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NEXUS S?

hi guys,
i'm new to this forum..currently, i'm doing some research for SNS as i'm going to make a choice between this device or other HTC devices. Regrettable choice is intolerable! I was totally confuse really. I heard there are some recognizable problems with SNS such as no LED notification, no fm radios, bad compass and etc. So i would like to ask, whether this phone is worth to grab, and what make it so special compare to other phone?
i'm using a lot of gps for navigation, and i used to sync a lot to fb and my google account, and imap for e-mail is very crucial for me. USB Thetering or bluetooth tethering is available here? i used to chase custom roms when i was with my htc phones before for performance improvement. Sometimes, i made a good time playing games from my phone to release tension. so does this phone still worth for me?
if there's anyone coming from DHD, did you satisfied migrating to SNS?
Thanks

I'm coming from dhd and i am pretty satisfied...
Dhd battery is awful and the screen is really bad too. I really dont care about the fm lack, i never used it in my old phones. And for led notification i use bln and it works just fine.
Dhd is too big, and despite htc's fame for making devices with good materials, i really dont like dhd build construction, my volume button doesn't last three months, also my power button. The speaker is really low and in call volume isn't the best thing either.
I really like my nxs, sure i miss some things from dhd (like the ram amount), but the overall experience is really better...
edit: ah, the thing i really miss is the browser. Nexus browser is simply pathetic when compared to dhd one
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dowhat87 said:
hi guys,
i'm new to this forum..currently, i'm doing some research for SNS as i'm going to make a choice between this device or other HTC devices. Regrettable choice is intolerable! I was totally confuse really. I heard there are some recognizable problems with SNS such as no LED notification, no fm radios, bad compass and etc. So i would like to ask, whether this phone is worth to grab, and what make it so special compare to other phone?
i'm using a lot of gps for navigation, and i used to sync a lot to fb and my google account, and imap for e-mail is very crucial for me. USB Thetering or bluetooth tethering is available here? i used to chase custom roms when i was with my htc phones before for performance improvement. Sometimes, i made a good time playing games from my phone to release tension. so does this phone still worth for me?
if there's anyone coming from DHD, did you satisfied migrating to SNS?
Thanks
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Gps is outstanding. All tethering is available. The nexus is a great choice as it seems to do everything better. I came from htc. The pure ginger bread feels like what other phones work towards. The custom roms are the most stable you will find. The phone is sexy with a curved screen and completely blacked out. I use gps every single day and always locks instantly. Over clocking makes it perform better than dual core, with out all the bugs of tegra.(still new) I have no regrets, fits perfect in pocket and sitting down doesn't feel like it will break in the pocket since the phones screen hugs your leg from the curve. Personally the size its great not rediculously large or too small, very classy to show off. And no lag...ever . If you want some extra features go with decks rom, it integrates cm7 features with fantastic bagreet life and a stock feel ..which is a very good thing on the nexus.
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thiagodark said:
I'm coming from dhd and i am pretty satisfied...
Dhd battery is awful and the screen is really bad too. I really dont care about the fm lack, i never used it in my old phones. And for led notification i use bln and it works just fine.
Dhd is too big, and despite htc's fame for making devices with good materials, i really dont like dhd build construction, my volume button doesn't last three months, also my power button. The speaker is really low and in call volume isn't the best thing either.
I really like my nxs, sure i miss some things from dhd (like the ram amount), but the overall experience is really better...
edit: ah, the thing i really miss is the browser. Nexus browser is simply pathetic when compared to dhd one
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jinsoku3g said:
Gps is outstanding. All tethering is available. The nexus is a great choice as it seems to do everything better. I came from htc. The pure ginger bread feels like what other phones work towards. The custom roms are the most stable you will find. The phone is sexy with a curved screen and completely blacked out. I use gps every single day and always locks instantly. Over clocking makes it perform better than dual core, with out all the bugs of tegra.(still new) I have no regrets, fits perfect in pocket and sitting down doesn't feel like it will break in the pocket since the phones screen hugs your leg from the curve. Personally the size its great not rediculously large or too small, very classy to show off. And no lag...ever . If you want some extra features go with decks rom, it integrates cm7 features with fantastic bagreet life and a stock feel ..which is a very good thing on the nexus.
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Wow..pretty nice explanation indeed. Enough to throw out my doubt. Nexus S will be my choice then. Ordered one, waiting for confirmation from retailer
Thanks a lot guys

