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All About KNOX (discussions,questions,new information etc.)

from mj2 rom release (leak,pre official) there is knox integrated in system and shows one counter in download mode like Official bit = 0
so i made this thread for our beloved note 2 's newer firmwares knox issues and informations.
you can also contribute to help people of note 2 community worldwide and solving this issue.
hope i can update this thread as soon as i can.
and all the info for knox for now can be found in below sites.
Wiki knox
Reasearch thread from s4 forum
Samsung.com
all about knox from samsung
samsungknox.com
and i know theres knox research thread for s4 but i think its reasonable to have for note 2 too bcoz its very diff device and here local help can be available other then asking on s4's thread.

As far as I know there is a specific chip on the motherboard where knox increments the flashing.
1st of all since this is a "feature" that came with the note 3, I think we are kind of safe since that specific cip was not integrated on the mb. I'm not sure that even the s4 has one.
Non the less the counter some how could be emulated in the bootloader and thus tricking us in thinking that knox is emplemented.
Some more experienced people sooner or later will figure it up.
My advice is that if you still have warranty think twice before flashing.
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Pezmet said:
As far as I know there is a specific chip on the motherboard where knox increments the flashing.
1st of all since this is a "feature" that came with the note 3, I think we are kind of safe since that specific cip was not integrated on the mb. I'm not sure that even the s4 has one.
Non the less the counter some how could be emulated in the bootloader and thus tricking us in thinking that knox is emplemented.
Some more experienced people sooner or later will figure it up.
My advice is that if you still have warranty think twice before flashing.
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u are right to wait.
but knox is integrated in all kernels, framework and bootloaders. so it may rise a flag as in s4 and note 3 roots,downgrading and etc.
they have this since one exact month and theres no way they can reset it and they got warranty voided.
and s4 doesnt have this kind of efuse chip on mb but still they have all flags i think.

Are you sure that our note2 has an efused inside?
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I am almost sure that it does not
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Javi55 said:
Are you sure that our note2 has an efused inside?
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i didnt say efuse is there neither have s4 as he said.

Pezmet said:
I am almost sure that it does not
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Me too mate.
Ragards from Spain!

I don't have any problems with KNOX. I mean almost.
I have done more than 3 factory resets since i'm using 4.3
The only problem i have with KNOX (i like it) is that after i install it
my Note start to tell me after update on some basic apps
"External StorageSpace left 1.55 MB".
Without KNOX i don't have this massage.

gencho81 said:
I don't have any problems with KNOX. I mean almost.
I have done more than 3 factory resets since i'm using 4.3
The only problem i have with KNOX (i like it) is that after i install it
my Note start to tell me after update on some basic apps
"External StorageSpace left 1.55 MB".
Without KNOX i don't have this massage.
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The current firmware mi6 doesn't have knox integrated, it is just an app but in the new pre official leak mj2 has knox integrated into the bootloader.. Which is hard to bypass as the firmware won't boot with any older bootloader thus there will be knox counter raise on flashing custom recovery or rooting the device.. I haven't still got into details myself but there should be a way of downgrading to older boot and firmware for claiming warranty.. And I guess the s4 community will probably get some work around as they are in deeper problems with official 4.3 has realese for them. It's just a matter of waiting and watching now.
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Custm rom & easy root it let us to choose Samsung device after knox ma b change our lovely brand to another , coz Samsung follow htc steps .
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Just curious if flashing the new MJ2 or the future official ROM from Samsung will reset my already raised counter?

phochiom said:
Just curious if flashing the new MJ2 or the future official ROM from Samsung will reset my already raised counter?
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Use triangle away or a jig to reset counter before you flash the new bootloader
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the new release MJ2 contains TEE (trusted execution environmen) by MobiCore !! in the ( tz.bin ) in BL provided here http://d-h.st/Bhz .
more info here :
http://www.sensepost.com/blog/9114.html
source code here :
https://code.google.com/p/tee-mobicore-driver/
i hope this may help DEV's/Modders to crack this ..

sumeshd said:
Use triangle away or a jig to reset counter before you flash the new bootloader
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Is the jig working on Note 2 ? Didn't know. I use to reset my S2 with it. Thanks

hey guys, are there any limitations in flashing after updating to FW containing Knox? I mean, i don't care if it sets knox flag to 1, i already don't have any warranty. I'm just asking because people everywhere are speaking only about warranty when it comes to Knox. But are there any other restrictions like missing possibility of downgrade, or unability of flashing custom ROMs?
Thanks.

