the sdcard into play), or quadrant... 6 months ago it mattered to me... lmao! :beer:
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We need more noobs in here! I'm surrounded by old time, first generation shifters, LOL
Let Me Put My Shift In U

Kinda like drob said, benchmarks really don't mean much to me, it doesn't really translate to real world performance... But I'll play along
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Please post Antutu and linpack scores. NOT Quadrant.

VICODAN said:
Please post Antutu and linpack scores. NOT Quadrant.
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Oh, sorry I didn't realize there were rules to this challenge. Honestly, I don't care about any of them as they mean absolutely nothing. I was just amusing the OP with a random benchmark. As you should know Antutu also scores on SD speed, which can cause lopsided scores and has very little to do with the day to day performance of my phone.

I know u old timers don't care, its just for fun for us noobs!!!
Let Me Put My Shift In U

I'm an overclocker at heart but for the phones....it doesn't really matter once it runs smooth. But I still do test out my benchmarks at times to see what each rom produces.

crump84 said:
Oh, sorry I didn't realize there were rules to this challenge. Honestly, I don't care about any of them as they mean absolutely nothing. I was just amusing the OP with a random benchmark. As you should know Antutu also scores on SD speed, which can cause lopsided scores and has very little to do with the day to day performance of my phone.
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letmeputdatipin said:
I know u old timers don't care, its just for fun for us noobs!!!
Let Me Put My Shift In U
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I'm an overclocker at heart but for the phones....it doesn't really matter once it runs smooth. But I still do test out my benchmarks at times to see what each rom produces.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1296614
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beat this score and tell us how you did it:

This is why benchmarks mean absolutely nothing unless your a noob. http://www.droidxforums.com/forum/droid-x-hacks/25510-quadrant-benchmark-score-improvement.html
I'll find some more links in time
Benchmarks can also be manipulated I'll find some links to those to. And you know the higher scores you get the more the battery is going to drain...

You're lucky I dont have either of my first two shifts... Those things had boss cpu's... Ill flash an aosp rom and post... And antutu is biased bro, no matter which way you look at it, it is biased... Post linpacks and quadrant standard as they measure the phones performance and not the sd card...
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Read this info on setcpu...the higher frequency you cpu is running at the more your battery is going to drain. And when you think about it it's really hard on your phone to run at those higher frequencies, both on the cpu and the battery. So if you want to drain/overheat your battery look for the best benchmark in rom/kernel. It will be faster than crap but again it's a toss-up. If you want battery to last run a rom/kernel that will get lower benchmarkmark scores but still runs smooth. A lot of things play into benchmarks, performance and battery not just the kernel, but the rom and device as well. Just do some research you'll see what I mean.
http://www.setcpu.com/

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What kernel and what ROM?

drob311 said:
You're lucky I dont have either of my first two shifts... Those things had boss cpu's... Ill flash an aosp rom and post... And antutu is biased bro, no matter which way you look at it, it is biased... Post linpacks and quadrant standard as they measure the phones performance and not the sd card...
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Here's setcpu

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What kernel and what ROM?
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MIUI 2.1.20 with the kernel that it came with (thinking Tiamat).

Ive tried everything i can think of but i still cant get past 3822 benchmark so theres no need for me to post a pic.

Damn! HTC One benchmark

http://www.slashgear.com/htc-one-benchmarks-off-the-charts-19270000/
Wow!

This score really tempting me to make an upgrade with my phone, the only one missing is the water an dust proof.
Warm regards from Indonesia in my Motorola Galaxy s3

more
http://blog.gsmarena.com/htc-one-benchmark-scores-are-here-ready-to-blow-your-mind/
what does Benchmark Pi test, thats the one that shows huge difference between the S4pro on XZ, Rest are barely anything for me personally. I think some had held back by chrome on the XZ.

all these benchmarks are looking incredible

i cant freaking wait till source is out for the kernel

OVER 9000!
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Way over! Damn!