dowhat87 said:
Wow..pretty nice explanation indeed. Enough to throw out my doubt. Nexus S will be my choice then. Ordered one, waiting for confirmation from retailer
Thanks a lot guys
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No problem..think about it..new firmware always goes to nexus first' then ported to other devices, now you get to have the actual piece of google
Welcome to the club
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Came from a Desire Z and Desire, the NS still feels snappier and gives more battery life. The only thing HTC has a upper hand on is the browser which is the best on any mobile platform! Sense is good but it really bogs down the system, plus it's just pure eye candy especially with sense 3.0

dowhat87 said:
Wow..pretty nice explanation indeed. Enough to throw out my doubt. Nexus S will be my choice then. Ordered one, waiting for confirmation from retailer
Thanks a lot guys
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I've had my NS for about 3 months now, and all flaws it had has been fixed.
Since this was my first smartphone, I don't know if my opinion really is of that much weight, but I love my phone, it's simply put amazing.
The screen is incredible.
The build quality doesn't leave anything to be desired.
The ROMs available are awesome.
The... eh screw that, it's just awesome in every aspect.
I can guarantee you this: you will NOT be disappointed.
Oh, and welcome to the NS forums
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cant wait to get the phone delivered. still, have to wait till end of this month
but, you guys are so friendly..i would be happy to join this community

I didn't come from a Desire HD but I have played with a Desire, and a Desire HD and personally owned a Xperia x10, and a Samsung Captivate...and recently bought an xperia Arc and traded it yesterday for a Nexus S.
The Nexus S is miles better than all the phones I listed above. Its just so fast and smooth...one word that comes to mind is slick. The build quality is amazing, the device is the most comfortable device I have ever used. Calling, texting, and web browsing is amazing and better than all listed above. I love this phone and think you will be very happy with it.
I know from now on the only Android device I will ever own is the Nexus line of phones, and they are googles baby so you'll always be looked after : )

hurrmmmm...sry for bumping up this thread..by the way, currently, I've been looking for i9020 but seems, it was pretty rare in malaysia..and if there is, the price was like +-300 for one amoled screen!! so guys, is it really worth it to aim for amoled, or i could just take i9023 for super clear lcd? hurmm

I also looked into nexus s , coming from desire and all htc bull**** with updates. How is screen in nexus s? Its not gorilla , easy to scratch? Also battery life? What about rom space , can we use all 16 gb or are there partitions? Thanx guys
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Xperia Z Development Potential

I got an Xperia Z the other day and....I love it to bits AND regret getting it. I love it because it's a looker and the UI is also close to AOSP. The fact that it's shock proof, dust proof and water proof helps a lot as I have to carry it to school everyday.
However, the phone really heats up, even if I'm generally browsing, watching videos or playing video games. By 'really' heats up, I mean the top part of it becomes extremely hot to touch, so much so that I often have to keep it aside to cool down. If I make a call immediately after this happens, my ear goes from pink to red. Also, the speakers, camera and screen colors are underwhelming to say the least.
What bothers me the most though, is the fact that this phone may never get 'offcial' custom rom support from popular devs, for example CM and AOSPA, because Sony are slow with updates, and with Key Lime Pie probably coming next month....I'll be disappointed if I'm unable to run it immediately on my phone. Now, I'm in no way asking developers to do this, but I'm asking if it'll be popular amongst developers in the long term. Sony are proactively supporting custom dev, but I don't know if that's going to help the XZ's case.
I'm coming from an HD2 and I regularly use my Nexus 7, so that might help you understand what I mean. I'll probably sell this and get a Nexus 4 / HTC One / Galaxy S4 depending on the replies I get in this thread. Please give me your honest opinions on this, thanks!

