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[Q] Happy with your Nexus 4?

I'm new to the forums here and I have the HTC One X (ATT) and I've come to hate the lack of support of it and also all of the control ATT has over the updates. So I started looking into the Nexus 4 and just wanted see how satisfied or unsatisfied actual users were with their Nexus 4. So please comment and share your thoughts!

I am satisfied with my Nexus 4. Being using for 2 weeks and it's the best your money can buy.
If storage and glass aren't a big deal, then this phone is the best choice.
PS Ordered the second one on 27th for my bro. I love it SOOO much!

ak700 said:
I am satisfied with my Nexus 4. Being using for 2 weeks and it's the best your money can buy.
If storage and glass aren't a big deal, then this phone is the best choice.
PS Ordered the second one on 27th for my bro. I love it SOOO much!
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what about the lack of LTE?

andrew.simon said:
what about the lack of LTE?
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When I am in SF for work, I have LTE but I need to use office wifi for tranfer and other stuff. At home, my LTE is soooo slow that I need to use my home wifi.
Bottom Line - I don't need LTE.

ak700 said:
When I am in SF for work, I have LTE but I need to use office wifi for tranfer and other stuff. At home, my LTE is soooo slow that I need to use my home wifi.
Bottom Line - I don't need LTE.
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Thinking about it now makes me realize that I don't have to have it and Wi-fi really is everywhere. I'm guessing you are on T-Mobile right? So you purchased at a discount?

andrew.simon said:
Thinking about it now makes me realize that I don't have to have it and Wi-fi really is everywhere. I'm guessing you are on T-Mobile right? So you purchased at a discount?
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No I order through the Play store and use tmobile pre-paid's $30 plan. Works for me. I also have Sprint, which my family uses.

Love my nexus 4... Official cm10. Official PA. official AOKP. Franco and Faux kernels...
Gorgeous 768p IPS. Luxury feel in the hand. Amazingly slick curved display (defiantly don't want to drop this phone)
Meh camera (still great though, just not exciting) and some thermal throttling (being worked on)...
Lte is a non issue as hspa± is plenty fast. I mean, it loads YouTube, music, xda all instantly. Its not like we are doing real time video games and 1080p video streaming (just runs down my data plan quicker)
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elliot.newnham said:
Love my nexus 4... Official cm10. Official PA. official AOKP. Franco and Faux kernels...
Gorgeous 768p IPS. Luxury feel in the hand. Amazingly slick curved display (defiantly don't want to drop this phone)
Meh camera (still great though, just not exciting) and some thermal throttling (being worked on)...
Lte is a non issue as hspa± is plenty fast. I mean, it loads YouTube, music, xda all instantly. Its not like we are doing real time video games and 1080p video streaming (just runs down my data plan quicker)
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You really make some valid points. Camera on my HTC One X is nothing crazy either. (pretty sure they have the same specs?) I'd also like to get into modding my phone and I think the Nexus would make it easy but I honestly have no idea what I would be doing. Hahaha. How do I learn more about it because I'm a complete newb.

Awesome phone, I completely love it. Don't need LTE either. External SD would have made this phone too good to be true.

Got it on the 19th, being a pig in mud since.
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BruceCLin said:
Got it on the 19th, being a pig in mud since.
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Haha. Love the metaphor! :good: I can see everyone loves their Nexus that's for sure!

