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[Q] T-Mobile USA HD Voice Calling supported on Nexus 4?

Just read this on Engadget a minute ago: http://www.engadget.com/2013/01/08/t-mobile-claims-to-be-first-us-carrier-with-hd-voice-calling-nat/
I was wondering if anybody knows if our Nexus 4's support this or not?

Wondering the same as it is a official TMo 4G phone.

I read on the verge it was only the gs3 and the One S.
I do remember someone on this forum a few days ago mention they had HD voice with the N4 in Europe.
EDIT: Here's a blurb from T-Mobile's press release. http://newsroom.t-mobile.com/articles/t-mobile-network-advancements?utm_source=TMOTW&utm_medium=CESPR&utm_campaign=1082013
T-Mobile today announced that HD Voice is now available on its network nationwide, dramatically improving in-call voice quality for customers with capable smartphones. Customers will hear a more true-to-life voice quality that’s fuller and more natural-sounding with significantly reduced background noise from street traffic, wind and crowd noise. To experience HD Voice, both parties on the call must use capable T-Mobile 4G smartphones such as the HTC One™ S, Nokia Astound and Samsung Galaxy S® III on T-Mobile’s HD Voice-enabled nationwide network. T-Mobile is the first U.S. wireless provider to launch HD Voice nationwide.
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Looks like it only works between compatible phones on T-Mobile's network. Kind of lame...

People in Europe said it worked when they called an S3, so there isn't anything stopping it from working here I think. Should just be a matter of T-Mo turning it on, which they say they've done. I don't know anyone with a supported phone on T-Mo to test it with, though.
If you have a friend with an S3 or One S on T-Mo, a good test would be to call them back-to-back with someone who doesn't have a supported device and report back.

What is the special capability these phones have that the Nexus 4 doesn't have? Is T-Mobile blowing smoke?
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NardVa said:
What is the special capability these phones have that the Nexus 4 doesn't have? Is T-Mobile blowing smoke?
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They make more money selling them? They aren't going to list every single supported device in the press release.

El Daddy said:
I read on the verge it was only the gs3 and the One S.
I do remember someone on this forum a few days ago mention they had HD voice with the N4 in Europe.
EDIT: Here's a blurb from T-Mobile's press release. http://newsroom.t-mobile.com/articles/t-mobile-network-advancements?utm_source=TMOTW&utm_medium=CESPR&utm_campaign=1082013
Looks like it only works between compatible phones on T-Mobile's network. Kind of lame...
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T Mobile sells N4

zephiK said:
T Mobile sells N4
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Ha. I'm aware
I was just saying its lame that its only limited to a few phones with an intra-network call. But hey, they have to start somewhere.
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well, someone with T-Mobile please call me, have a chat and see if HD Voice works. My number starts with +1.

how are you supposed to know if the call is in hd anways? Just by the sound?

gopheer said:
how are you supposed to know if the call is in hd anways? Just by the sound?
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Yes, I want to be able to compare to calls and see if it really makes a difference or of it is just marketing.
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floppyears said:
Yes, I want to be able to compare to calls and see if it really makes a difference or of it is just marketing.
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your device has to support it. i havent heard anything about n4 support

I've yet to read an official list.

Reading this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1963885
Some people claim that the DSP and baseband chips in the Nexus 4 would support the proper codec for this to work... but it would also take the network supporting it (which should be the case for T-Mobile US now and the ROM must support it.
Further, sjgore from UK and computerdan from Toronto both say that it is working for them on their cellular networks.

Does anyone have a way for me to test it? T-Mobile said they are rolling out HD Voice nationwide today and I'm covered by HSPA. I have two Nexus 4s,so I just need to know how to test for you guys.

Vertana said:
Does anyone have a way for me to test it? T-Mobile said they are rolling out HD Voice nationwide today and I'm covered by HSPA. I have two Nexus 4s,so I just need to know how to test for you guys.
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I have a Nexus 4 and so does my wife, both of us are covered by HSPA+ and running stock ROMs. We haven't noticed any difference yet when talking to each other.