From what I'm reading if you downgrade you can't then upgrade ever again to an official 4.3
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Wow that's pretty scary... Damn Samsung :/
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Work on the note II 4.3 XXUEMI6 and XXUEMJ2 also http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2482306
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sawdoctor said:
From what I'm reading if you downgrade you can't then upgrade ever again to an official 4.3
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Is this true? I mean... who in their right mind would go official after being on xda for any reasonable amount of time?... but the possibility that such a restriction could be enforced on our device is deeply troubling.

Understanding knox.

I need to check some facts
When upgraded to 4.3 I lost root and my is back to stock? True or false
Would it be safe to post a pic of my knox screen?
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cinnamngrl said:
I need to check some facts
When upgraded to 4.3 I lost root and my is back to stock? True or false
Would it be safe to post a pic of my knox screen?
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If you took the OTA update to 4.3, then yes you are on the Knox bootloader. AND you are stock unrooted (unless you've since rooted).
Yes it's safe to post a pic of you system config; there is nothing anyone can take from that information that is harmful to you.

Is this a clean knox? Or is it already tripped.
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cinnamngrl said:
Is this a clean knox? Or is it already tripped.
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Clean Knox
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To get Root, you can use Kingo root without tripping Knox.

optimummind said:
To get Root, you can use Kingo root without tripping Knox.
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Isn't it the custom recovery that ends up tripping the Knox anyways?
I'm a Verizon guy and also have a sprint s4 that I threw Philz on. So I'm not sure if you can do that without tripping Knox, that's the impression I got though.
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Mistertac said:
Isn't it the custom recovery that ends up tripping the Knox anyways?
I'm a Verizon guy and also have a sprint s4 that I threw Philz on. So I'm not sure if you can do that without tripping Knox, that's the impression I got though.
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Yes, custom recovery will trip Knox.

1. My phone was previously rooted,
2. Got 4.3 update
3. Now has a clean knox
My questions are
A. can I root my phone again?
B. Will later android updates give me another clean knox?
C. Are any procedures like triangle away that will keep knox clean?
D. Is warranty the only reason I want a clean knox?
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cinnamngrl said:
1. My phone was previously rooted,
2. Got 4.3 update
3. Now has a clean knox
My questions are
A. can I root my phone again?
B. Will later android updates give me another clean knox?
C. Are any procedures like triangle away that will keep knox clean?
D. Is warranty the only reason I want a clean knox?
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A. Yes you can, if you don't want the Knox warranty flag use Safe Root. If you google safe root for S4 you should find the link. The Knox flag is actually tripped when you install a custom recovery. This means if you use cf autoroot, twrp, philz, or any other root or recovery the Knox flag will be tripped. If you want to install a custom rom or mod, then you will trip the Knox flag since those require a custom recovery. If you just want to root and remove bloat, backup with TiBu, install xposed framework modules, or even unlock the hotspot then you can do those without a custom recovery and keep your Knox warranty flag in place.
B. No, once you have tripped the Knox warranty flag, so far the flag is not reset by installing updates or the full stock tar file of a newer version.
C. Not at his time.
D. Yes, at this time the only thing the Knox warranty flag does is show Samsung that your device has been tampered with at one time. Sprint and Assurian still honor the TEP insurance, but if your phone has to be sent to Samsung for repair or warranty that is where you will have problems.
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cruise350 said:
D. Yes, at this time the only thing the Knox warranty flag does is show Samsung that your device has been tampered with at one time. Sprint and Assurian still honor the TEP insurance, but if your phone has to be sent to Samsung for repair or warranty that is where you will have problems.
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Not sure if this is true or not, but wouldn't triggering Knox prevent you from activating the device on a corporate network?