andrew.simon said:
I'm new to the forums here and I have the HTC One X (ATT) and I've come to hate the lack of support of it and also all of the control ATT has over the updates. So I started looking into the Nexus 4 and just wanted see how satisfied or unsatisfied actual users were with their Nexus 4. So please comment and share your thoughts!
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I got the N4 in the mail the Monday after it came out. I too am coming from the AT&T HTC One X. I used the N4 for about a week straight before deciding to break out the ol' One X (just for a change of pace). Quite frankly, it would be hard for me to give up the N4 for the HOX now.
The HOX is a great phone, but the N4 just makes it feel slow in comparison. Maybe I'm spoiled by the speed of the N4, but I just felt like I had to wait forever to do basic things on the One X (running the latest ViperROM, btw). The HOX has better battery life, for sure, and the camera is better. I miss those two things the most. The HOX still has the best screen out there (other than the Droid DNA), but the N4 really isn't far behind. Once a few color control apps come out for the N4, my guess is that I won't really miss the screen as much. For what it's worth, I forgot just how big the HOX's screen is. When they say 4.7", they mean it. The N4 has a 4.7" screen too, but it's probably more like a 4.5" once the on-screen buttons are considered. But the additional width is really nice and almost makes up for it. I don't have LTE anywhere near me where I live, so that's irrelevant to me. I don't travel much either.
Here's my summary.
HTC One X:
- slightly better, arguably bigger screen
- better battery
- better camera (in terms of picture quality; the software is on par with the N4)
- smaller development community, although they're doing a great job imo
- poor multitasking on Sense roms (works fine on AOSP roms)
N4:
- stock Android
- blazes through any task you throw at it
- AT&T doesn't control your phone
- easier to root, flash roms, kernels, etc.
- future proof with quad-core processor and 2GB of RAM
I am fully satisfied with my Nexus 4. I love my One X, but I will not be going back to it any time soon, most likely.

I've actually been with the iPhone since the 3GS when I came into the smartphone world. I read up about this and decided to give it a try from the 4S I was using, and I'm really enjoying the Nexus 4.
I'm still a bit apprehensive to give up iOS since I've been with it for so long--still haven't sold my 4S--but I have a feeling I'll be sticking with this phone for a while. The larger screen real-estate is also much nicer to have in general. I'm torn!

Zaimojin said:
I've actually been with the iPhone since the 3GS when I came into the smartphone world. I read up about this and decided to give it a try from the 4S I was using, and I'm really enjoying the Nexus 4.
I'm still a bit apprehensive to give up iOS since I've been with it for so long--still haven't sold my 4S--but I have a feeling I'll be sticking with this phone for a while. The larger screen real-estate is also much nicer to have in general. I'm torn!
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I feel like you and me are one in the same! The only thing I do miss is the amount of iPhone users. All my friends and family have one... Which makes me miss iMessage and group texting :/

You are on the forums and mentioned your problems with the 1X community's lack of activity.
I like the screen, but other phones have better screens which are also better calibrated. I like the camera, but indoor photos have very inaccurate white balance.
Connectivity is good (I'm using a $10 MEdia Net plan from AT&T and have used over 2GB every month and one month even went over 12GB cause my Internet was out), and I'm getting 500KB/s average (~4Mbps). Battery life is also good; I get about a day of moderate use and 6-7 hours of literally constant, active use. I am really hurting from the lack of storage as I do a lot of reporting and don't always have time to transfer the interview recordings. I do a lot of work away from a PC and need to be able to quickly seek tracks, so I have to keep he audio on internal memory.
By most people's standard, I'm very careful with my phone. I consider my usage to be of common sense and responsible practice. The Gorilla Glass is very scratch resistant, but I'm sure a few encounters with silicate and a hard surface would leave a mark.
But really, all of these things pale in comparison to one criterion: the development community. I came from a Galaxy S and the community was amazing. Though the HP Touch Pad was well known, it apparently wasn't popular enough to garner a lot of dev support and those forums are fairly sparse.
By getting a Nexus phone, you know that the every dev is prioritizing your phone over any other model they might be working on as well. Cyanogen posted. AOKP posted. Moles posted. These are the respective heads of the three best teams this community has to offer. Check their post history. They don't appear in too many other phones' forums; they usually have teammates do that. But for the Nexus 4, they want to be the ones posting. That says a lot.
And a lot of other devs know this about the community heads' devotion to the newest Nexus model. They are locked in to a N4 for the major dev support, but will also provide their own amateur, but very valuable, contributions as well.
I'm sure the 1X is a great phone. I'm sure the 1X+ is a great phone. Same goes for the DNA, Optimus G, and other leading smartphones out there. But the N4 attracts the biggest development teams, and in turn attracts smaller developers. It kind of feeds on itself, with regard to popularity. None of these other phones have so much 3rd party support going on for them.
So, if you are looking for the absolute best hardware, maybe you should keep looking (keep the N4 in mind, though). If you're looking for flexibility, know that your stuck with one battery on the road and can't expand the meager storage provided. But if your looking for ROMs, kernels, and tweaks that let you customize the phone exactly how you want it, and maximize the potential of the hardware, then look no further.
The Nexus 4 subforums are truly the promised land.