It should support HD
Judging by this thread, it should work without a problem.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1963885

thecraigmcrae said:
Judging by this thread, it should work without a problem.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1963885
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1 person without proof but his word isnt confirmation.

What about Galaxy Nexus
Does anyone know if Galaxy nexus supports HD voice? If so, what can I do to enable it?

Vertana said:
Does anyone have a way for me to test it? T-Mobile said they are rolling out HD Voice nationwide today and I'm covered by HSPA. I have two Nexus 4s,so I just need to know how to test for you guys.
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To test HD Voice
1. Have someone use your other Nexus 4.
2. Call him on your Nexus 4.
3. Play a 6kHz or 7kHz tone on your computer speakers (should be able to find this on the Internet)
4. Hold your Nexus 4 up to the speakers. See if he can hear it.
5. Repeat the same experiment, but this time use your landline or another cell phone to call him.
Standard phones have a 4kHz cutoff frequency, HD Voice has an 8kHz cutoff frequency.

[Q] Sprint G2 users in NY area questions

I have sprint version and live in Westchester county /Bronx border. When in calls I experience some static and a popping every now and again. Only in call on speaker or earpiece, all video and audio playback is clear, so I know its not speaker related. I have done numerous hard/soft resets, tech support reset my network, updated profile/prl. Still the same, weird thing is, when roaming calls are crystal clear. Went to the sprint store today and they are saying its network related(don't really believe it) since my 4 year old has more knowledge than some of their CSR s. However I would just like to know if anyone else in my vicinity is dealing with sane issue? I also have iPhone 5s and HTC one that have never done. Any thoughts, help, would be appreciated.

Darryjr said:
I have sprint version and live in Westchester county /Bronx border. When in calls I experience some static and a popping every now and again. Only in call on speaker or earpiece, all video and audio playback is clear, so I know its not speaker related. I have done numerous hard/soft resets, tech support reset my network, updated profile/prl. Still the same, weird thing is, when roaming calls are crystal clear. Went to the sprint store today and they are saying its network related(don't really believe it) since my 4 year old has more knowledge than some of their CSR s. However I would just like to know if anyone else in my vicinity is dealing with sane issue? I also have iPhone 5s and HTC one that have never done. Any thoughts, help, would be appreciated.
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I noticed this to and I am in Putnam county and work in Westchester. My S4 did it sometimes to though. Although the G2 seems to be more frequent.
-Frank

frankt2012 said:
I noticed this to and I am in Putnam county and work in Westchester. My S4 did it sometimes to though. Although the G2 seems to be more frequent.
-Frank
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Thank the lord its just not me, not that I want to wish you bad, but at least it solidifies me not being crazy.

Darryjr said:
Thank the lord its just not me, not that I want to wish you bad, but at least it solidifies me not being crazy.
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If it helps I made two calls today and they sounded great. I want to assume it is the towers.

Why to not buy the AT&T phone for TMO

I've seen some threads abound for people asking if the AT&T version works on T-Mobile and while it does there are some things that you should know before making that plunge even though you might be able to save $50.
First the good. If you've already done this that's fine. All bands for operation on T-mobile are on the AT&T variant. So no issues there. Don't feel like me making this thread means your device won't work.
If you're weighing what you lose in this scenario:
- You'll need to buy an unlock code, or at least find one, to switch it over. While these codes are cheap it's still chipping away at that small discount you got to buy the AT&T version instead of the TMO one.
- VoLTE support. While it's not enabled yet, it will come shortly and AT&T phones won't have the right radio and framework to make this work on TMO.
- QI Charging - in case you've been living under a rock in these forums, the AT&T model utilizes the basically non-existant powermat charging method and they have disabled the ability to use a QI wireless charger. Supposedly this is at the hardware level so this isn't something that can be fixed with a patch or custom ROM if true.
- No WiFi calling. Self explanatory. AT&T doesn't have/use this technology.
- locked bootloader. Now this may change over time with the amazing devs that we have but should you accidentally relock it or get a replacement phone because your old one got lost/broken you may have a newer bootloader than the one that could be bypassed previously. Better to just not deal with it.
Now for those looking to go the other way (TMO device on AT&T) that's fine. Just know that the tmo version is missing the 850mhz LTE band. Not that big a deal though as they don't really use that band much but it is a difference.
If anyone can think of anything else I missed feel free to chime in. Or if anyone has any general thoughts.

