[Q] snapdragon 600 x exynos 5 - Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

hi friends, i have a i9500, but i have a question that is boring me:
when i bought the i9500 i tought that it has a better cpu than i9505, but after that, i run some tests in antutu, 3dmark, quadrant and i realize that snapdragon 600 is better than the exynos 5... why? everyone said in reviews that the A15 cores from exynos is better than the snapdragon 600...
well, in older antutu i made 28000, but now, in the new one, i never passed from 25500...
in quadrant, i made 13400
in 3dmark 9900...
i saw here in xda some users with i9505 making 29000 in the new antutu and more than 10000 in 3dmark... why is this happening?
thanks!

Hello
I noticed that too. I had 25000 with old Antutu, and the newest I have 29132. I think it's a marketing thing or something. This happend for me when I bought my Galaxy Nexus. I had to choose between Nexus and Galaxy S2. In Antutu nexus was better than the S2, but after 2 months the S2 got almost twice the score of Nexus. I think you shouldn't really care about these scores , they are not always right
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popab said:
Hello
I noticed that too. I had 25000 with old Antutu, and the newest I have 29132. I think it's a marketing thing or something. This happend for me when I bought my Galaxy Nexus. I had to choose between Nexus and Galaxy S2. In Antutu nexus was better than the S2, but after 2 months the S2 got almost twice the score of Nexus. I think you shouldn't really care about these scores , they are not always right
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yes friend, i noticed that, looks like the scores were inverted. btw, i like the i9500 performance, but i expected more... i came from a i9300.

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galaxy tab vs galaxy s

So I just bought my girl a G2, and I am waiting for the tab. I was very impressed with teh speed of the g2 and its perfomance in all games. I was really wondering since the galaxy s scored even below the nexus one with 2.2 on it in a benchmarking review. how do you think the tab will do?
Everything seems to be the same from the galaxy s to the tab... so does anyone expect the tablet to perform slower than say the g2? Or what about aleast better than the Galaxy s?
Also is the chipset in the tab the same as the one in the galaxy s? Or are their minor differences?
I can assure you that the galaxy tab will be plenty fast on 2.2 I have a samsung galaxy s (captivate) running 2.2 and I never have lag you cannot compare the galaxy s series though quadrant scores as that benchmark is biased to the snap dragon processor which the galaxy s does not run on.
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laxwillsch said:
I can assure you that the galaxy tab will be plenty fast on 2.2 I have a samsung galaxy s (captivate) running 2.2 and I never have lag you cannot compare the galaxy s series though quadrant scores as that benchmark is biased to the snap dragon processor which the galaxy s does not run on.
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Quadrant scores dont count for everything, and its hardly biased, snapdragon does better at the I/O tests more than anything. My Desire on a myTouch 4G port is quicker than stock Android roms according to quadrant.
Make sense of that
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laxwillsch said:
I can assure you that the galaxy tab will be plenty fast on 2.2 I have a samsung galaxy s (captivate) running 2.2 and I never have lag you cannot compare the galaxy s series though quadrant scores as that benchmark is biased to the snap dragon processor which the galaxy s does not run on.
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lol, No it's not.
Stock vs Stock The G2 beat the Galaxy S at every bench mark I've put on them
(5 total) except CPU benchmark and those scores were 812 for the G2 vs 799 on the Galaxy S ( lower the better )
The g2 has the latest snapdragon, it will be a little faster than the galaxy s in cpu benchmarks once overclocked. This is what happens when google coded froyo optimization's for only one cpu type, before that we kicked snapdragon ass
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lol, No it's not.
Stock vs Stock The G2 beat the Galaxy S at every bench mark I've put on them
(5 total) except CPU benchmark and those scores were 812 for the G2 vs 799 on the Galaxy S ( lower the better )
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JIT.
RFS.
go read up on those before you go around correcting people on what's better than what. Benchmarks don't mean a thing. There's a reason why people like Cyanogen don't trust them.