Hung0702 said:
You are on the forums and mentioned your problems with the 1X community's lack of activity.
I like the screen, but other phones have better screens which are also better calibrated. I like the camera, but indoor photos have very inaccurate white balance.
Connectivity is good (I'm using a $10 MediaNET plan from AT&T and have used over 2GB every month and one month even went over 12GB cause my Internet was out), and I'm getting 500KB/s average (~4Mbps). Battery life is also good; I get about a day of moderate use and 6-7 hours of literally constant, active use. I am really hurting from the lack of storage as I do a lot of reporting and don't always have time to transfer the interview recordings. I do a lot of work away from a PC and need to be able to quickly seek tracks, so I have to keep he audio on internal memory.
By most people's standard, I'm very careful with my phone. I consider my usage to be of common sense and responsible practice. The Gorilla Glass is very scratch resistant, but I'm sure a few encounters with silicate and a hard surface would leave a mark.
But really, all of these things pale in comparison to one criterion: the development community. I came from a Galaxy S and the community was amazing. Though the HP Touch Pad was well known, it apparently wasn't popular enough to garner a lot of dev support and those forums are fairly sparse.
By getting a Nexus phone, you know that the every dev is prioritizing your phone over any other model they might be working on as well. Cyanogen posted. AOKP posted. Moles posted. These are the respective heads of the three best teams this community has to offer. Check their post history. They don't appear in too many other phones' forums; they usually have teammates do that. But for the Nexus 4, they want to be the ones posting. That says a lot.
And a lot of other devs know this about the community heads' devotion to the newest Nexus model. They are locked in to a N4 for the major dev support, but will also provide their own amateur, but very valuable, contributions as well.
I'm sure the 1X is a great phone. I'm sure the 1X+ is a great phone. Same goes for the DNA, Optimus G, and other leading smartphones out there. But the N4 attracts the biggest development teams, and in turn attracts smaller developers. It kind of feeds on itself, with regard to popularity. None of these other phones have so much 3rd party support going on for them.
So, if you are looking for the absolute best hardware, maybe you should keep looking (keep the N4 in mind, though). If you're looking for flexibility, know that your stuck with one battery on the road and can't expand the meager storage provided. But if your looking for ROMs, kernels, and tweaks that let you customize the phone exactly how you want it, and maximize the potential of the hardware, then look no further.
The Nexus 4 subforums are truly the promised land.
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Couldn't have said it better. The best devs are working on this phone (provided if they could get one) and that is the exciting part of Nexus4. Trumps all other phones out there.
It might seem very complicated at once if you are not familiar with Android, but it's actually quite simple. And people are always there to help. I'm looking forward to at least 1 great year with this phone.
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And the fact that I am the only one I know are using it makes it super cool. I have several friends who know of N4 but didn't purchase one all liked the phone after I showed them. Their impression was the speed and the screen.
A friend asked me to purchase an iPhone for him since I'm going back to China soon. While in Apple Store, I took out my phone and google talk'ed with him. I can't help but notice the "Genius" looking at me. :laugh: And signing on that 3.5' tiny screen is just ridiculous. I paid half the price for what he is gonna pay for that piece of gadget, but I don't even have the desire to try out the iPhone 5 in their store.

When I got my N4 I was stunned at the slim look and mild colors. I wasn't sure if I'd like it after being on an SGS2 for over a year. I've gotten to where I really love everything about the phone, except the signal.. It sucks.
I can hold the phone next to my Nexus 7 or Galaxy Tab 10.1 and where I would normally get full bars of Wifi signal, I get 1 bar if I am lucky. The cellular signal is terrible as well. Living in Florida with hurricane glass and Double block walls - my SGS2 got really good signal, this thing is just garbage. If you rely on good signal, its not for you..
The touch sensitivity on the on-screen buttons at the lower portion of the phone seem to be not so great, other than that and the signal issues everything else is excellent..