Wifi calling? Thats a thing?
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StreetkillnHD said:
Wifi calling? Thats a thing?
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Yep. Works great when I'm out of the country and want to call someone here without being charged for international calling.

Slash8915 said:
Yep. Works great when I'm out of the country and want to call someone here without being charged for international calling.
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yeah, looking forward to using this when we travel... too bad the reverse isn't free.
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Yep. Works great when I'm out of the country and want to call someone here without being charged for international calling.
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And anywhere you don't get great reception. My work is basically a giant steel cage so everyone's service sucks in here but Wifi incoming and outgoing calls work like a charm. Basements etc are also good areas to use it
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yeah, looking forward to using this when we travel... too bad the reverse isn't free.
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It's not? I get incoming and outgoing calls all the time on mine.

arcanexvi said:
And anywhere you don't get great reception. My work is basically a giant steel cage so everyone's service sucks in here but Wifi incoming and outgoing calls work like a charm. Basements etc are also good areas to use it
It's not? I get incoming and outgoing calls all the time on mine.
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According to T-mo it's 20 cents/min to call international through WiFi. makes sense since the call has to be routed to cellular on the other side. I guess an exception would be if the recipient also has WiFi calling.
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Does the AT&T LG G3 support WCDMA on the Band 4/AWS band?

Wifi calling for T-Mobile?

Has anyone tried getting Wifi calling for T-Mobile to work? It stinks that my Nexus 6 (which I bought via Verizon) works just fine with wifi calling for T-Mobile after I switched, yet so far, the G4 (also Motorola) doesn't seem to work.

As far as I can tell, either the ROM or the phone does not support WiFi calling regardless of SIM. There is no Wifi calling option in the settings where it is on the 6p. This phone feels so amazingly stock, I would LOVE if someone could figure out WiFi calling. It is a bit of a deal breaker for me, but I'm trying to stick it out because I really like the G4 so far.

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As far as I can tell, either the ROM or the phone does not support WiFi calling regardless of SIM. There is no Wifi calling option in the settings where it is on the 6p. This phone feels so amazingly stock, I would LOVE if someone could figure out WiFi calling. It is a bit of a deal breaker for me, but I'm trying to stick it out because I really like the G4 so far.
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wtf really? I thought that wifi calling was now integrated into android....since it was in the nexus 5x and 6p. I'm on t-mobile and wifi calling is a must have (given their spotty coverage). I just got my Moto G4 yesterday but hadn't added my sim yet until I could figure out whether to de-bloat and/or unlock it, but if it doesn't have wifi calling its going to have to go back to Amazon. Might it be something that will be enabled through a Cyanogen mod rom?

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wtf really? I thought that wifi calling was now integrated into android....since it was in the nexus 5x and 6p. I'm on t-mobile and wifi calling is a must have (given their spotty coverage). I just got my Moto G4 yesterday but hadn't added my sim yet until I could figure out whether to de-bloat and/or unlock it, but if it doesn't have wifi calling its going to have to go back to Amazon. Might it be something that will be enabled through a Cyanogen mod rom?
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I'm also on T-Mobile, and in a similar boat. I'm hopeful someone will figure out how to enable it. On the plus side, this thing has EXCELLENT reception. It blows away my iPhone 6S.