dimm0k said:
Not sure if this is true or not, but wouldn't triggering Knox prevent you from activating the device on a corporate network?
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Mostlikely YES.
My brother's device had problems with some of their corporate apps (email/portal stuff) designed to look for ROOT and othe security (knox I bet) changes. Is IT guys literally swapped out his phone after he rooted it!
Plus it seems that a whole lot of people are having issue connecting to PEAP WiFi networks; primarily, I'm guessing' Cisco based. [Cisco is notoriously behind the curve. Heck they have security devices (ASAs) that must be accessed with OLD java versions.]
But there ARE some solutions for that around here.

leaderbuilder said:
Mostlikely YES.
My brother's device had problems with some of their corporate apps (email/portal stuff) designed to look for ROOT and othe security (knox I bet) changes. Is IT guys literally swapped out his phone after he rooted it!
Plus it seems that a whole lot of people are having issue connecting to PEAP WiFi networks; primarily, I'm guessing' Cisco based. [Cisco is notoriously behind the curve. Heck they have security devices (ASAs) that must be accessed with OLD java versions.]
But there ARE some solutions for that around here.
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Your voice to text is making some confusing word choice s
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cinnamngrl said:
Your voice to text is making some confusing word choice s
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Only thing I think is really wrong is "Is" instead of "His" (IMHO)... but then again, I'm an IT guy...
That, and I need to put my S4 in my sig! :silly:

leaderbuilder said:
Mostlikely YES.
My brother's device had problems with some of their corporate apps (email/portal stuff) designed to look for ROOT and othe security (knox I bet) changes. Is IT guys literally swapped out his phone after he rooted it!
Plus it seems that a whole lot of people are having issue connecting to PEAP WiFi networks; primarily, I'm guessing' Cisco based. [Cisco is notoriously behind the curve. Heck they have security devices (ASAs) that must be accessed with OLD java versions.]
But there ARE some solutions for that around here.
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what I need is a hotspot. not too often, but itsa drag not to have it.

cinnamngrl said:
what I need is a hotspot. not too often, but itsa drag not to have it.
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Hot spot is easy, run the safe root file from your pc to root your phone. Then download the odexed MK2 hot spot mod in post 337 in the hot spot mod thread. Use 7zip or similar app to extract the services.jar and services.odex file to your sdcard. Then use root explorer to copy them to the system/framework directory. It is a good idea to backup the original files. After you copy the new files you will need to change the permissions to rw-r-r. After this is done reboot and enjoy free hot spot. This will not trip knox since you don't have to install a custom recovery.
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cruise350 said:
Hot spot is easy, run the safe root file from your pc to root your phone. Then download the odexed MK2 hot spot mod in post 337 in the hot spot mod thread. Use 7zip or similar app to extract the services.jar and services.odex file to your sdcard. Then use root explorer to copy them to the system/framework directory. It is a good idea to backup the original files. After you copy the new files you will need to change the permissions to rw-r-r. After this is done reboot and enjoy free hot spot. This will not trip knox since you don't have to install a custom recovery.
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Am i missing some obvious reason that you described the location instead of including a link? BYTW yes, i tried to find it. And thank you

cinnamngrl said:
Am i missing some obvious reason that you described the location instead of including a link? BYTW yes, i tried to find it. And thank you
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Sorry, but I was responding from my phone and couldn't post links but here you go:
Find the correct MK2 odexed hot spot mod in post #337 of this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2256950&page=34
Then you can follow crawj's procedures here to manually install the update without a custom recovery: https://skydrive.live.com/view.aspx...E!131&app=Word&wdo=2&authkey=!AJdLcpl9ak9eZnw
Good Luck

is there a way to remove KNOX completely without tripping the 0x1 flag? has there been developments in this area? seems like everyone's focused on trying to reverse the flag once it's set, but what about the removal of KNOX so that it never sets that flag?

