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[Q] Samsung Tab Tethering

I am a newbie Android addict (ditched my iphone for Samsung Captivate w/AT&T) and LOVE it. I'm also new to this site so please forgive if this has already been covered but I couldn't find it.
I would love to get the new Samsung Tab as soon as it hits the U.S. market but no way do I want to pay for an additional data plan. Will there be a way to tether the tablet to my Captivate? And if so, how? I am desperate for an answer. Please, please someone tell me if this is possible or not? Thanks in advance!
Robin

what will happen is you are going to have to pay full price.. 649 for one with no contract. You can root it (captivate) and tether via wifi using tether app.... then when it (the Tab) gets modded to use voice (which I plan on) then you can mod that rom on and then put your sim into the TAb..
pretty much my plan except on tmobile.. and i would be tethering with my g1

This also is my plan, but on AT&T and tethered to my Aria. But this depends on whether or not the required phone hardware is installed on the US version and can be accessed with rooted ROM.

no6969el said:
what will happen is you are going to have to pay full price.. 649 for one with no contract. You can root it (captivate) and tether via wifi using tether app.... then when it (the Tab) gets modded to use voice (which I plan on) then you can mod that rom on and then put your sim into the TAb..
pretty much my plan except on tmobile.. and i would be tethering with my g1
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Hm? Is it confirmed that the US version would still have voice capability? Last I heard someone was suggesting to wait for people to take it apart to make sure the hardwares are all there.

dliao said:
Hm? Is it confirmed that the US version would still have voice capability? Last I heard someone was suggesting to wait for people to take it apart to make sure the hardwares are all there.
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AFAIK there will be WiFi-only and 3G version in various different flavours, as well as a CDMA version for Sprints aging technology.

dliao said:
Hm? Is it confirmed that the US version would still have voice capability? Last I heard someone was suggesting to wait for people to take it apart to make sure the hardwares are all there.
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If it can do 3g data I don't see how the hardware can not be there.
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knightnz said:
AFAIK there will be WiFi-only and 3G version in various different flavours, as well as a CDMA version for Sprints aging technology.
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Indeed
If you aren't going to use the data line, then tbh I'd just wait for the wifi only version. No reason to pay extra for something you won't use. You will still be able to use the wireless AP on the captivate to tether.

clubtech said:
If it can do 3g data I don't see how the hardware can not be there.
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Did you ever make a cellular voice call from a 3G-equipped laptop? No? Well thats because there is no audio in/out from the 3G module in a laptop. The wires are not there. Its definitely possible for Samsung to neuter the tab in that way if they want to...

Yes, it CAN double as a phone!!!! (Quick Look)

For anyone who is wondering whether or not the 7.7 (specifically the P6800) can be used as a GSM phone, well here is your definitive answer with video proof from yours truly. Enjoy!

Thanks, for the video. I look foward to receving mine.

Thanks for the video. You just made my decision on buying one much easier.
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Zed? They say zed in Virginia? Is it a suburb of Canada or something?

Paten said:
Zed? They say zed in Virginia? Is it a suburb of Canada or something?
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Latent Britishism of mine. Used to live in the UK you see.

I wonder if the radio from either the T-mobile Galaxy Tab 10.1 or 7.0 Plus can be used to enable voice and 3G data on the T-mobile US network on this tab. Just a thought.

Paten said:
I wonder if the radio from either the T-mobile Galaxy Tab 10.1 or 7.0 Plus can be used to enable voice and 3G data on the T-mobile US network on this tab. Just a thought.
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I would say probably not. I have discussed this at length over in the GNote forum.
Long story short, even if the chipset does have a 1700AWS feature, enabled by some modified modem.bin or whatever, the device itself is very unlikely to have the antenna necessary for picking up that frequency. So basically, you'll either get very poor 3G signal, or none at all.
For Americans, as much as it sucks, my suggestion when using international devices is this:
Listen carefully. Are you listening? Good!
AVOID CARRIERS WHICH USE PROPRIETARY FREQUENCIES AND/OR TECHNOLOGIES
So that rules out T-Mobile, or any MVNO that uses T-Mobile (like SIMple Mobile), and that rules out EVERY CDMA carrier.
So yeah, if you're importing international devices, you're basically left with only one option: AT&T (or any AT&T MVNO). And people think it isn't a monopoly? HA!!!

I'm not listening.