brockwitting said:
I'm also on T-Mobile, and in a similar boat. I'm hopeful someone will figure out how to enable it. On the plus side, this thing has EXCELLENT reception. It blows away my iPhone 6S.
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I second that, Great reception AND it has the 700 mhz band for new T-Mobile LTE.
Some stuff about t-mobile 700mhz LTE band devices: http://www.spectrumgateway.com/compatible-phones
Some more here about VoLTE and WiFi calling: https://www.reddit.com/r/tmobile/co...day_anybody_able_to_confirm/d59x5ed?context=2

Is there any way to find out definitively if this will or will not become available? If I'm going to return this phone I'd rather not find out later that I didn't need to do so.

brockwitting said:
I'm also on T-Mobile, and in a similar boat. I'm hopeful someone will figure out how to enable it. On the plus side, this thing has EXCELLENT reception. It blows away my iPhone 6S.
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A couple of alternatives would be google hangouts to make and receive calls on your google voice number....
2nd alternative.....install talkatone which includes a large number of free minutes for calls each month....have your google voice number ring both your phone AND the talkatone number and answer whichever one.
Just some suggestions.

famewolf said:
A couple of alternatives would be google hangouts to make and receive calls on your google voice number....
2nd alternative.....install talkatone which includes a large number of free minutes for calls each month....have your google voice number ring both your phone AND the talkatone number and answer whichever one.
Just some suggestions.
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Yeah, I've thought about doing that, but I want to be able to get calls from the number everyone has for me seamlessly without having to give out a second number. It works flawlessly on my 2013 iphone 5s (which is barely hanging in there after taking a drink in the neighbor's pool and getting a subsequent rice bath) and I just want it to work on a 2016 Android phone.

ttttubby said:
Is there any way to find out definitively if this will or will not become available? If I'm going to return this phone I'd rather not find out later that I didn't need to do so.
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Last year's Moto X Pure never got WiFi calling, so I don't expect the G4 to get it.

xtermmin said:
Last year's Moto X Pure never got WiFi calling, so I don't expect the G4 to get it.
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Feels like it should have. If Apple can do it. Android should be able to do it too yes?

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Feels like it should have. If Apple can do it. Android should be able to do it too yes?
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Android can do it fine, the Nexus 5X and 6P can do TMO WiFi Calling, guess Moto just doesn't want to bother with it.

Many retail mobiles have "Wifi Calling" function but not any menu entry to enable , The APP can check the hidden function and enable it if can use.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.widget7.wifi.calling

HTC U11 AT&T support and collection

this is going to be an AT&T specific collection thread for this carrier specific stuff like VVM and try to make wifi calling work, also users can ask any questions related to AT&T and I will try to answer them and hopefully other users can help to.
HTC lying about AT&T "compatibility"
U11 does not support VoLTE on AT&T
U11 does not support WiFi-Calling on AT&T
U11 does not support Video Call on AT&T
U11 does not support Integrated Visual Voicemail on messages app like it use to on HTC One M7, M8 & M9, you need the stand alone app which is crap...
the phone works for calls data LTE works MMS haven't test yet I don't use them....

Any comment from AT&T on any of this? We know HTC's saying it works.

bassoprofundo said:
Any comment from AT&T on any of this? We know HTC's saying it works.
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Haha, AT&T never comments on these things.. and it won't work.. I have and unlocked GS8 and it don't work there either.. so no way in #[email protected] it will work on HTC..

Argh... This sucks. I'm in an area where coverage quality has dropped significantly, and I spend a lot of time in a building where almost no signal gets through from any provider. Wifi calling and texting has become a lot more important for me for that reason. I can get by without the extra features, but it's tough now what I've had them (currently using an S7 edge and Note 5).I guess that leaves me with no option but Samsung or LG (and all of the provider bloatware).

https://twitter.com/CrowsnestIT/status/874728832468746240

The results of my time and effort with both AT&T and Verizon and a chat with HTC : View attachment 4181945

Don't activate the U11 on AT&T, once their computer "knows" you have an uncertified device you lose LTE data and are forced onto HSPA+!
Does anyone know an APN setting that will reactivate LTE?

