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I currently have a Vibrant and have unlocked the wireless hotspot that comes with the phone. I want to get the mytouch but T-Mobile is now imposing a 14.99 tether plan as of November 3rd. I do not use tethering enough to justify that expense, do you guys think we will be able to unlock the tethering that is built into froyo or just use some sort of app off the market to avoid paying the 14.99?
Pdanet is what I use on my wife's Vibrant.
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GentillyWoods said:
Pdanet is what I use on my wife's Vibrant.
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Hopefully that is something that can be used on the mytouch
If there is a will, there's a way
PolishDude said:
Hopefully that is something that can be used on the mytouch
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Should work as long as they don't gimp the market like AT&T has.
In either event, hacks to re-enable FroYo's built-in tethering should be trivial.
ATT GIMPED the market? how so I tether always I leave it on all night at hotels sometimes and no repercussions. Same plan no extra charge. unless they changed something and im grandfathered in with my old 4 year unlimited internet plan.
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ATT GIMPED the market? how so I tether always I leave it on all night at hotels sometimes and no repercussions. Same plan no extra charge. unless they changed something and im grandfathered in with my old 4 year unlimited internet plan.
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Yes, gimped. As in, you can't install un-trusted sources. It's an option on every other android handset, except those from AT&T. They pretty much took the best part about Android and neutered it.
Are you rooted? I'm talking about stock settings, where you can't get at the option to change it. Of course, rooting is another story, but having the android market being the only official source for apps sucks ass.
Speaking as an employee of T-mobile, I am seriously confused as to how the company is going to implement these charges. I just got the mytouch 4g as a champion device, and the tethering works just fine for me! I didn't change my account or anything, but then again I am not on a standard account. Now, I doubt that the phone automatically disables the feature when it detects an account without the tethering feature, but maybe T-Mo has something up their sleeve. They like to leave us in the dark with the important details.
Edit: Also didn't consider that maybe it's something to do with the champion device itself. Perhaps they left it unlocked for us to screw with, but I'll test a retail unit soon and see if there's a difference.
I am very excited to see all the great work that has been done to achieve voice+data on the AT&T Galaxy Tab (and T-Mobile). I am a VZ customer, and have been for 6+ years. I was hoping to pickup a VZ GT, and be able to use voice on it (at some point), but going to the AT&T store tonight and playing with a GT has made me far too impatient to wait. I want my GT now!
Leading into my question..
As I have no relationships with AT&T, I have no idea their plans, pre-pay options, etc., not to mention what will work best for the GT. I want to know what is the best way to setup a plan and get a SIM that I am going to be able to use in an AT&T device to achieve voice+data.
Thank you, and I hope forthcoming answers will be of assistance to all the others out there like myself!
Need more info. How heavy do u use internet? 250MB is $25+voice plan i believe, 39.99.
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quattr0 said:
Need more info. How heavy do u use internet? 250MB is $25+voice plan i believe, 39.99.
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Fairly heavy, and I can only see it going up with the GT. The voice - not a ton. Something like 200 minutes per month. I doubt that wold be increasing.
After reading around, I think the best solution for me is going to be:
AT&T Galaxy Tab
SIM Unlock
Voice Hack
Simple Mobile $60/mo plan for 'unlimited everything'/
cafcwest said:
After reading around, I think the best solution for me is going to be:
AT&T Galaxy Tab
SIM Unlock
Voice Hack
Simple Mobile $60/mo plan for 'unlimited everything'/
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Don't know if this is apparent from their website, but Simply Mobile is a T-Mobile reseller, so you won't get 3G data from them... only EDGE.
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Don't know if this is apparent from their website, but Simply Mobile is a T-Mobile reseller, so you won't get 3G data from them... only EDGE.
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For my needs right now, I think EDGE is going to be ok.
As this is a device I "want", but dont have to "have", I can take some time and keep looking for a better way to make this work the way I want though.
Anyone have any ideas if the 3G will be worth it, there are some discouraging posts over at the notion ink blog, in the comments section, about the bandwidth limitations on the 3G models and them being selected for you, instead of allowing us to pick our own.
(I am one of the ones that did not get a pre-order in on time)
It would be considered a new contract on AT&T so you would not have unlimited data. Also in the US it is only for AT&T
Why thank you for that, being a sprint person, and an Android lover, AT&T is certainly not something I want to deal with, at least that helps me with my decision, I'll just have to use a USB Sprint 4G adapter... :
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Why thank you for that, being a sprint person, and an Android lover, AT&T is certainly not something I want to deal with, at least that helps me with my decision, I'll just have to use a USB Sprint 4G adapter... :
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If you have an android phone I would recommend root it and install wifi tether. Rooting is a very simple process for the EVO at unrevoked.com and I am not sure if it will have support for a usb adapter. You might get the MiFi that is coming to Sprint soon.