I'm very happy with my 8GB
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Like you, I previously owned a at&t htc one x as well. I ordered my nexus 4 on the 13th and have been using it for a couple of weeks now. Since then, I have sold my htc one x.
to be completely honest, i have to say i liked the camera and screen combination of the htc one x better. Colors on the htc one x were brilliant and vivid, while the nexus 4 screen seemed to look dull. this is all personal preference, but i prefer the 'over-saturated' look.
speed on the nexus 4 is a lot faster compared to sense, but when i had cm10 on my htc one x it wasnt a slouch either.
in terms of aesthetics, they are both beautiful in their own ways. i quite liked the htc's design, but i agree on the lack of support, with the nexus you are guaranteed at least a couple of updates, (just look at the nexus s, got 4.1)
here's my advice to you: as nice as the nexus 4 is, if there is nothing wrong with you htc one x, dont upgrade. If you want jellybean 4.2 and dont want to wait for the update, root your HOX and put cm10 on it.
I was able to sell my HOX for $260 and my nexus 4 was $340 after taxes/shipping.

I for one am very happy with my Gnex4...Ive had every phone that came out this year...just sold my note 2 which was a pure beast if I must say but this nexus have a more snappier feeling as far as speed and etc...plus development is going crazy for this phone which is a big +....but overall this is the best phone on the market hands down...with the note 2 very close behind...

Are you happy with your Find 5?

Hello guys...I don't own this device but I am interested what you like/don't like on it it seems to be a great phone.
Also I'm interested to exchange my Nexus 4 for an Oppp Find 5.
Now you guys write some sentences about your Fins 5

I definitely like the look and feel of the hardware. It is nicely build.
However I start to dislike the software. Some bugs of the official
firmware are annoying. ColorROM is also in Beta and not fully ready,
I guess.
Though I haven't tried any CustomROMs so far. But I'm sure other
can eloberate on this.

I haven't had mine long, but it has amazing build quality. Also, you almost have to be willing to root it to be able to tweak and maintain it at this time. The official ROM is beta at the moment, as was mentioned, and has it's share of quirks. There's a new Oppo phone coming out and you may want to wait for that before you decide to get one, but it certainly has the specifications at a good price point to last a while.

oblikas said:
Hello guys...I don't own this device but I am interested what you like/don't like on it it seems to be a great phone.
Also I'm interested to exchange my Nexus 4 for an Oppp Find 5.
Now you guys write some sentences about your Fins 5
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I'm going to sell it for just one reason: International version does not support 900MHz 3G, which is causing me annoying indoor issues; other than that it is a great device. Maxwen's AOKP is stable enough for daily use (ColorROM isn't).
Check your carrier's frequencies before buying one.

matticala said:
I'm going to sell it for just one reason: International version does not support 900MHz 3G, which is causing me annoying indoor issues; other than that it is a great device. Maxwen's AOKP is stable enough for daily use (ColorROM isn't).
Check your carrier's frequencies before buying one.
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Will you change it for a Nexus 4?
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oblikas said:
Will you change it for a Nexus 4?
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Yes I could, even though I was looking forward to Xperia Z1 Mini. It mostly depends on Nexus conditions... I bought mine in May

matticala said:
Yes I could, even though I was looking forward to Xperia Z1 Mini. It mostly depends on Nexus conditions... I bought mine in May
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It really is a nice device. The thing I like MOST about it is their dedication and support to the development and customization cause. I speak with my money where I can, and I can tell you it'll be either Oppo or Sony (even if someone else decides to play).
Also, I have not run into a phone yet that doesn't have some little annoyances with ROM's beyond the one provided on the phone. The difference here is, you'll find those annoyances on the stock ROM. I root and flash customs on all my devices, so I haven't given the latest stock ROM a sniff.
If you want AOKP, AOSP or CM, you've found a good device. It also helps to have the devs we've got thus far on the device.
Tipping point - Faux123 has one. Whether you use stock or not, you want this dev to have a device you own. Dude's a rock star for kernels (Max and others are great in their own right) and it's the only one going for stock that I know of.
Full disclosure - I am a moderate to heavy work user... I don't play games much if at all, or watch movies on my device. An occasional picture or two is not out of the question.

