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Wifi Calling uses plan minutes?

So I installed one of the two 2.2 builds out, and Wifi Calling works. It says that is uses the plan minutes. Is this correct? If so, what good is wifi calling?

jzero88 said:
So I installed one of the two 2.2 builds out, and Wifi Calling works. It says that is uses the plan minutes. Is this correct? If so, what good is wifi calling?
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It's for if you are in an area that has no cell reception but you have WiFi, yes it uses minutes.

Ok thanks for the info. That sucks, wish you could use wifi calling like VOIP

jzero88 said:
Ok thanks for the info. That sucks, wish you could use wifi calling like VOIP
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If that were the case, you'd never use any minutes ever. LOL
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Skype works on the 2.2 builds.... it's still an annoyingly crappy app, but it works.

Lol...that will never be released by any cell carrier. Tmobile just wants to make sure you have the ability to use as many of your mins as possible.

cappysw10 said:
If that were the case, you'd never use any minutes ever. LOL
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This is how the uma wifi calling on my blackberry worked. I don't see the problem with it. You're still paying for a minute plan, and someone's paying for the internet you're using to make calls. There's rarely a time where I'm in an area that can get high speed internet service but not cell service. I do see the usefulness though, but it's not quite as cool of a feature when it uses your minutes.

lol. I also thought that wifi calling won't be using any of your minutes.
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And I was going I to cancel my cell plan and only pay for data

Personally I love it and was really hoping it would come to the Vibrant. The reception at my house is spotty, so this will help immensely. I'm glad that it's a free add on, and they're minutes I would have been using anyway so no big deal.

Ahhh, I thought it didn't use your minutes aswell. I thought it was just like the blackberry uma... oh well.
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sano614 said:
Ahhh, I thought it didn't use your minutes aswell. I thought it was just like the blackberry uma... oh well.
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UMA on my blackberry always used minutes.
If you have a T-mobile USA plan and you are in Europe connected via Wifi, are your plan minutes counted as if you are in the USA or are you charged international minutes?

FreydNot said:
UMA on my blackberry always used minutes.
If you have a T-mobile USA plan and you are in Europe connected via Wifi, are your plan minutes counted as if you are in the USA or are you charged international minutes?
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Last time I have read about it, it was free. People stopped talking about it, since T-mobile did not support the feature anymore.

FreydNot said:
UMA on my blackberry always used minutes.
If you have a T-mobile USA plan and you are in Europe connected via Wifi, are your plan minutes counted as if you are in the USA or are you charged international minutes?
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Last time I have read about it, it was free. People stopped talking about it, since T-mobile did not support the feature anymore.
Nevermind!
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php/1618892-Overseas-UMA-calls-now-being-billed-as-roaming?daysprune=365

Im excited about the feature cause I have no cell signal at work (at all)
Will it work for ATT users though?

T-Mobile used to give you the option of paying an extra $9.99 per month for unlimited Wi-fi calling. They took that away so wifi (or UMA) calling uses your minutes. It is still helpful to me for overseas or certain areas that have spotty T-mobile coverage. I travel a lot and it comes up. Which is one reason I've held onto my old blackberry for when I travel. Now that the Vibrant is getting this feature I can finally ditch that thing.

maybe I am blessed But
i use and pay for a no contract unlimited plan, Since then my recurring costs are a constant 75 month. That really is not that much, unless you are really really broke. I use this phone for EVERYTHING and 75 month. I do like the wifi hookup I have used my phone in reverse to call (call on my computer using tethering) and that works very well. But I just did it to make sure i could, BTW I called out of the country........ and still 75 month

mhseraph said:
Im excited about the feature cause I have no cell signal at work (at all)
Will it work for ATT users though?
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Do you have to have it enabled during? Like If I'm at work and I have bad cell reception, should I just turn it on? I guess I'm asking is there some automatic way to switch back and forth?
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Looks like if you leave it on, under connection prefs you choose "Cellular Preferred" which calls will route through wifi if there is no cell service...

How would this work out in another country? If I travel to say Europe or Australia and have a WiFi connection can I call from my US number to other US numbers? Can I receive calls to my US number?

NWolf said:
How would this work out in another country? If I travel to say Europe or Australia and have a WiFi connection can I call from my US number to other US numbers? Can I receive calls to my US number?
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Yes. Basically wifi essentially becomes an US T-Mobile tower.
Wi-Fi calling/UMA is one of those features that make or break a phone for me. I have ZERO T-Mobile service at home. My current main phone (BB8700) has UMA so I get perfect reception in my house, top floor or basement.

I am LOVING the wifi calling!