longdongsilver said:
Don't activate the U11 on AT&T, once their computer "knows" you have an uncertified device you lose LTE data and are forced onto HSPA+!
Does anyone know an APN setting that will reactivate LTE?
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Weird. Your icons are not same as mine. Are you 4G (HSPA+) or 4G LTE? My APN settings don't have a field for APN protocol

longdongsilver said:
Weird. Your icons are not same as mine. Are you 4G (HSPA+) or 4G LTE? My APN settings don't have a field for APN protocol
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I am using a custom rom that's all...

no band 30 guys. http://www.htc.com/us/smartphones/htc-u11/

Not a fair critisim for HTC. Even if the phone is capable like my non-AT&T S8, if the phone does not have the AT&T logo on it they will not allow these features. So complain about AT&T like I do.

I'm on at&t and I'm getting full LTE with zero issues.

Proof

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Proof
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See if you still have LTE during a call. The LTE icon should go away and if you go into about phone and then network, it'll most likely say HSPA. The problem is we're not getting services like VoLTE and wifi calling. In normal cases, HSPA speeds should be manageable considering the average phone call won't be very long and there's wifi nearly everywhere now. This is just bad for those in areas with poor reception. I've been doing ok with the whole issue since I never really noticed much of a difference with HD voice and I'm usually always somewhere with wifi.
My question is what did they do differently with the U11 than the 10. We never had any of these issues with the 10 being unlocked and not certified and all that bs

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See if you still have LTE during a call. The LTE icon should go away and if you go into about phone and then network, it'll most likely say HSPA. The problem is we're not getting services like VoLTE and wifi calling. In normal cases, HSPA speeds should be manageable considering the average phone call won't be very long and there's wifi nearly everywhere now. This is just bad for those in areas with poor reception. I've been doing ok with the whole issue since I never really noticed much of a difference with HD voice and I'm usually always somewhere with wifi.
My question is what did they do differently with the U11 than the 10. We never had any of these issues with the 10 being unlocked and not certified and all that bs
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It lasts about 20 seconds then it changed to 4G only. LTE is gone

Z51 said:
I'm on at&t and I'm getting full LTE with zero issues.
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I also get LTE that is not the issue here, the problem is VoLTE.
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See if you still have LTE during a call. The LTE icon should go away and if you go into about phone and then network, it'll most likely say HSPA. The problem is we're not getting services like VoLTE and wifi calling. In normal cases, HSPA speeds should be manageable considering the average phone call won't be very long and there's wifi nearly everywhere now. This is just bad for those in areas with poor reception. I've been doing ok with the whole issue since I never really noticed much of a difference with HD voice and I'm usually always somewhere with wifi.
My question is what did they do differently with the U11 than the 10. We never had any of these issues with the 10 being unlocked and not certified and all that bs
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The importance for me & probably for many others on getting VoLTE is that I do technical support on my phone and trouble shooting while on a call takes to much time most of the time, that being said if I don't have the option to make phone calls on VoLTE means internet speeds while on a call is crap.... I really don't care about HD call clarity as far as I can here the other person, but the internet speed while on a call it is important to me the faster I can browse the faster I can provide technical support
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It lasts about 20 seconds then it changed to 4G only. LTE is gone
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Having a weird issue with my U11 on AT&T. I randomly lose all signal for no reason then takes a good 30 seconds for it to connect again.
It has happened at least a couple times a week mid phone call which is really obnoxious. I have seen it happen a few times when I am just browsing through my phone not on a call so I know its not just a calling issue, and I am sure it has happened multiple times when I am not looking at my phone at all and I don't notice.
Anyone else had this issue? An issue with AT&T and can be fixed by a firmware update? Or am I alone and need to RMA?

I know this thread is old, but can't we use the ATT RUU if you do what you need to do? We used to be able to go back and forth, at least that's what I did with both my M7 and M8. If you really need those features, that's what I would do.