Absolutely happy with it. Its come so far from when it was first released..as far as the software is concerned. It's a fantastic device. No other OEM is as open as OPPO and hardware wise, its a top dawg for sure
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Coreym said:
Absolutely happy with it. Its come so far from when it was first released..as far as the software is concerned. It's a fantastic device. No other OEM is as open as OPPO and hardware wise, its a top dawg for sure
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And, there are two Coloradan's that own them :highfive:. If that doesn't seal the deal, nothing will!

I have an LG OG..basically a n4..I'm having a hard time choosing which one to carry. Both have their strengths ..for me the LTE is kind of a big issue. I'm a power user with unlimited data and I enjoy flexing that right often... Fortunately for the oppo most places I go, work, home, school, friends house wifi is available. There are endless amounts of decent custom ROMs for the LG as its pretty much a n4 but I find stock to run fairly smooth and the whole efs backing up for GPS issue just ticks me off, only worked once for me and the ROM was so unstable otherwise I went back to stock .. The oppo on the other hand has been on TeamAslyums Build since day1 with no issues
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I like it very much,It's great after I flash CM

The phone is great,and OPPO just confirmed they'll be adding a root toggle somewhere in the UI for geeks convenience. It doesn't get any better than that no matter how you slice it. Actually the stock ROM is plenty nice,if it wasn't for the battery issues on the latest beta,I'd say it's rock stable.

Had a hardware problem, a month later is not here yet. Aside from that, I am happy. The phone is awesome.
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I've been in doubt between Xperia Z and the Find 5. Now I'm happy with my choice, although I believe than the Xperia Z it's a very good phone.
Specially I'm happy with the wide community supporting this phone, making differents ROM's. Now we have 4.3 already!!!

javier.pc said:
I've been in doubt between Xperia Z and the Find 5. Now I'm happy with my choice, although I believe than the Xperia Z it's a very good phone.
Specially I'm happy with the wide community supporting this phone, making differents ROM's. Now we have 4.3 already!!!
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Finally got a xperia z..
But both phones are sexy n' fast
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Hello, please, could you tell me, how are you content with GPS precision in compare with similar phones? I'm interesting especially of Oppo Find 5 vs Nexus 4 (as I know, Nexus has really fast first fixation and very good precision of GPS).
Thank you very much. H.
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Im very happy with my Find 5.
I came from a Lumia 920.
I wanted a phone with Android and open Source Codes, good Hardware and a nice Screen.
All this have the Oppo, and thats for a fair price.
I tested several Firmwares.
CM, CodefireX, AOKP, and at the Moment PA 3.99.
Great Software Support here at XDA.

I’ve come from the Nexus 4 so have good knowledge of both
The Nexus 4 is a capable phone, a nice size with a decent screen, mediocre camera and medium build quality and very average battery life with a 720 screen.
The phones fluid and responsive but the sound quality is poor.
The reason I swapped was my Nexus became unusable because whilst charging the charger melted to the phone! LG and Google didn’t want to know because I removed the screws on the back to unpick the charger remains, it’s now sat next to me looking very sad
Time for a new phone
I opted for the Oppo I had been watching this and really wanted it since it came out.
The Oppo is solid and I mean SOLID the build quality leaves everything behind including Iphones.
The Screen is 1080 and is a real step up from the Nexus in both real estate and quality.
Battery life is about the same as the Nexus and despite people moaning it’s not great? it is when you consider the size and quality of the screen.
The Camera is also way better than the Nexus camera by a long shot
The current Colorom is good but the battery did take a big hit from the previous version that was pretty good, you can choose any 3rd party rom you want but the Colorom is pretty nice so I think I will stick with it.
Overall the comments on the net are pretty spot on, brilliant hardware mediocre software that can only improve.
If you have the choice between the Nexus and the Oppo I would go for the Oppo I haven’t regretted it for a second :good:

Very pleased
I got my Oppo Find 5 a couple of days ago and I'm already in love with it. High quality build and the ability to use custom ROMs is awesome.

[Q] Is Nexus 4 still worth buying?