dimm0k said:
is there a way to remove KNOX completely without tripping the 0x1 flag? has there been developments in this area? seems like everyone's focused on trying to reverse the flag once it's set, but what about the removal of KNOX so that it never sets that flag?
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The problem occurs within the bootloader of the MJA or newer firmware. With that version of the software, Samsung has prevented the downgrading of the bootloader so there is no way to get rid if that feature. You can go through the rom and remove or disable the Knox files, which do nothing for the phone except free up some space. Knox's purpose is to allow Samsung to create a secure environment for corporate and government companies that need to protect their info and intellectual properties. The average user will never need Knox, so it's safe to remove. When Samsung fully implemented Knox with 4.3 they integrated it into the bootloader. Now, all of us assume the Knox warranty flag voids your Samsung warranty, which it probably does, but I believe its true purpose is to void the Knox integrity check so the Knox secure containers know the phone has been tampered with and can't guarantee data security.
Data security is big business and Samsung wants a piece of that pie.
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computer programs and knox
so once knox is tripped to 0x1 does that prevent your phone being read by other programs? only reason i ask is because i have tripped knox and some of my data on my phone has been erased (notes, pics, sms, contacts) and the programs i have wont even acknowledge my phone.

Can i root my note 3?

I just got my note 3 today... can i root it? i try to google it but i didnt found the anwser that ive been looking for... help me pleasee... below is my screenshot of my os... and if i can root it how? Can any1 share a link for me...
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I would say yes if you don't mind to trip off the knox flag.
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try this link before?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2466423
[SM-N900*] CF-Auto-Root
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http://www.droidreport.com/how-root-samsung-galaxy-note-3-running-android-442-kitkat-xxuenb3-6273 here you go good luck having any fun with Knox though. That is your version to. SM-N9005. You will trip Knox with this. Which you can't change back :banghead:
BTW not liable for any bricks that occur. You are choosing to make these modifications your self and I can't help if you turn your phone into a useless brick.
Good luck.
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pball52998 said:
http://www.droidreport.com/how-root-samsung-galaxy-note-3-running-android-442-kitkat-xxuenb3-6273 here you go good luck having any fun with Knox though. That is your version to. SM-N9005. You will trip Knox with this. Which you can't change back :banghead:
BTW not liable for any bricks that occur. You are choosing to make these modifications your self and I can't help if you turn your phone into a useless brick.
Good luck.
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ohh my sorry for my 1million question... but what is KNOX?? looks like note 3 is much more complex than s3 huh? i want to use custom rom....

Knox is the security precaution behind Samsung now. Its just basically saying you rooted your phone. Does your phone come with a locked bootloader or are you unlocked by default? Knox will also stop you from downgrading. If you try your phone is straight dead... But you should be able to use safesteap I think.... I think safe strap is out for this one. I can see if I can find it if you would like...
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pball52998 said:
Knox is the security precaution behind Samsung now. Its just basically saying you rooted your phone. Does your phone come with a locked bootloader or are you unlocked by default? Knox will also stop you from downgrading. If you try your phone is straight dead... But you should be able to use safesteap I think.... I think safe strap is out for this one. I can see if I can find it if you would like...
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oh i believe my note 3 is factory unlocked... omg now im scared hahahah by rooting my phone there is chance for me to brick it?

Fizie said:
oh i believe my note 3 is factory unlocked... omg now im scared hahahah by rooting my phone there is chance for me to brick it?
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Well think, there's always a chance to brick any device. I thought I bricked my phone I was stuck in a massive bootloop a few weeks ago. lol. But as long as you follow instructions you should be okay Just read, read, and read the instructions over and over, are you on Verizon? If so you have a locked bootloader. Nobody has found a way to bypass the bootloader like the G2 has with the loki flash. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong. But for right now, the only thing that the Note 3 has is safestrap. Which someone correct me if I'm wrong again. Before you do anything, do you care about voiding the warranty??

