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[Q] Is it possible to use data on the phone while on a voice call?

Long time AT&T customer probably switching to Sprint, been eyeing the Epic..
If I get a voice call, is it possible (if I'm using a BT headset or speakerphone) to fire up a web browser on it and use that while I'm in-call? To look things up, or whatever?
If it can't do that, are there any other Sprint phones that can (EVO, for example?)
Thanks!

if i remember right, you can use data and voice only when you are connected onto 4G and WIFI, but not 3G. i have not tested this out yet to confirm but i remember reading that somewhere if i read it right. i also came from att (iphone) and being able to use data (3G) and voice at the same time was a major plus. ill have to try it out though later on my epic.

Yes u can use data while on a call only if you are on WiFi or 4g. Tested and verified.
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Well, drat. Thanks fellas. Not that I do that very often, but it does come in handy. I checked and EVO "suffers" from the same problem.
Again, thanks, that's handy to know.

Its a cdma limitation, not a device one. Both sprint and verizon have this issue.

Aridon said:
Its a cdma limitation, not a device one. Both sprint and verizon have this issue.
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Some might say it is a "limitation", however is it the reason why cdma networks do not suffer from dropped calls like gsm networks do.
For more information, you can check out this rather lengthy post about why cdma is better than gsm.

yeah, i experience the same thing. it's becoming pretty much a deal breaker for me, as often i am on the phone for an hour or more and am trying to look things up at the same time. no joy. plus the abysmal battery life has me glad that i am still in the 30 day window ?; i like the phone a lot otherwise. wish i could get it for ATT. i have never had problems with their service, and would love to be able to talk and surf at the same time.

On 3g only voice.
On 4g voice n data simultaneous
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remedy22 said:
Some might say it is a "limitation", however is it the reason why cdma networks do not suffer from dropped calls like gsm networks do.
For more information, you can check out this rather lengthy post about why cdma is better than gsm.
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+1 you can thank the iPhone and this great "feature" for the ****ty network over at ATT

I am LOVING the wifi calling!

That OTA update came just in the nick of time. I pushed it myself after I read about how to do it and still hadn't received the update. I left for Manila on Friday the 12th and have been loving the wifi calling here!! It has been a life saver in terms of paying for international calling. There is zero lag and the call sounds just as good as if I were on the network in the states. I can't really imagine a use for it while in the country since it still takes minutes, but I guess if you are in an area without TMobile but yet still has a wifi connection with a fast enough speed to carry the call, then it could be useful. I just don't know where that place is... All I can tell you is that it has been working amazingly well in the Philippians and I have been able to make and receive calls without interruption all week. My colleagues who have needed to pack an extra phone with international calling abilities have been absolutely green with envy as I'm still able to do business easily in the office without needing to be on a landline or paying extra to use my cell phone in the hotel. What a great innovation!!! Even texting has worked just as if I were still in the states. Everybody I call and text have had a hard time remembering that I'm out of the country since it is still not totally normal to be receiving calls and texts from the same US number even though I'm abroad.
Anyway, I thought I'd share. I tried it while I was in the states, but didn't know if the clarity or quality of the call was influenced by being near the TMobile network anyway. I can tell you for sure that it is a great thing with no downside. You do need more than just a wifi signal though. If the signal isn't strong enough then the phone won't register to the TMobile network and it won't work. Oddly enough, when it says the signal isn't strong enough to make calls, they still come in just fine. Maybe just a couple bugs to work out, but this has definitely made me glad I went with TMobile and not Sprint when I was shopping for a new Android.

Are you sure you're not still paying for international calling? I thought T-Mo was going to charge you.
As for "getting an international phone", the G2 probably could have been unlocked (barring S-OFF issues) to work with the GSM there just fine.
I just took my G1 to Australia after getting the unlock code from T-Mo, and it worked great there, 3G with an Australian SIM.

dancingwombat said:
Are you sure you're not still paying for international calling? I thought T-Mo was going to charge you.
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I remember someone on this forum confirming that if you use Wi-Fi calling, your phone is treated as though it's roaming in the states, which makes it extremely useful for those who commute internationally, like the OP.

