All About KNOX (discussions,questions,new information etc.) - Galaxy Note II General

from mj2 rom release (leak,pre official) there is knox integrated in system and shows one counter in download mode like Official bit = 0
so i made this thread for our beloved note 2 's newer firmwares knox issues and informations.
you can also contribute to help people of note 2 community worldwide and solving this issue.
hope i can update this thread as soon as i can.
and all the info for knox for now can be found in below sites.
Wiki knox
Reasearch thread from s4 forum
Samsung.com
all about knox from samsung
samsungknox.com
and i know theres knox research thread for s4 but i think its reasonable to have for note 2 too bcoz its very diff device and here local help can be available other then asking on s4's thread.

As far as I know there is a specific chip on the motherboard where knox increments the flashing.
1st of all since this is a "feature" that came with the note 3, I think we are kind of safe since that specific cip was not integrated on the mb. I'm not sure that even the s4 has one.
Non the less the counter some how could be emulated in the bootloader and thus tricking us in thinking that knox is emplemented.
Some more experienced people sooner or later will figure it up.
My advice is that if you still have warranty think twice before flashing.
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Pezmet said:
As far as I know there is a specific chip on the motherboard where knox increments the flashing.
1st of all since this is a "feature" that came with the note 3, I think we are kind of safe since that specific cip was not integrated on the mb. I'm not sure that even the s4 has one.
Non the less the counter some how could be emulated in the bootloader and thus tricking us in thinking that knox is emplemented.
Some more experienced people sooner or later will figure it up.
My advice is that if you still have warranty think twice before flashing.
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u are right to wait.
but knox is integrated in all kernels, framework and bootloaders. so it may rise a flag as in s4 and note 3 roots,downgrading and etc.
they have this since one exact month and theres no way they can reset it and they got warranty voided.
and s4 doesnt have this kind of efuse chip on mb but still they have all flags i think.

Are you sure that our note2 has an efused inside?
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I am almost sure that it does not
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Javi55 said:
Are you sure that our note2 has an efused inside?
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i didnt say efuse is there neither have s4 as he said.

Pezmet said:
I am almost sure that it does not
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Me too mate.
Ragards from Spain!

I don't have any problems with KNOX. I mean almost.
I have done more than 3 factory resets since i'm using 4.3
The only problem i have with KNOX (i like it) is that after i install it
my Note start to tell me after update on some basic apps
"External StorageSpace left 1.55 MB".
Without KNOX i don't have this massage.

gencho81 said:
I don't have any problems with KNOX. I mean almost.
I have done more than 3 factory resets since i'm using 4.3
The only problem i have with KNOX (i like it) is that after i install it
my Note start to tell me after update on some basic apps
"External StorageSpace left 1.55 MB".
Without KNOX i don't have this massage.
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The current firmware mi6 doesn't have knox integrated, it is just an app but in the new pre official leak mj2 has knox integrated into the bootloader.. Which is hard to bypass as the firmware won't boot with any older bootloader thus there will be knox counter raise on flashing custom recovery or rooting the device.. I haven't still got into details myself but there should be a way of downgrading to older boot and firmware for claiming warranty.. And I guess the s4 community will probably get some work around as they are in deeper problems with official 4.3 has realese for them. It's just a matter of waiting and watching now.
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Custm rom & easy root it let us to choose Samsung device after knox ma b change our lovely brand to another , coz Samsung follow htc steps .
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Just curious if flashing the new MJ2 or the future official ROM from Samsung will reset my already raised counter?

phochiom said:
Just curious if flashing the new MJ2 or the future official ROM from Samsung will reset my already raised counter?
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Use triangle away or a jig to reset counter before you flash the new bootloader
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the new release MJ2 contains TEE (trusted execution environmen) by MobiCore !! in the ( tz.bin ) in BL provided here http://d-h.st/Bhz .
more info here :
http://www.sensepost.com/blog/9114.html
source code here :
https://code.google.com/p/tee-mobicore-driver/
i hope this may help DEV's/Modders to crack this ..

sumeshd said:
Use triangle away or a jig to reset counter before you flash the new bootloader
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Is the jig working on Note 2 ? Didn't know. I use to reset my S2 with it. Thanks

hey guys, are there any limitations in flashing after updating to FW containing Knox? I mean, i don't care if it sets knox flag to 1, i already don't have any warranty. I'm just asking because people everywhere are speaking only about warranty when it comes to Knox. But are there any other restrictions like missing possibility of downgrade, or unability of flashing custom ROMs?
Thanks.