Zorua said:
I got an Xperia Z the other day and....I love it to bits AND regret getting it. I love it because it's a looker and the UI is also close to AOSP. The fact that it's shock proof, dust proof and water proof helps a lot as I have to carry it to school everyday.
However, the phone really heats up, even if I'm generally browsing, watching videos or playing video games. By 'really' heats up, I mean the top part of it becomes extremely hot to touch, so much so that I often have to keep it aside to cool down. If I make a call immediately after this happens, my ear goes from pink to red. Also, the speakers, camera and screen colors are underwhelming to say the least.
What bothers me the most though, is the fact that this phone may never get 'offcial' custom rom support from popular devs, for example CM and AOSPA, because Sony are slow with updates, and with Key Lime Pie probably coming next month....I'll be disappointed if I'm unable to run it immediately on my phone. Now, I'm in no way asking developers to do this, but I'm asking if it'll be popular amongst developers in the long term. Sony are proactively supporting custom dev, but I don't know if that's going to help the XZ's case.
I'm coming from an HD2 and I regularly use my Nexus 7, so that might help you understand what I mean. I'll probably sell this and get a Nexus 4 / HTC One / Galaxy S4 depending on the replies I get in this thread. Please give me your honest opinions on this, thanks!
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The heating issue is common because the device is thin and the processor is a beast. My previous phones had same issue, but I think this is normal because the chasis is thin and probably heat doesn't easily ventilate due to the water resistant feature, this is just a theory.
As for development, well the device has been available for about 2 months and already there are many custom roms for this. Personally, I am running the unofficial CM 10.1. Almost everything works expect for the camera yet and forgot to mention its very very smooth. There are great devs developing for this device and I think the future of this looks promising. Android 4.1 and the update 4.2.2 does almost everything and runs very smooth so why rush for next version. Sony has done a great job with their UI, unlike Samsung's girlish touchwiz UI.
All and all its a good phone, but ofcoz it needs improvement e.g. speaker, display. Then again no phone is perfect. If camera is not so important for you till it get fixed, try the unofficial CM 10.1, you will love it and its still in alpha stages of development.

The thing is Sony brings really good firmwares, it makes it hard for devs to make them even better. Actually Sony's firmwares are already completely optimized for the phone. It's not like Samsung with all the buggy releases.
About key lime pie, you won't see it on any device immediately after release, only nexus devices will get it really fast.
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krabappel2548 said:
The thing is Sony brings really good firmwares, it makes it hard for devs to make them even better. Actually Sony's firmwares are already completely optimized for the phone. It's not like Samsung with all the buggy releases.
About key lime pie, you won't see it on any device immediately after release, only nexus devices will get it really fast.
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+1
Sony seem to do a real good job with their firmwares. HTC's code for the One X was a joke..... bugs all over the place.

Rchard said:
The heating issue is common because the device is thin and the processor is a beast. My previous phones had same issue, but I think this is normal because the chasis is thin and probably heat doesn't easily ventilate due to the water resistant feature, this is just a theory.
As for development, well the device has been available for about 2 months and already there are many custom roms for this. Personally, I am running the unofficial CM 10.1. Almost everything works expect for the camera yet and forgot to mention its very very smooth. There are great devs developing for this device and I think the future of this looks promising. Android 4.1 and the update 4.2.2 does almost everything and runs very smooth so why rush for next version. Sony has done a great job with their UI, unlike Samsung's girlish touchwiz UI.
All and all its a good phone, but ofcoz it needs improvement e.g. speaker, display. Then again no phone is perfect. If camera is not so important for you till it get fixed, try the unofficial CM 10.1, you will love it and its still in alpha stages of development.
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Well yes, I do need the camera. And I've been using a One X lately, the heat level isn't nearly as close to what my XZ produces. The One X does get warm, but not hot. I've also used an N4, which as far as I know has the same processor, and it doesn't heat up at all.
krabappel2548 said:
The thing is Sony brings really good firmwares, it makes it hard for devs to make them even better. Actually Sony's firmwares are already completely optimized for the phone. It's not like Samsung with all the buggy releases.
About key lime pie, you won't see it on any device immediately after release, only nexus devices will get it really fast.
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Well, that's fine but Sony are very slow with their updates. Even the Galaxy S2 has an official 4.2.1 update, which it received before the XZ was even released.
I like custom roms because of the amount of customization and choices they offer, plus the statusbar and navbar look ugly, and the navbar is particularly huge. I'd much rather have a buggy custom rom over a stable, ugly stock rom.

Zorua said:
Well yes, I do need the camera. And I've been using a One X lately, the heat level isn't nearly as close to what my XZ produces. The One X does get warm, but not hot. I've also used an N4, which as far as I know has the same processor, and it doesn't heat up at all.
Well, that's fine but Sony are very slow with their updates. Even the Galaxy S2 has an official 4.2.1 update, which it received before the XZ was even released.
I like custom roms because of the amount of customization and choices they offer, plus the statusbar and navbar look ugly, and the navbar is particularly huge. I'd much rather have a buggy custom rom over a stable, ugly stock rom.
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Well there already are some custom roms
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I think you have wrong information.
1-XZ and N4 has same board not same cpu(xz has fusion3).
2- galaxy S2 has official 4.1.2 not 4.2.1
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My phone heats up, sure I think any phone does this.
Mine doesn't heat up anywhere near you're describing. It gets pretty much mellow when browsing, and only warm when playing games
And it's stone cold when you're on the phone.
Try using a small. Case it will protect you from heat. Not the phone itself though x)