Htc one got 12000+
SKYDRAGON, El M1

Things I am more interested about --
1] Geekbench
2] GLbenchmark
3] Kraken, Octane, Peacekeeper
I thought people stopped using Quadrant long back. Apparently I was very wrong

Zarboz said:
i cant freaking wait till source is out for the kernel
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Hey Zarboz you planning on getting one of these?
btw I usually would put more emphasis on touch responsiveness and UI smoothness/consistent framerate as compared to benchmark scores However benchmark scores of this phone do show that it is in a whole other class compared to any other phone out right now... but I guess it is the first of the next generation, just like the One X was
We'll have to see what the rest are like, especially the GS4

For sure sg4 will be plastic as usually, with a bunch of stuff like multi windows, s vocie and so on that i turn off, just to save battery. Really, samy does it cheaper... Also twz is ugly and boring.
Or wait to X Moto phone
SkyDragon Team© No Kangy rom allowed.

Maximum can get quadrant benchmark on my s3 just around 8k
Htc one too powerful, big thanks to s600 new processor always better than old processor lol
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Those are really high numbers. I'm assuming some sort of custom rom, and /or over clocked? The M7 is running pre released stock sense, I wonder what an over clocked kernel running custom or AOSP would give!
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3D benchmarks.....all these get boring when the GPUs power is not fully shown for a game freak like me.....those front speakers with gaming:what::what::what: can't wait.
Gamers leegoooo
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I don't get the point in benchmarks really, what does a number really tell you? =/
One phone gets say 14,000, One gets 8,000... what does that actually translate to though? =/

XeactorZ said:
Maximum can get quadrant benchmark on my s3 just around 8k
Htc one too powerful, big thanks to s600 new processor always better than old processor lol
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And some people on YouTube's comment section say its 'just a little better that S3' LOL!

strip419 said:
3D benchmarks.....all these get boring when the GPUs power is not fully shown for a game freak like me.....those front speakers with gaming:what::what::what: can't wait.
Gamers leegoooo
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yes the most important of all is Glbenchmark

kalo88 said:
I don't get the point in benchmarks really, what does a number really tell you? =/
One phone gets say 14,000, One gets 8,000... what does that actually translate to though? =/
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Use phone x, y and z and observe the performance.
My experiences in Quadrant... Transform SDXed out: 500+, Evo Shift OCd 1500ish, EVO3d OCd 3900
Each phone was that much faster for games and real world use, mostly.
The outlier was the Transform, butter smooth on the UI. Better than the EVO3d on the homescreen stock. But totally crap for most anything games.

Yeah... I'm about to jump ship and come back to HTC.
Sorry Sammy
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kalo88 said:
I don't get the point in benchmarks really, what does a number really tell you? =/
One phone gets say 14,000, One gets 8,000... what does that actually translate to though? =/
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Put it like this. Car A can travel at a maximum speed of 100km/h while car B can travel 150km/h
the numbers are the benchmarks. Car B is faster so car A wins.
The reason why they say benchmarks are useless because let's put Car B to real life use.
Car B has 150km/h speed but would you use it in driving the streets? If yes then good luck on the speed limit cameras.

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Put it like this. Car A can travel at a maximum speed of 100km/h while car B can travel 150km/h
the numbers are the benchmarks. Car B is faster so car A wins.
The reason why they say benchmarks are useless because let's put Car B to real life use.
Car B has 150km/h speed but would you use it in driving the streets? If yes then good luck on the speed limit cameras.
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Well... yes... but there can sometimes be an indirect effect on things like battery life. If a chipset is capable of doing more processing for the same amount of power, that likely means it can do the same amount of processing with less power, which means the battery will last longer.
Also, once apps start to become more demanding in the future - more complex 3D games that come out in a year or so - the phones that are faster in the benchmarks now will be able to play newer games for longer before hitting frame-rates that are too low to be enjoyable.
Think of it as car B having a more powerful engine, which lets it go up steeper hills while carrying the same load.