Interesting topic. Since I am also on Sprint, its probably better off just getting the Wifi version and wifi tether to the EVO or pdanet. Now when Traveling overseas where Sprint doesn't work (except Jamaica and Taiwan) I guess the wifi will have to just do.
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If you have an android phone I would recommend root it and install wifi tether. Rooting is a very simple process for the EVO at unrevoked.com and I am not sure if it will have support for a usb adapter. You might get the MiFi that is coming to Sprint soon.
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twospirits said:
Interesting topic. Since I am also on Sprint, its probably better off just getting the Wifi version and wifi tether to the EVO or pdanet. Now when Traveling overseas where Sprint doesn't work (except Jamaica and Taiwan) I guess the wifi will have to just do.
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Can you tether an Android device to an Android device? I have purchased EasyTether, I use it for work when I have to drive between states, but did not know they made an Android app to tether to, I thought it only worked on PC's. I'll have to go to their website and look into it.
On Android if you root it you can install a WiFi Tether application that allows you to turn your phone into a hot spot without having to pay Sprint.
http://lifehacker.com/5447347/how-to-tether-your-android-phone
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On Android if you root it you can install a WiFi Tether application that allows you to turn your phone into a hot spot without having to pay Sprint.
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oh ok, yeah I forgot you can make it a hotspot... since I don't need that function right now...
good call. Yeah, I'll stick with the wifi model.
You are correct, I keep forgetting that pdanet only has the PC drivers.
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Or if you don't want to root and get good T-Mobile service, the Nexus One/S can be a Wifi hotspot out of the box.
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Or if you don't want to root and get good T-Mobile service, the Nexus One/S can be a Wifi hotspot out of the box.
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If you are on T-Mobile you can specify the overseas version by emailing them and it is capable to connect to T-Mobile.
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Or if you don't want to root and get good T-Mobile service, the Nexus One/S can be a Wifi hotspot out of the box.
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I thought WifI Hotspot tethering was a standard feature in Froyo...
I have it on my Desire (yes it's rooted, but I think the hotspot functionality was part of the original ROM).
litening said:
I thought WifI Hotspot tethering was a standard feature in Froyo...
I have it on my Desire (yes it's rooted, but I think the hotspot functionality was part of the original ROM).
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It is a standard feature but the service providers locked it down so you would have to pay them to use it. The nexus one and s are the only ones that have it enabled.
You can pick your carrier with the adam
Rohan's interview on Android Police states:
AP: Regarding the 3G model, how many frequency sets are being offered? In the US, AT&T and T-Mobile run on different 3G bands, necessitating at least two US 3G models.
Rohan: Initially we offered only one 3G module which was suited for AT&T, but then when customers requested we changed their models. From next pre-order everyone will be given an option of deciding their own 3G module for a specific frequency.
So, if you have already pre-ordered but want a different carrier...email them and provide your order info with your carrier preference. If you pre-order now you will have an option to indicate your choice
Data limitations will be determined by cell carrier not this device. And yes, every company but Sprint has a limit on data right now. Come to think of it, Sprint might have a limit for their USB hotspot and for the devices that have an EVDO radio in them, not sure on that.
Regardless as others stated, if this bothers you just wifi tether. But I have a Chrome Netbook with a verizon connection in it and I love it. Not having to deal with wifi tether all the time is nice.
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Data limitations will be determined by cell carrier not this device. And yes, every company but Sprint has a limit on data right now. Come to think of it, Sprint might have a limit for their USB hotspot and for the devices that have an EVDO radio in them, not sure on that.
Regardless as others stated, if this bothers you just wifi tether. But I have a Chrome Netbook with a verizon connection in it and I love it. Not having to deal with wifi tether all the time is nice.
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i'm jealous, i have been hoping everyday a cr-48 would be waiting for me when i get home.
Crimton said:
i'm jealous, i have been hoping everyday a cr-48 would be waiting for me when i get home.
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Don't worry he only has a 100Mb of data.
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Don't worry he only has a 100Mb of data.
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but it was free! free things are my favorite
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but it was free! free things are my favorite
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I know i'm jealous as well.
I just ordered my Adam and the only model left was the Pixel Qi 3G version. If I had a choice, I would have gone wifi only because I don't have AT&T as a carrier (I have Verizon). Was it just me that found a lack of info on the website about the 3G carrier requirements? It wouldn't have changed my order (because I ordered to late), but it seemed a little vague. I'm still stoked to get the adam though.