That OTA update came just in the nick of time. I pushed it myself after I read about how to do it and still hadn't received the update. I left for Manila on Friday the 12th and have been loving the wifi calling here!! It has been a life saver in terms of paying for international calling. There is zero lag and the call sounds just as good as if I were on the network in the states. I can't really imagine a use for it while in the country since it still takes minutes, but I guess if you are in an area without TMobile but yet still has a wifi connection with a fast enough speed to carry the call, then it could be useful. I just don't know where that place is... All I can tell you is that it has been working amazingly well in the Philippians and I have been able to make and receive calls without interruption all week. My colleagues who have needed to pack an extra phone with international calling abilities have been absolutely green with envy as I'm still able to do business easily in the office without needing to be on a landline or paying extra to use my cell phone in the hotel. What a great innovation!!! Even texting has worked just as if I were still in the states. Everybody I call and text have had a hard time remembering that I'm out of the country since it is still not totally normal to be receiving calls and texts from the same US number even though I'm abroad.
Anyway, I thought I'd share. I tried it while I was in the states, but didn't know if the clarity or quality of the call was influenced by being near the TMobile network anyway. I can tell you for sure that it is a great thing with no downside. You do need more than just a wifi signal though. If the signal isn't strong enough then the phone won't register to the TMobile network and it won't work. Oddly enough, when it says the signal isn't strong enough to make calls, they still come in just fine. Maybe just a couple bugs to work out, but this has definitely made me glad I went with TMobile and not Sprint when I was shopping for a new Android.

Are you sure you're not still paying for international calling? I thought T-Mo was going to charge you.
As for "getting an international phone", the G2 probably could have been unlocked (barring S-OFF issues) to work with the GSM there just fine.
I just took my G1 to Australia after getting the unlock code from T-Mo, and it worked great there, 3G with an Australian SIM.

dancingwombat said:
Are you sure you're not still paying for international calling? I thought T-Mo was going to charge you.
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I remember someone on this forum confirming that if you use Wi-Fi calling, your phone is treated as though it's roaming in the states, which makes it extremely useful for those who commute internationally, like the OP.

Does wifi calling/texting count as data charge (becouse if it does, I'll be able to text for free anywhere there is wifi)
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WiFi Calling feature uses plan minutes and plan txt messages... there are no extra charges unless you go over your limit

I was unaware it used plan minutes. Sounds pointless now unless I have bad signal in the house

greengoldmello said:
I was unaware it used plan minutes. Sounds pointless now unless I have bad signal in the house
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As soon as you turn it on, it says it uses plan minutes.
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Yeah, unless you just don't get a good signal in your house, there isn't much point to the wifi calling since it still uses your plan minutes. From here it works just like I'm in my office at home. I can call and text local numbers without having to dial any other weird country codes or anything. And people at home don't even need to know I'm out of the country since they just call my number and my phone rings just like normal.
Typically I have just used skype to call for free computer to computer since using it to call a phone number costs money. But now I can use the wifi and that is so much better! However, my hotel doesn't allow the phone to register with Tmobile, so some servers are going to put the kabosh on using this type of thing. I'm just wondering if it would work from the plane when I'm flying domestically and have the wifi available to me... FCC regulations prohibit using a phone during flight even if you are connected to wifi, so it doesn't really matter I guess.

Delta105RUS said:
Does wifi calling/texting count as data charge (becouse if it does, I'll be able to text for free anywhere there is wifi)
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The texting still counts as texting and not as a data charge. So it basically just uses whatever you already have on your plan. If you are out of text messages or minutes, then you will get charged for going over just like usual. I've got an unlimited plan for all that, so it isn't something I really keep track of.

dancingwombat said:
Are you sure you're not still paying for international calling? I thought T-Mo was going to charge you.
As for "getting an international phone", the G2 probably could have been unlocked (barring S-OFF issues) to work with the GSM there just fine.
I just took my G1 to Australia after getting the unlock code from T-Mo, and it worked great there, 3G with an Australian SIM.
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I'm sure it could have been, but that is why I'm glad the wifi calling update came when it did. It saved me the trouble of needing to do it. Anytime I've been away from the office where I haven't had a wifi signal to attach to has been times when I don't really want to talk on the phone anyway. Especially here... I really don't want people seeing me with a G2 in my hand when it is a pretty lusted after phone here. Everything is uber cheap here, but I was at a less than legitimate item mall yesterday and they had a G2 in the same case as an iPad. I can get a 32GB ipad for less than a G2 here.

Using evo in europe?