From what I'm reading if you downgrade you can't then upgrade ever again to an official 4.3
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Wow that's pretty scary... Damn Samsung :/
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KNOX Disabler - Easily disable KNOX notifications!
KNOX Disabler
Work on the note II 4.3 XXUEMI6 and XXUEMJ2 also http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2482306
Thanx to -viperboy-

sawdoctor said:
From what I'm reading if you downgrade you can't then upgrade ever again to an official 4.3
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Is this true? I mean... who in their right mind would go official after being on xda for any reasonable amount of time?... but the possibility that such a restriction could be enforced on our device is deeply troubling.

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[Question] Odin Counter + Rooting

Hi all,
should the odin custom binary counter go from 0 to 1 when the tab is simply rooted and no new ROM is flashed?
Thanks.
user7743 said:
Hi all,
should the odin custom binary counter go from 0 to 1 when the tab is simply rooted and no new ROM is flashed?
Thanks.
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If you are going to root the tab using CMW obviously it will increase the counter,not sure if you can root it any other way.
If you want to root your device thus far you need CWM which you flash through Odin. That will increase the counter for sure.
Mine reach 5 count already since flash the ROM
Thanks a lot - a day older and a little bit wiser now.
It may be obvious to some people that it would step the counter up but some of us are new to Samsung and have no idea how the Odin counter works or is triggered... Hence the question.
so is there a max amount of times you can flash t???? im a total noob to sammy thanks
No, there is no limit to the amount off flashing. Only the counter will go up.
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thank you
Does that void your warranty? I found a stuck pixel on my display and I'm rooted.
Yes, in the proces of rooting your warranty is already void. If the flash counter is above 0 your warranty is void. At the moment there is no know and tested way to get it to zero. But if you feel lucky, they maybe wont look at the counter.
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Did I miss the counter?Nahhh
Last time when there is no counter, you only need to unroot and flash back to stock rom but nowdays the counter goes up and samsung service centre can know that you have play with the ODIN. Mine up to 5 already. Hope there nothing problem with my Tab 2 10.1 when the time goes on.
Hazou said:
Yes, in the proces of rooting your warranty is already void. If the flash counter is above 0 your warranty is void. At the moment there is no know and tested way to get it to zero. But if you feel lucky, they maybe wont look at the counter.
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"Triangle Away" can reset the counter back to 0, but, only on certain devices. I know it works on the Samsung Galaxy S3, not sure about your Tab. Be careful, you could brick it if it doesn't work!
You might like this video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=9YcIHaajda8
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bark777 said:
You might like this video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=9YcIHaajda8
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Unfortunately, only US residents would like that video. I don't know of any other countries that push manufacturers to accept rooted/jailbroken devices.
Triangle away will surly put it to zero, in furture, cause its master cainfires work ;-)
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For that reason I didn't root my tab 2 because I'm waiting for a way of root without increase counter
nfribeiro said:
For that reason I didn't root my tab 2 because I'm waiting for a way of root without increase counter
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That's my problem, but I'm dying to ditch the TW and get on cm9
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Endoroid said:
That's my problem, but I'm dying to ditch the TW and get on cm9
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Get Mobile ODIN:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1759782
from that page:
"Flashing with Mobile ODIN does NOT increase your custom kernel flash counter or make the yellow warning triangle appear." - Chainfire
KindleGuy said:
Get Mobile ODIN:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1759782
from that page:
"Flashing with Mobile ODIN does NOT increase your custom kernel flash counter or make the yellow warning triangle appear." - Chainfire
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Except it needs root, and currently the root method for GT2 increases the counter
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googled up your thread
purposely signed in and located this thread here
and thanked you
good answer

