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[Q] T-Mobile Wi-Fi calling app

Now that the update for the G2 is out in the wild, enabling tethering/hotspot and wi-fi calling....I was wondering if it would be possible to rip the Wi-fi calling app off the phone and use it on the Nexus One.

Give the dev some time, they will have something for us by the end of next week.
I feel like this is a slap in the face. I am a little teed off at Tmo for this.

305buddyluv said:
Give the dev some time, they will have something for us by the end of next week.
I feel like this is a slap in the face. I am a little teed off at Tmo for this.
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After reading more about it I doubt it's worth the time. It still uses your minutes while calling via wifi. Seems silly that t-mo would use my Comcast internet connection and still charge me for it.

Yes, it would suck coyote balls if it still uses your minutes while calling via wifi (except for those with unlimited minutes).
I absolutely cannot wait for the new whitespace to be filled with "superwifi" so we can all end this cellular carrier Kim Jong-Il madness.

I heard from a T-mobile employee that there is some discussion on internal corporate forums about bringing WiFi calling to T-Mobile 3G versions of the phone through Google. It will absolutely use your minutes (I don't see why they would change this), and will most likely be a while before we see it pushed (if at all).
I am sure there will be an .apk leaked as soon as the new myTouch launches.

[IO]ERROR said:
After reading more about it I doubt it's worth the time. It still uses your minutes while calling via wifi. Seems silly that t-mo would use my Comcast internet connection and still charge me for it.
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In theory, because your comcast connection is only the air interface and the last mile backhaul, the call still gets routed over T-Mobile's phone network.
In reality, the air interface (which uses limited and expensive spectrum) and the last-mile backhaul is the most expensive part of a wireless network. So, no, they shouldn't charge you a full minute for calling on wifi. Maybe 0.1 "plan minutes" per minute of wifi calling would be fair, but would probably confuse old and stupid people.
However, the simplistic theoretical argument is what you'd get if you asked T-Mobile.

Honestly, I don't understand why people are so 'peeved' that "WiFi Calling" with TMO:
#1. It isn't out for the N1 yet.
#2. Uses your existing minutes/plan.
For the people who are grandfathered under the @Home UMA plans, it's probably still unlimited.
The majority of people who are hanging onto their BlackBerry and Nokia handsets with UMA are the ones collectively holding their breaths, including myself with a BB 9700.
If you compare with the other carriers and the way they solved "coverage" issues with femtocells, T-Mobile's solution is the most elegant and inexpensive. Are you going to carry your femtocell to a public WiFi hotspot and find an ethernet cord, power, and a clear window so the femtocell can get a GPS lock to make sure you're in the United States so it'll allow you to use the femtocell?
There's nothing like being able to make a 'normal' call, SMS, MMS, etc. (i.e. Non-Skype) where:
#1. Someone with a Verizon, AT&T or Sprint handset has no coverage.
#2. Being at a public WiFi hotspot outside of the United States (i.e. Europe, Asia, etc.) where your phone has UMA/WiFi Calling, SMS, MMS, etc. access and billing as if you're in the U.S. without paying outrageous Int'l roaming or purchasing a pre-paid SIM-card for the country you're in.
You guys have no idea...
Cheers,
Kermee

I don't care if it uses my minutes or texts, I just want some damn cell service in my apartment!

dionysos911 said:
I don't care if it uses my minutes or texts, I just want some damn cell service in my apartment!
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agreed, it will be nice to actually be able to use my minutes

I just want to be able to call back home when I am overseas without extra fees

People that need this service dont give a rip if it uses minutes. I barely get enough coverage in my condo to send a text message (with ANY carrier). At this point I'd be willing to let it cost me double minutes. That's right I said it.
Also, as noted above, its the shiz for international calling. When we go to Mexico, I take my old BB curve so I can avoid the international rate shaft.
I'm desperate to get wifi calling on my Nexus.

smot13 said:
People that need this service dont give a rip if it uses minutes. I barely get enough coverage in my condo to send a text message (with ANY carrier). At this point I'd be willing to let it cost me double minutes. That's right I said it.
Also, as noted above, its the shiz for international calling. When we go to Mexico, I take my old BB curve so I can avoid the international rate shaft.
I'm desperate to get wifi calling on my Nexus.
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Amen. 10Char.