Cheers!
Can the SGT 7.7 double as a phone? Does it have a sim card slot 3G?
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Can the SGT 7.7 double as a phone? Does it have a sim card slot 3G?
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Yes, and yes.
Of course I'm talking about the P6800 here, and not the P6810, which is the WiFi-only version.
If you're hoping that the Verizon 7.7 will double as your phone, then sorry, you're out of luck; NO American carrier will ever knowingly allow a device which "does it all." It's bad for business you see...
Will the import version work with Tmobile? If so, I'm assuming only on Edge
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Will the import version work with Tmobile? If so, I'm assuming only on Edge
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Correct. No AWS1700 love for the 7.7 import. Of course there's always the $50/month unlimited everything pay-as-you-go GoPhone option...
Regards to the tmobile question, yea only voice+edge but at the same time its beimg saif that tmobile upgraded to 1900mhz and ofcourse the p6800 handles that i am tryin to find the
service menu codes to see if can change the frequency to 1900mhz and if that doesnt work there us always att :-(
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Regards to the tmobile question, yea only voice+edge but at the same time its beimg saif that tmobile upgraded to 1900mhz and ofcourse the p6800 handles that i am tryin to find the
service menu codes to see if can change the frequency to 1900mhz and if that doesnt work there us always att :-(
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The 7.7 already supports 1900mhz out of the box. No need to change anything in the service codes menu.
Jade Eyed Wolf said:
The 7.7 already supports 1900mhz out of the box. No need to change anything in the service codes menu.
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Then still not able to get voice+3g not sure if calling tmobile would help since the tab is not here in the US yet
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adinis78 said:
Then still not able to get voice+3g not sure if calling tmobile would help since the tab is not here in the US yet
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I'm sure if you happen to be in a 1900mhz t-mobile area, you'll be able to get voice+3g just fine.
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I'm sure if you happen to be in a 1900mhz t-mobile area, you'll be able to get voice+3g just fine.
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I guess uou are right, mihjt have to visit nyc more often from now on lol!!!
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I can confirm that I can use the 7.7 as a phone on AT&T just by popping in my phone's SIM.
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I can confirm that I can use the 7.7 as a phone on AT&T just by popping in my phone's SIM.
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Woot! thanks, can anyone confirmed Tmobile (US) though? Just to be certain before I jump on the 6800. I mostly text with my phone.
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Woot! thanks, can anyone confirmed Tmobile (US) though? Just to be certain before I jump on the 6800. I mostly text with my phone.
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I can't confirm, but I'd bet $2 that it will but will only be 2G. I put a T-Mobile 4G hotspot SIM in there and all I got was EDGE speeds.
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Woot! thanks, can anyone confirmed Tmobile (US) though? Just to be certain before I jump on the 6800. I mostly text with my phone.
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It will work as a phone but you will only get edge and not 3g I can confirm this as I am a T-Mobile user
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Bluetooth "pen"
Oh, and if you don't want to look silly holding the thing up to your head to talk on the phone, in addition to using a regular bluetooth earpiece Samsung has this device out now:
http://www.gadgetreview.com/2011/03...set-acts-like-a-second-phone-but-smaller.html
Seems ideal for a tablet. If not for the much better camera in my phone I'd be tempted to shed it and just use the tablet.
Hold on a minute. Can someone clarify something for me. I know it has the specs to be used as a "phone". BUT, is there phone/dialer/messaging software on it. And does that thing on the top in the middle act as a speaker or earpiece?
Cuz, I'm seriously considering using one as a "phone". LOL the looks I'll get. And I don't care. Honestly people don't care anymore anyway. It's accepted. If you can carry it, you can talk on it. haha.
Thanks.
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Hold on a minute. Can someone clarify something for me. I know it has the specs to be used as a "phone". BUT, is there phone/dialer software on it. And does that thing on the top in the middle act as a speaker or earpiece?
Cuz, I'm seriously considering using one as a "phone". LOL the looks I'll get. And I don't care. Honestly people don't care anymore anyway. It's accepted. If you can carry it, you can talk on it. haha.
Thanks.
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Yes, it works just like a regular cellphone. That speaker is additional to the stereo speakers around the charging port. It has dialer (Touchwiz-look) just like a regular cellphone. You just need to have a plan that includes voice and you're good to go.
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Yes, it works just like a regular cellphone. That speaker is additional to the stereo speakers around the charging port. It has dialer (Touchwiz-look) just like a regular cellphone. You just need to have a plan that includes voice and you're good to go.