Confusion regarding 4.3 Bootloaders on SG4

My S4 has the original firmware (MDL) and I have since installed a custom recovery (the loki method). I am now running GoldenEye 4.3, which is based off the Internation S4. I love it. I love what my phone can do. Anyway, I downloaded triangle away and it says the binary is official and the counter is 0. I did not see Samsung Knox Warranty 0x0 or 0x1 anywhere. Would I have this if I did the original OTA update to 4.3 from AT&T? I'm guessing its best never to upgrade and stay far away from the knox crap. So much for the Galaxy S5 then. ):
Why did Samsung ever have to implement the Knox 0x0 crap? If its so important to them voiding people's warranties, then why didn't they originally do it when the S4 launched?
As of right now, is my bootloader knox free, since I have a 4.3 rom on it? Would triangle away work if I ever needed to send it in?
Why is there a different root method or custom recovery for each firmware version on the i337?
MattMJB0188 said:
My S4 has the original firmware (MDL) and I have since installed a custom recovery (the loki method). I am now running GoldenEye 4.3, which is based off the Internation S4. I love it. I love what my phone can do. Anyway, I downloaded triangle away and it says the binary is official and the counter is 0. I did not see Samsung Knox Warranty 0x0 or 0x1 anywhere. Would I have this if I did the original OTA update to 4.3 from AT&T?
....With pushed OTA the Bootloader would add a Knox warranty flag to the download mode screen.
I'm guessing its best never to upgrade and stay far away from the knox crap. So much for the Galaxy S5 then. ):
Why did Samsung ever have to implement the Knox 0x0 crap?
....Military, Govt. & Corporate sales. The consumer warranty part is just gravy for them.
If its so important to them voiding people's warranties, then why didn't they originally do it when the S4 launched?
As of right now, is my bootloader knox free, since I have a 4.3 rom on it? Would triangle away work if I ever needed to send it in?
....Afaik no. Recent postings indicate it's not 4.3 compatible. Check your. ROM thread for Knox status.
Why is there a different root method or custom recovery for each firmware version on the i337?
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...Not the firmware as much as model specific differences force incompatability where it exists.
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pc103 said:
...Not the firmware as much as model specific differences force incompatability where it exists.
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So, not every S4 will have the knox counter?
MattMJB0188 said:
So, not every S4 will have the knox counter?
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For the record: Triangle Away is not compatible with any locked bootloader and I don't believe it resets KNOX yet anyways. I think that if you have loki exploit you can use it, but I'm not entirely sure. It's only for the flash counter anyways.
The reason root and recovery methods are different is because with each new firmware Samsung patches the old security flaws that let us have root and recovery in the first place. I don't know if that's at their discretion or at the carrier's request (the locked bootloaders are at carrier request and Samsung must update the security on them to protect their business interests).
Not every S4 gets the KNOX counter, only those with the bootloader from the 4.3 update.
DeadlySin9 said:
For the record: Triangle Away is not compatible with any locked bootloader and I don't believe it resets KNOX yet anyways. I think that if you have loki exploit you can use it, but I'm not entirely sure. It's only for the flash counter anyways.
The reason root and recovery methods are different is because with each new firmware Samsung patches the old security flaws that let us have root and recovery in the first place. I don't know if that's at their discretion or at the carrier's request (the locked bootloaders are at carrier request and Samsung must update the security on them to protect their business interests).
Not every S4 gets the KNOX counter, only those with the bootloader from the 4.3 update.
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So when the AT&T S4 received its official OTA update from AT&T, did it include knox?
MattMJB0188 said:
So when the AT&T S4 received its official OTA update from AT&T, did it include knox?
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It did. With the warranty bit newly added.
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pc103 said:
It did. With the warranty bit newly added.
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Wow. What a shame. It looks like they are doing everything to stop custom roms and root. After the loki method, it got really hard. Seems like more devices would be bricked now, than they would before.
I am wondering why they are cracking down so much now. The AT&T Galaxy S2 (i777) and S3 had unlocked bootloaders and huge development communities.
+1 now many are thinking of ditching their carriers & mfr in favor of costlier, but mod friendlier alternatives truer to Android's progressive core concept.
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pc103 said:
+1 now many are thinking of ditching their carriers & mfr in favor of costlier, but mod friendlier alternatives truer to Android's progressive core concept.
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Yeah, but its still never the same with another carrier's device. For example, I used the T-Mobile Note 3 on AT&T and the experience was not so great. Sure, I had custom recovery and root, but it had that knox warranty thing. It also struggled tremendously holding onto an LTE signal. The overall signal was poor.
Purchasing the international S4 comes with the trade off of loosing LTE. I am hoping with the S5, Samsung includes all major LTE bands with it, so those of us who want to modify our devices can get AT&T LTE.

[Q] How To Root My Galaxy Note 3?