It's kinda hard or weird (or pointless) to compare SGS and Tab CPU and GPU wise, since they both have THE EXACT SAME HARDWARE as long as those are concerned... They both run on the Samsung-built 1GHz Hummingbird chip (that includes the PowerVR GPU). So as long as only CPU/GPU are benchmarked, hardware-wise the SGS and Tab are identical.
Now, comparing those two on a general level makes more sense as they are bound to have small software differences. (At least my Tab does not have the 'SGS-lag' present at all and generally feels smoother to operate)
tl;dr: Basically Galaxy Tab = SGS with different screen, no real point comparing these two extensively
But they must have done a lot of tweaking on the tab that has yet to be ported to the S(if it ever does....).
Seriously, the Tab is smooth as silk, runs like you'd want and as we all know, essentially the same hardware, 2.2 and even RFS.
Also, benchmarks are worthless. My Galaxy S, with Docs JPO 7.5 ROM, ULF ext4 lagfix (no overkill here, not a score whore) gets around 1500 on quadthingy. My Tab, stock, gets around 900-1000. Yet the Tab is sooo much smoother, even with all my tweaks on the S. linpack is pretty much the same (as you'd expect) and I can't be bothered after that.
The only test that matters, usability, favours the Tab.
If I could get the stock Tab rom/fw/whatever onto my S, I'd be a happy camper.
That and a decent browser (dolphin doesn't do it for me either, just don't like it, gotta try the firefox alpha/beta/whatever)
I think the galaxy tab gpu is clocked at higher speed than the s,using neocore it gives same fbs as. Galaxy s although tab has higher resolution and also tab is announced with 1080p playback while galaxy s is anounced with 720 p correct if im wrong
Both equally good. If size does matter, big and small screen, your choice. For me, tab is best.
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tab performs significantly worse as it has a bigger screen to power + more pixels.
But the tab 8.9 and sgs 2 (dual cores) will be a good match!
spekesel said:
But they must have done a lot of tweaking on the tab that has yet to be ported to the S(if it ever does....).
Seriously, the Tab is smooth as silk, runs like you'd want and as we all know, essentially the same hardware, 2.2 and even RFS.
Also, benchmarks are worthless. My Galaxy S, with Docs JPO 7.5 ROM, ULF ext4 lagfix (no overkill here, not a score whore) gets around 1500 on quadthingy. My Tab, stock, gets around 900-1000. Yet the Tab is sooo much smoother, even with all my tweaks on the S. linpack is pretty much the same (as you'd expect) and I can't be bothered after that.
The only test that matters, usability, favours the Tab.
If I could get the stock Tab rom/fw/whatever onto my S, I'd be a happy camper.
That and a decent browser (dolphin doesn't do it for me either, just don't like it, gotta try the firefox alpha/beta/whatever)
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my tab isnt smooth at all!
I preffer sgs.

Samsung Galaxy S II Tegra (Galaxy Royal) i9103

Samsung Galaxy S II Tegra (Galaxy Royal) i9103
Available in Europe from at least 104 Online shops:
http://skinflint.co.uk/eu/670691
Telecoms are selling the "i9103 Samsung Galaxy S II Tegra" for 300 US$ less then the i9100 Samsung Galaxy S II. So many customers buy the i9103.
Some of the custom telecom versions out there:
Hutchinson 3 Samsung Galaxy R i9103
O2 Samsung Galaxy R i9103
Vodafone Samsung Galaxy R i9103
Mobilcom Debitel Samsung Galaxy R i9103
T-Mobile/Telekom Samsung Galaxy R i9103
Telco Samsung Galaxy R i9103
Base Samsung Galaxy R i9103
Talkline Samsung Galaxy R i9103
E-Plus Samsung Galaxy R i9103
Hope we soon get our own forum or we will have to use the i9100 forum.
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tegra now?...why so late???omg...