smot13 said:
People that need this service dont give a rip if it uses minutes. I barely get enough coverage in my condo to send a text message (with ANY carrier). At this point I'd be willing to let it cost me double minutes. That's right I said it.
Also, as noted above, its the shiz for international calling. When we go to Mexico, I take my old BB curve so I can avoid the international rate shaft.
I'm desperate to get wifi calling on my Nexus.
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Wait... if I'm overseas and have wifi, I can call back to the U.S. using the app and ONLY be charged my minutes?!

uansari1 said:
Wait... if I'm overseas and have wifi, I can call back to the U.S. using the app and ONLY be charged my minutes?!
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Hold on there partner. I'm only speaking from experience with UMA and Mexico to US. They may have closed this loophole with the change from UMA to Wifi calling *shrug* idk.
On the other hand, it very well could be identical and they only changed the name. That would be ideal, as it worked perfectly before... just nobody knew what a UMA was

From what I've seen so far, I'm guessing it's UMA-Lite (GAN). The only functionality that's missing is the seemless hand-off from WiFi to a GSM tower when you leave a WiFi area. The call would just drop instead of being properly handed off to the nearest tower.
I doubt TMO would treat UMA-Lite any different from how they handle existing UMA handsets.
Cheers,
Kermee

T-mobile really needs to push this feature onto all their phones and start advertising it. It will really give them a leg up on the competition, and people will stop associating tmobile as being the cheap carrier with lousy reception.

Unlimited user on AT&T? Throttled? Change your SOC code!

Today, AT&T has finally become somewhat less unreasonable with regard to their throttling policies!
So, if you're an unlimited data user suffering from stupid throttling woes at usage less than 2GB in a billing cycle, you can breathe a slight sigh of relief. But here's a little tip if you think 3GB still isn't reasonable enough for you:
Go to your local AT&T store and get the IMEI from one of their LTE Note display units by dialing *#06#
Then, call customer service and let the agent know that you bought an LTE Note from on the internet or some other third party, and request that your service be enabled for LTE usage. Specifically, that your SOC code be changed to LTEDPPB. They will ask you for your device's IMEI. Provide them the IMEI you got from the display unit.
Now, you can continue to enjoy "unlimited" data, and not have to worry about running into any speed limits until 5GB instead of 3!
Enjoy!
P.S. APN's that work on this new plan:
pta
Phone
wap.cingular
Google those APN's for the proper settings, and you're all set!
P.P.S. Don't use the "Broadband" APN, because that's used only for tethering, and that would raise red flags on your account. Not sure it would work anyway. You should still be able to tether just fine with any of the other APN's though.

I have unlimited plan, but i bought the international copy which H+
Should I do anything?
I use tethering apps a lot!

I'm on that data plan and you can still get throttled but I'm assuming you now have more options for APN switching

so basically you are spoofing the imei to circumvent their system and enable you to defraud them

Richy99 said:
so basically you are spoofing the imei to circumvent their system and enable you to defraud them
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Who is defrauding who? Exactly...thanks OP

Atrix_E said:
Who is defrauding who? Exactly...thanks OP
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Ha ha ha, good point! If they are going to throttle why can't they at least make it the same amount across the plans?
Does anyone know if this causes a change to the agreement? IE we lose any rights over law suit from the old plan? I don't like suing but I like knowing that I CAN and I like them knowing people HAVE sued

I'm using the "broadband" APN, but that's because I'm using a Unlimited iPad SIM. I don't think this will work for me. I guess I could use a IMEI from a LTE tablet such as the JetStream?

mahboob2t said:
I have unlimited plan, but i bought the international copy which H+
Should I do anything?
I use tethering apps a lot!
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First of all, you don't need to use any apps on your international Note in order to tether; tethering is baked right into your wireless settings by default.
Secondly, whether or not you want to do anything is up to you. If your account is currently on a non-LTE unlimited plan, then you will automatically get 3GB of un-throttled usage starting at your next billing cycle. If you think that's enough for you, then you don't have to do anything. If you want more, you can give yourself 5GB instead of 3 by doing what I described in the OP.
The LTE plans simply provision you access to the LTE APN (pta), which works on both HSPA+ and LTE. I mean, it has to, because if you had an LTE phone and were going through an area without LTE coverage, it would fall back to HSPA+ for service instead. Since the international Note doesn't have an LTE radio in it, it's just going to use HSPA+.
I suppose the added bonus is that when unlocked LTE phones do eventually come around, especially ones compatible with US frequency blocks, you won't have to make any changes to your account then.

