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Back to my arc S!

I had an Xperia S for a week. And I hated it. So I got my arc S back and I couldn't be happier.
If you're ever tempted by an Xperia S - don't do it. It's just not good enough.

Why?it is faster,and screen is much better.
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I tried xperia s and find it heavier, worse picture quality, worse design and i missed the physical buttons. So i stick with arc S, still my fovorite so far.

I felt the build quality was poorer than the arc. Wasn't as big a step forward as is claimed, tbh.

isnt the dual core do nothing for it??

I was all for getting one, until I had one in the hand, two big for my liking. I really want my next Phone to be Sony, but if they continue the trend of creating bricks like most manufactures seem to be doing these days then I'll stick with my S.E and I might just upgrade to the Arc S.
I don't want a mini tablet as a Phone.

Wait for the GX guys, it's true Arc successor.
I'm waiting for SX to replace my Ray

I think 4-4,3 inch is the limit for the smartphone. Everything above is... tablet. Arc S is good enough for me.

I think the bigger a phone the better, I thought the xperia s looked good in the pictures but when held it irl it feels fat and the bezel looks really thick (big turnoff). But I'd still go for performance over design.
Sent from my Arc S with JJ's ROM installed + stock kernel.

What I didn't like:
Soft buttons are terrible - often takes 2 or 3 taps for then to work. Very frustrating.
Terrible battery life on the latest ICS F/W.
Heavy and uncomfortable to hold for long.
Bravia engine doesn't work on latest ICS F/W.
Power Saver app completely useless.
Sony UK refusing to repair screen tint issues if you've unlocked the bootloader.
Occasional hang when using the Quick Launch camera button.
Fonts too small for me - and using Large option only works in some apps and is ignored by Timescape, etc.
The flap on the USB port won't last long.
Stupid menu design for the launcher.
Widget picker takes 5 seconds to appear.
This phone looks great on paper but feels half-finished to me. I can see why the reviews were so lacklustre now.
So I'm back using my arc S which I will keep until I've saved up for a Galaxy Nexus. Sony have done a poor job of ICS and I they no longer have my trust. Why can't they produce a couple of excellent devices instead of releasing mediocre phones every few months? The mind boggles.
I did like the new Walkman app though - by far the best music player I've used on Android.

I find it ridiculous when people say " the bigger the phone, the better." Perhaps ego issues to compensate for something else ? Lol
Seriously, it is silly to put a tablet sized phone next to your eat. Just don't, please, for the love of god.
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Thanks for the review guys as my x10 is up for upgrade in 2-3 months time and was naturally thinking of this, I am a se fanboy.
Not 100% sure what to do as I have arc already.
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zolaisugly said:
Not 100% sure what to do as I have arc already.
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I'd hang fire, I've got 8 months left on my contract so I've got plenty of time to see what Sony can come up with in the future. I was going to sell my Arc the other week and get a Ray as I was wanting something smaller but after some thought decided to stick with the Arc in the end. There's nothing that I really like when I look at line up on GSMArena, maybe the Arco S but I'd have to hold it before deciding.

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What I didn't like:
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Soft buttons ARE terrible, even calendar launcher(lower left corner) interrupts with user interaction.
a mid range / mid end device doing a very nice job. even hdmi output is surprisingly smooth.
well, fairly spoken I had no expectations with ics, even sony's official website claims that, I never understood that, why some people got confused with "improved" performance and "speedy" UI, they both are different things.

I disagree.
For its price... Arc/Arc S was a loot when it was launched.
I now own both an Arc and an Xperia S. No doubt arc is the best designed fone any manufacturer ever made, but it is way too short on horsepower. Even on gingerbread, the contacts app lags if you cross over 500 contacts. So does the messaging app.
Arc users keep dwindling and shifting around custom ROMS trying to find the perfect one. And we all know after a few days of use and installing chunk loads of apps, the fone just struggles to keep up as a BASIC PHONE (it runs applications well though).
Arc is indeed a great fashion statement but as a basic phone, even my dads ZTE Blade delivers better.
Xperia S is thicker but works like a charm! Wish it's speaker was as loud as arc though

romiltherock said:
I disagree.
For its price... Arc/Arc S was a loot when it was launched.
I now own both an Arc and an Xperia S. No doubt arc is the best designed fone any manufacturer ever made, but it is way too short on horsepower. Even on gingerbread, the contacts app lags if you cross over 500 contacts. So does the messaging app.
Arc users keep dwindling and shifting around custom ROMS trying to find the perfect one. And we all know after a few days of use and installing chunk loads of apps, the fone just struggles to keep up as a BASIC PHONE (it runs applications well though).
Arc is indeed a great fashion statement but as a basic phone, even my dads ZTE Blade delivers better.
Xperia S is thicker but works like a charm! Wish it's speaker was as loud as arc though
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100% true. When I first booted JJHybrid 3.2 it was a rocket comparing to stock ICS. Now with few apps instaled (<30), everything lags, even keyboard, which should be one of the main things in phone. Looks like, arc S in my last Sony phone.....from now on I am 85% sure, my next phone will be Galaxy Nexus.
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rec71 said:
I did like the new Walkman app though - by far the best music player I've used on Android.
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You haven't used Poweramp with the ICS skin, have you?