Its already available in India since a month. Its more like a Dual Core version of Galaxy S rather than S2. It has almost same features of Galaxy S except for dual core. 5 MP cam, 512 Mb Ram, 4.1 inch SLCD screen etc.
http://www.flipkart.com/mobiles/sam...qw--&ref=16a7bad0-7777-4e16-b755-cc8f2840eccc
it has 1GB RAM 4.19" and SLCD and flash LED.
I don't think this counts as a Galaxy S II, or even a Galaxy S device...
The closer aproach would be like an S2 SCL. S is i9000 and S SCL I9003, this is I9103 and S2 is the original I9100, so more or less like S2 SCL.
But it's Galaxy R (with different hw)...not Galaxy S2...though the code is I9103...very strange...
I have a Galaxy R (i9103) and a Galaxy S (i9000).
Galaxy R is a nice phone. Very very fast and good looking. I think it is very similar to the S2 (i9100) because it looks like it has the same crap implementation of the Yahama DAC. Galaxy S sounds waaay better with Voodoo Sound and I am still using it as my personal phone.
If the only difference is the CPU+GPU part, S2 ROMs may be kind of "compatible". Changing the kernel and other details could be the only needed actions to get some proper ROMs for this phone.
Endoran said:
I don't think this counts as a Galaxy S II, or even a Galaxy S device...
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S II Tegra is one of its names. And it is faster then SII:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19879762
legion1911 said:
S II Tegra is one of its names. And it is faster then SII:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19879762
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Lol? Mali plus exynos is a way more faster than tegra crap.
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Tegra 2 is Android reference design for Android tablets. So it is not crap.
The Galaxy Tab 10.1 is also Tegra 2.
The Galaxy R does everything a Galaxy Tab 10.1 does, but it fits into the pocket of your Jeans.
"The Samsung Galaxy R I9103 is an Android smartphone that was announced by Samsung on August 10, 2011 as a variant to the Samsung Galaxy S II."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_R
"The Samsung Galaxy R is one of the currently available variants of the Galaxy S II."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_S_II
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S II Tegra is one of its names. And it is faster then SII:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19879762
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Lol its very well documented that Mali is (a lot) faster than tegra II...
please don't start this again and do your researches before posting random benchmarks trying to prove something that's not true...
If benchmark scores were to be taken seriously, I can have higher scores than yours without overclocking my phone as you did to get those scores...
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The back of the phone looks better than our Exynos models... we still blow every phone out of the water though in terms of performance .
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Teio said:
Lol its very well documented that Mali is (a lot) faster than tegra II...
please don't start this again and do your researches before posting random benchmarks trying to prove something that's not true...
If benchmark scores were to be taken seriously, I can have higher scores than yours without overclocking my phone as you did to get those scores...
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The back of the phone looks better than our Exynos models... we still blow every phone out of the water though in terms of performance .
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a lot (by hair)
Blow (blow job)
truth to be told it's not worthy upgrade to original SGS wahahahahahaha
you'r just trying to justify great amount of cash spent
you too
thought i was the only one with an s2 and still using my galaxy s as my daily phone.. for same reason. crap sound chip, also slow gps lock times.
josjator said:
I have a Galaxy R (i9103) and a Galaxy S (i9000).
Galaxy R is a nice phone. Very very fast and good looking. I think it is very similar to the S2 (i9100) because it looks like it has the same crap implementation of the Yahama DAC. Galaxy S sounds waaay better with Voodoo Sound and I am still using it as my personal phone.
If the only difference is the CPU+GPU part, S2 ROMs may be kind of "compatible". Changing the kernel and other details could be the only needed actions to get some proper ROMs for this phone.
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whats faster S2 tegra or exynos? I haven could to test the tegra ...
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whats faster S2 tegra or exynos? I haven could to test the tegra ...
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Search?
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Can someone check the DAC on this phone? Also, does it support USB OTG and MHL?
samsung galxy r i9103 usb on the go!!!
can u tell me if this device supports usb on the go just lyk its big brother s2?????????