Jade Eyed Wolf said:
For anyone who is wondering whether or not the 7.7 (specifically the P6800) can be used as a GSM phone, well here is your definitive answer with video proof from yours truly. Enjoy!
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I am wondering if my P6810 WiFi only device can use Gmail's Call Phone option?
I have used Call Phone on my laptop when traveling and it works great to make free calls within the U.S.
If not I guess I can use Skype or QIK or even Google Talk?
Yeah I know, why not buy the P6800? Well cost for one thing and also I have a T-Mobile "MiFi" hotspot that is pay as you go. So if I am traveling I top off the hotspot with data/time and I am good to go. Put the little thing my my pocket and connect to my tablet via 4G.
Note: I have not yet received my Tab from Negri , it is due to arrive on 1/26/12

DuhDroid said:
I am wondering if my P6810 WiFi only device can use Gmail's Call Phone option?
I have used Call Phone on my laptop when traveling and it works great to make free calls within the U.S.
If not I guess I can use Skype or QIK or even Google Talk?
Yeah I know, why not buy the P6800? Well cost for one thing and also I have a T-Mobile "MiFi" hotspot that is pay as you go. So if I am traveling I top off the hotspot with data/time and I am good to go. Put the little thing my my pocket and connect to my tablet via 4G.
Note: I have not yet received my Tab from Negri , it is due to arrive on 1/26/12
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GrooveIP will let you make calls with your Google Voice account via WiFi. Great little app.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.gvoip&hl=en

Sweet! I will check it out...thanks for the link.

Couldn't have been easier..
I finally put my AT&T sim card in my tab yesterday..
Now I got it from Negri on the 6th & set up my wifi..
Set up my email.. all is cool..
Went & did an OTA update... all cool.. no probs...
Then I stuffed in the sim card..
Immediately after re-booting... I made and received phone calls..!!!
I didn't have to do any settings at all..
So I tried sending myself a txt message... sent and received within a few seconds..
I didn't have to do any APN settings at all like I had to do in my GNote..
Then sent and received mms too!! success..
Web pages loaded fast.. although I cant find any icons that say 3g or H or H+...
Only super tiny green arrows going up and down near the clock on bottom right..
My contacts from my sim card were there too..
AGAIN.. I DID NOT have to do any APN settings..Somehow it knew and did it all for me... wap. cingular...etc.....
Super success!!!

jimmbomb said:
Couldn't have been easier..
I finally put my AT&T sim card in my tab yesterday..
Now I got it from Negri on the 6th & set up my wifi..
Set up my email.. all is cool..
Went & did an OTA update... all cool.. no probs...
Then I stuffed in the sim card..
Immediately after re-booting... I made and received phone calls..!!!
I didn't have to do any settings at all..
So I tried sending myself a txt message... sent and received within a few seconds..
I didn't have to do any APN settings at all like I had to do in my GNote..
Then sent and received mms too!! success..
Web pages loaded fast.. although I cant find any icons that say 3g or H or H+...
Only super tiny green arrows going up and down near the clock on bottom right..
My contacts from my sim card were there too..
AGAIN.. I DID NOT have to do any APN settings..Somehow it knew and did it all for me... wap. cingular...etc.....
Super success!!!
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What kind of battery life are you seeing? Are you using as your primary phone? I get mine tomorrow and plan to try this myself. Just a bit anxious!!

mklpickle said:
What kind of battery life are you seeing? Are you using as your primary phone? I get mine tomorrow and plan to try this myself. Just a bit anxious!!
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Phenomenal battery. Easy get through a full day with room to spare, even with screen at 100%. Using as primary phone as well. You can talk on the thing for over 24 hours straight, and still not run down the battery all the way. No joke!

Well it does say 49hrs of talk time in 2G mode and 27hrs in 3G so the battery life is gonna be phenomenal when it comes to taking calls.

Want to see how it looks when holding that tablet to your ears?
Watch this http://youtu.be/Lnqs5zMDtRc
phoning starts at 2:40

Polarfuchs said:
Want to see how it looks when holding that tablet to your ears?
Watch this http://youtu.be/Lnqs5zMDtRc
phoning starts at 2:40
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And that right there is precisely the reason I bought an HM5000!

T-mo wifi calling?