Traviizter said:
You haven't used Poweramp with the ICS skin, have you?
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I haven't looked at PowerAmp for about 6 months. I didn't like it much though but will take another look.

It's much better than any other music app I've found.
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Traviizter said:
It's much better than any other music app I've found.
how about mort player?
remember most android users are free bee :highfive:
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Are you thinking of changing phone for a nexus?

I like my sgs3 but I'm thinking of maybe changing to the new nexus.
The basic reasons are:
- IPS LCD display (if it has one like the rumors show). Amoled is clearly a second class display nowadays. Before it was good, but now... today I compared it to the LCD IPS of the iPhone 4S and I was impressed with the white backgrounds. On the SGS3 they look terrible on comparison, just terrible. There is also a notice difference in brightness and visibility outdoors.
- This whole problem with Samsung not releasing the info, codes and stuff of the exynoss processor is making it difficult for stock roms to become better. There is actually not that many interesting roms or tweaks available for the SGS3. Most roms are based on Samsung's. The nexus is obviously gonna have some really cool stuff and tweaks.
- Better optimization of software. Project butter on the SGS3 right now is a shame. I'm hoping on the next update they make it better. It's still a beta firmware so let's wait, but I don't trust Samsung that much.
Three basic reasons. Of course, not saying the SGS3 is a bad phone, but I expect better, specially software wise.

Sensamic said:
I like my sgs3 but I'm thinking of maybe changing to the new nexus.
The basic reasons are:
- IPS LCD display (if it has one like the rumors show). Amoled is clearly a second class display nowadays. Before it was good, but now... today I compared it to the LCD IPS of the iPhone 4S and I was impressed with the white backgrounds. On the SGS3 they look terrible on comparison, just terrible. There is also a notice difference in brightness and visibility outdoors.
- This whole problem with Samsung not releasing the info, codes and stuff of the exynoss processor is making it difficult for stock roms to become better. There is actually not that many interesting roms or tweaks available for the SGS3. Most roms are based on Samsung's. The nexus is obviously gonna have some really cool stuff and tweaks.
- Better optimization of software. Project butter on the SGS3 right now is a shame. I'm hoping on the next update they make it better. It's still a beta firmware so let's wait, but I don't trust Samsung that much.
Three basic reasons. Of course, not saying the SGS3 is a bad phone, but I expect better, specially software wise.
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1 more thing u miss, a 8gb and non-sd card slot.
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The new nexus 2 still be having sd card slot.
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There is no SD card slot in the sgs3??
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w1nter456 said:
1 more thing u miss, a 8gb and non-sd card slot.
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Yeah, I know. Not great obviously, but storage alone is not enough if you lack the other three I mentioned, like more tweaks, better roms and such.
Oh, I forgot another little reason:
- There is no in line spell checker on Samsungs touchwiz rom. In stock Android a red line appears before any misspelled word, but Samsung doesn't have this. The reason? Who knows... but I really need that feature because I type a lot on the phone.

Sensamic said:
Yeah, I know. Not great obviously, but storage alone is not enough if you lack the other three I mentioned, like more tweaks, better roms and such.
Oh, I forgot another little reason:
- There is no in line spell checker on Samsungs touchwiz rom. In stock Android a red line appears before any misspelled word, but Samsung doesn't have this. The reason? Who knows... but I really need that feature because I type a lot on the phone.
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The phone should be 32gb at least. If not I won't buy it until it had 32gb.
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Sorry, but the Nexus will never be a high-end phone. It's supposed to be somewhat affordable. Although considered a good value and pure Android, it won't possess the higher-end specs like the Galaxy S or HTC One series will. Which Nexus are you going to get? There are like 6 coming out next year. LG maybe?

jinosong said:
Sorry, but the Nexus will never be a high-end phone. It's supposed to be somewhat affordable. Although considered a good value and pure Android, it won't possess the higher-end specs like the Galaxy S or HTC One series will. Which Nexus are you going to get? There are like 6 coming out next year. LG maybe?
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Next year nexus, android 5.0. Sweet
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w1nter456 said:
1 more thing u miss, a 8gb and non-sd card slot.
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This was just a prototype . Official woukd have minimum 16 gb
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jinosong said:
Sorry, but the Nexus will never be a high-end phone. It's supposed to be somewhat affordable. Although considered a good value and pure Android, it won't possess the higher-end specs like the Galaxy S or HTC One series will. Which Nexus are you going to get? There are like 6 coming out next year. LG maybe?
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I've come to realize more powerful hardware is not essential. What use is there for quad core if project butter is half baked and developers cannot use all its horsepower because of lack of documentation from Samsung? It's way better to have dual core optimised, just like the nexus will do be it dual or quad core. Software must be optimised or quad core means nothing.
I would buy the one with LCD IPS display clearly. I think it's the best display right now, very bright and whites look great.