Also, once the groundwork is done for something like CM bringup, we don't have to wait for Sony. Not when we have the same SoC as the Nexus 4 AND we have CodeAurora.
Also, Sony is getting much better with updates for their newer devices.
Last but not least, Sony cooperates more with CM developers than any other manufacturer. A LOT of former Samsung developers moved over to Sony in the past few months - you DO realize that every single Exynos4 (International GS2/Note/GS3/Note2 devices) CM maintainer now owns a Sony except espenfjo? (espen has been too busy to take on new devices lately, and hasn't even really worked on his older devices either.)

krabappel2548 said:
The thing is Sony brings really good firmwares, it makes it hard for devs to make them even better. Actually Sony's firmwares are already completely optimized for the phone. It's not like Samsung with all the buggy releases.
About key lime pie, you won't see it on any device immediately after release, only nexus devices will get it really fast.
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Coming from a long range of HTC and Samsung devices I must admit that I don't have the same need for flashing a new ROM evry second day, to find out if there are less bugs or better battery capacity. The stock Xperia Z ROMs seems superior to any creation from Samsung or HTC
My phone last for two days, everything on autosync and almost 5h screen time. My S2 and S3 would have died more than 35h earlier with the same usage.
I'm now running this stock based custom rom with a locked bootloader. The XZ is by far my best smartphone experience ever.

Entropy512 said:
Also, once the groundwork is done for something like CM bringup, we don't have to wait for Sony. Not when we have the same SoC as the Nexus 4 AND we have CodeAurora.
Also, Sony is getting much better with updates for their newer devices.
Last but not least, Sony cooperates more with CM developers than any other manufacturer. A LOT of former Samsung developers moved over to Sony in the past few months - you DO realize that every single Exynos4 (International GS2/Note/GS3/Note2 devices) CM maintainer now owns a Sony except espenfjo? (espen has been too busy to take on new devices lately, and hasn't even really worked on his older devices either.)
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Wow, I did not know that. Does that mean we're going to get more custom roms on the XZ, than say, the HTC One or Galaxy S4? Thanks a lot for taking the time to answer my questions.

Zorua said:
Wow, I did not know that. Does that mean we're going to get more custom roms on the XZ, than say, the HTC One or Galaxy S4? Thanks a lot for taking the time to answer my questions.
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Probably.
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Aman27deep said:
Probably.
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I doubt it - just based on past experiences. Samsung will sell so many Galaxy S4 units that there's bound to be more custom roms than the Xperia Z. Flagship HTC devices generally have many custom roms as well, even without S-Off. Hopefully I'm wrong!
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Enjoying the current Android 2.1 and after coming from a Galaxy S with cm-10.1 (Jellybean 4.2.2)
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paalkr said:
The stock Xperia Z ROMs seems superior to any creation from Samsung or HTC
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To be honest, after using CM for a long time on Samsung devices ( because Touchwiz... ) - I have to say that Sony XZ firmware is very close to AOSP. Very light with minimal amount of modifications. That's how you make an Android skin. I haven't even rooted my device because frankly i don't see the need to do it right now. Just waiting for fully working CM, then i'll try it.
Zorua said:
Wow, I did not know that. Does that mean we're going to get more custom roms on the XZ, than say, the HTC One or Galaxy S4? Thanks a lot for taking the time to answer my questions.
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No. You'll definitely see more custom Roms for Galaxy S4. Samsung is, and for a while will be much more popular than Sony. They'll sell huge amount of S4 - there's no doubt about it.
But quantity doesn't equal quality. Look what devs like Entropy have to say about this. We can expect CM working flawlessly on XZ after a while, which was impossible on certain Samsung phones due to lack of sources. So i'd rather have one, fully working CM release than 25 barely working "custom roms" that are no different from each other anyway.