Does wifi calling/texting count as data charge (becouse if it does, I'll be able to text for free anywhere there is wifi)
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WiFi Calling feature uses plan minutes and plan txt messages... there are no extra charges unless you go over your limit

I was unaware it used plan minutes. Sounds pointless now unless I have bad signal in the house

greengoldmello said:
I was unaware it used plan minutes. Sounds pointless now unless I have bad signal in the house
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As soon as you turn it on, it says it uses plan minutes.
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Yeah, unless you just don't get a good signal in your house, there isn't much point to the wifi calling since it still uses your plan minutes. From here it works just like I'm in my office at home. I can call and text local numbers without having to dial any other weird country codes or anything. And people at home don't even need to know I'm out of the country since they just call my number and my phone rings just like normal.
Typically I have just used skype to call for free computer to computer since using it to call a phone number costs money. But now I can use the wifi and that is so much better! However, my hotel doesn't allow the phone to register with Tmobile, so some servers are going to put the kabosh on using this type of thing. I'm just wondering if it would work from the plane when I'm flying domestically and have the wifi available to me... FCC regulations prohibit using a phone during flight even if you are connected to wifi, so it doesn't really matter I guess.

Delta105RUS said:
Does wifi calling/texting count as data charge (becouse if it does, I'll be able to text for free anywhere there is wifi)
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The texting still counts as texting and not as a data charge. So it basically just uses whatever you already have on your plan. If you are out of text messages or minutes, then you will get charged for going over just like usual. I've got an unlimited plan for all that, so it isn't something I really keep track of.

dancingwombat said:
Are you sure you're not still paying for international calling? I thought T-Mo was going to charge you.
As for "getting an international phone", the G2 probably could have been unlocked (barring S-OFF issues) to work with the GSM there just fine.
I just took my G1 to Australia after getting the unlock code from T-Mo, and it worked great there, 3G with an Australian SIM.
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I'm sure it could have been, but that is why I'm glad the wifi calling update came when it did. It saved me the trouble of needing to do it. Anytime I've been away from the office where I haven't had a wifi signal to attach to has been times when I don't really want to talk on the phone anyway. Especially here... I really don't want people seeing me with a G2 in my hand when it is a pretty lusted after phone here. Everything is uber cheap here, but I was at a less than legitimate item mall yesterday and they had a G2 in the same case as an iPad. I can get a 32GB ipad for less than a G2 here.

Can the SGT 7.7 double as a phone?

Can the SGT 7.7 double as a phone? Does it have a sim card slot 3G?

darkhunter21 said:
Can the SGT 7.7 double as a phone? Does it have a sim card slot 3G?
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Yes, and yes.
Of course I'm talking about the P6800 here, and not the P6810, which is the WiFi-only version.
If you're hoping that the Verizon 7.7 will double as your phone, then sorry, you're out of luck; NO American carrier will ever knowingly allow a device which "does it all." It's bad for business you see...

Will the import version work with Tmobile? If so, I'm assuming only on Edge

darkhunter21 said:
Will the import version work with Tmobile? If so, I'm assuming only on Edge
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Correct. No AWS1700 love for the 7.7 import. Of course there's always the $50/month unlimited everything pay-as-you-go GoPhone option...

Regards to the tmobile question, yea only voice+edge but at the same time its beimg saif that tmobile upgraded to 1900mhz and ofcourse the p6800 handles that i am tryin to find the
service menu codes to see if can change the frequency to 1900mhz and if that doesnt work there us always att :-(
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adinis78 said:
Regards to the tmobile question, yea only voice+edge but at the same time its beimg saif that tmobile upgraded to 1900mhz and ofcourse the p6800 handles that i am tryin to find the
service menu codes to see if can change the frequency to 1900mhz and if that doesnt work there us always att :-(
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The 7.7 already supports 1900mhz out of the box. No need to change anything in the service codes menu.

Jade Eyed Wolf said:
The 7.7 already supports 1900mhz out of the box. No need to change anything in the service codes menu.
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Then still not able to get voice+3g not sure if calling tmobile would help since the tab is not here in the US yet
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adinis78 said:
Then still not able to get voice+3g not sure if calling tmobile would help since the tab is not here in the US yet
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I'm sure if you happen to be in a 1900mhz t-mobile area, you'll be able to get voice+3g just fine.