I just got the Galaxy Note 3 & Gear bundle on contract today through TelecomNZ. My contract was up for a renewal & the Galaxy S5 didn't seem to have any real advantage of the Note 3 so alas I didn't bother to wait.
Now however I am at a standstill...I would really like to root my device as soon as possible. I don't want custom firmware & would like to keep the stock so if there are official updates I can get them. Can anyone assist me please with a step by step to rooting my Note 3 preferably without tripping the Knox counter that I have just recently only found out about thus voiding my warranty. I don't want to void the warranty but I would like root so I can use Titanium Backup so if anyone can please provide me with a step by step to safely rooting my device I will be so appreciative for it.
Here are some details about my phone...
Model Number: SM-N9005
Baseband: N9005XXUDMJ7
Build Number: JSS15J.N9005XXUDMJ7
FHL09 said:
I just got the Galaxy Note 3 & Gear bundle on contract today through TelecomNZ. My contract was up for a renewal & the Galaxy S5 didn't seem to have any real advantage of the Note 3 so alas I didn't bother to wait.
Now however I am at a standstill...I would really like to root my device as soon as possible. I don't want custom firmware & would like to keep the stock so if there are official updates I can get them. Can anyone assist me please with a step by step to rooting my Note 3 preferably without tripping the Knox counter that I have just recently only found out about thus voiding my warranty. I don't want to void the warranty but I would like root so I can use Titanium Backup so if anyone can please provide me with a step by step to safely rooting my device I will be so appreciative for it.
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FHL09 said:
Here are some details about my phone...
Model Number: SM-N9005
Baseband: N9005XXUDMJ7
Build Number: JSS15J.N9005XXUDMJ7
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without tripping KNOX for warranty ? no way Yours is the new bootloader for 4.3, therefore there are no rooting method which is KNOX friendly so far.
antique_sonic said:
without tripping KNOX for warranty ? no way Yours is the new bootloader for 4.3, therefore there are no rooting method which is KNOX friendly so far.
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Okay in that case if I use CF-Root thus voiding my warranty will I risk losing anything else. I had an S3 for 2 years and sheer stupidity resulted in a cracked screen however that was the only time I had to use my warranty so essentially warranty shouldn't concern me but I don't want to trip this Knox counter and lose key features just for root which is all I really want. I don't plan on custom firmware flashing or anything so my OTA should still work via KIES right?
Just crossing the T's and dotting the I's before I possibly ruin a good thing.
Before you root make some checks. If your hardware is OK. Download from market multitouch app to see if your screen passes the 10 fingers test. It's really important. Then stress a bit your phone hardware wise and see if everything runs fine and no defects show up. If everything is OK then trip knox and be happy.
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testadeferro said:
Before you root make some checks. If your hardware is OK. Download from market multitouch app to see if your screen passes the 10 fingers test. It's really important. Then stress a bit your phone hardware wise and see if everything runs fine and no defects show up. If everything is OK then trip knox and be happy.
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FHL09 said:
Okay in that case if I use CF-Root thus voiding my warranty will I risk losing anything else. I had an S3 for 2 years and sheer stupidity resulted in a cracked screen however that was the only time I had to use my warranty so essentially warranty shouldn't concern me but I don't want to trip this Knox counter and lose key features just for root which is all I really want. I don't plan on custom firmware flashing or anything so my OTA should still work via KIES right?
Just crossing the T's and dotting the I's before I possibly ruin a good thing.
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as said by testadeferro,
make a check on your device first for the multitouch (which some note 3 users experience this on their device). So if you need to claim warranty, you are still elligible before you trip the KNOX.
I don't know about KIES, because since my S2, S3, Note1, Note2, and till now Note3, I never use KIES to upgrade my firmware. I like to use ODIN more. And yes, though u root your device, you are still able to flash back firmware (newer version) through ODIN.
cheers.
FHL09 said:
Here are some details about my phone...
Model Number: SM-N9005
Baseband: N9005XXUDMJ7
Build Number: JSS15J.N9005XXUDMJ7
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I have n9005 and I rooted using cf root yesterday
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antique_sonic said:
as said by testadeferro,
make a check on your device first for the multitouch (which some note 3 users experience this on their device). So if you need to claim warranty, you are still elligible before you trip the KNOX.
I don't know about KIES, because since my S2, S3, Note1, Note2, and till now Note3, I never use KIES to upgrade my firmware. I like to use ODIN more. And yes, though u root your device, you are still able to flash back firmware (newer version) through ODIN.
cheers.
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testadeferro said:
Before you root make some checks. If your hardware is OK. Download from market multitouch app to see if your screen passes the 10 fingers test. It's really important. Then stress a bit your phone hardware wise and see if everything runs fine and no defects show up. If everything is OK then trip knox and be happy.
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So basically if the app recognizes 10 fingers on the screen at once it's fine correct? I managed to get 10 fingers recognized easily so essentially I'm okay to root or should I be doing something else first?
Oh and can I just quickly add I love XDA. Thanks for the support guys. I took the time to click the thanks button for you all its not much but I do appreciate the guidance.
Lol, and since when does this multi touch have anything to do with rooting ? Just root the damn thing.
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Dejan Sathanas said:
Lol, and since when does this multi touch have anything to do with rooting ? Just root the damn thing.
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Read carefully please. The multitouch has nothing to do with root. The point is that some screens have issues. And before you loose warranty by rooting you should check it. Duh!
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Thanks!
Okay I have taken the jump & I am now rooted, thanks for the guidance! I have also updated my signature
Dejan Sathanas said:
Lol, and since when does this multi touch have anything to do with rooting ? Just root the damn thing.
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Yeah... long live root!
Damn sammy all their note device always got h/w problem.
Emmc brick bugs, sds, and now multitouch. Hahaha
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I have some question about Knox