Exactly!!!
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Zorua said:
Well yes, I do need the camera. And I've been using a One X lately, the heat level isn't nearly as close to what my XZ produces. The One X does get warm, but not hot. I've also used an N4, which as far as I know has the same processor, and it doesn't heat up at all.
Well, that's fine but Sony are very slow with their updates. Even the Galaxy S2 has an official 4.2.1 update, which it received before the XZ was even released.
I like custom roms because of the amount of customization and choices they offer, plus the statusbar and navbar look ugly, and the navbar is particularly huge. I'd much rather have a buggy custom rom over a stable, ugly stock rom.
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You want fast updates? Get a nexus. Tge Z doesn't live up to your expectations? Sell it and buy something else.
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luisoman2000 said:
You want fast updates? Get a nexus. Tge Z doesn't live up to your expectations? Sell it and buy something else.
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Thanks a lot for your valuable inputs, captain obvious!
On a serious note though, thanks a lot for all your suggestions, guys. Keep 'em coming. I think I'm going to keep the Z, can't get myself to sell it.

Akiainavas said:
No. You'll definitely see more custom Roms for Galaxy S4. Samsung is, and for a while will be much more popular than Sony. They'll sell huge amount of S4 - there's no doubt about it.
But quantity doesn't equal quality. Look what devs like Entropy have to say about this. We can expect CM working flawlessly on XZ after a while, which was impossible on certain Samsung phones due to lack of sources. So i'd rather have one, fully working CM release than 25 barely working "custom roms" that are no different from each other anyway.
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CM Developers passing on Samsung Galaxy S4
Maybe this time SGS4 won't have so many custom roms...

tbh.. i want to sell the nexus 4 and get the xperia z.. ive kinda been ripped off.. nexus 4 launched jan , cost 4.3k now costs 3k??? and xperia z launched march cost 5.6k now costs 4.3k... the pricing is near the nexus 4 .. i f i just waited.. ugh im so lazy.. i hope to see you guys on the next sony phone in 2 years (2015) < Xperia Z3 plz?
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[Q] Oppo find 5 vs Nexus 4

Hello everyone
I have a simple question.
What choose between nexus 4 and Oppo find 5?
I like Oppo find 5 for its camera and audio
But nexus is nexus

Fen24 said:
Hello everyone
I have a simple question.
What choose between nexus 4 and Oppo find 5?
I like Oppo find 5 for its camera and audio
But nexus is nexus
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Your simple question requires a quite long answer. If you're looking for a technical comparison you can look at a site like gsmarena.
I haven't had a Nexus 4 but from what I've heard the screen on the Find 5 is better. It's running full-HD instead of 1280x720, which makes it sharper, and the feel and response is just astonishing. From what I've heard the Nexus 4 has felt a bit faster and smoother, but that source is from before a few updates on the Find 5.
If you google around I'm sure you will find more details about software differences on these phones, but if you look at the hardware of these phones it feels like the Find 5 has the upper hand.

Better:
Screen
Camera
Build quality
(Subjective, but for me: ) Design
Storage
Battery
Same:
CPU
No 4G
RAM
Worse:
Out-of-the-box software, but when you're in xda you likely wont be using it
Price, but little difference when you're in europe

The hardware is without a doubt better on Oppo.
But i think that the community around the Nexus is the best.
developers will be interested to Oppo?
I don’t succeed to decide
I can buy a Oppo for 399 Euro vs Nexus 4 for 349 Euro.

Fen24 said:
The hardware is without a doubt better on Oppo.
But i think that the community around the Nexus is the best.
developers will be interested to Oppo?
I don’t succeed to decide
I can buy a Oppo for 399 Euro vs Nexus 4 for 349 Euro.
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It's actually 399 vs 359 (Google wants ~10 for shipping).
For me, the ~40 bucks difference alone is worth the far superior display and in my subjective view the design and built-quality - plus I like to support "underdogs".
As far as software goes, the Find 5 is one of the view non-Nexus devices getting official support from Paranoid, plus there is CM & PAC and a few other ones, not to forget Oppo keeps it's stock ROM updated very regularly so far (currently at least once per month).
The big question is, do you really really need Android updates the first day and thus maybe also getting severe overlooked bugs or can you live waiting a little longer, but getting the features of CM/PA/AOKP/etc? If you intend to keep stock Android, the Nexus is the obvious choice, but if you're interested at all in other ROMS, the little money extra for the Find5 is well worth it, imho.