Teio said:
If benchmark scores were to be taken seriously, I can have higher scores than yours without overclocking my phone as you did to get those scores...
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On custom roms for sure Come on, why should you overclock if you have originally faster cpu (1,2 vs 1,0) ?
I tested both handsets (stock roms) and results of quadrant, smartbench, cf... were almost the same, little higher in favor of sgs2 (1,2 ghz ex compared to tegra's 1 ghz). Clocked to 1.2 ghz tegra had slightly better scores in every test.
No need to argue about that, I know what experts say about exynos' and tegra's performance. The thing is that for average user is really hard to notice which of those two handsets is snappier.

North American Samsung Galaxy S III LTE Hands-on

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bq3E_RfzxE&feature=g-u-u
You're welcome!
Benchmarks?
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SlimJ87D said:
Benchmarks?
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End of the video?
madhad said:
End of the video?
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Awesome. Gf is sleeping can't watch. How much ram is actually available after adreno and the 4g lte takes up some ram?
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youtube blocked at work, can someone please summarize the video?
tsukurimashou said:
youtube blocked at work, can someone please summarize the video?
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Good 14min summary of the phone. Much like every other S3 video. Does two benchmarks at the end.
Speed test gives ~21mb down and ~11 up.
quadrant was blazing fast during the benchmark. Scored 5099, beating everything in the market.
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Thanks! What is the score for the int edition? Is he talking about battery life in the video?
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Good 14min summary of the phone. Much like every other S3 video. Does two benchmarks at the end.
Speed test gives ~21mb down and ~11 up.
quadrant was blazing fast during the benchmark. Scored 5099, beating everything in the market.
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The international version gets around 5665. Just saying.
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I have the international quad core version. Benchmark around 5200 - 5400 everyttime. The advantage comes from mostly the cpu score where all cores are used. However apart from benchmarks, I never saw more than 2 cores being used.
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I have the international quad core version. Benchmark around 5200 - 5400 everyttime. The advantage comes from mostly the cpu score where all cores are used. However apart from benchmarks, I never saw more than 2 cores being used.
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Quadrant is the worst benchmark to compare anything to now a days.
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Quadrant is the worst benchmark to compare anything to now a days.
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It has suddenly become the worse benchmark because somehow the dual core s4 can keep up with the tegra 3 and not far off exynos 4. People like to see benchmarks that's plays to their devices advantages. Antutu has become the new favorite as it scales well to four cores and not that critical of tegra 3 and exynos lack of memory bandwidth/ IO performance against krait. However in realworld usage I would say even quadrant paints an over optimistic idea of actual performance for quad core devices. Despite similar quadrant scores, multiple users who have both commented on faster and more fluid experience on the krait chip.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1685030
Why do people argue over benchmarks? Both the s4 and exynos are fast and fluid and won't go wrong with either.
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Wonder if the 2GB of RAM will help the S4 not lag. Especially while doing the popup video.
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Wonder if the 2GB of RAM will help the S4 not lag. Especially while doing the popup video.
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Pop up video doesnt lag on my quad core version. However i am experiencing out of memory home screen restarts and browser crashed when opening too many tabs with flash enabled. My music player also auto quits sometimes when open up a new tab in browser or using any other memory hungry apps. Very annoying.
I have noticed using TouchWiz/Apex was causing the phone to lag a lot. I switched to Nova and the experience is smooth as silk. No freezing or ram issues yet, and i normally have 20 tabs open on Opera Mini + Music playing and whatsapp + email + gtalk+ wordfeud + a calendar widget + Gtasks widget
Opera Mini does its own memory management tho, clears pages once in a while, but not often.
edit - using the international quad core version -
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Thanks! What is the score for the int edition? Is he talking about battery life in the video?
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He had used the phone for over 8 hours before filming and the battery was at 40%. Looks like a strong battery, should definitely last as long as other phones.
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So i guess, both the International version owners and the N American version owners have something to look forward to when Samsung actually releases the next generation Exynos. Maybe then, the phone will truly be Universal (same internals/user experience).
where is the branding on the back?