Would also suggest to go to settings and make sure re-activation lock is set to "OFF" before flashing...

Just trip the knox counter and install custom ROM then you can use your NOTE 3 at its full potential. I would also suggest to root using cf-autoroot via Odin Mode. Worked every time for me. Good luck on rooting.

Ninimo said:
Just trip the knox counter and install custom ROM then you can use your NOTE 3 at its full potential. I would also suggest to root using cf-autoroot via Odin Mode. Worked every time for me. Good luck on rooting.
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It's not really advisable to tell people to "Just trip the knox counter and install custom ROM" when they have just got the device and have a lot to read up on still. - Especially when the first question they ask is "Can I root my Note 3?"
It's easier regardless of your opinon or anyone else's to let the OP know the facts, the risks and the issues that may come and let them decide. :good:
Welcome to XDA also

radicalisto said:
It's not really advisable to tell people to "Just trip the knox counter and install custom ROM" when they have just got the device and have a lot to read up on still. - Especially when the first question they ask is "Can I root my Note 3?"
It's easier regardless of your opinon or anyone else's to let the OP know the facts, the risks and the issues that may come and let them decide. :good:
Welcome to XDA also
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I just helped him, he's rooted now. Running I think devinci ROM with aosp theme. Then with CWM as recovery.
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pball52998 said:
I just helped him, he's rooted now. Running I think devinci ROM with aosp theme. Then with CWM as recovery.
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[Q] How To Root My Galaxy Note 3?

I just got the Galaxy Note 3 & Gear bundle on contract today through TelecomNZ. My contract was up for a renewal & the Galaxy S5 didn't seem to have any real advantage of the Note 3 so alas I didn't bother to wait.
Now however I am at a standstill...I would really like to root my device as soon as possible. I don't want custom firmware & would like to keep the stock so if there are official updates I can get them. Can anyone assist me please with a step by step to rooting my Note 3 preferably without tripping the Knox counter that I have just recently only found out about thus voiding my warranty. I don't want to void the warranty but I would like root so I can use Titanium Backup so if anyone can please provide me with a step by step to safely rooting my device I will be so appreciative for it.

Here are some details about my phone...
Model Number: SM-N9005
Baseband: N9005XXUDMJ7
Build Number: JSS15J.N9005XXUDMJ7

FHL09 said:
I just got the Galaxy Note 3 & Gear bundle on contract today through TelecomNZ. My contract was up for a renewal & the Galaxy S5 didn't seem to have any real advantage of the Note 3 so alas I didn't bother to wait.
Now however I am at a standstill...I would really like to root my device as soon as possible. I don't want custom firmware & would like to keep the stock so if there are official updates I can get them. Can anyone assist me please with a step by step to rooting my Note 3 preferably without tripping the Knox counter that I have just recently only found out about thus voiding my warranty. I don't want to void the warranty but I would like root so I can use Titanium Backup so if anyone can please provide me with a step by step to safely rooting my device I will be so appreciative for it.
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FHL09 said:
Here are some details about my phone...
Model Number: SM-N9005
Baseband: N9005XXUDMJ7
Build Number: JSS15J.N9005XXUDMJ7
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without tripping KNOX for warranty ? no way Yours is the new bootloader for 4.3, therefore there are no rooting method which is KNOX friendly so far.

antique_sonic said:
without tripping KNOX for warranty ? no way Yours is the new bootloader for 4.3, therefore there are no rooting method which is KNOX friendly so far.
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Okay in that case if I use CF-Root thus voiding my warranty will I risk losing anything else. I had an S3 for 2 years and sheer stupidity resulted in a cracked screen however that was the only time I had to use my warranty so essentially warranty shouldn't concern me but I don't want to trip this Knox counter and lose key features just for root which is all I really want. I don't plan on custom firmware flashing or anything so my OTA should still work via KIES right?
Just crossing the T's and dotting the I's before I possibly ruin a good thing.