Fen24 said:
The hardware is without a doubt better on Oppo.
But i think that the community around the Nexus is the best.
developers will be interested to Oppo?
I don’t succeed to decide
I can buy a Oppo for 399 Euro vs Nexus 4 for 349 Euro.
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I think you will be happy whichever device you choose. When you ask this question in this part of xda I think the answer always will be the Find 5, since we all got it. But anyways, I chose between these two devices before i decided to go with the Oppo. I didn't have any way of seeing the Find 5 (in real life) before I bought it, and I still chose it mainly because:
The Design
The Screen (I knew it was good from reviews)
Oppo's spirit of being very open to modding
The fact that not many have it in Sweden (or Europe). I guess the feeling to be hipster is quite tempting.
So, to sum it up I would like to recommend you into paying those few extra euros for getting the Find 5. You won't be dissapointed.

Rydberg1 said:
I think you will be happy whichever device you choose. When you ask this question in this part of xda I think the answer always will be the Find 5, since we all got it. But anyways, I chose between these two devices before i decided to go with the Oppo. I didn't have any way of seeing the Find 5 (in real life) before I bought it, and I still chose it mainly because:
The Design
The Screen (I knew it was good from reviews)
Oppo's spirit of being very open to modding
The fact that not many have it in Sweden (or Europe). I guess the feeling to be hipster is quite tempting.
So, to sum it up I would like to recommend you into paying those few extra euros for getting the Find 5. You won't be dissapointed.
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Thank you, everybody

Having just ordered a 32gb Find 5 I had the same question. Except I had experience of the Nexus 4 as my wife recently got it to replace her Note 1.
From setting it up for her, I must say it's an excellent phone for the money and unbelievably smooth. She loves it despite the drop in screen size (the dpi is greatly improved).
For me though, used to an Note 2, I'm interested in the IPS 1080 screen, build quality, and perhaps above all, that it's not mainstream. Plus the community around it sounds good.
The price is good albeit not as low N4 but the screen and design is worth the extra. I also found dropping to 4.7 inch screen a bit too much from the 5.55 Note 2. I'm hoping the 5 is the sweet spot whilst still being easy to use with one hand.
Tired of iPhone, Samsung's plastic design and Touchwiz. Oppo here I come.
-- From my N7102

Some guy is offering to trade his oppo find 5 for my Nexus 4. What should I do? I looked around and it seems development around here isn't as strong as the nexus 4 forums. But you find 5 people seem to love your phone.
Sent from that one guy with the cool phone

ayo234 said:
Some guy is offering to trade his oppo find 5 for my Nexus 4. What should I do? I looked around and it seems development around here isn't as strong as the nexus 4 forums. But you find 5 people seem to love your phone.
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Depends on what you prefer for your needs.
I'm not surprised the N4 has strong development given it's Google's phone and older than the F5.
Personally, the larger screen and higher resolution along with the industrial design are winners for me. I also like the community and how it seems to be growing with enthusiasts.
Now, I'm just waiting for the phone to arrive.
-- From my N7102

I bought both because I couldn't decide; my Nexus got to my house a day earlier. I detested the screen, it was by far the worst mobile device I had ever had to look it. Truly disappointing. Hardware was fine, Nexus experience was great. Battery was pretty poor.
The next day my Find 5 showed up - I couldn't put it down. Gorgeous screen coming from a Note 2, fantastic battery life on CM 10 (rock solid for me), superb performance. Returned the Nexus the next day, have been using the Find 5 since. VERY happy customer.

Luminair said:
I bought both because I couldn't decide; my Nexus got to my house a day earlier. I detested the screen, it was by far the worst mobile device I had ever had to look it. Truly disappointing. Hardware was fine, Nexus experience was great. Battery was pretty poor.
The next day my Find 5 showed up - I couldn't put it down. Gorgeous screen coming from a Note 2, fantastic battery life on CM 10 (rock solid for me), superb performance. Returned the Nexus the next day, have been using the Find 5 since. VERY happy customer.
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Heh, the Nexus screen isn't that bad but nowhere near the Find 5. And it kills the Note 2's SAMOLED outdoors (and indoors!). Makes me want to use it more.
-- From my Find 5

I am also one of them that can't decide which one to pick Nexus 4 vs Find 5.
I did watch/read a lot of reviews, most of them are really pleased about the phone. However there are a couple of things that keep me from buying the Oppo.
I read the screen isn't scratch proof
It is quite a heavy phone in comparison with others (139g vs 165g)
I also read some negative things about the quality of the power button and the volume rocker.
Oppo vs Nexus 4 community
How fast does it charge compare with the Nexus 4
I am coming from the HTC Sensation which is 2 years old now. So as for now, i am not a user that switch phones on a regular base.
For me it is no problem to root the phone and switch to CM or Paranoid Android.
I hope you guys can convince me which to choose