Hopefully someone can answer this. Is there a way for my evo to run correctly in europe (england and france)?
I know sprint offers phones and plans that you can "rent", but id like to run my evo.
Any ideas?
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I have heard people say that you can get on CDMA networks overseas, but that it will cost you an arm and a leg. Many people seem to prefer using some VOIP solution and wifi access. Unfortunately we aren't on a GSM phone where you could purchase a cheap SIM card for a little bit of usage.

Answer: NO.
Why: CDMA (the technology that Sprint, Verizon, and MetroPCS use) is only used in North America, and certain parts of Asia (namely, Japan and China each have a carrier or two that use it). GSM is used everywhere else.
The EVO has CDMA and WiMax. It does not have GSM.

I'm not sure how Skype works on Android (haven't tried it). But assuming Skype works somehow, couldn't you just latch onto some sort of wifi?

Can't use the EVO to make actual cellular phone calls in Europe. Like stated above, the EVO is a CDMA phone and the only standard used there is GSM. You can however, use the EVO for just about everything else while you are there. My brother just came back from France last week and he was there for a month so before he went we had to figure out what we could do with our EVO's while he was there and I was in the US. When you are there turn on "airplane mode" and leave it like that the whole time you are there. This way, the phone isn't draining battery power trying to search for a CDMA tower to connect to.
The main thing is you will NEED TO HAVE WI-FI access to do anything I'm describing below.
I used to Tikl, push to talk app to keep in contact with my brother. I didn't have much luck using Qik, but I was able ooVoo to do video chat with him. I was still able to use Google Lattitude to see where he was at. His GPS actually worked there also. It was not as fast like here in the US but he was able to find his location.
My sister is in Manchester, England right now with her EVO the same thing applies there also. I do seem to notice that public wi-fi access is much more readily available in England than France. Today I "Lattituded" while she was at some hookah bar and was able to do video chat with everyone there while I was sitting at home in Iowa.
If you are currently using some kind of VOIP app now, make sure all the people you want to be in contact with are using it too. For a psuedo SMS app we used "Whatsapp" to handle our overseas text messaging since it uses internet rather than cellular service.
Hope this helps.

GPS will work anywhere.. it is a satilite signal..
the only issue will be the map you need to use with that signal.
why it is taking longer.. you have moble networkturned off. they phone use moble network to get quick read on you. the GPS is to fine tune you down to with in 9 meters or so.

Just went to France and ROME this past Sept. My evo was a paper weight. I just used it for the time & to take pictures...

J-Bert said:
Hopefully someone can answer this. Is there a way for my evo to run correctly in europe (england and france)?
I know sprint offers phones and plans that you can "rent", but id like to run my evo.
Any ideas?
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Just get a Sprint world phone from eBay. HTC PRO2 for like 100 buck. There are cheaper ones also. Then take it to sprint to get a sim card. It will work anywhere in Europe. When you get to Europe buy a cheap prepaid sim card to get a local number if thats what you want. Also tell Sprint to unlock it. They will since there is no contract on it. When you get back just switch back to your EVO.

no way to get evo working in Europe since there is no CDMA network
U can use skype+wifi hotspot there, tons and tons are FREE!!!

You can also get a google-voice number, a sipgate account, and add the sipgate number to google voice, then install a sip-compatible client on the evo. (Fring does work). People will be able to call your google-voice number and it will RING on wifi.
... though I do think Skype has a plan that gives you a number, I don't know what it costs.

Galaxy Tab 10.1 Calls and SMS

Tomorow my tablet will arive, i searched forums and some peoples said that can call using the sim from tablet others no.
Can i use the sim from tablet for calling?

I remember someone being able to make calls with it. I'll look around.

Ok 10ks, on youtube i found that 8.9 is able for calling. I would like to have my table in front of me and talking from my 3000 minutes of free talking

sebyku said:
Ok 10ks, on youtube i found that 8.9 is able for calling. I would like to have my table in front of me and talking from my 3000 minutes of free talking
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I have 3G 8.9
No GSM calling.
Sorry

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZ9RNhJAgjE
Look man ... I think he is using the network ... see on display the Phone Icon

sebyku said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZ9RNhJAgjE
Look man ... I think he is using the network ... see on display the Phone Icon
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The original 3G 7" Tab was always able to make phone calls. It looks like the 7+ (the Tab in the video) is able to also. There was a video of a pre-release 8.9 with calling features but it never made it in to production. ICS is rumored to support GSM calling. We'll have to wait and see.

Ok, I can't find where I saw it at, but I really didn't look that hard.