Hey guys,
Recently I've been thinking about changing my Xperia Mini Pro to something better. I just want to get phone that won't be laggy after some while - XMP is like that, no matter on which ROM and kernel.
I've got iPhone in my thoughts, but I don't have many friends with Apple product so it'd be useless - I wouldn't be able to use iMessage or AirDrop so functionality drops down a lot.
Next thing in my mind was Windows Phone. I think it's great alternative for Android, but when I had a fight with my moms Lumia 520, I decided not to buy Windows Phone so soon.
So my eyes looked at Android not-so latest smartphones and I saw Nexus. I felt in love with design of Nexus 4 and 5. My friend got N5 so I did play a little with it and I'd love to buy 5, but I can't afford that so the only alternative is to buy Nexus 4.
I've read that it has good hardware and Android runs smoothly even after a year of using - it's a must be for me, because it's going to be my phone for about 2-3 years from now. The only thing is that glass design - it's beautiful but isn't it vulnerable to scratches or even cracks?
And the best thing I'd love about Nexus 4 is that it's going to get Android L - it's the best information I've heard recently.
So guys... Finally. Is Nexus 4 still worth buying in 2014?
My friend is selling N4 for about 200-230$.

I can tell you, the Nexus 4 is worth every penny, also in 2014 too!
Not only the Nexus 4 has good hardware and everything runs smooth und fast but the community behind this device is great, gentle and helpful. Just take a look at the Nexus 4 threads here on xda. This is just awesome! :good:
With the vanilla android and open source policy of the Nexus 4 you can customize this device to your hearts content. Cyanogenmod, ParanoidAndroid, matr1x kernel, ak...just to name a few examples.
I also own a Nexus 4 since 1 and a half year and its runs like Usain Bolt.

Honestly you shouldn't buy the N4. The phone is very fragile. The glass on the back is thin and is not protected with Gorilla Glass. The Camera is not good, Galaxy S3 has a better camera than the Nexus 4. That is both video and still photos. The battery is average and will last you through a day, maybe two days if you use a battery saving kernel like HellsDoctor.
Lot's of games do not work very well on the Nexus 4, for some reason, i think it's bad optimization with AOSP, because the Quad Core 1.5Ghz CPU and Adreno 320 are strong enough to play every android game. The Nexus 4 also has thermal issues, because of an internal design flaw, the CPU can get very hot (up to 60C in games) if you don't undervolt it with a custom kernel. Than the temp peaks out at maximum 45-50C.
Now i don't mean to bash the Nexus 4, i have one! The design is very nice, it has a good display (With Obsanity_Amoled it looks like an OLED display!), and it has thin bezels. The Nexus 4 is also very very fast, it could compete with the S5, HTC One M8 and Xperia Z2.
But, here is what would I do if I were to change my phone.
If i were you, i would not get the Nexus 4. or the Nexus 5. I would get a Galaxy S4, but i would go for the i9505 or the i9506, the 4G Snapdragon 600 and 800 versions.
I know they are made out of plastic but i would have hard shell case on it so it wouldn't matter.
Yes, they run on TouchWiz but guess what? You can put AOSP on them! That's nexus 4 speeds (even faster because of Snapdragon 600&800) and you get an AMAZING 13MP Camera (my friend has the i9505 and that camera is just EYE QUALITY), and you get a bigger, replaceable battery!
So what's your choice, Nexus 4, or a Galaxy S4 i9505-i9506 AOSP Edition?

I heard about fragility of this phone but I'm trying to take care about my phones . So I don't think it would be a problem - if I'd buy N4, the first thing will be buying a case or a bumper.
When we're going into games - I don't even play games on smartphone. The only games I've ever played were Angry Birds, Flappy Bird, Drop and 2048, so I'm not that "gamer" guy. I heard a little about heating up. But which smartphone hasn't that problem? Even my XMP has a heat problem when I'm using it intensively and long. But it may be a little problem when it comes to heating up even when using WiFi or something like that...
And about that Galaxy S4 is the thing that I really don't like the whole Galaxy series design. It looks too much like cheap phones for me. I much prefer the Sony or Apple design - especially iPhone 4.
I thought about Moto G too, but 1 GB of RAM isn't very convincing and I looked a little at Meizu MX3 with Flyme OS 3 - it's beautiful OS, I think. But it's battery is horrible.
And here we come... Battery... And that's the thing. 4.70" screen and 2100 mAh battery... Nexus 5 isn't better. That's hurting me a lot, that battery life.
Maybe more users will answer in this topic - I do find it very helpful.
But for now thanks for answers, guys! It's harder choice than I thought