Spartan2x said:
I'm using the "broadband" APN, but that's because I'm using a Unlimited iPad SIM. I don't think this will work for me. I guess I could use a IMEI from a LTE tablet such as the JetStream?
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This is a data-only plan correct? I'm not sure how AT&T's new policies affect those kinds of plans. I suppose, theoretically, the same process could work by using the IMEI of an LTE AT&T tablet. I don't know for sure though. You could always pioneer this for us and report back!

Richy99 said:
so basically you are spoofing the imei to circumvent their system and enable you to defraud them
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This is a similar process as to what people had to do with their imported Galaxy S2's in order to get HSPA+ to work properly. Basically, we had to get the IMEI of one of AT&T's HSPA+ devices (like the Infuse 4G) and use that to provision our accounts properly. The manual input of the IMEI is only temporary anyway; the system automatically re-updates with your unlocked device's IMEI once you reboot, so there's really no spoofing going on here. It's more of an administrative thing than anything else. If I called in to customer support right now and politely asked to have my account provisioning modified or changed to a slightly different plan, the rep would ask me for my IMEI, I would give it to them, and they would see that it is unlocked, not classified in AT&T's database, and I would be told "Sorry, we don't officially support this device, there's nothing we can do..." And that's true, because their system shows available account features based on the classification of device, and for unlocked devices, they're unclassified.
As for defrauding AT&T for an additional 2GB of un-throttled data, I'm not defrauding them any more than they are defrauding me out of the unlimited, unrestricted, non-throttled service that I signed up for originally. Nor am I defrauding them any more by using an unlocked tablet device as a phone as well (the 7.7 is my daily driver), thus saving myself from either having to pay for an additional data line, or getting rid of my unlimited data and purchasing an additional tethering option.
I am not going to be a passive consumer. I am not afraid to stand up to big corporations and be aggressively thrifty with them, especially when they are aggressively greedy with us. If you don't fight back, they're just going to keep gouging you for everything you have until you eventually reach a point where enough is enough. I already reached that point long ago, and more and more people are getting there now. Corporations are always pushing the consumer's spending boundaries, until they cry "uncle." All I'm doing here is encouraging people to fight back, and cry uncle even sooner and more aggressively. I mean, that iPhone guy in California did it and won! Thanks to him (possibly), we're now no longer going to be throttled into oblivion at least until we reach more reasonable thresholds.
Moral of this story:
Corporations are greedy and amoral, and will bend whatever rules they can get away with to get more money out of you. They have no honour. They don't care about you. They care about the bottom line. They care about making money off of you. They don't care if they have to do morally or ethically questionable things to get more money out of you, as long as they can get away with it.
So stop defending them. Stand up for yourself and your fellow consumers. Band together and fight back!

I second everything j. E. W.! Very well said!
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thanks J E Wolf... for the good info...
can I us my friends LTE skyrocket imei number for this? will it mess.with his account in any way mi
thanks

jimmbomb said:
thanks J E Wolf... for the good info...
can I us my friends LTE skyrocket imei number for this? will it mess.with his account in any way mi
thanks
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Yeah you should be able to use that IMEI as well. Any LTE device should work really. It won't mess with anyone's account.

*bump again*

I think im going to use my buddies att note since its lte!
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eroracing said:
I think im going to use my buddies att note since its lte!
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That'll work