Sensamic said:
I like my sgs3 but I'm thinking of maybe changing to the new nexus.
The basic reasons are:
- IPS LCD display (if it has one like the rumors show). Amoled is clearly a second class display nowadays. Before it was good, but now... today I compared it to the LCD IPS of the iPhone 4S and I was impressed with the white backgrounds. On the SGS3 they look terrible on comparison, just terrible. There is also a notice difference in brightness and visibility outdoors.
- This whole problem with Samsung not releasing the info, codes and stuff of the exynoss processor is making it difficult for stock roms to become better. There is actually not that many interesting roms or tweaks available for the SGS3. Most roms are based on Samsung's. The nexus is obviously gonna have some really cool stuff and tweaks.
- Better optimization of software. Project butter on the SGS3 right now is a shame. I'm hoping on the next update they make it better. It's still a beta firmware so let's wait, but I don't trust Samsung that much.
Three basic reasons. Of course, not saying the SGS3 is a bad phone, but I expect better, specially software wise.
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Only thing I like with the nexus, would be the faster updates (yes I do use custom roms).
Another thing I can't really stand seeing users who say that stock android is better bla bla. Have you ever compared stock androids camera (aosp) vs samsungs one? You might dislike the template/colour scheme of touchwiz, but from a functionality point of view, samsungs software is way ahead of stock android. (even aokp, cm etc etc) eg, camera, task manager on home long press, clock app, better messaging app, contacts app etc, direct call, smart alert, smart stay (better than not having the option)

Sensamic said:
I've come to realize more powerful hardware is not essential. What use is there for quad core if project butter is half baked and developers cannot use all its horsepower because of lack of documentation from Samsung? It's way better to have dual core optimised, just like the nexus will do be it dual or quad core. Software must be optimised or quad core means nothing.
I would buy the one with LCD IPS display clearly. I think it's the best display right now, very bright and whites look great.
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Butter shouldn't be the goal of the phone. Functionality clearly trumps it. For example, playing a complex game or watching a high resolution movie is where you'll see high-end hardware really shine. As for IPS, I foresee Samsung shedding that very soon in future models.
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I can't really stand would be users who say that stock android is better bla bla.
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I agree that some of Samsung's modifications are really useful. I used an S3 then tried a Nexus for the first time and I couldn't stand the simplified options menu of the device.

Not interested in Nexus devices. Apart from faster software updates, I still can't see any better features Nexus can offer to consumers compare to OEM devices.
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Yes my next phone would be a Nexus... I like the default android launcher and fast update on Android OS. Less stress cause by waiting and TouchWiz bugs.
I would sacrifice having no SD card slot if that's the case. I just want the next nexus to have a quad core and 2GB of RAM and a 32GB of storage would be fine with me.

if the price is right, i'll get the LG nexus phone to replace my S3
i'm always on AOSP rom. no point S3 when there's always something not working on stock android.

No sdcard slot = no go!
If it had a sdcard slot, I'd definitely go for it. It seems to solve all the problems of SGS3.

When the new Lumia 920 is there, i'll go for it.\
Im getting tired of android, the flashing, the custom ROMS.
None of it is without lagg, so i'm gonna try Windows Phone 8

