So I just bought my girl a G2, and I am waiting for the tab. I was very impressed with teh speed of the g2 and its perfomance in all games. I was really wondering since the galaxy s scored even below the nexus one with 2.2 on it in a benchmarking review. how do you think the tab will do?
Everything seems to be the same from the galaxy s to the tab... so does anyone expect the tablet to perform slower than say the g2? Or what about aleast better than the Galaxy s?
Also is the chipset in the tab the same as the one in the galaxy s? Or are their minor differences?
I can assure you that the galaxy tab will be plenty fast on 2.2 I have a samsung galaxy s (captivate) running 2.2 and I never have lag you cannot compare the galaxy s series though quadrant scores as that benchmark is biased to the snap dragon processor which the galaxy s does not run on.
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I can assure you that the galaxy tab will be plenty fast on 2.2 I have a samsung galaxy s (captivate) running 2.2 and I never have lag you cannot compare the galaxy s series though quadrant scores as that benchmark is biased to the snap dragon processor which the galaxy s does not run on.
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Quadrant scores dont count for everything, and its hardly biased, snapdragon does better at the I/O tests more than anything. My Desire on a myTouch 4G port is quicker than stock Android roms according to quadrant.
Make sense of that
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laxwillsch said:
I can assure you that the galaxy tab will be plenty fast on 2.2 I have a samsung galaxy s (captivate) running 2.2 and I never have lag you cannot compare the galaxy s series though quadrant scores as that benchmark is biased to the snap dragon processor which the galaxy s does not run on.
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lol, No it's not.
Stock vs Stock The G2 beat the Galaxy S at every bench mark I've put on them
(5 total) except CPU benchmark and those scores were 812 for the G2 vs 799 on the Galaxy S ( lower the better )
The g2 has the latest snapdragon, it will be a little faster than the galaxy s in cpu benchmarks once overclocked. This is what happens when google coded froyo optimization's for only one cpu type, before that we kicked snapdragon ass
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lol, No it's not.
Stock vs Stock The G2 beat the Galaxy S at every bench mark I've put on them
(5 total) except CPU benchmark and those scores were 812 for the G2 vs 799 on the Galaxy S ( lower the better )
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JIT.
RFS.
go read up on those before you go around correcting people on what's better than what. Benchmarks don't mean a thing. There's a reason why people like Cyanogen don't trust them.
It's kinda hard or weird (or pointless) to compare SGS and Tab CPU and GPU wise, since they both have THE EXACT SAME HARDWARE as long as those are concerned... They both run on the Samsung-built 1GHz Hummingbird chip (that includes the PowerVR GPU). So as long as only CPU/GPU are benchmarked, hardware-wise the SGS and Tab are identical.
Now, comparing those two on a general level makes more sense as they are bound to have small software differences. (At least my Tab does not have the 'SGS-lag' present at all and generally feels smoother to operate)
tl;dr: Basically Galaxy Tab = SGS with different screen, no real point comparing these two extensively
But they must have done a lot of tweaking on the tab that has yet to be ported to the S(if it ever does....).
Seriously, the Tab is smooth as silk, runs like you'd want and as we all know, essentially the same hardware, 2.2 and even RFS.
Also, benchmarks are worthless. My Galaxy S, with Docs JPO 7.5 ROM, ULF ext4 lagfix (no overkill here, not a score whore) gets around 1500 on quadthingy. My Tab, stock, gets around 900-1000. Yet the Tab is sooo much smoother, even with all my tweaks on the S. linpack is pretty much the same (as you'd expect) and I can't be bothered after that.
The only test that matters, usability, favours the Tab.
If I could get the stock Tab rom/fw/whatever onto my S, I'd be a happy camper.
That and a decent browser (dolphin doesn't do it for me either, just don't like it, gotta try the firefox alpha/beta/whatever)
I think the galaxy tab gpu is clocked at higher speed than the s,using neocore it gives same fbs as. Galaxy s although tab has higher resolution and also tab is announced with 1080p playback while galaxy s is anounced with 720 p correct if im wrong
Both equally good. If size does matter, big and small screen, your choice. For me, tab is best.
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tab performs significantly worse as it has a bigger screen to power + more pixels.
But the tab 8.9 and sgs 2 (dual cores) will be a good match!
spekesel said:
But they must have done a lot of tweaking on the tab that has yet to be ported to the S(if it ever does....).
Seriously, the Tab is smooth as silk, runs like you'd want and as we all know, essentially the same hardware, 2.2 and even RFS.