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It has suddenly become the worse benchmark because somehow the dual core s4 can keep up with the tegra 3 and not far off exynos 4. People like to see benchmarks that's plays to their devices advantages. Antutu has become the new favorite as it scales well to four cores and not that critical of tegra 3 and exynos lack of memory bandwidth/ IO performance against krait. However in realworld usage I would say even quadrant paints an over optimistic idea of actual performance for quad core devices. Despite similar quadrant scores, multiple users who have both commented on faster and more fluid experience on the krait chip.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1685030
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No, it's not programmed to bench current day processors that's why.
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Snapdragon 600 vs Snapdragon S4 Pro

Well our snapdragon s4 is now considered "old" which is a bummer! Had to happen at some point tho I suppose. So how does this new chip compare? Does anyone know what's been improved?
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fredcorp6 said:
Well our snapdragon s4 is now considered "old" which is a bummer! Had to happen at some point tho I suppose. So how does this new chip compare? Does anyone know what's been improved?
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The S4 Pro and the Snapdragon 600 are basically the same chip. The model number is almost identical (APQ8064 vs APQ8064T; the Plus, Prime, and 800 all have very different model numbers), same fab process at 28 nm, same L0, L1, and L2 caches, same GPU. The difference is higher clock speed (max 1.7 vs max 1.9 GHz), and potentially a faster/bigger memory channel.
By no means does the S4 Pro instantly become antiquated. Between it and the 600, they're more similar than they are different. The 800 is a different story...
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The S4 Pro and the Snapdragon 600 are basically the same chip. The model number is almost identical (APQ8064 vs APQ8064T; the Plus, Prime, and 800 all have very different model numbers), same fab process at 28 nm, same L0, L1, and L2 caches, same GPU. The difference is higher clock speed (max 1.7 vs max 1.9 GHz), and potentially a faster/bigger memory channel.
By no means does the S4 Pro instantly become antiquated. Between it and the 600, they're more similar than they are different. The 800 is a different story...
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I didn't think there was a big difference either between the 2, however the HTC one with the S600 is getting like 12000 on quadrant compared to the 5000 we get?
How do u explain that? I guess it could just be that quadrant isn't really optimised for our phones and is not giving accurate results.
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Well our snapdragon s4 is now considered "old" which is a bummer! Had to happen at some point tho I suppose. So how does this new chip compare? Does anyone know what's been improved?
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From anandtech:
[snapdragon 600] "This is quad core Krait 300 (as opposed to 200 in MSM8960 or APQ8064) which brings a 15 percent increase in IPC as well as higher clocks (from 1.5 to 1.7 GHz), for about 20–30 percent higher overall CPU performance"
20 - 30% So significant but not huge.
fredcorp6 said:
I didn't think there was a big difference either between the 2, however the HTC one with the S600 is getting like 12000 on quadrant compared to the 5000 we get?
How do u explain that? I guess it could just be that quadrant isn't really optimised for our phones and is not giving accurate results.
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I read on snapdragon s4 pro and compare it with spec of snapdragon 600 "the only" difference i got is memory technology, s4pro uses 533MHz LPDDR2 and 600 uses LPDDR3
Edit: our phone not made for benchmark, i read somewhere on google+ someone wrote about it.
Btw nexus is always behind in terms of benchmarking, but if you compare the smoothness even galaxy nexus is still so smooth.
Here is the link https://plus.google.com/u/0/101093310520661581786/posts/Q1yVmqtubG9 its exynos4 saga by one of exynos cm maintainer, but he give a reason why our benchmark not as good as optimus G.
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Why do people care so much about benchmark scores? Does it really matter? The only test that should matter is your eyeball.
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Exodian said:
Why do people care so much about benchmark scores? Does it really matter? The only test that should matter is your eyeball.
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+1 Please
Exodian said:
Why do people care so much about benchmark scores? Does it really matter? The only test that should matter is your eyeball.