No. The Nexus series of phones will never have a microSD slot 'cause Google do not think they're needed (along with file managers - with the Android trait of leaving leftover **** on the SD when uninstalling applications, yeah right). Despite already nearly filling up both my 16GB internal + 32GB microSD card, I'd - grudgingly - live with the loss of a microSD card slot but rumours say that the memory of the new LG Nexus is either 8GB/16GB in order to push Google's **** cloud services. Not only do I feel it's more futuristic that I can carry huge amounts of files on a tiny microSD card without having to be tied to the Internet, Google Music doesn't officially work this side of the pond and even if it did I don't have the data allowance to always be streaming - and, in my case, I don't get mobile phone signal for a couple hours a day...
LG have been told to make the next Nexus. Luckily, I never bought the useless doorstop known as the Optimus 2X, but ask around and owners will generally tell you it sucks thanks to its feature of randomly rebooting throughout your day, on the stock firmware doing nothing. LG Canada also said no to ICS for the phone - we're talking about the first Android dual-core phone and LG's flagship. Thankfully, Google will be operating the update side of things so this won't be an issue with the Nexus, but I'll be damned if I ever buy an LG phone (4x has a locked bootloader, for example. Again not a problem on the Nexus, but another reason why I'll never consider LG).
I want to (well, try to) punch a wall when I say this, but odds are I'll be getting a Sony phone when they release a phone with specs worthy of the month of the year they're announcing it in. (In short, I want a quad-core, Sony, not excitement over the fact that the T is - finally - your first dual-core) I'll never forgive them for the Vita but with phones, they seem to have it right so no point in cutting my nose off in order to spite my face. Everybody knows of Code Aurora, but Sony do release binaries for those things they don't/can't open the source of to make it easier for those who want to run AOSP-based ROMs, unlocking the bootloader can be done through a website of theirs (and there's no bollocks like S-ON to deal with), Entropy512 says they release the code of some of their own things that they don't need to - nothing groundbreaking but very helpful to AOSP ROM maintainers etc. and they've posted on XDA in order to promote their open-source software to help developers (there's a post from a Sony Ericsson employee somewhere on XDA talking about their program that wraps apktool and others to for a better decompiling experience... god I sound like a shill).
I've also seen them contribute fixes to upstream software. Take D-Bus. On a GNU/Linux desktop it's an open-source program used mainly by the KDE & GNOME desktops (and by a ton of freedesktop.org programs like the upower daemon) as a way for programs to communicate with each other. (Sorry for the awful attempt at an explanation) On Android it's there too, probably because BlueZ, which provides the Bluetooth stack, needs it. Applications can't use it on Android but if dbus-daemon is happy then BlueZ is too. On the DBus mailing list, I would see posts by Sony Ericsson employees working on Android trying to find out why X operation was slow and, in some cases, providing fixes themselves. This is a great approach as it means not only DBus-using Linux desktops get a more stable piece of software because Sony chose to submit directly to the people who wrote the the program, it also means that other Android phones that run the version of dbus-daemon with Sony's fixes also benefit. JBQ of Google also put the Arc S device tree into AOSP - the first non-Nexus phone - because (if I'm remembering right) Sony were always friendly to AOSP and were contributing.
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waiting s4

As a previous owner of the original sgs1 and currently have the nexus s I recently had to decide on my new smartphone. I discounted the nexus pretty quickly because, frankly I found the nexus s boring. The nexus line will always be good but never great. Lack of storage and no sd card is a killer. The only - admittedly considerable - thing going for the nexus range is early access to latest firmware. That's it. The galaxy s range are sexy and leading edge. That's where each new model is aimed and that's what Samsung achieve
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Any S3 users who went to the Nexus 4?

I dont have the dough to buy a Nexus 4 but two things I was curious about since my cousin bought one.
1. How's the battery life and how do you like the screen? Which phone is crispier, oversatured, brighter , more colored, warmer?
2. My cousin who is crazy about rooting was like it comes as plain as google makes it and didn't want to even root it. That's amazing, but don't you guys miss the custom roms and the independence and development of settings they give you? One thing I've doubted has been google's ability to follow up great product releases with good updates like independent developers do, does google really roll out good updates to make it a comparison between indie roms and their OS?

One thing I've doubted has been google's ability to follow up great product releases with good updates like independent developers do, does google really roll out good updates to make it a comparison between indie roms and their OS?
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Dafuq you talking about?

zetsui said:
I dont have the dough to buy a Nexus 4 but two things I was curious about since my cousin bought one.
1. How's the battery life and how do you like the screen? Which phone is crispier, oversatured, brighter , more colored, warmer?
2. My cousin who is crazy about rooting was like it comes as plain as google makes it and didn't want to even root it. That's amazing, but don't you guys miss the custom roms and the independence and development of settings they give you? One thing I've doubted has been google's ability to follow up great product releases with good updates like independent developers do, does google really roll out good updates to make it a comparison between indie roms and their OS?
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Bought the Nexus 4 coming from the S3, GT-I9300 Model. When I got the N4 I sold my S3 without thinking twice, and I even had money to spare! In terms of the build quality, the S3 felt like a piece of cheap plastic that I can break with my hands, on the other hand, the N4's build quality is excellent and premium.
Before I got the N4 I had an S2 and an S3, which both sported a Super Amoled screen. Now, when it comes to the argument between LCD and Amoled, it all comes down to your opinion, it took me half an hour to get used to the N4's screen and when I looked at the S3 again, I hated it's over saturated look. The thing I do miss a little from Amoled are the blacks, the N4 blacks aren't as dark.
In terms of software, I am free from Touch-wiz!!! Wow, what a relief, finally android at it's best. The N4 is miles faster than the S3, it is smoother, snappier and project butter clearly has a major effect on smoothness (Samsung basically canceled project butter in their JB updates...).
I rooted my N4 and flashed CM 10.1 on it and I am happier with that than stock, but the need to root and flash ROMs on the N4 is only for people who like doing it for fun, because stock android is very close to perfect already. When Android Key Lime Pie is released, I am sure it will be a great update and the N4 will receive it right away.
Last thing - battery. The S3's and the N4's battery life are pretty much the same so I'm not going to go into that much. Just like in the S3, if you want to improve battery life, you UC and UV using a custom kernel or you disable some apps and etc...
To sum up, I believe there is no reason for anyone who has an S3 to keep it, they can sell it, buy the N4, and still have money to spare! Besides, the N4 is definitely the superior handset.