Jade Eyed Wolf said:
I'm sure if you happen to be in a 1900mhz t-mobile area, you'll be able to get voice+3g just fine.
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I guess uou are right, mihjt have to visit nyc more often from now on lol!!!
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I can confirm that I can use the 7.7 as a phone on AT&T just by popping in my phone's SIM.

burhanistan said:
I can confirm that I can use the 7.7 as a phone on AT&T just by popping in my phone's SIM.
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Woot! thanks, can anyone confirmed Tmobile (US) though? Just to be certain before I jump on the 6800. I mostly text with my phone.

darkhunter21 said:
Woot! thanks, can anyone confirmed Tmobile (US) though? Just to be certain before I jump on the 6800. I mostly text with my phone.
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I can't confirm, but I'd bet $2 that it will but will only be 2G. I put a T-Mobile 4G hotspot SIM in there and all I got was EDGE speeds.

darkhunter21 said:
Woot! thanks, can anyone confirmed Tmobile (US) though? Just to be certain before I jump on the 6800. I mostly text with my phone.
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It will work as a phone but you will only get edge and not 3g I can confirm this as I am a T-Mobile user
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Bluetooth "pen"
Oh, and if you don't want to look silly holding the thing up to your head to talk on the phone, in addition to using a regular bluetooth earpiece Samsung has this device out now:
http://www.gadgetreview.com/2011/03...set-acts-like-a-second-phone-but-smaller.html
Seems ideal for a tablet. If not for the much better camera in my phone I'd be tempted to shed it and just use the tablet.

Hold on a minute. Can someone clarify something for me. I know it has the specs to be used as a "phone". BUT, is there phone/dialer/messaging software on it. And does that thing on the top in the middle act as a speaker or earpiece?
Cuz, I'm seriously considering using one as a "phone". LOL the looks I'll get. And I don't care. Honestly people don't care anymore anyway. It's accepted. If you can carry it, you can talk on it. haha.
Thanks.

juiceppc said:
Hold on a minute. Can someone clarify something for me. I know it has the specs to be used as a "phone". BUT, is there phone/dialer software on it. And does that thing on the top in the middle act as a speaker or earpiece?
Cuz, I'm seriously considering using one as a "phone". LOL the looks I'll get. And I don't care. Honestly people don't care anymore anyway. It's accepted. If you can carry it, you can talk on it. haha.
Thanks.
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Yes, it works just like a regular cellphone. That speaker is additional to the stereo speakers around the charging port. It has dialer (Touchwiz-look) just like a regular cellphone. You just need to have a plan that includes voice and you're good to go.

burhanistan said:
Yes, it works just like a regular cellphone. That speaker is additional to the stereo speakers around the charging port. It has dialer (Touchwiz-look) just like a regular cellphone. You just need to have a plan that includes voice and you're good to go.
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Uh Oh... I did not know this... Time to sell my Note. lol.
So I imagine that ATT isn't too kind to allowing people use this as a "smartphone" though. I'll have to do some sweet talking. I'll pay whatever.
Also I'll need some kind of case with a grip on it to be able to hold it up to my ear one handed. OMG this is going to be hilarious when I show people my new "cell phone". Yes I know I can get a bluetooth headset but I'll just lose it or forget to charge it or whatever. One device.

juiceppc said:
Uh Oh... I did not know this... Time to sell my Note. lol.
So I imagine that ATT isn't too kind to allowing people use this as a "smartphone" though. I'll have to do some sweet talking. I'll pay whatever.
Also I'll need some kind of case with a grip on it to be able to hold it up to my ear one handed. OMG this is going to be hilarious when I show people my new "cell phone". Yes I know I can get a bluetooth headset but I'll just lose it or forget to charge it or whatever. One device.
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It works fine as a phone when I put the SIM from my Galaxy Skyrocket into the 7.7. I only get 3G speeds instead of LTE, of course.

use as a phone
Jip. I use it as a phone (p6810) Voice quality is great.
Just got my Zagg Solo bluetooth keyboard and logitech bluetooth mouse. Works great as a desktop even Does everthing I need. Phone, tab, desktop
Only cons is some wifi issue and honeycomb is def laggy at times. Although after last update the performance was a lot better.
Hope they solve the wifi issues and we get ICS soon.