Why to not buy the AT&T phone for TMO

I've seen some threads abound for people asking if the AT&T version works on T-Mobile and while it does there are some things that you should know before making that plunge even though you might be able to save $50.
First the good. If you've already done this that's fine. All bands for operation on T-mobile are on the AT&T variant. So no issues there. Don't feel like me making this thread means your device won't work.
If you're weighing what you lose in this scenario:
- You'll need to buy an unlock code, or at least find one, to switch it over. While these codes are cheap it's still chipping away at that small discount you got to buy the AT&T version instead of the TMO one.
- VoLTE support. While it's not enabled yet, it will come shortly and AT&T phones won't have the right radio and framework to make this work on TMO.
- QI Charging - in case you've been living under a rock in these forums, the AT&T model utilizes the basically non-existant powermat charging method and they have disabled the ability to use a QI wireless charger. Supposedly this is at the hardware level so this isn't something that can be fixed with a patch or custom ROM if true.
- No WiFi calling. Self explanatory. AT&T doesn't have/use this technology.
- locked bootloader. Now this may change over time with the amazing devs that we have but should you accidentally relock it or get a replacement phone because your old one got lost/broken you may have a newer bootloader than the one that could be bypassed previously. Better to just not deal with it.
Now for those looking to go the other way (TMO device on AT&T) that's fine. Just know that the tmo version is missing the 850mhz LTE band. Not that big a deal though as they don't really use that band much but it is a difference.
If anyone can think of anything else I missed feel free to chime in. Or if anyone has any general thoughts.

Wifi calling? Thats a thing?
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StreetkillnHD said:
Wifi calling? Thats a thing?
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Yep. Works great when I'm out of the country and want to call someone here without being charged for international calling.

Slash8915 said:
Yep. Works great when I'm out of the country and want to call someone here without being charged for international calling.
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yeah, looking forward to using this when we travel... too bad the reverse isn't free.
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Slash8915 said:
Yep. Works great when I'm out of the country and want to call someone here without being charged for international calling.
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And anywhere you don't get great reception. My work is basically a giant steel cage so everyone's service sucks in here but Wifi incoming and outgoing calls work like a charm. Basements etc are also good areas to use it
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yeah, looking forward to using this when we travel... too bad the reverse isn't free.
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It's not? I get incoming and outgoing calls all the time on mine.

arcanexvi said:
And anywhere you don't get great reception. My work is basically a giant steel cage so everyone's service sucks in here but Wifi incoming and outgoing calls work like a charm. Basements etc are also good areas to use it
It's not? I get incoming and outgoing calls all the time on mine.
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According to T-mo it's 20 cents/min to call international through WiFi. makes sense since the call has to be routed to cellular on the other side. I guess an exception would be if the recipient also has WiFi calling.
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Does the AT&T LG G3 support WCDMA on the Band 4/AWS band?

Got the update.

Can't be specific about changes obviously...as per soak instructions...but I can say for sure a certain feature we've all been missing has been restored to us. PM me if you want details.
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So.... It comes with root?

lol to beat me to it! :highfive:

Haha..I wish..but no
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Yay finally we get Lollipop

Again..I wish... But no
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Unlocked bands?

Most likely VoLTE...

Longer battery?!

It's VoLTE. Or, simultaneous Voice and Data as was missing from the device at launch with the promise to be fixed with an update by the end of the year.
I'm curious, though, if it counts towards your data allowance to use VoLTE. Does anyone know?

It doesn't count against your data plan according to the Verizon FAQ

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It's VoLTE. Or, simultaneous Voice and Data as was missing from the device at launch with the promise to be fixed with an update by the end of the year.
I'm curious, though, if it counts towards your data allowance to use VoLTE. Does anyone know?
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Voice no, video yes.

It's disappointing that the update is (apparently) only/mainly VoLTE, and not Android 5.0. Since carrier certification is a relatively slow, painful process, I think this is a sign that the Lollipop update is more than a couple months away.
I was initially excited about VoLTE, but I wasn't impressed with it when I used it briefly on my Droid Maxx. First, it wasn't reliable- I had dropped calls, and calls that never even rang my phone. Second, it killed my battery. It was rough- really rough- on it. I think both are related to the relatively weak LTE signal I have at home. To deal with the signal problems I have a Verizon network extender, but it looked like my phone was preferring the weak LTE signal over the strong signal from the network extender.
I wish Verizon would have just sucked it up and supported Wifi calling with Advanced Calling 1.0. I don't understand why they dislike Wifi calling so much. They're going to eventually support it, but the company's statements suggest they aren't happy about it. Who knows how much support there will be for it, though. Verizon apparently plans to release a LTE network extender at some point, which is only useful in certain niche situations if Wifi calling is broadly supported on VZW devices.