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Uh Oh... I did not know this... Time to sell my Note. lol.
So I imagine that ATT isn't too kind to allowing people use this as a "smartphone" though. I'll have to do some sweet talking. I'll pay whatever.
Also I'll need some kind of case with a grip on it to be able to hold it up to my ear one handed. OMG this is going to be hilarious when I show people my new "cell phone". Yes I know I can get a bluetooth headset but I'll just lose it or forget to charge it or whatever. One device.
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Uh Oh... I did not know this... Time to sell my Note. lol.
So I imagine that ATT isn't too kind to allowing people use this as a "smartphone" though. I'll have to do some sweet talking. I'll pay whatever.
Also I'll need some kind of case with a grip on it to be able to hold it up to my ear one handed. OMG this is going to be hilarious when I show people my new "cell phone". Yes I know I can get a bluetooth headset but I'll just lose it or forget to charge it or whatever. One device.
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It works fine as a phone when I put the SIM from my Galaxy Skyrocket into the 7.7. I only get 3G speeds instead of LTE, of course.
use as a phone
Jip. I use it as a phone (p6810) Voice quality is great.
Just got my Zagg Solo bluetooth keyboard and logitech bluetooth mouse. Works great as a desktop even Does everthing I need. Phone, tab, desktop
Only cons is some wifi issue and honeycomb is def laggy at times. Although after last update the performance was a lot better.
Hope they solve the wifi issues and we get ICS soon.
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Uh Oh... I did not know this... Time to sell my Note. lol.
So I imagine that ATT isn't too kind to allowing people use this as a "smartphone" though. I'll have to do some sweet talking. I'll pay whatever.
Also I'll need some kind of case with a grip on it to be able to hold it up to my ear one handed. OMG this is going to be hilarious when I show people my new "cell phone". Yes I know I can get a bluetooth headset but I'll just lose it or forget to charge it or whatever. One device.
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I have been using it the past week on ATT with the prepaid go phone sim card. Everything works fine. Phone calls and data are perfect. Getting data speeds of about 4-6mbps downloads and I am in NY.
I don't think ATT will care at all if your using their prepaid. I actually don't think they will even know what kind of device it is with the prepaid.
Wondering if the device will support t-mo's wifi calling app. That's pretty much the deciding factor for me.****ty coverage where I am and I need it. I would buy the one from the play store, but the issue is if it's an app it may be firmware specific to the T-mo sold one maybe? I'm not sure how it'll work but has anyone heard anything? Really wanna get this launch day
I don't know about the Nexus 4 or t-mo's wifi calling but I use my Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 WiFi only to make calls using GrooVe IP Lite for free it should work with an unlocked Nexas 4 also I would think without even having a regular phone connection like t-mobile.
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Wondering if the device will support t-mo's wifi calling app. That's pretty much the deciding factor for me.****ty coverage where I am and I need it. I would buy the one from the play store, but the issue is if it's an app it may be firmware specific to the T-mo sold one maybe? I'm not sure how it'll work but has anyone heard anything? Really wanna get this launch day
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Until now the T-Mobile WiFi Calling app required a radio/kernel combination that maybe only the T-Mobile version might have … Having said that since both would be pretty similar after getting kernel source from both it could be ported later on the near future … Unless T-Mobile its not planning on supporting it OR goes the Skype route and re-writes the app all together …..
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I don't know about the Nexus 4 or t-mo's wifi calling but I use my Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 WiFi only to make calls using GrooVe IP Lite for free it should work with an unlocked Nexas 4 also I would think without even having a regular phone connection like t-mobile.
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Agreed. Use groove ip.
Hit me up on Gtalk if u need help @musclehead84
Nope this isn't going to happen. Nexus devices don't come preloaded with any additional software and/or features.
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If it has the hardware compatibility then it could simply be enabled via an app on the play store. I have also read it dependent on the kernel so maybe its something the t-mobile version would be including with their own nexus 4's and the app download would activate it. Which means some XDA hackery and a kernel flash could remedy all the play store purchasers on T-mobile. Here to hoping. Overall though based on the Nexus privy, its not likely.
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If it has the hardware compatibility then it could simply be enabled via an app on the play store. I have also read it dependent on the kernel so maybe its something the t-mobile version would be including with their own nexus 4's and the app download would activate it. Which means some XDA hackery and a kernel flash could remedy all the play store purchasers on T-mobile. Here to hoping. Overall though based on the Nexus privy, its not likely.