juiceppc said:
Uh Oh... I did not know this... Time to sell my Note. lol.
So I imagine that ATT isn't too kind to allowing people use this as a "smartphone" though. I'll have to do some sweet talking. I'll pay whatever.
Also I'll need some kind of case with a grip on it to be able to hold it up to my ear one handed. OMG this is going to be hilarious when I show people my new "cell phone". Yes I know I can get a bluetooth headset but I'll just lose it or forget to charge it or whatever. One device.
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I have been using it the past week on ATT with the prepaid go phone sim card. Everything works fine. Phone calls and data are perfect. Getting data speeds of about 4-6mbps downloads and I am in NY.
I don't think ATT will care at all if your using their prepaid. I actually don't think they will even know what kind of device it is with the prepaid.

Possibly another OTA soon arriving for International WiFi calling!

http://www.androidcentral.com/sprint-wi-fi-calling-go-international

Article didn't make it clear on whether this was an OTA or this is a behind the scenes feature that Sprint will "flip on" on their side of the network. Interesting/cool either way.

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Article didn't make it clear on whether this was an OTA or this is a behind the scenes feature that Sprint will "flip on" on their side of the network. Interesting/cool either way.
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That is actually very true. Hopefully we won't need another OTA and it will be a "behind the scenes feature" that Sprint can rollout to WiFI calling enabled phones.

Joe0113 said:
That is actually very true. Hopefully we won't need another OTA and it will be a "behind the scenes feature" that Sprint can rollout to WiFI calling enabled phones.
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It will likely be an ota to route called over WiFi rather than mobile network.
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Yeah hopefully it takes away the need to ask for location

Great if it does, but the follow up question will be whether or not they will charge int'l rates for it.
If that's a no, that's a BIG win for me.

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Great if it does, but the follow up question will be whether or not they will charge int'l rates for it.
If that's a no, that's a BIG win for me.
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That's a very good question as it wasn't mentioned that they'd be "free" or count against minutes/texts allotments in that presser. Hmmm.....I just assumed WiFi calling would be free. Let's hope.
Also, to me this seems like it would be a backend routing fix and not another OTA.

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Great if it does, but the follow up question will be whether or not they will charge int'l rates for it.
If that's a no, that's a BIG win for me.
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I'm assuming it'd be free.

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I'm assuming it'd be free.
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Why? Many VoIP providers charge for international still. Grant it they are very low rates but at some point a cross-over has to happen still.
Does AT&T, Comcast or other VoIP providers give free unlimited international calling with phone service?
That said, this probably won't require an OTA, but maybe.
Your account has a feature on it called WiFi Calling and if you drill into it the thing specifically says USA/America, my bet is they just upgrade the feature code which allows the phone to actually pass the international call.
Domestic they give free because it technically rides VoIP anyway and you using your WiFi actually helps keep half the load off the network as only the receiving party puts load on it now.
International involves other companies/parties etc. who charge for this long distance type calls.

Allow me to clarify my original point.
I think international wifi calling (from domestic to international) will not probably change. It can but not by much.
The bigger question that I have is wifi calling from international and whether this will be charged international roaming or not.
Because I'll tell you that runs up VERY quickly, especially when you don't rent a phone.

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Allow me to clarify my original point.
I think international wifi calling (from domestic to international) will not probably change. It can but not by much.
The bigger question that I have is wifi calling from international and whether this will be charged international roaming or not.
Because I'll tell you that runs up VERY quickly, especially when you don't rent a phone.
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Do you mean on a US Sprint handset WiFi calling from international WiFi location to US number (in US or in international location)? I think that'll be free.
I would bet calling from your US based number to an international number while international (ie, call hotel in Ireland while in Ireland from your Sprint WiFi phone) would cost $$ still.
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Wifi calling for T-Mobile?

Has anyone tried getting Wifi calling for T-Mobile to work? It stinks that my Nexus 6 (which I bought via Verizon) works just fine with wifi calling for T-Mobile after I switched, yet so far, the G4 (also Motorola) doesn't seem to work.