Coming from the S3 and Note 2 and now enjoying the Nexus 4 for a week i must say it is a magnificent device. It is smooth, responsive and i xperience no lags at all. Running CM10.1 nightlies with Franco kernel. And finaly software without a manufacturers shell (Touchwizz).
Realy happy with the device so far, and will keep this one till something better comes along ( Oppo Find5 i hope).

Coming from the sgs3 I'm really enjoying my nexus. Idk to me the performance is pretty much on par (slight edge to nexus). Idk about performance on games since I'm not really into that. But I do miss having the external SD and some tw features.
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I love my nexus.
The physical phone itself is definitely much nicer than the galaxy, which I am now looking to sell. It looks sexy and feels solid, the galaxy looks and feels cheap and plastic.
I used to like the screen on the s3 but after using the Nexus for a week, the AMOLED screen is definitely less crisp (due to the pentile matrix I suspect) and the colours do look a little over saturated.
Speed wise stock android 4.2 on the Nexus is noticeably faster than the S3 running Android 4.1.2 with the Touchwiz overlay. The S3 is still a very quick phone, it's just not as quick as the N4. Also switching between apps is faster on the N4 thanks to the extra RAM.
There are pros to the S3 though. It has better battery life for some unknown reason, more storage capacity and a removable battery. If I wanted to use my phone for a lot of multimedia functions such as playing and watching music and videos, I would have kept the S3. I don't though so I'm selling it.
Apart from getting the updates first, the Nexus is the first to get fully functional versions of custom aosp roms like Cyanogenmod and AOKP. On other phones such as the S3 they usually have a lot of bugs at first.
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I had an S3 before purchasing the Nexus 4. When i received my Nexus 4, i compared both phones side by side (browser, UI, benchmarks and more)... The nexus 4 came out ahead of Samsung in almost every aspect except the picture quality of the Camera app. S3 still has the upper edge with pics.
However, the nexus 4 UI was more fluid(no lag at all) and the screen was way brighter than that of the S3
The Nexus 4 is the best and fastest device i have ever owned and the 2gb ram included is more optimized for the device than the Galaxy s3

What dothese updates look like or mean since I flashed my gs3 the day I got it
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You don't have to worry about lack of development for this phone. There are plenty of Roms to choose from for this phone. Hell, I flash between 5 different Roms daily and they are all very stable. Also I don't see how you can be doubting Google in updating their nexus line. Nexus 4 will be one of the first to get the next iteration of android, key lime pie if that does end up being its name.

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You don't have to worry about lack of development for this phone. There are plenty of Roms to choose from for this phone. Hell, I flash between 5 different Roms daily and they are all very stable. Also I don't see how you can be doubting Google in updating their nexus line. Nexus 4 will be one of the first to get the next iteration of android, key lime pie if that does end up being its name.
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And is a AOSP supported device. Therefore, you'll be ensured that custom ROMs will be highly stable as everything would be working out of the box. No bugs such as loss of functionality in WiFi, Bluetooth, Cellular data etc whereas other phones will have problems and will need to be fixed.
Development shouldn't even be a issue.

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And is a AOSP supported device. Therefore, you'll be ensured that custom ROMs will be highly stable as everything would be working out of the box. No bugs such as loss of functionality in WiFi, Bluetooth, Cellular data etc whereas other phones will have problems and will need to be fixed.
Development shouldn't even be a issue.
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Definitely. Development on this phone is heaven. I used CM back when I had the evo 4g lte and it was very buggy. Given over time it did become pretty darn stable, credit to the devs there. But with this phone which is already aosp development is much quicker and bug free

Are you happy with your Find 5?