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T-Mobile's version is NOT modified at all, in any way, zero, nothing. They will hand you an identical device that someone who ordered through the Play Store will get.
http://www.tmonews.com/2012/10/psa-sorry-everyone-no-wi-fi-calling-on-the-nexus-4/
According to tmonews, as expected there won't be wifi calling
There won't be wifi calling, and this is a good thing. If they allowed T-mobile to tweak the firmware, and add their own bloatware, this would no longer be a Nexus device!
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There won't be wifi calling, and this is a good thing. If they allowed T-mobile to tweak the firmware, and add their own bloatware, this would no longer be a Nexus device!
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Disagree.... would be nice if we could at least download WifiCalling from Market... I've made infrequent use of WifiCalling on my Sensation4G.. but the times I did use it, it was a significant help. I care more about this than SD slot or removable battery. Hopefully it is something which some DEV can get to work (once there is a TMo phone with JB version.
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Disagree.... would be nice if we could at least download WifiCalling from Market... I've made infrequent use of WifiCalling on my Sensation4G.. but the times I did use it, it was a significant help. I care more about this than SD slot or removable battery. Hopefully it is something which some DEV can get to work (once there is a TMo phone with JB version.
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Sounds more like you agree. Yeah if T-Mobile could make something you download from Google Play that enables wifi calling, that would be great. Love it or hate it, it's not going to be baked into the ROM. Google learned from letting Verizon have control over their Galaxy Nexus.
unfortunately seems right. With the question I didn't mean if tmo would modify the phone, I love nexus because there free of ****wear, but the wifi calling app is something I'd still have loved to see. Was hoping they'd bring to play store or something. Now I'm really at an impass though. At college with not much coverage and wanted this phone bad, but without wifi calling using the phone may be somewhat of an issue. Yeah I could use GrooVip but I'm not sure if that's really good enough. Maybe I'll give it a go. If it sucks I can switch to att at the end of my contract and use the same device to hopefully get service.
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unfortunately seems right. With the question I didn't mean if tmo would modify the phone, I love nexus because there free of ****wear, but the wifi calling app is something I'd still have loved to see. Was hoping they'd bring to play store or something. Now I'm really at an impass though. At college with not much coverage and wanted this phone bad, but without wifi calling using the phone may be somewhat of an issue. Yeah I could use GrooVip but I'm not sure if that's really good enough. Maybe I'll give it a go. If it sucks I can switch to att at the end of my contract and use the same device to hopefully get service.
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GRoove sucks, there is a delay that you can't get rid of. Okay in a pinch but not worthy of real use
T-Mo fail!!!
http://www.tmonews.com/2012/10/psa-sorry-everyone-no-wi-fi-calling-on-the-nexus-4/
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T-Mo fail!!!
http://www.tmonews.com/2012/10/psa-sorry-everyone-no-wi-fi-calling-on-the-nexus-4/
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How is that a T-Mobile fail?
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How is that a T-Mobile fail?
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apparently, T-Mo is taking a functionality away from their own store bought phones, as opposed to the Google Play Store purchased phones. That is a fail (along with the pricing debacle, ie, paying more to be locked into a contract).
but i don't have T-Mo, so i don't really care :victory:
*EDIT* and apparently i jumped the gun and am completely wrong about this whole situation... oops
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apparently, T-Mo is taking a functionality away from their own store bought phones, as opposed to the Google Play Store purchased phones. That is a fail (along with the pricing debacle, ie, paying more to be locked into a contract).
but i don't have T-Mo, so i don't really care :victory:
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It is not a fail. They are selling a Nexus device. Nexus devices are pure Android, no added carrier bloatware.
No wifi calling is a deal killer for me.
It is not something that could ever be downloaded from the play store because of the way it works. It needs to interface with the radio at a low level. If TMO doesnt do it, it will never be added to the phone.
This is not a piece of "bloatware" for TMO users. This is a very very useful function which cannot technically be done any other way. An exception should have been made.
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No wifi calling is a deal killer for me.
It is not something that could ever be downloaded from the play store because of the way it works. It needs to interface with the radio at a low level. If TMO doesnt do it, it will never be added to the phone.
This is not a piece of "bloatware" for TMO users. This is a very very useful function which cannot technically be done any other way. An exception should have been made.
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You are under the assumption "bloatware" = "something bad". Some bloatware can be good, or useful. If you need TMO's wifi calling feature, a Nexus device is not for you. Get a Galaxy S III or something that T-Mobile was able to get their hands on the software and add their own here it comes-bloatware!
Argh.. yes I forgot... I do use WiFi calling in buildings sometimes.. the reception is so bad on the cell radio, its the only way to get calls sometimes... this is not a trivial thing to lose