As far as I can tell, either the ROM or the phone does not support WiFi calling regardless of SIM. There is no Wifi calling option in the settings where it is on the 6p. This phone feels so amazingly stock, I would LOVE if someone could figure out WiFi calling. It is a bit of a deal breaker for me, but I'm trying to stick it out because I really like the G4 so far.

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As far as I can tell, either the ROM or the phone does not support WiFi calling regardless of SIM. There is no Wifi calling option in the settings where it is on the 6p. This phone feels so amazingly stock, I would LOVE if someone could figure out WiFi calling. It is a bit of a deal breaker for me, but I'm trying to stick it out because I really like the G4 so far.
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wtf really? I thought that wifi calling was now integrated into android....since it was in the nexus 5x and 6p. I'm on t-mobile and wifi calling is a must have (given their spotty coverage). I just got my Moto G4 yesterday but hadn't added my sim yet until I could figure out whether to de-bloat and/or unlock it, but if it doesn't have wifi calling its going to have to go back to Amazon. Might it be something that will be enabled through a Cyanogen mod rom?

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wtf really? I thought that wifi calling was now integrated into android....since it was in the nexus 5x and 6p. I'm on t-mobile and wifi calling is a must have (given their spotty coverage). I just got my Moto G4 yesterday but hadn't added my sim yet until I could figure out whether to de-bloat and/or unlock it, but if it doesn't have wifi calling its going to have to go back to Amazon. Might it be something that will be enabled through a Cyanogen mod rom?
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I'm also on T-Mobile, and in a similar boat. I'm hopeful someone will figure out how to enable it. On the plus side, this thing has EXCELLENT reception. It blows away my iPhone 6S.

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I'm also on T-Mobile, and in a similar boat. I'm hopeful someone will figure out how to enable it. On the plus side, this thing has EXCELLENT reception. It blows away my iPhone 6S.
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I second that, Great reception AND it has the 700 mhz band for new T-Mobile LTE.
Some stuff about t-mobile 700mhz LTE band devices: http://www.spectrumgateway.com/compatible-phones
Some more here about VoLTE and WiFi calling: https://www.reddit.com/r/tmobile/co...day_anybody_able_to_confirm/d59x5ed?context=2

Is there any way to find out definitively if this will or will not become available? If I'm going to return this phone I'd rather not find out later that I didn't need to do so.

brockwitting said:
I'm also on T-Mobile, and in a similar boat. I'm hopeful someone will figure out how to enable it. On the plus side, this thing has EXCELLENT reception. It blows away my iPhone 6S.
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A couple of alternatives would be google hangouts to make and receive calls on your google voice number....
2nd alternative.....install talkatone which includes a large number of free minutes for calls each month....have your google voice number ring both your phone AND the talkatone number and answer whichever one.
Just some suggestions.

famewolf said:
A couple of alternatives would be google hangouts to make and receive calls on your google voice number....
2nd alternative.....install talkatone which includes a large number of free minutes for calls each month....have your google voice number ring both your phone AND the talkatone number and answer whichever one.
Just some suggestions.
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Yeah, I've thought about doing that, but I want to be able to get calls from the number everyone has for me seamlessly without having to give out a second number. It works flawlessly on my 2013 iphone 5s (which is barely hanging in there after taking a drink in the neighbor's pool and getting a subsequent rice bath) and I just want it to work on a 2016 Android phone.

ttttubby said:
Is there any way to find out definitively if this will or will not become available? If I'm going to return this phone I'd rather not find out later that I didn't need to do so.
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Last year's Moto X Pure never got WiFi calling, so I don't expect the G4 to get it.

xtermmin said:
Last year's Moto X Pure never got WiFi calling, so I don't expect the G4 to get it.
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Feels like it should have. If Apple can do it. Android should be able to do it too yes?

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Feels like it should have. If Apple can do it. Android should be able to do it too yes?
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Android can do it fine, the Nexus 5X and 6P can do TMO WiFi Calling, guess Moto just doesn't want to bother with it.

Many retail mobiles have "Wifi Calling" function but not any menu entry to enable , The APP can check the hidden function and enable it if can use.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.widget7.wifi.calling