I used a nexus 4 for around 5 months and decided to sell it and get an oppo find 5. I've been using this for a week now and like everyone else has said the screen is AMAZING. The feel of the phone is top notch. My advice is look at your needs. Are you looking for a phone where u are not worried about flashing roms kernels firmware etc? While the hardware is exceptional the oppo is still behind in software and it will require us as users to try out and flash different things and being patient and open minded to small hiccups along the way. The team at oppo and other devs are working extremely hard. On the other hand if your looking for something more stable and smooth straight out of the box without having to worry about and play around with all the flashing then I'd definitely recommend the nexus 4. I still miss it a lot but personally I like experimenting with the latest software releases/beta versions etc so although the oppo software is not as 'buttery' smooth as the nexus. It is the phone for me. It all comes down to u how ur thinking of using the phone. Hope that helps. Any more questions give me a shout.
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For me :
Good
a amazing FullHD Screen
32 GB Storage
amazing bulid unibody Body
Great Support of Oppo
2500mAh Battery
Qualcomm S4 Pro
2 GB Ram
Bad
:
Fimrware is a little bit buggy
No OTG (same Problem of a Nexus 4)
Same with Nexus 4
2 GB Ram
Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 Pro
No LTE
No OTG

Thanks for the replies guys i really appreciate it.

Hello guys,
I face the same dilemma...
I also don't understand why the oppo 5 scores lower in some benchmarks like antutu, although it has a better hardware.

konstadinos said:
Hello guys,
I face the same dilemma...
I also don't understand why the oppo 5 scores lower in some benchmarks like antutu, although it has a better hardware.
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I believe you already know that benchmarks count for very little in real life.
And I must say that with my FInd 5 I had quite different results depending on the stock Oppo ROM I was using... if my memory serves me yhe best I got was the first ROM I had, one of the betas before Color ROM came along, and got scores higher than the "normal" Nexus 4.
I haven't tried benchmarking for a whie... not with the latest Color ROM, nor CM 10.1, nor Maxwen's AOKP.
I'm running CM 10.2 unoficial and just for info purposes I run Antutu v4 as I was typing and got: 18530 (between Nexus 4 and Xperia Z).
Antutu states 16793 for Nexus 4 in the comparison tables.
UPDATE: running again five minutes later got 18517
I wonder if the FullHD screen has its toll on this...
I use benchmarking just to know if everything's ok with my phone... if some part isn't malfunctioning...not to get higher or lower scores... for that I would have to overclock... :angel:

Hi Banimale,
You are right about the benchmarks, they don't totally relate to the user experience, I just found it strange.
Are you satisfied with the battery life?
Is the stock rom buggy?

Stock ROM is buggy especially regarding battery life and some minor issues. But imo it is functional and has some interesting features and customisations.
Regarding themes and ui is kind of hate it or love it...
But one can always get another rom like maxwen aokp or cm... Even cm 10.2 unofficial. Better battery life and probably something one is familiar with and doesn't start blaming oppo for missing this or having broken that...
I really like my phone!
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Buy Nexus 4 today?

Hello everybody! I believe it's about time for me to upgrade my phone, I have got a LG Optimus 2X running paranoid android 2.6. I like to try different roms, and most importantly: I like the stock Android experience! Recently I have been taking a look at the Nexus 4, and I have also tried it in store. There are however two factors that I am unsure of: How does the screen match today's flagships in sunlight? How long will the battery last me with average usage (Couple of sms, phone calls and a bit of music)? I am very thankful for any helpful answers in this matter!
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Under sunlight this phone is very good. Definitely better than SAMOLED displays. I never have problems viewing under the sun.
Battery life is subjective but mine lasts the day. I text often and use twitter, Instagram, Facebook, etc. I also listen to Google all access music.
With the combination of specs and price, the N4 is still the best phone out there IMO.
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All phone screens suck in sunlight. This one fairs better than others. If your not a heavy phone user you should be fine battery wise. I'm on the damn thing all day browsing the internet, texting, some gaming, you tube and this is the first phone (without extended battery) that I didn't need to plug in at 2 pm. For the price it is definitely the best phone out there.
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Erik142 said:
Hello everybody! I believe it's about time for me to upgrade my phone, I have got a LG Optimus 2X running paranoid android 2.6. I like to try different roms, and most importantly: I like the stock Android experience! Recently I have been taking a look at the Nexus 4, and I have also tried it in store. There are however two factors that I am unsure of: How does the screen match today's flagships in sunlight? How long will the battery last me with average usage (Couple of sms, phone calls and a bit of music)? I am very thankful for any helpful answers in this matter!
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With that type of use you would get through a day without a problem, so don't worry about the battery.
As for the screen, it's not the best in direct sunlight, but it's definitely better than amoled.
The only problem you should know about is the delayed notifications (email, whatsapp..) over wifi due to the buggy wifi driver from qualcomm.
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Not rooted this phone comes with horrible colors compared to an HTC One or an iPhone 5 and bad battery life.
Rooted and with another kernel maybe or UV settings it's pretty good.