Also, benchmarks are worthless. My Galaxy S, with Docs JPO 7.5 ROM, ULF ext4 lagfix (no overkill here, not a score whore) gets around 1500 on quadthingy. My Tab, stock, gets around 900-1000. Yet the Tab is sooo much smoother, even with all my tweaks on the S. linpack is pretty much the same (as you'd expect) and I can't be bothered after that.
The only test that matters, usability, favours the Tab.
If I could get the stock Tab rom/fw/whatever onto my S, I'd be a happy camper.
That and a decent browser (dolphin doesn't do it for me either, just don't like it, gotta try the firefox alpha/beta/whatever)
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my tab isnt smooth at all!
I preffer sgs.
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A comparison Nexus One with Galaxy S, both of them running Android 2.2 Froyo:
Hummingbird vs Snapdragon: Rumble in the processor jungle
Linpack test
Galaxy S (Hummingbird): 14
Nexus One (Snapdragon): 30
Benchmark by Softweg CPU test
Galaxy S (Hummingbird): 1,700
Nexus One (Snapdragon): 2,200
Benchmark by Softweg 2D graphics test
Galaxy S (Hummingbird): 31
Nexus One (Snapdragon): 28
Neocore 3D graphics test
Galaxy S (Hummingbird): 55.7
Nexus One (Snapdragon): 28.4
So basically if you don't play 3D games, the Nexus One is faster. And the Snapdragon is much faster than Hummingbird...
Nexus S with FroYo? oO
Nexus One with stock 2.2 or custom ROM(CM\etc)?
Those are benchmarks between a Galaxy S with a customized Android vs a Nexus One with vanilla Android, not a Nexus S.
If you want a comparison between N1 and NS, here you go:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4059/nexus-s-and-android-23-review-gingerbread-for-the-holidays/8
You'll see that some things ran better on the N1, but in general the Hummingbird is noticeably faster than the early gen Snapdragon used in the N1.
The 3D performance difference is massive as well. It's hard to ignore that.
i think what that anandtech article shows more than anything is how the tmobile mytouch4g's hardware's potential is being wasted on terrible software
Ya, the title of the post is a little misleading....
I said ages ago when I swapped from my extremely buggy SGS to the N1 that in the real world, the N1 was actually the faster phone in day to day use (3D games excepted).
I for one don't play that many games, but that doesn't mean I wouldn't use psx emulator if I had a pimped gpu. Nexus one is not slow by any means...
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I had a Vibrant and of course now own a Nexus One. The Vibrant definitely has the faster processor despite what you guys may think. The Nexus One software is very smooth so that's why it is faster. If the Vibrant/Galaxy S software was a pure google/vanilla based rom then you'd see. When playing games on Nexus vs Vibrant you'd notice that the Nexus has less fps while the Vibrant/Galaxy S appears to not lose any fps. That doesn't mean that the Nexus One isn't a good phone. It just depends on what you want in a phone. Both have its share of pros and cons.
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Depends on your needs...For me, the N1 continues to rock against all others!
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{............}When playing games on Nexus vs Vibrant you'd notice that the Nexus has less fps while the Vibrant/Galaxy S appears to not lose any fps. {.......}
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that has to do with gpu...not cpu
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I said ages ago when I swapped from my extremely buggy SGS to the N1 that in the real world, the N1 was actually the faster phone in day to day use (3D games excepted).
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Maybe because SGS had buggy software? I own both N1 and NS and the NS feels faster. Things open faster an there isnt any lag or hitching except in the browser. NS speed is especially noticeable in maps
There's no doubt that the nexus one snapdragon performs better for certain types of computational tasks over the hummingbird CPU. Benchmarks show this. And It's been said that android has been better tweakdd to use snapdragon CPU to make things like menu scrolling and browser performance better on the nexus one.
But Samsung has a patch to fix this and use its much more powerful graphics chip, but that only released for galaxy s phones, not yet for the nexus s. It's only a matter of time before they give this patch to the nexus s and then it may crush the nexus one.
I've noticed my nexus one was actually smoother scrolling the settings menu over the nexus s, In a few other areas too.
Now that's better mm? What do you think
http://www.inspiredgeek.com/2011/03...4210-vs-tegra-2-which-version-will-be-better/
http://smartphonebenchmarks.com/for...xy-s2-featuring-samsung-exynos-4210-revealed/
Feel free to comment, interpret and discuss. This is the latest I could find.
Links to benchmark of a tablet using same CPU/GPU and same clock frequency
as SGS2. Exynos seems capable to do much better than in the benchmarks you included.