HTC One & Galaxy S IV (Exynos) - 3D Mark

HTC One & S4 3D Mark.
Benchmarks done by DiP7 All credit and thanks to him for running them and sharing the benchmarks with us.
Link to his original post: http://www.max-up.ru/news-apple/3dmark-sgs4-exynos-vs-htc-one.html
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Funny

So to summarise:
HTC One Ice Storm: 11309
S4 Storm: 9552
HTC One Ice Storm: 6190
S4 Storm Extreme: 6127
A small victory, but seems to be a lot of leeway between these results, just ran this on my own One and got 10029 and 6626 results respectively, so alot lower then alot higher.

whatever it is this means the 554MP3 is not running at 533mhz due to power / thermals
please also means its not what is hyped to be and Adreno 320 is not to be taken lightly

Would love to see the test run again once the One is updated to 4.2.2 - these results have nowhere to go but up.

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Would love to see the test run again once the One is updated to 4.2.2 - these results have nowhere to go but up.
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Agreed, I'm sure it will get a nice performance bump from that.

I´m so looking forward to the 4.2.2 update. Not cause of the Android Version, but the drivers. Its fast at the moment, but it should be even faster with them.

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I´m so looking forward to the 4.2.2 update. Not cause of the Android Version, but the drivers. Its fast at the moment, but it should be even faster with them.
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I expect the benchmarks to improve with 4.2 by a decent amount, maybe we'll see around 41 fps Egypt offscreen.

As usual, 3DMarks of any kind cannot be a standard test of anything of value.
I've got these scores from my Nexus 4 running stock 4.2.2. (Left is default and right is extreme)

Benchmarks like this are totally pointless for measuring performance. They might be fun, but they are so variable (even on the same device) that they are useless. They also have biases towards certain GPUs that do no reflect real world gaming.
All this test proves is that with current software 3Dmark for android runs better on the Adreno in the One than on the PowerVR in the S4, nothing else whatsoever. Since its not a game, who cares?

3DMark is really wierd. I ran it yestarday several times and the score varied from 9900 to 10800. The highest score I got was just after the restart of the device. 10800 in IceStorm and 6690 in Extreme. Still... it looks like the "The One" is on par with SIV when it comes to performance. Now its up HTC to make the software better. I mean its still far better than Samsung when it comes to bug count and stability but the camera, Zoe, Blinkfeed functionality should be extended. Come on HTC. You can do it...

-]Megacharge[- said:
HTC One & S4 3D Mark.
Benchmarks done by DiP7 All credit and thanks to him for running them and sharing the benchmarks with us.
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Were exactly did you get an S4 octa and an HTC one to perform these test. These are the two rarest phones on the planet especially the S4 octa. Won't consider this final since the S4 octa is still in production. <<<<<you can Google that
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we see both of devices arent ready to give noteworthy full hd game performance with these gpu..i think we will have to wait better gpu.

strip419 said:
Were exactly did you get an S4 octa and an HTC one to perform these test. These are the two rarest phones on the planet especially the S4 octa. Won't consider this final since the S4 octa is still in production
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HTC One & S4 3D Mark.
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RCFTW.
A reviewer from a Russian reviewer site who is also a member of our forums here. You shouldn't consider it final, the HTC One's performance will increase, once it's running 4.2.

strip419 said:
Were exactly did you get an S4 octa and an HTC one to perform these test. These are the two rarest phones on the planet especially the S4 octa. Won't consider this final since the S4 octa is still in production. <<<<<you can Google that
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Ummm.... Not a surprise at all. A lot of people have the ONE....just go look at the Development section.
As for the S4 Exynos Octa....wouldn't shock me at all that someone has it in their hands.

-]Megacharge[- said:
RCFTW.
A reviewer from a Russian reviewer site who is also a member of our forums here. You shouldn't consider it final, the HTC One's performance will increase, once it's running 4.2.
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Dude we have seen phone performance decrease after SW updates.
Stop making it look as if it is guaranteed
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strip419 said:
Dude we have seen phone performance decrease after SW updates.
Stop making it look as if it is guaranteed
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lol Stop trolling, kid.