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Well because sometimes its a good way of comparing the performance of 2 phones - unfortunately not the case with a nexus I've just learned. Eyeball is very subjective, benchmarks are not (well they shouldn't be!).
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lol @ benchmarks please welcome to technology soon as you bought the phone it was considered OLD !
But it is great to have both real smooth and high score benchmark
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S4 Pro is still quick and i can see it being developed in devices for another 2+ years. i would safely assume low end tablets would also start using it when the price of these chips are reduced
Never cared about benchmarks, Even with the PCs I build. I over clock my pcs as much as possible for REAL WORLD usage and as long as they allow me to do everything I want and more and visually everything looks and feels fine and is stable, I'm good to go. Same applies with these phones. The nexus has top of the line internals and stock android allows this phone to be the way it was meant to. Now I have flashed asylum which is awesome, and I have used just about every kernel. I do notice differences in kernels “cough, matrix is the best, cough", but the differences are “seat of the pants" which is a curse in my opinion. Benchmarking stresses components, and at the price of these things why take a chance of shortening its life.
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tuilalnvinh said:
But it is great to have both real smooth and high score benchmark
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benchmarks = just numbers if your phone feels right looks right this is all you need
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benchmarks = just numbers if your phone feels right looks right this is all you need
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That is my point right there.
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CheesyNutz said:
benchmarks = just numbers if your phone feels right looks right this is all you need
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My G2x used to get pretty high benchmarks... I hated that phone.
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Benchmarks do tell a part of the story. You can't say that a phone that scores barely 1000 on benchmarks is as fast as a phone that scores 5000. The numbers might fluctuate a little but you get the idea. Nexus4 scores pretty good on optimised benchmarks like antutu but doesn't score good on benchmark apps that haven't been updated for two years like quadrant.
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Benchmarks do tell a part of the story. You can't say that a phone that scores barely 1000 on benchmarks is as fast as a phone that scores 5000. The numbers might fluctuate a little but you get the idea. Nexus4 scores pretty good on optimised benchmarks like antutu but doesn't score good on benchmark apps that haven't been updated for two years like quadrant.
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Yeah its my understanding that quadrant is also really easy to spoof
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AW: Snapdragon 600 vs Snapdragon S4 Pro
So far I can see only devices with Android 4.1, or less, score pretty high with Krait cores. We havn't any other phone with 4.2 and snapdragon CPU to compare fairly.
The dual core S3 in my Xperia S doesn't feel any difference to the quad core S4 Pro in my Nexus 4 in every day use so i aint going to lose any sleep.
The number I heard thrown around was 40% faster on paper, or theoretically. Real world applications that may translate to less but still somewhat significant depending on your use case.
The kicker is it seems to still be the Adreno 320, is that higher clocked than the S4 Pro? If not it's pushing more pixels in the HTC One.

Can Note 3 beat iphone 5s in chess benchmark?

See world record by new iphone 5s which clearly on top all android phones right now...:
http://talkchess.com/forum/viewtopic.php?topic_view=threads&p=534985&t=43212
To see if Note 3 is near it all need to do is install droidfish app, set threads to 4 (in settings). From starting position, press M->"Analysis Mode" for 20-30 seconds and check the nps number at the bottom. (pls specifiy if snapdragon or exynos) - For example - see attachment from my note 2...
(EXYNOS - Cortex - VERSION REQUIRED FOR TESTING.)
I'll be honest, I've never heard of this benchmark and I'm struggling to see what I'm looking at here. .. but I ran it because I was curious. Good or bad?
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I have the snap dragon 800 version btw.
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I don't have a Note 3 (damn you Handtec!) but I do have a Snapdragon 800 device (Galaxy S4 LTE-A). When running the benchmark for 20s the score ranged from 560k to 640k.
The Note 3 may perform better, but the S4 didn't hit thermals. It appears that ARM implementations (i.e. Cortex cores) perform better in this benchmark than Krait ones looking at the thread you link to.