Wondering if the device will support t-mo's wifi calling app. That's pretty much the deciding factor for me.****ty coverage where I am and I need it. I would buy the one from the play store, but the issue is if it's an app it may be firmware specific to the T-mo sold one maybe? I'm not sure how it'll work but has anyone heard anything? Really wanna get this launch day

I don't know about the Nexus 4 or t-mo's wifi calling but I use my Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 WiFi only to make calls using GrooVe IP Lite for free it should work with an unlocked Nexas 4 also I would think without even having a regular phone connection like t-mobile.

miker525 said:
Wondering if the device will support t-mo's wifi calling app. That's pretty much the deciding factor for me.****ty coverage where I am and I need it. I would buy the one from the play store, but the issue is if it's an app it may be firmware specific to the T-mo sold one maybe? I'm not sure how it'll work but has anyone heard anything? Really wanna get this launch day
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Until now the T-Mobile WiFi Calling app required a radio/kernel combination that maybe only the T-Mobile version might have … Having said that since both would be pretty similar after getting kernel source from both it could be ported later on the near future … Unless T-Mobile its not planning on supporting it OR goes the Skype route and re-writes the app all together …..

donec said:
I don't know about the Nexus 4 or t-mo's wifi calling but I use my Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 WiFi only to make calls using GrooVe IP Lite for free it should work with an unlocked Nexas 4 also I would think without even having a regular phone connection like t-mobile.
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Agreed. Use groove ip.
Hit me up on Gtalk if u need help @musclehead84

Nope this isn't going to happen. Nexus devices don't come preloaded with any additional software and/or features.
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If it has the hardware compatibility then it could simply be enabled via an app on the play store. I have also read it dependent on the kernel so maybe its something the t-mobile version would be including with their own nexus 4's and the app download would activate it. Which means some XDA hackery and a kernel flash could remedy all the play store purchasers on T-mobile. Here to hoping. Overall though based on the Nexus privy, its not likely.

watermoore said:
If it has the hardware compatibility then it could simply be enabled via an app on the play store. I have also read it dependent on the kernel so maybe its something the t-mobile version would be including with their own nexus 4's and the app download would activate it. Which means some XDA hackery and a kernel flash could remedy all the play store purchasers on T-mobile. Here to hoping. Overall though based on the Nexus privy, its not likely.
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T-Mobile's version is NOT modified at all, in any way, zero, nothing. They will hand you an identical device that someone who ordered through the Play Store will get.

http://www.tmonews.com/2012/10/psa-sorry-everyone-no-wi-fi-calling-on-the-nexus-4/
According to tmonews, as expected there won't be wifi calling

There won't be wifi calling, and this is a good thing. If they allowed T-mobile to tweak the firmware, and add their own bloatware, this would no longer be a Nexus device!

rmkilc said:
There won't be wifi calling, and this is a good thing. If they allowed T-mobile to tweak the firmware, and add their own bloatware, this would no longer be a Nexus device!
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Disagree.... would be nice if we could at least download WifiCalling from Market... I've made infrequent use of WifiCalling on my Sensation4G.. but the times I did use it, it was a significant help. I care more about this than SD slot or removable battery. Hopefully it is something which some DEV can get to work (once there is a TMo phone with JB version.

zim2dive said:
Disagree.... would be nice if we could at least download WifiCalling from Market... I've made infrequent use of WifiCalling on my Sensation4G.. but the times I did use it, it was a significant help. I care more about this than SD slot or removable battery. Hopefully it is something which some DEV can get to work (once there is a TMo phone with JB version.
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Sounds more like you agree. Yeah if T-Mobile could make something you download from Google Play that enables wifi calling, that would be great. Love it or hate it, it's not going to be baked into the ROM. Google learned from letting Verizon have control over their Galaxy Nexus.

unfortunately seems right. With the question I didn't mean if tmo would modify the phone, I love nexus because there free of ****wear, but the wifi calling app is something I'd still have loved to see. Was hoping they'd bring to play store or something. Now I'm really at an impass though. At college with not much coverage and wanted this phone bad, but without wifi calling using the phone may be somewhat of an issue. Yeah I could use GrooVip but I'm not sure if that's really good enough. Maybe I'll give it a go. If it sucks I can switch to att at the end of my contract and use the same device to hopefully get service.

miker525 said:
unfortunately seems right. With the question I didn't mean if tmo would modify the phone, I love nexus because there free of ****wear, but the wifi calling app is something I'd still have loved to see. Was hoping they'd bring to play store or something. Now I'm really at an impass though. At college with not much coverage and wanted this phone bad, but without wifi calling using the phone may be somewhat of an issue. Yeah I could use GrooVip but I'm not sure if that's really good enough. Maybe I'll give it a go. If it sucks I can switch to att at the end of my contract and use the same device to hopefully get service.
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GRoove sucks, there is a delay that you can't get rid of. Okay in a pinch but not worthy of real use