It could be a indication that the SGS2 SW is pretty old.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12361281&postcount=377
The tablet benchmark is pretty impressive. Even with its higher resolution, it beats tegra. Hopefully the performance will reflect on the Galaxy S 2.
Impressive benchmark. I didn't know about GPU Exynos is good.
But battery draining is less maybe!
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These benchmarks are not new at all, they are here for weeks, get up...
LG Optimus Speed kicks SGS2's Ass?
Check this out!
http://translate.google.com/transla...est-lg-optimus-speed-schneller-als-galaxy-s2/
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Check this out!
http://translate.google.com/transla...est-lg-optimus-speed-schneller-als-galaxy-s2/
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Nice to see a tuned LG getting hi bench.
Real question is, what will the SGS2 get when it;s tuned.
Or what will the 2 devices straight out the box score (as most consumers will use it that way).
These benchmarks are for the e-penis , what counts how fast it feels , how it feels in the hand , how the ui is , how the sound is , how the camera is and what it can run smoothly and countless other things.
Still a good result for the sgs2 though , big quadrant scores and all stock. We all how Quadrant can drastically change with lil changes.
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It looks like it s not even an O2X ! I bet it s a Nexus S looking at the top bar, an overclocked Nexus S
Btw everyone know that quadrant is flawed
I think this is the Tegra version known as i9101 or i9103?
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_z_appears_in_sweden_tegra_2_42inch_sclcd-news-2838.php
Wow, that's an Iphone replica Just kidding. Still voting for my lovely yellow tinted SII
You can see a quick preview here :
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i9103_galaxy_z-review-614.php
I wanted to buy a galaxy s but now i'm hesitating
This is going to smother the LG O2X. Samsung plans on controlling the market for high end androids and it looks like its going to succeed by having a galaxy at every possible pricepoint.
Why would you hesitate as its not as good as the s2, dual 1ghz, 720p recording, no s-amoled screen and 8gb storage seems to be a more entry level version than anything else.
Tegra 2 beats Exynos once all the variables are similar.
~4000 quadrant stock and still clocked lower.
LOL
KingKuba13 said:
Tegra 2 beats Exynos once all the variables are similar.
~4000 quadrant stock and still clocked lower.
LOL
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well, take that with a grain of salt, why is Galaxy Z 50% faster in quadrant than LG O2X using the same platform?
It looks more like a face-lifted Galaxy S than a SGS2 variant.
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well, take that with a grain of salt, why is Galaxy Z 50% faster in quadrant than LG O2X using the same platform?
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Twice the RAM than O2X for one and probably clocked to 1.2ghz (1ghz O2X).
This is the baby version of s2.
was this the rumoured sgs3 ?
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Why would you hesitate as its not as good as the s2, dual 1ghz, 720p recording, no s-amoled screen and 8gb storage seems to be a more entry level version than anything else.
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Tegra 2 clocks higher (faster clock vs clock), more optimized applications, other Tegra 2 devices are recording in 1080p (so that would come in later update/mod), Super LCD is just as good if not better than Super AMOLED+ w/ no yellowing/uneven colors with better color accuracy (also it is a 24-bit screen vs 16).
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Why would you hesitate as its not as good as the s2, dual 1ghz, 720p recording, no s-amoled screen and 8gb storage seems to be a more entry level version than anything else.
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If Tegra2 is entry level then damn we've come a long way in the past few months I know what you mean though. I'm a geek so it's no choice in my mind either, I'd still have bought the S2 if these two devices were released together. But if this is priced nicely it could reach a whole other group of consumers that the S2 was too rich for.
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1 I'd still have bought the S2 if these two devices were released together.
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+1
The SGSZ also doesn't appear to have HDMI, Wi-Fi Direct, USB2G, and Bluetooth 3.0. Let's hope it doesn't have the SGS1 GPS chip.
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Tegra 2 beats Exynos once all the variables are similar.
~4000 quadrant stock and still clocked lower.
LOL
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This means absolutely nothing. SGS2 can't go higher than 60fps, after all that's the screen refresh rate so anything higher is just a waste of battery. Now you might want to ask yourself why Tegra 2's fps limit is higher. Nvidia have been in the game a long time, they know how to cheat in benchmarks.
Besides you should compare benchmarks that pushes these phones, Quadrant is very flawed and afaik not even multithreaded. I managed to score 1700 with my old Legend with a 600 MHz ARMv11 CPU clocked to 786 and data2ext hack.