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lol Stop trolling, kid.
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+1 you really think they'd release an update that slows things down? Lol... You know cuz sometimes after I get a tune up on my car it gets bogged down
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lopri said:
As usual, 3DMarks of any kind cannot be a standard test of anything of value.
I've got these scores from my Nexus 4 running stock 4.2.2. (Left is default and right is extreme)
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It scores higher because the screen resolution is lower and 3DMark renders onscreen.
It's still an awesome phone though.

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I'm just curious if anyone has performed benchmarks recently? I never bothered, but was curious if my phone had slowed down at all in the 15 months I've used it without any wipes. It feels just as fast to me but sometimes things can slowly degrade and not be noticeable to us.
Anyways my benchmark scores basically all came out much higher than the scores reported for the OnePlus 5 when it was new. So I'm assuming maybe updates have done something to improve that? My phone is 100% stock and never even rooted.
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350Rocket said:
I'm just curious if anyone has performed benchmarks recently? I never bothered, but was curious if my phone had slowed down at all in the 15 months I've used it without any wipes. It feels just as fast to me but sometimes things can slowly degrade and not be noticeable to us.
Anyways my benchmark scores basically all came out much higher than the scores reported for the OnePlus 5 when it was new. So I'm assuming maybe updates have done something to improve that? My phone is 100% stock and never even rooted.
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Benchmarks aren't representative cause manufacturers can cheat like op did. If your real life performance decreases, a wipe of caches can be help in the first time otherwise a factory reset.

As I said I haven't noticed a performance drop but that doesn't mean that I wouldn't notice a big improvement if I wiped everything tomorrow and started fresh (which I don't want to because obviously it's a big hassle. Also I'm not sure that I am on the "OnePlus cheated" bandwagon if the device was running maxed out for games also (not just bench marks) than I can't personally see how it's cheating. But lots of people will disagree on that.
What I'm trying to see is if other phones are also scoring over 200k on AnTuTu on the latest software because that would make it seem like my phone is in line with others. If they're getting 220k on a fresh install than maybe my phone could benefit from a full wipe. Does that not at least make some sense?
I never ran a benchmark on it before but I'm getting 203k now and when it first came out others were getting 170k according to my Google search.

350Rocket said:
As I said I haven't noticed a performance drop but that doesn't mean that I wouldn't notice a big improvement if I wiped everything tomorrow and started fresh (which I don't want to because obviously it's a big hassle. Also I'm not sure that I am on the "OnePlus cheated" bandwagon if the device was running maxed out for games also (not just bench marks) than I can't personally see how it's cheating. But lots of people will disagree on that.
What I'm trying to see is if other phones are also scoring over 200k on AnTuTu on the latest software because that would make it seem like my phone is in line with others. If they're getting 220k on a fresh install than maybe my phone could benefit from a full wipe. Does that not at least make some sense?
I never ran a benchmark on it before but I'm getting 203k now and when it first came out others were getting 170k according to my Google search.
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What rom and version you're running exactly?

strongst said:
What rom and version you're running exactly?
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Bone stock. Out of the box. This phone cured my need to root and ROM. I still have a custom ROM on my HTC one m8 and flashed a different one today but that's just because it had a problem I was trying to fix, just like half the custom ROMs I ever ran.
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350Rocket said:
Bone stock. Out of the box. This phone cured my need to root and ROM. I still have a custom ROM on my HTC one m8 and flashed a different one today but that's just because it had a problem I was trying to fix, just like half the custom ROMs I ever ran.
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I have a op5 open beta 21, 6/64GB and get 205637

strongst said:
I have a op5 6/64GB and get 205637
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So yours scored almost the same just slightly higher than mine did. Can you tell me what you're running and how long since it was installed? I'm guessing now they're going to be pretty close together and probably all getting higher scores than when new for whatever reason but I'm still curious.
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350Rocket said:
So yours scored almost the same just slightly higher than mine did. Can you tell me what you're running and how long since it was installed? I'm guessing now they're going to be pretty close together and probably all getting higher scores than when new for whatever reason but I'm still curious.
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It's running oos open beta 21 dirty flashed from open beta 19(clean flashed) all with stock kernel.