T-Mo fail!!!
http://www.tmonews.com/2012/10/psa-sorry-everyone-no-wi-fi-calling-on-the-nexus-4/

Lucke said:
T-Mo fail!!!
http://www.tmonews.com/2012/10/psa-sorry-everyone-no-wi-fi-calling-on-the-nexus-4/
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How is that a T-Mobile fail?

rmkilc said:
How is that a T-Mobile fail?
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apparently, T-Mo is taking a functionality away from their own store bought phones, as opposed to the Google Play Store purchased phones. That is a fail (along with the pricing debacle, ie, paying more to be locked into a contract).
but i don't have T-Mo, so i don't really care :victory:
*EDIT* and apparently i jumped the gun and am completely wrong about this whole situation... oops

Lucke said:
apparently, T-Mo is taking a functionality away from their own store bought phones, as opposed to the Google Play Store purchased phones. That is a fail (along with the pricing debacle, ie, paying more to be locked into a contract).
but i don't have T-Mo, so i don't really care :victory:
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It is not a fail. They are selling a Nexus device. Nexus devices are pure Android, no added carrier bloatware.

No wifi calling is a deal killer for me.
It is not something that could ever be downloaded from the play store because of the way it works. It needs to interface with the radio at a low level. If TMO doesnt do it, it will never be added to the phone.
This is not a piece of "bloatware" for TMO users. This is a very very useful function which cannot technically be done any other way. An exception should have been made.

bradsh1 said:
No wifi calling is a deal killer for me.
It is not something that could ever be downloaded from the play store because of the way it works. It needs to interface with the radio at a low level. If TMO doesnt do it, it will never be added to the phone.
This is not a piece of "bloatware" for TMO users. This is a very very useful function which cannot technically be done any other way. An exception should have been made.
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You are under the assumption "bloatware" = "something bad". Some bloatware can be good, or useful. If you need TMO's wifi calling feature, a Nexus device is not for you. Get a Galaxy S III or something that T-Mobile was able to get their hands on the software and add their own here it comes-bloatware!

Argh.. yes I forgot... I do use WiFi calling in buildings sometimes.. the reception is so bad on the cell radio, its the only way to get calls sometimes... this is not a trivial thing to lose

AT&T?

So I'm currently using the Motorola Atrix on AT&T and I will be selling it for the N4. I was just wondering if I will have any problems using it with at&t or something. My contract ends in 5 months and I will be going prepaid after that. Thanks.

No problems, other than you won't have LTE. You have to set the APN manually as well, before data works. But calling works right off the bat

I wonder if it will work on Medianet, or if At&t will flag them all right away.

jacklebott said:
No problems, other than you won't have LTE. You have to set the APN manually as well, before data works. But calling works right off the bat
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I would be surprised if Google didn't add AT&T's APN by default. Surely you aren't correct about this (not that it matters).

You will also need to pay $27 to get your sim changed to a micro sim... (EVEN if you buy it before hand...)

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I would be surprised if Google didn't add AT&T's APN by default. Surely you aren't correct about this (not that it matters).
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he is...

tory13579 said:
You will also need to pay $27 to get your sim changed to a micro sim... (EVEN if you buy it before hand...)
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Really? Dang I thought they would give it for free
Also, I will also be upgrading from the atrix to the nexus 4 too.
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why would anyone would use this phone on att instead of t-mobile ? att hspa+ is so slow its not even funny ...

kiy0shix24 said:
Really? Dang I thought they would give it for free
Also, I will also be upgrading from the atrix to the nexus 4 too.
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When I switched from the HTC One X to the Galaxy Nexus they gave me the new SIM for free.

kiy0shix24 said:
Really? Dang I thought they would give it for free
Also, I will also be upgrading from the atrix to the nexus 4 too.
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They will replace your SIM for free if you go to an official AT&T store. If you go to an "AT&T Authorized Retailer", then they may or may not do it for free.
Go here: http://www.att.com/storelocator/
Look at locations near you, and go to one that says "AT&T" and not one that says "AT&T Authorized Retailer", and you should be good.

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why would anyone would use this phone on att instead of t-mobile ? att hspa+ is so slow its not even funny ...
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really? this has to be the dumbest question ever. maybe some people, like me, are locked into a contract. maybe some people, like me, don't want to lose the "unlimited data". maybe some people actually get better reception for phone calls with AT&T in their area.
did you ever stop to think about some basic things like this before you just spouted off nonsense? yeah... didn't think so.