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quadrant standard isnt the best way to decide on the speed. Even some of our own rom devs for the s2 can cook a hack into the rom. I have already benched in the 4000's on the old lite'ning rom. Its not hard. BTW, tegra is nice and all because im an nvidia fan, but it is not better if you ask me-maybe once properly optimized it will be better for gaming, but i couldnt care less about ps1 graphics on a phone.
Rex-tc! im surprised to see you here! You tried your best to defend the atrix yet you post here!!! Coming over to the darkside i c
Wrong naming schema. Should be Galaxy S2 - Lite
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Wrong naming schema. Should be Galaxy S2 - Lite
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Or HiPhone 5
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Or HiPhone 5
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Sorry to break the myth, it already exists
It's no GS2.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bq3E_RfzxE&feature=g-u-u
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Benchmarks?
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Benchmarks?
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End of the video?
madhad said:
End of the video?
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Awesome. Gf is sleeping can't watch. How much ram is actually available after adreno and the 4g lte takes up some ram?
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youtube blocked at work, can someone please summarize the video?
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youtube blocked at work, can someone please summarize the video?
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Good 14min summary of the phone. Much like every other S3 video. Does two benchmarks at the end.
Speed test gives ~21mb down and ~11 up.
quadrant was blazing fast during the benchmark. Scored 5099, beating everything in the market.
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Thanks! What is the score for the int edition? Is he talking about battery life in the video?
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Good 14min summary of the phone. Much like every other S3 video. Does two benchmarks at the end.
Speed test gives ~21mb down and ~11 up.
quadrant was blazing fast during the benchmark. Scored 5099, beating everything in the market.
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The international version gets around 5665. Just saying.
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I have the international quad core version. Benchmark around 5200 - 5400 everyttime. The advantage comes from mostly the cpu score where all cores are used. However apart from benchmarks, I never saw more than 2 cores being used.
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I have the international quad core version. Benchmark around 5200 - 5400 everyttime. The advantage comes from mostly the cpu score where all cores are used. However apart from benchmarks, I never saw more than 2 cores being used.
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Quadrant is the worst benchmark to compare anything to now a days.
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Quadrant is the worst benchmark to compare anything to now a days.
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It has suddenly become the worse benchmark because somehow the dual core s4 can keep up with the tegra 3 and not far off exynos 4. People like to see benchmarks that's plays to their devices advantages. Antutu has become the new favorite as it scales well to four cores and not that critical of tegra 3 and exynos lack of memory bandwidth/ IO performance against krait. However in realworld usage I would say even quadrant paints an over optimistic idea of actual performance for quad core devices. Despite similar quadrant scores, multiple users who have both commented on faster and more fluid experience on the krait chip.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1685030
Why do people argue over benchmarks? Both the s4 and exynos are fast and fluid and won't go wrong with either.
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Wonder if the 2GB of RAM will help the S4 not lag. Especially while doing the popup video.
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Wonder if the 2GB of RAM will help the S4 not lag. Especially while doing the popup video.
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Pop up video doesnt lag on my quad core version. However i am experiencing out of memory home screen restarts and browser crashed when opening too many tabs with flash enabled. My music player also auto quits sometimes when open up a new tab in browser or using any other memory hungry apps. Very annoying.
I have noticed using TouchWiz/Apex was causing the phone to lag a lot. I switched to Nova and the experience is smooth as silk. No freezing or ram issues yet, and i normally have 20 tabs open on Opera Mini + Music playing and whatsapp + email + gtalk+ wordfeud + a calendar widget + Gtasks widget
Opera Mini does its own memory management tho, clears pages once in a while, but not often.
edit - using the international quad core version -
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Thanks! What is the score for the int edition? Is he talking about battery life in the video?
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He had used the phone for over 8 hours before filming and the battery was at 40%. Looks like a strong battery, should definitely last as long as other phones.
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So i guess, both the International version owners and the N American version owners have something to look forward to when Samsung actually releases the next generation Exynos. Maybe then, the phone will truly be Universal (same internals/user experience).
where is the branding on the back?
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It has suddenly become the worse benchmark because somehow the dual core s4 can keep up with the tegra 3 and not far off exynos 4. People like to see benchmarks that's plays to their devices advantages. Antutu has become the new favorite as it scales well to four cores and not that critical of tegra 3 and exynos lack of memory bandwidth/ IO performance against krait. However in realworld usage I would say even quadrant paints an over optimistic idea of actual performance for quad core devices. Despite similar quadrant scores, multiple users who have both commented on faster and more fluid experience on the krait chip.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1685030
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No, it's not programmed to bench current day processors that's why.