Hello guys...I don't own this device but I am interested what you like/don't like on it it seems to be a great phone.
Also I'm interested to exchange my Nexus 4 for an Oppp Find 5.
Now you guys write some sentences about your Fins 5

I definitely like the look and feel of the hardware. It is nicely build.
However I start to dislike the software. Some bugs of the official
firmware are annoying. ColorROM is also in Beta and not fully ready,
I guess.
Though I haven't tried any CustomROMs so far. But I'm sure other
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I haven't had mine long, but it has amazing build quality. Also, you almost have to be willing to root it to be able to tweak and maintain it at this time. The official ROM is beta at the moment, as was mentioned, and has it's share of quirks. There's a new Oppo phone coming out and you may want to wait for that before you decide to get one, but it certainly has the specifications at a good price point to last a while.

oblikas said:
Hello guys...I don't own this device but I am interested what you like/don't like on it it seems to be a great phone.
Also I'm interested to exchange my Nexus 4 for an Oppp Find 5.
Now you guys write some sentences about your Fins 5
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I'm going to sell it for just one reason: International version does not support 900MHz 3G, which is causing me annoying indoor issues; other than that it is a great device. Maxwen's AOKP is stable enough for daily use (ColorROM isn't).
Check your carrier's frequencies before buying one.

matticala said:
I'm going to sell it for just one reason: International version does not support 900MHz 3G, which is causing me annoying indoor issues; other than that it is a great device. Maxwen's AOKP is stable enough for daily use (ColorROM isn't).
Check your carrier's frequencies before buying one.
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Will you change it for a Nexus 4?
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oblikas said:
Will you change it for a Nexus 4?
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Yes I could, even though I was looking forward to Xperia Z1 Mini. It mostly depends on Nexus conditions... I bought mine in May

matticala said:
Yes I could, even though I was looking forward to Xperia Z1 Mini. It mostly depends on Nexus conditions... I bought mine in May
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It really is a nice device. The thing I like MOST about it is their dedication and support to the development and customization cause. I speak with my money where I can, and I can tell you it'll be either Oppo or Sony (even if someone else decides to play).
Also, I have not run into a phone yet that doesn't have some little annoyances with ROM's beyond the one provided on the phone. The difference here is, you'll find those annoyances on the stock ROM. I root and flash customs on all my devices, so I haven't given the latest stock ROM a sniff.
If you want AOKP, AOSP or CM, you've found a good device. It also helps to have the devs we've got thus far on the device.
Tipping point - Faux123 has one. Whether you use stock or not, you want this dev to have a device you own. Dude's a rock star for kernels (Max and others are great in their own right) and it's the only one going for stock that I know of.
Full disclosure - I am a moderate to heavy work user... I don't play games much if at all, or watch movies on my device. An occasional picture or two is not out of the question.

Absolutely happy with it. Its come so far from when it was first released..as far as the software is concerned. It's a fantastic device. No other OEM is as open as OPPO and hardware wise, its a top dawg for sure
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Absolutely happy with it. Its come so far from when it was first released..as far as the software is concerned. It's a fantastic device. No other OEM is as open as OPPO and hardware wise, its a top dawg for sure
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And, there are two Coloradan's that own them :highfive:. If that doesn't seal the deal, nothing will!

I have an LG OG..basically a n4..I'm having a hard time choosing which one to carry. Both have their strengths ..for me the LTE is kind of a big issue. I'm a power user with unlimited data and I enjoy flexing that right often... Fortunately for the oppo most places I go, work, home, school, friends house wifi is available. There are endless amounts of decent custom ROMs for the LG as its pretty much a n4 but I find stock to run fairly smooth and the whole efs backing up for GPS issue just ticks me off, only worked once for me and the ROM was so unstable otherwise I went back to stock .. The oppo on the other hand has been on TeamAslyums Build since day1 with no issues
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I like it very much,It's great after I flash CM

The phone is great,and OPPO just confirmed they'll be adding a root toggle somewhere in the UI for geeks convenience. It doesn't get any better than that no matter how you slice it. Actually the stock ROM is plenty nice,if it wasn't for the battery issues on the latest beta,I'd say it's rock stable.

Had a hardware problem, a month later is not here yet. Aside from that, I am happy. The phone is awesome.
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I've been in doubt between Xperia Z and the Find 5. Now I'm happy with my choice, although I believe than the Xperia Z it's a very good phone.
Specially I'm happy with the wide community supporting this phone, making differents ROM's. Now we have 4.3 already!!!

javier.pc said:
I've been in doubt between Xperia Z and the Find 5. Now I'm happy with my choice, although I believe than the Xperia Z it's a very good phone.
Specially I'm happy with the wide community supporting this phone, making differents ROM's. Now we have 4.3 already!!!
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Finally got a xperia z..
But both phones are sexy n' fast
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Hello, please, could you tell me, how are you content with GPS precision in compare with similar phones? I'm interesting especially of Oppo Find 5 vs Nexus 4 (as I know, Nexus has really fast first fixation and very good precision of GPS).
Thank you very much. H.
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Im very happy with my Find 5.
I came from a Lumia 920.
I wanted a phone with Android and open Source Codes, good Hardware and a nice Screen.
All this have the Oppo, and thats for a fair price.
I tested several Firmwares.
CM, CodefireX, AOKP, and at the Moment PA 3.99.
Great Software Support here at XDA.