Before you root make some checks. If your hardware is OK. Download from market multitouch app to see if your screen passes the 10 fingers test. It's really important. Then stress a bit your phone hardware wise and see if everything runs fine and no defects show up. If everything is OK then trip knox and be happy.
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testadeferro said:
Before you root make some checks. If your hardware is OK. Download from market multitouch app to see if your screen passes the 10 fingers test. It's really important. Then stress a bit your phone hardware wise and see if everything runs fine and no defects show up. If everything is OK then trip knox and be happy.
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FHL09 said:
Okay in that case if I use CF-Root thus voiding my warranty will I risk losing anything else. I had an S3 for 2 years and sheer stupidity resulted in a cracked screen however that was the only time I had to use my warranty so essentially warranty shouldn't concern me but I don't want to trip this Knox counter and lose key features just for root which is all I really want. I don't plan on custom firmware flashing or anything so my OTA should still work via KIES right?
Just crossing the T's and dotting the I's before I possibly ruin a good thing.
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as said by testadeferro,
make a check on your device first for the multitouch (which some note 3 users experience this on their device). So if you need to claim warranty, you are still elligible before you trip the KNOX.
I don't know about KIES, because since my S2, S3, Note1, Note2, and till now Note3, I never use KIES to upgrade my firmware. I like to use ODIN more. And yes, though u root your device, you are still able to flash back firmware (newer version) through ODIN.
cheers.

FHL09 said:
Here are some details about my phone...
Model Number: SM-N9005
Baseband: N9005XXUDMJ7
Build Number: JSS15J.N9005XXUDMJ7
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I have n9005 and I rooted using cf root yesterday
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antique_sonic said:
as said by testadeferro,
make a check on your device first for the multitouch (which some note 3 users experience this on their device). So if you need to claim warranty, you are still elligible before you trip the KNOX.
I don't know about KIES, because since my S2, S3, Note1, Note2, and till now Note3, I never use KIES to upgrade my firmware. I like to use ODIN more. And yes, though u root your device, you are still able to flash back firmware (newer version) through ODIN.
cheers.
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testadeferro said:
Before you root make some checks. If your hardware is OK. Download from market multitouch app to see if your screen passes the 10 fingers test. It's really important. Then stress a bit your phone hardware wise and see if everything runs fine and no defects show up. If everything is OK then trip knox and be happy.
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So basically if the app recognizes 10 fingers on the screen at once it's fine correct? I managed to get 10 fingers recognized easily so essentially I'm okay to root or should I be doing something else first?

Oh and can I just quickly add I love XDA. Thanks for the support guys. I took the time to click the thanks button for you all its not much but I do appreciate the guidance.

Lol, and since when does this multi touch have anything to do with rooting ? Just root the damn thing.
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Dejan Sathanas said:
Lol, and since when does this multi touch have anything to do with rooting ? Just root the damn thing.
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Read carefully please. The multitouch has nothing to do with root. The point is that some screens have issues. And before you loose warranty by rooting you should check it. Duh!
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Thanks!
Okay I have taken the jump & I am now rooted, thanks for the guidance! I have also updated my signature

Dejan Sathanas said:
Lol, and since when does this multi touch have anything to do with rooting ? Just root the damn thing.
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Yeah... long live root!
Damn sammy all their note device always got h/w problem.
Emmc brick bugs, sds, and now multitouch. Hahaha
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I have some question about Knox