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why would anyone would use this phone on att instead of t-mobile ? att hspa+ is so slow its not even funny ...
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lol yeah okay because I'm sure T-Mobile's HSPA+ will defiantly get you 42Mbps all the time. Those are theoretical speeds... HSPA+ is HSPA+
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really? this has to be the dumbest question ever. maybe some people, like me, are locked into a contract. maybe some people, like me, don't want to lose the "unlimited data". maybe some people actually get better reception for phone calls with AT&T in their area.
did you ever stop to think about some basic things like this before you just spouted off nonsense? yeah... didn't think so.
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E-X-A-C-T-L-Y. I am on AT&T too, and yup. On a contract, I have unlimited data, and my area gets pretty decent-great reception, so HSPA+ even at 21Mbps will do me well. And the point that it is unlocked, and it being a high spec phone for 299-349 $ blows my mind. Selling my S3 for this! I don't even have LTE in my area, so its al good! Gotta love a nexus! Pure Vanilla Android at its best.

iamfightaa said:
why would anyone would use this phone on att instead of t-mobile ? att hspa+ is so slow its not even funny ...
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Many places, Tmo service simply does not work. I know of three people in last year who returned Tmo phones because they couldn't make calls from their house. It's great if they have the coverage, but...

Yes if you go to a att store they should give you one for free. They gave me one when I bought the gs3 off contract. He just asked if I needed a sim I said sure and it was quick and free.
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geoldr said:
Yes if you go to a att store they should give you one for free. They gave me one when I bought the gs3 off contract. He just asked if I needed a sim I said sure and it was quick and free.
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^ this is good info. I just called the att STORE down the road and they said just come in and they will give it to me free.
The deal is, I'm a paying customer. They don't give a shyte about anything else. Especially when Someone like me can just change to straight talk and walk away..
This aint my first rodeo.

Why to not buy the AT&T phone for TMO

I've seen some threads abound for people asking if the AT&T version works on T-Mobile and while it does there are some things that you should know before making that plunge even though you might be able to save $50.
First the good. If you've already done this that's fine. All bands for operation on T-mobile are on the AT&T variant. So no issues there. Don't feel like me making this thread means your device won't work.
If you're weighing what you lose in this scenario:
- You'll need to buy an unlock code, or at least find one, to switch it over. While these codes are cheap it's still chipping away at that small discount you got to buy the AT&T version instead of the TMO one.
- VoLTE support. While it's not enabled yet, it will come shortly and AT&T phones won't have the right radio and framework to make this work on TMO.
- QI Charging - in case you've been living under a rock in these forums, the AT&T model utilizes the basically non-existant powermat charging method and they have disabled the ability to use a QI wireless charger. Supposedly this is at the hardware level so this isn't something that can be fixed with a patch or custom ROM if true.
- No WiFi calling. Self explanatory. AT&T doesn't have/use this technology.
- locked bootloader. Now this may change over time with the amazing devs that we have but should you accidentally relock it or get a replacement phone because your old one got lost/broken you may have a newer bootloader than the one that could be bypassed previously. Better to just not deal with it.
Now for those looking to go the other way (TMO device on AT&T) that's fine. Just know that the tmo version is missing the 850mhz LTE band. Not that big a deal though as they don't really use that band much but it is a difference.
If anyone can think of anything else I missed feel free to chime in. Or if anyone has any general thoughts.

Wifi calling? Thats a thing?
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Wifi calling? Thats a thing?
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Yep. Works great when I'm out of the country and want to call someone here without being charged for international calling.

Slash8915 said:
Yep. Works great when I'm out of the country and want to call someone here without being charged for international calling.
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yeah, looking forward to using this when we travel... too bad the reverse isn't free.
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Yep. Works great when I'm out of the country and want to call someone here without being charged for international calling.
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And anywhere you don't get great reception. My work is basically a giant steel cage so everyone's service sucks in here but Wifi incoming and outgoing calls work like a charm. Basements etc are also good areas to use it
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yeah, looking forward to using this when we travel... too bad the reverse isn't free.
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It's not? I get incoming and outgoing calls all the time on mine.

arcanexvi said:
And anywhere you don't get great reception. My work is basically a giant steel cage so everyone's service sucks in here but Wifi incoming and outgoing calls work like a charm. Basements etc are also good areas to use it
It's not? I get incoming and outgoing calls all the time on mine.
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According to T-mo it's 20 cents/min to call international through WiFi. makes sense since the call has to be routed to cellular on the other side. I guess an exception would be if the recipient also has WiFi calling.
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Does the AT&T LG G3 support WCDMA on the Band 4/AWS band?