Hi
I have bought me a new samsung s5 and I really want to flash a different rom and kernel but now I wonder if someone can tell me if the warranty is gone if I do that (if I understood it right it would trigger the knox)?,is there any way to reset the knox thing?
best regards
Peter
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shysstkille said:
Hi
I have bought me a new samsung s5 and I really want to flash a different rom and kernel but now I wonder if someone can tell me if the warranty is gone if I do that (if I understood it right it would trigger the knox)?,is there any way to reset the knox thing?
best regards
Peter
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Look here http://omegadroid.co/wanted-knox-void-warranty-0x1/ for instance and KNOX cannot be reset atm. You can root with Towelroot without tripipng KNOX but flashing a kernel or custom recovery will set KNOX on 0x1. Yes, tripping KNOX will void warranty in some regions depending on local laws. In the EU it doesn`t unless the oem can prove that rooting was the cause of the defect.
shysstkille said:
I really want to flash a different rom and kernel but now I wonder if someone can tell me if the warranty is gone if I do that (if I understood it right it would trigger the knox)?,is there any way to reset the knox thing?
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Knox doesn't matter to most people. Samsung will, particularly in North America disavow a warranty if Knox is tripped. But most people don't deal with Samsung for warranty issues. They deal with their carrier and most carriers don't care about Knox.And stronger consumer protection legislation in the EU means that your warranty rights cannot be summarily dismissed. You signature suggests that you may be in the EU in which case it isn't likely an issue for you. Do a forum search to see how your carrier, which you neglected to name, handles warranty claims.
A forum search would have given you better answers to all of your questions. You would find threads demonstrating that Knox can be reset. But it has only been demonstrated in limited and experimental conditions so far. It's not yet clear how widely that could be applied and isn't likely to be easily accessible to you anytime soon. A custom recovery, custom kernel or some older root methods will trip Knox.
If you are unwilling to trip Knox, then use towel root which shouldn't increment Knox and Safestrap to run your ROM. It's a lot more cumbersome and limits your choices. But you pick your poison and drink it.
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fffft said:
Knox doesn't matter to most people. Samsung will, particularly in North America disavow a warranty if Knox is tripped. But most people don't deal with Samsung for warranty issues. They deal with their carrier and most carriers don't care about Knox.And stronger consumer protection legislation in the EU means that your warranty rights cannot be summarily dismissed. You signature suggests that you may be in the EU in which case it isn't likely an issue for you. Do a forum search to see how your carrier, which you neglected to name, handles warranty claims.
A forum search would have given you better answers to all of your questions. You would find threads demonstrating that Knox can be reset. But it has only been demonstrated in limited and experimental conditions so far. It's not yet clear how widely that could be applied and isn't likely to be easily accessible to you anytime soon. A custom recovery, custom kernel or some older root methods will trip Knox.
If you are unwilling to trip Knox, then use towel root which shouldn't increment Knox and Safestrap to run your ROM. It's a lot more cumbersome and limits your choices. But you pick your poison and drink it.
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thanks all for your answer,For the moment I have towelroot in my phone but is there any difference between towelroot and a "normal"root?,I mean is it more limits when I use towelroot?,on my samsung s4 I have a "normal" root.
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shysstkille said:
is there any difference between towelroot and a "normal"root?,I mean is it more limits when I use towelroot?,on my samsung s4 I have a "normal" root.
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No, root is root. Towel root is just a nickname to the latest way to obtain root.
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fffft said:
No, root is root. Towel root is just a nickname to the latest way to obtain root.
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åh,Nice,thanks a lot mate
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How do I check the Knox counter?.... :/
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Toxicoblivion said:
How do I check the Knox counter?
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A forum search would have told you this.. look on the download mode page, in the system properties or install an app like Phone Info.
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shysstkille said:
thanks all for your answer,For the moment I have towelroot in my phone but is there any difference between towelroot and a "normal"root?,I mean is it more limits when I use towelroot?,on my samsung s4 I have a "normal" root.
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Towelroot uses an exploit so it won't trip your KNOX counter.
Using regular root on the GS5 trips KNOX.
But as stated above, flashing a custom recovery, kernel or ROM will trip KNOX regardless.
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Toxicoblivion said:
How do I check the Knox counter?.... :/
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You can either use download mode like the guy who replied to you or download an app off playstore called Phone Info.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.vndnguyen.phoneinfo&hl=en