Hi
I have bought me a new samsung s5 and I really want to flash a different rom and kernel but now I wonder if someone can tell me if the warranty is gone if I do that (if I understood it right it would trigger the knox)?,is there any way to reset the knox thing?
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Peter
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shysstkille said:
Hi
I have bought me a new samsung s5 and I really want to flash a different rom and kernel but now I wonder if someone can tell me if the warranty is gone if I do that (if I understood it right it would trigger the knox)?,is there any way to reset the knox thing?
best regards
Peter
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Look here http://omegadroid.co/wanted-knox-void-warranty-0x1/ for instance and KNOX cannot be reset atm. You can root with Towelroot without tripipng KNOX but flashing a kernel or custom recovery will set KNOX on 0x1. Yes, tripping KNOX will void warranty in some regions depending on local laws. In the EU it doesn`t unless the oem can prove that rooting was the cause of the defect.

shysstkille said:
I really want to flash a different rom and kernel but now I wonder if someone can tell me if the warranty is gone if I do that (if I understood it right it would trigger the knox)?,is there any way to reset the knox thing?
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Knox doesn't matter to most people. Samsung will, particularly in North America disavow a warranty if Knox is tripped. But most people don't deal with Samsung for warranty issues. They deal with their carrier and most carriers don't care about Knox.And stronger consumer protection legislation in the EU means that your warranty rights cannot be summarily dismissed. You signature suggests that you may be in the EU in which case it isn't likely an issue for you. Do a forum search to see how your carrier, which you neglected to name, handles warranty claims.
A forum search would have given you better answers to all of your questions. You would find threads demonstrating that Knox can be reset. But it has only been demonstrated in limited and experimental conditions so far. It's not yet clear how widely that could be applied and isn't likely to be easily accessible to you anytime soon. A custom recovery, custom kernel or some older root methods will trip Knox.
If you are unwilling to trip Knox, then use towel root which shouldn't increment Knox and Safestrap to run your ROM. It's a lot more cumbersome and limits your choices. But you pick your poison and drink it.
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fffft said:
Knox doesn't matter to most people. Samsung will, particularly in North America disavow a warranty if Knox is tripped. But most people don't deal with Samsung for warranty issues. They deal with their carrier and most carriers don't care about Knox.And stronger consumer protection legislation in the EU means that your warranty rights cannot be summarily dismissed. You signature suggests that you may be in the EU in which case it isn't likely an issue for you. Do a forum search to see how your carrier, which you neglected to name, handles warranty claims.
A forum search would have given you better answers to all of your questions. You would find threads demonstrating that Knox can be reset. But it has only been demonstrated in limited and experimental conditions so far. It's not yet clear how widely that could be applied and isn't likely to be easily accessible to you anytime soon. A custom recovery, custom kernel or some older root methods will trip Knox.
If you are unwilling to trip Knox, then use towel root which shouldn't increment Knox and Safestrap to run your ROM. It's a lot more cumbersome and limits your choices. But you pick your poison and drink it.
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thanks all for your answer,For the moment I have towelroot in my phone but is there any difference between towelroot and a "normal"root?,I mean is it more limits when I use towelroot?,on my samsung s4 I have a "normal" root.
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shysstkille said:
is there any difference between towelroot and a "normal"root?,I mean is it more limits when I use towelroot?,on my samsung s4 I have a "normal" root.
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No, root is root. Towel root is just a nickname to the latest way to obtain root.
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fffft said:
No, root is root. Towel root is just a nickname to the latest way to obtain root.
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åh,Nice,thanks a lot mate
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How do I check the Knox counter?.... :/
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Toxicoblivion said:
How do I check the Knox counter?
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A forum search would have told you this.. look on the download mode page, in the system properties or install an app like Phone Info.
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shysstkille said:
thanks all for your answer,For the moment I have towelroot in my phone but is there any difference between towelroot and a "normal"root?,I mean is it more limits when I use towelroot?,on my samsung s4 I have a "normal" root.
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Towelroot uses an exploit so it won't trip your KNOX counter.
Using regular root on the GS5 trips KNOX.
But as stated above, flashing a custom recovery, kernel or ROM will trip KNOX regardless.
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Toxicoblivion said:
How do I check the Knox counter?.... :/
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You can either use download mode like the guy who replied to you or download an app off playstore called Phone Info.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.vndnguyen.phoneinfo&hl=en