I have been using Google Voice for about 3 years now. If you have Google Voice coupled with the app GrooveIP you can make calls easy with your tab ( I have 10.1). For texting I just use the GV widget and app. Its awesome and I save minutes using wifi. Since I have GV I use the lowest plan for me and my wife (she uses it too cause I Make her ) 730 minutes I believe a month shared between us.

Here I have this plan:
- 3000 minutes in my network
- unlimited sms
-75 sms & 75 minutes in other networks
-150 MB internet
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All for 5 euro
So if i can`t use my sim from the tab i must choose something else?!

sebyku said:
-150 MB internet
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I can blow through 150MB in an hour.

I know Internet MB amount sucks here so no one found if i can call from my tablet using sim?

When we can make phone calls via network, I would be very happy about it, too.
Because I have a plan consist 1000min in my network which I'm wasting. Happily I can use my 3000sms to any network and surely my 1000mb data.
Today one of my friend who very like my P7500 bought one P7300 and it doesn't have any phone app or so, too. It was sad to see that. In every preview before devices hit the stores, we've been told it will be able to make phone calls like original Galaxy Tab (P1000) but when we can buy it we saw there is nothing like that... But I'm still positively hoping that we can make phone call like P1000.

that's mean there is still unable to make call by using p7500??...i am still waiting for this features.....quite dissapointed if cant make call just like p1000

So ... does anyone succesfull called from galaxy tab 10.1 ore figured out how?

sebyku said:
So ... does anyone succesfull called from galaxy tab 10.1 ore figured out how?
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No, you can't make calls on the P7300 or P7500. It's been asked and answered a dozen times. It does support MMS.

sebyku said:
So ... does anyone succesfull called from galaxy tab 10.1 ore figured out how?
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Yep i am on 7510 and have been making free phone calls. 2 ways to do it
Sign up and get a phone number from google voice then download grooveIP and use the google voice account to log on and start making calls
Second way download text+ and its latest version support both phone calls and SMS
Caveat is i am in the US may not work in other countries but give it a try
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animatechnica said:
Yep i am on 7510 and have been making free phone calls.
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He's talking about using the imbedded GSM radio in the P7300 and P7500 to make actual carrier-based calls using the phone number already assigned to the device. The Tab 7, 7+, and 7.7 allow this but it's not available in other Tabs with the same h/w. It might change with ICS but no one knows.

Can the SGT 7.7 double as a phone?

Can the SGT 7.7 double as a phone? Does it have a sim card slot 3G?

darkhunter21 said:
Can the SGT 7.7 double as a phone? Does it have a sim card slot 3G?
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Yes, and yes.
Of course I'm talking about the P6800 here, and not the P6810, which is the WiFi-only version.
If you're hoping that the Verizon 7.7 will double as your phone, then sorry, you're out of luck; NO American carrier will ever knowingly allow a device which "does it all." It's bad for business you see...

Will the import version work with Tmobile? If so, I'm assuming only on Edge

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Will the import version work with Tmobile? If so, I'm assuming only on Edge
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Correct. No AWS1700 love for the 7.7 import. Of course there's always the $50/month unlimited everything pay-as-you-go GoPhone option...

Regards to the tmobile question, yea only voice+edge but at the same time its beimg saif that tmobile upgraded to 1900mhz and ofcourse the p6800 handles that i am tryin to find the
service menu codes to see if can change the frequency to 1900mhz and if that doesnt work there us always att :-(
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adinis78 said:
Regards to the tmobile question, yea only voice+edge but at the same time its beimg saif that tmobile upgraded to 1900mhz and ofcourse the p6800 handles that i am tryin to find the
service menu codes to see if can change the frequency to 1900mhz and if that doesnt work there us always att :-(
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The 7.7 already supports 1900mhz out of the box. No need to change anything in the service codes menu.

Jade Eyed Wolf said:
The 7.7 already supports 1900mhz out of the box. No need to change anything in the service codes menu.
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Then still not able to get voice+3g not sure if calling tmobile would help since the tab is not here in the US yet
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adinis78 said:
Then still not able to get voice+3g not sure if calling tmobile would help since the tab is not here in the US yet
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I'm sure if you happen to be in a 1900mhz t-mobile area, you'll be able to get voice+3g just fine.