reggie14 said:
It's disappointing that the update is (apparently) only/mainly VoLTE, and not Android 5.0. Since carrier certification is a relatively slow, painful process, I think this is a sign that the Lollipop update is more than a couple months away.
I was initially excited about VoLTE, but I wasn't impressed with it when I used it briefly on my Droid Maxx. First, it wasn't reliable- I had dropped calls, and calls that never even rang my phone. Second, it killed my battery. It was rough- really rough- on it. I think both are related to the relatively weak LTE signal I have at home. To deal with the signal problems I have a Verizon network extender, but it looked like my phone was preferring the weak LTE signal over the strong signal from the network extender.
I wish Verizon would have just sucked it up and supported Wifi calling with Advanced Calling 1.0. I don't understand why they dislike Wifi calling so much. They're going to eventually support it, but the company's statements suggest they aren't happy about it. Who knows how much support there will be for it, though. Verizon apparently plans to release a LTE network extender at some point, which is only useful in certain niche situations if Wifi calling is broadly supported on VZW devices.
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Wifi calling is for carriers that need someone else's network to supplement their own shortcomings.
That is why they don't implement it.

adrynalyne said:
Wifi calling is for carriers that need someone else's network to supplement their own shortcomings.
That is why they don't implement it.
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So is it just a messaging problem? Verizon doesn't want to support wifi calling because it's an implicit admission that they don't have great coverage everywhere?
Generally, I agree VZW coverage is pretty good. But, it's not great at my house, and its terrible at my workplace. VZW already implicitly acknowledges that they don't have great coverage everywhere by selling network extenders. They're continuing that by coming out with LTE network extenders (someday).
It just seems like its a cheaper, better option to support wifi calling, rather than forcing people (with coverage problems) to shell out $200-300 for a network extender.

adrynalyne said:
Wifi calling is for carriers that need someone else's network to supplement their own shortcomings.
That is why they don't implement it.
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I still think every carrier should support this. I'm in IT, and constantly find myself in data centers, or even meeting rooms deep into a building that you couldn't even make an E-911 call from... It really wouldn't be that difficult. When TMob had UMA back in '08 and I had a BB, I used it extensively. It was never because TMobile didn't have enough coverage.. Carriers basically make money when you use their network. Yes, most people have unlimited plans these days, but they build their network around the use it has. So why wouldn't they want you to be using your phone, minutes, texts, etc? On the other hand, why wouldn't they want to offload congestion to networks they don't have to maintain or pay for? There just aren't any down sides to have WiFi calling/text/mms.

dbornack said:
I still think every carrier should support this. I'm in IT, and constantly find myself in data centers, or even meeting rooms deep into a building that you couldn't even make an E-911 call from... It really wouldn't be that difficult. When TMob had UMA back in '08 and I had a BB, I used it extensively. It was never because TMobile didn't have enough coverage.. Carriers basically make money when you use their network. Yes, most people have unlimited plans these days, but they build their network around the use it has. So why wouldn't they want you to be using your phone, minutes, texts, etc? On the other hand, why wouldn't they want to offload congestion to networks they don't have to maintain or pay for? There just aren't any down sides to have WiFi calling/text/mms.
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You can make calls through Hangouts if that helps ya.

allenrb2 said:
It doesn't count against your data plan according to the Verizon FAQ
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Any chance anyone who has the update can see if it fixes the shutter lag?

phoenixus said:
Any chance anyone who has the update can see if it fixes the shutter lag?
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There is a definite improvement, IMO

adrynalyne said:
You can make calls through Hangouts if that helps ya.
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Can you? I mean, I knew you could, but it rides WiFi, and doesn't do the Google Voice thing where you still need cell service?

WiFi Calling on AT&T

I have looked thru thread after thread for days and cannot seem to enable WiFi calling on my OnePlus 5 on the AT&T network, Does anyone have a clue?

I switched from AT&T to T-Mobile when I got my OnePlus, so I can't say for sure, but I believe AT&T limits WiFi-Calling to certain devices, and even then, only the AT&T variants of those. (Mostly newer and from big name brands e.g. Apple, Samsung, HTC, LG). Since to my knowledge even an unlocked Galaxy s8 won't have WiFi calling on AT&T, it is unlikely that any OnePlus device will ever have that ability.