[Q] Galaxy S5 SM-G900F,trip knox or not?

Hello everyone. I bought a Galaxy S5 SM-G900F 3 Months ago,and till then I kept it stock. I am undecided if to root/cwm and start modding it,or keep it stock till Android 5.0 From Samsung. The thing that stops me from doing that is the damned warranty that decays with Knox -.-" Till now the phone hasn't got any problems,nor I had to contact the customer care for issues. My question is,would it be worth to trip knox for modding it? And if the phone has any issue,can I avail myself of the European law on Android Phones? Sorry If this may be noob questions,but I'd really want to start mod my S5,and the only thing which stops me is Knox..
Wolf80 said:
Hello everyone. I bought a Galaxy S5 SM-G900F 3 Months ago,and till then I kept it stock. I am undecided if to root/cwm and start modding it,or keep it stock till Android 5.0 From Samsung. The thing that stops me from doing that is the damned warranty that decays with Knox -.-" Till now the phone hasn't got any problems,nor I had to contact the customer care for issues. My question is,would it be worth to trip knox for modding it? And if the phone has any issue,can I avail myself of the European law on Android Phones? Sorry If this may be noob questions,but I'd really want to start mod my S5,and the only thing which stops me is Knox..
Check this out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=54719865
Then if you need more info on options try
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=51949790
As for its it worth it to trip Knox, if you can avoid it great, it's your choice in the end but to me... I will never own a stock phone as long as XDA exists.. Just my opinion.
SM-G900W8, 0x1
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I knew of this,but it's only for root. I would install TWRP or CWM, and the CM12 Alpha..so knox gets tripped anyway no?
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Wolf80 said:
I knew of this,but it's only for root. I would install TWRP or CWM, and the CM12 Alpha..so knox gets tripped anyway no?
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Yes, as soon as you install recovery, you trip Knox.
I don't think you can install CM12 without a recovery so yup, a choice has to be made.
I also have insurance on my phone so I think it is worth the risk for the enjoyment I get from fooling it.
SM-G900W8, 0x1
ragz said:
Yes, as soon as you install recovery, you trip Knox.
I don't think you can install CM12 without a recovery so yup, a choice has to be made.
I also have insurance on my phone so I think it is worth the risk for the enjoyment I get from fooling it.
SM-G900W8, 0x1
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You think that it Will be worth to trip knox? I came from an S3 which was full modded lol
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Wolf80 said:
You think that it Will be worth to trip knox? I came from an S3 which was full modded lol
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I tripped mine 3 hours after I bought it, this is my 4th phone and all have been modded so I guess my opinion is obvious.
SM-G900W8, 0x1
Wolf80 said:
You think that it Will be worth to trip knox? I came from an S3 which was full modded lol
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It is worth it, I tripped my know the same day of purchase, to me warranty isn't an issue.
ila420 said:
It is worth it, I tripped my know the same day of purchase, to me warranty isn't an issue.
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Well,I kept mine stock with knox unaltered cause the first months there could be problems. I am 4th month now and no problems still....what will I lose apart the warranty? I read that fingerprinter scanner could not work anymore,right?
Wolf80 said:
Well,I kept mine stock with knox unaltered cause the first months there could be problems. I am 4th month now and no problems still....what will I lose apart the warranty? I read that fingerprinter scanner could not work anymore,right?
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Fingerprint scanner still works on tw roms after knox 0x1.
Edit: just enabled Fingerprint scanner and it is working perfect.
SM-G900W8, 0x1
Just an FYI, no fingerprint scanner, and no heartbeat sensor, and no tw camera on any aosp or cm based ROM. If you'll miss those don't even bother tripping Knox.
No one reads, searches anymore.
This klte forums are like a kindergarten. Nobody knows nothing and want stuff handed to them.

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