I’ve come from the Nexus 4 so have good knowledge of both
The Nexus 4 is a capable phone, a nice size with a decent screen, mediocre camera and medium build quality and very average battery life with a 720 screen.
The phones fluid and responsive but the sound quality is poor.
The reason I swapped was my Nexus became unusable because whilst charging the charger melted to the phone! LG and Google didn’t want to know because I removed the screws on the back to unpick the charger remains, it’s now sat next to me looking very sad
Time for a new phone
I opted for the Oppo I had been watching this and really wanted it since it came out.
The Oppo is solid and I mean SOLID the build quality leaves everything behind including Iphones.
The Screen is 1080 and is a real step up from the Nexus in both real estate and quality.
Battery life is about the same as the Nexus and despite people moaning it’s not great? it is when you consider the size and quality of the screen.
The Camera is also way better than the Nexus camera by a long shot
The current Colorom is good but the battery did take a big hit from the previous version that was pretty good, you can choose any 3rd party rom you want but the Colorom is pretty nice so I think I will stick with it.
Overall the comments on the net are pretty spot on, brilliant hardware mediocre software that can only improve.
If you have the choice between the Nexus and the Oppo I would go for the Oppo I haven’t regretted it for a second :good:

Very pleased
I got my Oppo Find 5 a couple of days ago and I'm already in love with it. High quality build and the ability to use custom ROMs is awesome.

It's time to say goodbye my friends! :(

After all thease months, after all good and bad moments it's time to say goodbye and move on to my next device.
I bought LG G3 couple of weeks ago and today I'm selling my Xperia Z. It's so hard to move on because Xperia Z reminds me on true legend, Xperia X10i. It's such a great device to have. In fact , after using G3 for couple of weeks I'm so disappointed with this device (laggy software, not so great build quality) so I'll probably sell it and buy a real device, Xperia device (Z2 or Z3).
I'm gonna miss this forum so much, I'm gonna miss all You guys. Good luck and take care! :good:

So, the G3 isn't great then? I'm looking at getting a new device next month and it was a possibility, as reviews seem to be all positive. The Z3 is also on my list along with the N6.
I'm leaning towards the N6 because of ease of root etc and the huge development support that comes with the Nexus devices, but I'll see closer to the time as Sony has established itself as my current best Android OEM because of the great experience I've had with the Z.
Anyway, good luck for the future and I'm sure I'll see you around.
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So, the G3 isn't great then? I'm looking at getting a new device next month and it was a possibility, as reviews seem to be all positive. The Z3 is also on my list along with the N6.
I'm leaning towards the N6 because of ease of root etc and the huge development support that comes with the Nexus devices, but I'll see closer to the time as Sony has established itself as my current best Android OEM because of the great experience I've had with the Z.
Anyway, good luck for the future and I'm sure I'll see you around.
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LG G3 has beautiful display, one of the best out there, but 1440 x 2560 res is unnecessary because you can't see the difference between fullHD and this with naked eye. Camera is ok but not breathtaking (I think that LG use Sony 13 mpx module), Lollipop ROM is laggy, signal strength is lower than on other devices. Battery life is ok but not great, double tap to lock/unlock function is fantastic. If you look for development support I can't recommend you this phone, at least for now. On the other side I tested Xperia Z3 last week. Fantastic device, great looking, screen is beautiful, stock rom is fast and smooth, build quality is excellent. Battery life is insane, nice speakers, and camera is fantastic. I'm so in love with that phone man, I hope that Z3 is my next phone. And thanks for nice words.