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The Nexus 7 should be very "powerful" as promised by Google!
Quad-core 1.3 GHz Tegra 3 processor vs Dual-core 1.2 GHz Cortex-A9... the Nexus is a Giant in CPU performance, but the UI isn't smoother than Galaxy S2, indeed it seems that the UI hardship to drag from one screen to another, is not at all fluid! in some case this is irritating!
At this point the Mali GPU of the Galaxy S2 it's a big point over the perfmance!
Anyone have the same observation about the UI smoothness of the S2 vs the Nexus 7?
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The Nexus 7 should be very "powerful" as promised by Google!
Quad-core 1.3 GHz Tegra 3 processor vs Dual-core 1.2 GHz Cortex-A9... the Nexus is a Giant in CPU performance, but the UI isn't smoother than Galaxy S2, indeed it seems that the UI hardship to drag from one screen to another, is not at all fluid! in some case this is irritating!
At this point the Mali GPU of the Galaxy S2 it's a big point over the perfmance!
Anyone have the same observation about the UI smoothness of the S2 vs the Nexus 7?
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Are you comparing stock with stock? Personally, I find both stock and most roms very smooth. I don't have a GS2 but its definitely a lot smoother than the phones I have played on, including the GS2 on ICS stock.
What did you do to it? I use a SGS3 at work (I'm a software engineer currently developing a proprietary android app for my company) and the Nexus 7 is just as "smooth" if not smoother. You realize as soon as you install apps or modify it in any way the comparison to another device is not fair because it's not on even footing, right? Take it and the S2 back to stock with a factory reset and then compare them. It's entirely possible that apps that you choose to install will affect the performance of the device, even when they are not running.
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What did you do to it? I use a SGS3 at work (I'm a software engineer currently developing a proprietary android app for my company) and the Nexus 7 is just as "smooth" if not smoother. You realize as soon as you install apps or modify it in any way the comparison to another device is not fair because it's not on even footing, right? Take it and the S2 back to stock with a factory reset and then compare them. It's entirely possible that apps that you choose to install will affect the performance of the device, even when they are not running.
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The Nexus7 and the S2 have the same Apex Launcher, the same LWP, and around the same software installed, the kernel is about to stock (excepted for the rooting) on both device, and the software installed is pretty the same (maybe the S2 have some apps plus rather the N7).
The Stock S2 is not AOSP (is Samsung full of bloatware) as in N7, so compairing the stock isn't to right... so I've installed in my S2 the SuperNexus (AOSP JB) to compare with N7 (AOSP JB).
Exist a benchmark to test the smoothness of the UI? instead of the CPU benchmark?
The difference of smoothness I've found maybe can be imputed to the different screen resolution? (1280x800 vs 480x800)
I don't know what you've done to your N7 but that just sounds ridiculous. I have a Galaxy S2 and have used that many ROMs & Kernels on it I care not to mention.
But still it has never even come close to the N7's stock experience, in fact the only thing I use my S2 for now is phone calls. This bad boy goes everywhere with me now tethered to my phone when I'm not at home.
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After a lot of trying I've found that my LWP scrool smooth on S2 but not on N7... maybe it's a code related question (about Mali driver?).
Comparing the speed of the excution of the various apps the N7 is greater, but regarding the smoothness of the UI the S2 is equal to N7 (maybe a little bit greater).
At this point I must say thanks to the developer of the S2 ROM and the "optimized Mali driver for project butter"?
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After a lot of trying I've found that my LWP scrool smooth on S2 but not on N7... maybe it's a code related question (about Mali driver?).
Comparing the speed of the excution of the various apps the N7 is greater, but regarding the smoothness of the UI the S2 is equal to N7 (maybe a little bit greater).
At this point I must say thanks to the developer of the S2 ROM and the "optimized Mali driver for project butter"?
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Is this an AOSP or touchwiz rom?
Because I remember codeworkx himself saying that the exynos S2 will never have full project butter and JB stuff because of all the closed source drivers and stuff samsung uses. He said that the OMAP version had a smoother UI, so I doubt it comes close to the N7. Unless you're using the omap version
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Is this an AOSP or touchwiz rom?
Because I remember codeworkx himself saying that the exynos S2 will never have full project butter and JB stuff because of all the closed source drivers and stuff samsung uses. He said that the OMAP version had a smoother UI, so I doubt it comes close to the N7. Unless you're using the omap version
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Mine is an AOSP ROM (based on CM10) so... I've been heard about OMAP, but I don't know what is on details...