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I'll be honest, I've never heard of this benchmark and I'm struggling to see what I'm looking at here. .. but I ran it because I was curious. Good or bad?
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Did you set it to 4 threads in the settings menu? The score in your screenshot is lower than my Note 2...
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I have the snap dragon 800 version btw.
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You can look at the chart (at the link) to see its quite bad...But i wonder if Exynos cpu will do better.
Yep, set to 4 threads. It obviously doesn't like this test much then.
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haelio said:
I don't have a Note 3 (damn you Handtec!) but I do have a Snapdragon 800 device (Galaxy S4 LTE-A). When running the benchmark for 20s the score ranged from 560k to 640k.
The Note 3 may perform better, but the S4 didn't hit thermals. It appears that ARM implementations (i.e. Cortex cores) perform better in this benchmark than Krait ones looking at the thread you link to.
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You are right - it looks like Exynos will do better also on Note 3 - but i want formal test to approve it. (btw, S4 Exynos does 820knps...)
It's not only that benchmark comparisons are pretty much useless , this obscure one OP mentioned seems to be even more useless...
The only thing that is more useless than stuff like that, is mentioning iPhone on an Android forum and of course this thread itself...
It ought to be closed, really .....
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I ran it and it's ranging from 500k-600k-640- then back to 500's nps, snapdragon model.
Not sure what it means though.
betoNL said:
It's not only that benchmark comparisons are pretty much useless , this obscure one OP mentioned seems to be even more useless...
The only thing that is more useless than stuff like that, is mentioning iPhone on an Android forum and of course this thread itself...
It ought to be closed, really .....
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+1
Pointless thread
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betoNL said:
It's not only that benchmark comparisons are pretty much useless , this obscure one OP mentioned seems to be even more useless...
The only thing that is more useless than stuff like that, is mentioning iPhone on an Android forum and of course this thread itself...
It ought to be closed, really .....
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it is not useless as this is very demanding benchmark that pulls the juice out of the cpu....OK - we can ignore the iphone 5s since it is 64bits cpu which gives it real benefit in this kind of test...
But we need Note 3 Exynos result to complete the picture...
The benchmark does an infinite search using the engine. Useful to see how the processor and OS work together to accomplish this. This could also point to differences in design, not necessarily deficiencies.
If anything it will show how fast a chess AI using that engine on that hardware will process.
Real world application? Not so much.
its seems very useless benchmark
form my N2
MohJee said:
I ran it and it's ranging from 500k-600k-640- then back to 500's nps, snapdragon model.
Not sure what it means though.
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Short explanation:
http://chessprogramming.wikispaces.com/Nodes+per+second
Other processors (just to compare to PC/Servers...i know it is not fair..)
http://www.jens-hartmann.at/Fritzmarks/
yahyoh said:
its seems very useless benchmark
form my N2
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Same as mine...So, any bets on Note 3 Exynos result? Will it hit 1000k mark?
Need Exynos user to test
Please - if Someone has the Exynos version of the Note 3 - please test.
Someone with Exynos 5420 Note 3 to report result?
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M8 honestly you have a bet or something for this; you will buy a iPhone 5s or a note 3 from this chess thing; all the development of new phones like the 2 you mention are end up been judged by a chess game; I am happy that Apple and Samsung programmers are not Japanese because they would do harakiri
Don't misunderstand me but you can judge things better in your hands after a bit of usage and you can have better opinion easier than to fell to the placebo of benchmarking .
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I understand what you mean... But still benchmark is comparable tool to see which phone will perform better under heavy computation load which tests cpu caches, memory speed, etc - highly tested on chess benchmark on which i know exactly whats is tested compared to other benchmarks that tests so many things and sometimes the result does not mean too much...
It os not only chess - it implies also to other distributed computation workloads - maybe you think who cares for those workloads - but still it gives you insight of the power of the phone in case you will be interested to use it for those workloads.
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