I had a real bad experience with an LG device. The Optimus 2X was released with a lot of publicity as the first dual core Android phone and then abandoned with buggy software and only 2 updates in 2 years. I promised myself never to buy from them again, but the G3 was tempting me. Hearing your thoughts has put me off again!
So, Z3 or N6 it is probably.
Hope to see you around on the forums if I get a Z3.
Cheers.
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Funny I had the LG o2x too. What a disappointing device, I still remember how unreliable it was that I couldn't even use it as an alarm clock because it use to freeze when deep sleep
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Funny I had the LG o2x too. What a disappointing device, I still remember how unreliable it was that I couldn't even use it as an alarm clock because it use to freeze when deep sleep
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Yeah, you never knew if the thing would be unresponsive when you picked it up to use it. The stock rom was woeful as well. The only reason I didn't trash it was because of the great developer support and custom roms.
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kingvortex said:
So, the G3 isn't great then? I'm looking at getting a new device next month and it was a possibility, as reviews seem to be all positive. The Z3 is also on my list along with the N6.
I'm leaning towards the N6 because of ease of root etc and the huge development support that comes with the Nexus devices, but I'll see closer to the time as Sony has established itself as my current best Android OEM because of the great experience I've had with the Z.
Anyway, good luck for the future and I'm sure I'll see you around.
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If i were you i'd wait for the Z4.
Or go for the Z3, the Nexus isn't as good as it should be, the AMOLED is causing major issues.
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Tommy-Geenexus said:
If i were you i'd wait for the Z4.
Or go for the Z3, the Nexus isn't as good as it should be, the AMOLED is causing major issues.
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I haven't really looked into anything yet, as I don't tend to start looking around at prices etc until I really am ready to buy a new device. The Z is still actually really usable despite being almost 2 years old now, so there's no urgent need.
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kingvortex said:
I haven't really looked into anything yet, as I don't tend to start looking around at prices etc until I really am ready to buy a new device. The Z is still actually really usable despite being almost 2 years old now, so there's no urgent need.
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MWC isn't THAT far away, and if the Z4 is announced then expect a Z3 price drop. The upgrades for the Z4 won't be game changers - an 810 with a better GPU, a slightly nicer display that may well be QHD, improvements to the camera I expect. With the amount of time people use their phones nowadays, battery life simply must improve. And with rumours that the actual Sony imaging department will handle the image processing, maybe the Z4 will get a stand-out camera. I really hope the RAW API's will be implemented by Sony. I'm looking at an upgrade too, maybe a Oneplus Two, or if they make a Nexus 5 2015 edition I'd bite. The Xperia Z was my first smartphone and I'd like to try other android devices.

Have any of you guys seen the new ASUS ZenFone that's to be released in March? It looks like an absolute animal of a phone and I'm very tempted to snap one up as soon as preorders are available because of its fantastic price and even better spec to follow, but I'm worried about the developer support as there hasn't really been a great deal of support for ASUS' previous ZenFone generations, do you guys think that the price would pull more developers in?
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Have any of you guys seen the new ASUS ZenFone that's to be released in March? It looks like an absolute animal of a phone and I'm very tempted to snap one up as soon as preorders are available because of its fantastic price and even better spec to follow, but I'm worried about the developer support as there hasn't really been a great deal of support for ASUS' previous ZenFone generations, do you guys think that the price would pull more developers in?
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Is that the one with the Intel processor? Yikes, as far as I know, developer support on those devices is nowhere near the level of your standard Snapdragon phones. Exynos processors in Samsung's are very common and even those are shunnes., with developers working on Snapdragons instead.

Quad HD sounds nice on paper but it doesn't bring any visual differences that your eyes can detect. Except the low battery indicator flashing more frequently?
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I have used a LG G3 for more than a while.. I couldn't see anything wrong with it on KK.. Compared its display with a Z3 and saw the difference in detail and also under sunlight it seemed better than Z3.. Ofc 2k comes into play as well.. So it would be wrong to compare. Also the gestures are nice on any high end LG phone which Xperia's miss officially.. And battery life on G3 is amazing for the h/w it has.. I hardly saw a hiccup even the LG UI.. Camera is decent(Probably same as XZ).. Atleast it seemed the same when i compared my XZ cam with it.. G3 is a beast phone and i think their LP fw update might be buggy since its just initial update.. Ofc u have to wait for another 1 or 2 bug fixing updates to experience the best of LP on any phone for that matter..

tOrNadO™ said:
I have used a LG G3 for more than a while.. I couldn't see anything wrong with it on KK.. Compared its display with a Z3 and saw the difference in detail and also under sunlight it seemed better than Z3.. Ofc 2k comes into play as well.. So it would be wrong to compare. Also the gestures are nice on any high end LG phone which Xperia's miss officially.. And battery life on G3 is amazing for the h/w it has.. I hardly saw a hiccup even the LG UI.. Camera is decent(Probably same as XZ).. Atleast it seemed the same when i compared my XZ cam with it.. G3 is a beast phone and i think their LP fw update might be buggy since its just initial update.. Ofc u have to wait for another 1 or 2 bug fixing updates to experience the best of LP on any phone for that matter..
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I agree with you, but I sold it yesterday anyway. I ordered Z2 this morning and that's my next phone. Cheers.

neoxx3m said:
I agree with you, but I sold it yesterday anyway. I ordered Z2 this morning and that's my next phone. Cheers.
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Hi
What's Google's policy regarding transferring paid for apps from one phone to another? Can they be shared on 2 phones?

SXZdabbler said:
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What's Google's policy regarding transferring paid for apps from one phone to another? Can they be shared on 2 phones?
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You just have to sign in on the other device. I have a couple of phones and a tablet on the same Google account and can use paid apps on all of them with no issues.
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I hope so!

neoxx3m said:
I agree with you, but I sold it yesterday anyway. I ordered Z2 this morning and that's my next phone. Cheers.
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Count me too.. For Z2. Soon..

We don't really need a new thread for everyone who leaves to another device. If you already have a thread you can post it there, but a new thread isn't needed.
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