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I switched from AT&T to T-Mobile when I got my OnePlus, so I can't say for sure, but I believe AT&T limits WiFi-Calling to certain devices, and even then, only the AT&T variants of those. (Mostly newer and from big name brands e.g. Apple, Samsung, HTC, LG). Since to my knowledge even an unlocked Galaxy s8 won't have WiFi calling on AT&T, it is unlikely that any OnePlus device will ever have that ability.
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Yes, I remember reading you can NOT do Wi-Fi calling on att with bring your own device.
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MrWilsonxD said:
Yes, I remember reading you can NOT do Wi-Fi calling on att with bring your own device.
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Le Pro3 is the only device that is BYOD and works on AT&T I believe.

Just another reason TMobile is the real deal

Eric214 said:
Just another reason TMobile is the real deal
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Yeah, or any of their mvno's!
I was with family today in Anaheim, a highly populated, very modern city I mean Disneyland is there.
My dad has AT&T, I have mint sim (a t mobile mvno) I had near 70-80db signal, he was bouncing between 120 and up.. Had no signal whatsoever for extended periods of time. And with their low band frequency purchase, it's only getting better. It's anecdotal evidence, but still..
While I don't think t mobile offers the best network, I strongly feel they are going to get there in a couple years should they keep this up..
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I'm wondering about WiFi texting can the oneplus 5 do it? Also I noticed when in connected to WiFi I can't send any texts.

Att does not allow the 1+5, albeight the technology is there, to do VoWifi or VoLte. They reserve those features for devices solely purchased from Att, ie Only branded devices. If the Le eco does work it out of the box, that's awesome. Don't tell Att that, lol. I got into a huge argument with Att NatCs and filed troubleshooting tickets only to be told, sorry, since it wasn't purchased directly, no work. I have since made the move to TMobile. Im in NJ as a reference. And to be honest, I find the voice quality vastly better to what I had with Att, with hd voice too. I've hit some spots with little to no coverage, usually at a friend's house but my VoWifi kicks in and I have service once again with no issues.
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Many retail/unlock mobiles have "Wifi Calling" function but not any menu entry to enable , The APP can check the hidden function and enable it if can use.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.widget7.wifi.calling

ppgirl said:
Many retail/unlock mobiles have "Wifi Calling" function but not any menu entry to enable , The APP can check the hidden function and enable it if can use.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.wikimediacom.wifi.calling
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Interesting app. But I'm not sure it works.
I install it, on my un-rooted OnePlus 5, then run it - hey! there's a convincing looking setting, for wifi - and so I activate it. But everytime I return to the app, the setting is 'off' again. Does that mean the setting doesn't 'stick' and my phone (running on AT&T) cannot actually use wifi?
Plus, it looks to me as though the app has to remain running (although there's a setting to not display the notification icon, it doesn't seem to 'stick' either).
Ultimately, I cannot seem to get my phone to actually make a wifi call. For this reason, I'm skeptical this app is able to enable wifi calling, on the AT&T network.

I just called ATT.
I want to upgrade to the 5 and i need it to call over wifi as most of the time i'm in a rural situation with no coverage.
The ATT tech support said there would be no problem.

I hate to say it, but they lied (unless there's been a drastic change as-of-late).
Even if you can get them to provision your 5T, it'll only "stick" for a minute or so, and then revert.
AT&T is somewhat "famous" for their lack of BYOD (non-branded) WiFi call/text support. The exception is iOS devices, and a couple of "certified" Android phones; I think the HTC 10 (or maybe it was the 9) was an example, you can probably count these on one hand.

I call At&T today. No changes so far.

AT&T has an issue like this forever, as they do not wish to give that option to all. That is like a drop in profits, and drop in latency and lags. Anyways, too long to explain, but the gist is, they will have loss if they allow full coverage (at least loss on journal entries)..

vdbhb59 said:
at&t has an issue like this forever, as they do not wish to give that option to all. That is like a drop in profits, and drop in latency and lags. Anyways, too long to explain, but the gist is, they will have loss if they allow full coverage (at least loss on journal entries)..
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BOO... At&t... BOO!