Jade Eyed Wolf said:
I'm sure if you happen to be in a 1900mhz t-mobile area, you'll be able to get voice+3g just fine.
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I guess uou are right, mihjt have to visit nyc more often from now on lol!!!
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I can confirm that I can use the 7.7 as a phone on AT&T just by popping in my phone's SIM.

burhanistan said:
I can confirm that I can use the 7.7 as a phone on AT&T just by popping in my phone's SIM.
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Woot! thanks, can anyone confirmed Tmobile (US) though? Just to be certain before I jump on the 6800. I mostly text with my phone.

darkhunter21 said:
Woot! thanks, can anyone confirmed Tmobile (US) though? Just to be certain before I jump on the 6800. I mostly text with my phone.
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I can't confirm, but I'd bet $2 that it will but will only be 2G. I put a T-Mobile 4G hotspot SIM in there and all I got was EDGE speeds.

darkhunter21 said:
Woot! thanks, can anyone confirmed Tmobile (US) though? Just to be certain before I jump on the 6800. I mostly text with my phone.
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It will work as a phone but you will only get edge and not 3g I can confirm this as I am a T-Mobile user
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Bluetooth "pen"
Oh, and if you don't want to look silly holding the thing up to your head to talk on the phone, in addition to using a regular bluetooth earpiece Samsung has this device out now:
http://www.gadgetreview.com/2011/03...set-acts-like-a-second-phone-but-smaller.html
Seems ideal for a tablet. If not for the much better camera in my phone I'd be tempted to shed it and just use the tablet.

Hold on a minute. Can someone clarify something for me. I know it has the specs to be used as a "phone". BUT, is there phone/dialer/messaging software on it. And does that thing on the top in the middle act as a speaker or earpiece?
Cuz, I'm seriously considering using one as a "phone". LOL the looks I'll get. And I don't care. Honestly people don't care anymore anyway. It's accepted. If you can carry it, you can talk on it. haha.
Thanks.

juiceppc said:
Hold on a minute. Can someone clarify something for me. I know it has the specs to be used as a "phone". BUT, is there phone/dialer software on it. And does that thing on the top in the middle act as a speaker or earpiece?
Cuz, I'm seriously considering using one as a "phone". LOL the looks I'll get. And I don't care. Honestly people don't care anymore anyway. It's accepted. If you can carry it, you can talk on it. haha.
Thanks.
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Yes, it works just like a regular cellphone. That speaker is additional to the stereo speakers around the charging port. It has dialer (Touchwiz-look) just like a regular cellphone. You just need to have a plan that includes voice and you're good to go.

burhanistan said:
Yes, it works just like a regular cellphone. That speaker is additional to the stereo speakers around the charging port. It has dialer (Touchwiz-look) just like a regular cellphone. You just need to have a plan that includes voice and you're good to go.
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Uh Oh... I did not know this... Time to sell my Note. lol.
So I imagine that ATT isn't too kind to allowing people use this as a "smartphone" though. I'll have to do some sweet talking. I'll pay whatever.
Also I'll need some kind of case with a grip on it to be able to hold it up to my ear one handed. OMG this is going to be hilarious when I show people my new "cell phone". Yes I know I can get a bluetooth headset but I'll just lose it or forget to charge it or whatever. One device.

juiceppc said:
Uh Oh... I did not know this... Time to sell my Note. lol.
So I imagine that ATT isn't too kind to allowing people use this as a "smartphone" though. I'll have to do some sweet talking. I'll pay whatever.
Also I'll need some kind of case with a grip on it to be able to hold it up to my ear one handed. OMG this is going to be hilarious when I show people my new "cell phone". Yes I know I can get a bluetooth headset but I'll just lose it or forget to charge it or whatever. One device.
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It works fine as a phone when I put the SIM from my Galaxy Skyrocket into the 7.7. I only get 3G speeds instead of LTE, of course.

use as a phone
Jip. I use it as a phone (p6810) Voice quality is great.
Just got my Zagg Solo bluetooth keyboard and logitech bluetooth mouse. Works great as a desktop even Does everthing I need. Phone, tab, desktop
Only cons is some wifi issue and honeycomb is def laggy at times. Although after last update the performance was a lot better.
Hope they solve the wifi issues and we get ICS soon.

juiceppc said:
Uh Oh... I did not know this... Time to sell my Note. lol.
So I imagine that ATT isn't too kind to allowing people use this as a "smartphone" though. I'll have to do some sweet talking. I'll pay whatever.
Also I'll need some kind of case with a grip on it to be able to hold it up to my ear one handed. OMG this is going to be hilarious when I show people my new "cell phone". Yes I know I can get a bluetooth headset but I'll just lose it or forget to charge it or whatever. One device.
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I have been using it the past week on ATT with the prepaid go phone sim card. Everything works fine. Phone calls and data are perfect. Getting data speeds of about 4-6mbps downloads and I am in NY.
I don't think ATT will care at all if your using their prepaid. I actually don't think they will even know what kind of device it is with the prepaid.