I will probably root it and install paranoid android or something just to try it out, so I am open to try custom kernels, settings, roms and such. The thing that worries me is that a lot of resellers here in Sweden are about to stop selling the Nexus. Are there any confirmed rumors or news about a new nexus, or maybe an updated nexus 4? If not, then I'll buy it!
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Erik142 said:
I will probably root it and install paranoid android or something just to try it out, so I am open to try custom kernels, settings, roms and such. The thing that worries me is that a lot of resellers here in Sweden are about to stop selling the Nexus. Are there any confirmed rumors or news about a new nexus, or maybe an updated nexus 4? If not, then I'll buy it!
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If it was confirmed, it wouldn't be a rumor
A new Nexus is still 4-6 months away, probably. The Nexus 4 is still a very good phone.

Erik142 said:
I will probably root it and install paranoid android or something just to try it out, so I am open to try custom kernels, settings, roms and such. The thing that worries me is that a lot of resellers here in Sweden are about to stop selling the Nexus. Are there any confirmed rumors or news about a new nexus, or maybe an updated nexus 4? If not, then I'll buy it!
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If it was confirmed, it wouldn't be a rumor
A new Nexus is still 4-6 months away, probably. The Nexus 4 is still a very good phone.
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IMO, I think it's better to buy a phone ~6 months after it's release date anyway. That way, other people have developed ROMs, found and fixed software glitches, and the manufacturer has made revisions to the hardware, giving you the phone in it's prime. Plus, Google has been known to botch the shipment of the first few batches of phones after release.

get the n4, new android os is coming soon!

Screen is visible outdoors, and with the usage you described you'll get through a day no problem. My advice would be to buy from Google.
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The best thing about getting one of these is that software wise, your phone won't be obsolete for > 5years
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How is the nexus 4

Hi I've been looking into getting a nexus 4 for a while I just want to know what are the ups and downs of it, I've looked through a bit of the thread and haven't really seen anything bad, just wanting to know how the device is and such not too worried about any custom software glitches or anything. Thanks
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deathblade said:
Hi I've been looking into getting a nexus 4 for a while I just want to know what are the ups and downs of it, I've looked through a bit of the thread and haven't really seen anything bad, just wanting to know how the device is and such not too worried about any custom software glitches or anything. Thanks
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Well, I don't think you can get that performance for that money in any other phone atm.
The sound is a little low, although I've seen fixes for that if it bothers you. The camera is average for a modern smartphone. As is the battery life.
Big plus: Always having the latest updates. Also, the Support should last quite a while.
What else...I like the NFC technology and playing around with tags. Easier than I thought, too.
Looking into buying a QI charger atm. Being able to use those is another nice feature.
Then there is the look of the back Of course that's only good for something when you don't hide it in a bumper or case.
You can't get anything better if you're on a tight budget imho. :good:

danielms22 said:
Well, I don't think you can get that performance for that money in any other phone atm.
The sound is a little low, although I've seen fixes for that if it bothers you. The camera is average for a modern smartphone. As is the battery life.
Big plus: Always having the latest updates. Also, the Support should last quite a while.
What else...I like the NFC technology and playing around with tags. Easier than I thought, too.
Looking into buying a QI charger atm. Being able to use those is another nice feature.
Then there is the look of the back Of course that's only good for something when you don't hide it in a bumper or case.
You can't get anything better if you're on a tight budget imho. :good:
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Thank you for the insight, sadly as much as i would love to be an owner of one of these great devices i have no budget (as in no income) but heres hoping i get a job soon so get one, before the nexus 5 comes out and no longer can get a nexus 4

I lovetheNexus 4. True other phones have better hardware. But you get it for the same price you pay for one of the other phones on a 2 year contract. I enjoy the freedom.
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