still rocking my nexus 4 naked , for about 1 year or bit more , no cracks but some scratches here and there because it keeps sliding randomly , besides that it can easily go through next 3 years without hiccup imo , i was in almost same boat as you but i really think 200-250 is wayy wayyyyyy too much for nexus 4 these days , 150 $ for 16 gb is reasonable in mint but used condition , even if you are gamer this baby will run anything you throw at it without any stutters or anything , battery isnt issue it can last as much as any other phone if you use properly optimized kernel and default display settings suck anywhoo if you can get htc one gpe that would be also great :good:

Mashed_Potatoes said:
Honestly you shouldn't buy the N4. The phone is very fragile. The glass on the back is thin and is not protected with Gorilla Glass. The Camera is not good, Galaxy S3 has a better camera than the Nexus 4. That is both video and still photos. The battery is average and will last you through a day, maybe two days if you use a battery saving kernel like HellsDoctor.
Lot's of games do not work very well on the Nexus 4, for some reason, i think it's bad optimization with AOSP, because the Quad Core 1.5Ghz CPU and Adreno 320 are strong enough to play every android game. The Nexus 4 also has thermal issues, because of an internal design flaw, the CPU can get very hot (up to 60C in games) if you don't undervolt it with a custom kernel. Than the temp peaks out at maximum 45-50C.
Now i don't mean to bash the Nexus 4, i have one! The design is very nice, it has a good display (With Obsanity_Amoled it looks like an OLED display!), and it has thin bezels. The Nexus 4 is also very very fast, it could compete with the S5, HTC One M8 and Xperia Z2.
But, here is what would I do if I were to change my phone.
If i were you, i would not get the Nexus 4. or the Nexus 5. I would get a Galaxy S4, but i would go for the i9505 or the i9506, the 4G Snapdragon 600 and 800 versions.
I know they are made out of plastic but i would have hard shell case on it so it wouldn't matter.
Yes, they run on TouchWiz but guess what? You can put AOSP on them! That's nexus 4 speeds (even faster because of Snapdragon 600&800) and you get an AMAZING 13MP Camera (my friend has the i9505 and that camera is just EYE QUALITY), and you get a bigger, replaceable battery!
So what's your choice, Nexus 4, or a Galaxy S4 i9505-i9506 AOSP Edition?
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I completely disagree with you. Tell me a game that doesnt run well on the N4? I'm a hardcore gamer and there is barely any game that I havent played. Deciding for a phone for it's camera? If so buy a Nokia 3310 and some Nikon/Canon and you rock lol
The topic: I bough a N4 soon and 4 of my friends bough N4 after they played a bit with mine. I would buy it again if I didnt already have it.

Mavasilisk said:
I completely disagree with you. Tell me a game that doesnt run well on the N4? I'm a hardcore gamer and there is barely any game that I havent played. Deciding for a phone for it's camera? If so buy a Nokia 3310 and some Nikon/Canon and you rock lol
The topic: I bough a N4 soon and 4 of my friends bough N4 after they played a bit with mine. I would buy it again if I didnt already have it.
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NFS: Most Wanted runs perfectly but GTA Games, Gangstar Vegas, Despicable Me: Minion rush lag or run at lower framerates.

Mashed_Potatoes said:
NFS: Most Wanted runs perfectly but GTA Games, Gangstar Vegas, Despicable Me: Minion rush lag or run at lower framerates.
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Ever seen Gangstar game running smooth on any device? Even tho on the high settings i finished it w/o any lag with franco kernel. I tried all of the rest and gangstar lags but not with franco, you should try it too. Almost finished GTA:SA and it bugged my safe game also with franco kernel. Despicable me is known for its "optimization" and lagging for most of the devices. When u see bad fps try to see if other phones have it like Despicable me. And for most of the games u said are actually made by Gameloft who produce even unfinished projects so it should not make ur decision.Gameloft is like:
-ok guys we made the game what now, should we optimize it?
-dafaq you are talking about opti-what? Is it running?
-yea but with bad framerate.
-its ok man, release it we will blame people's devices. :good:

Also I'm thinking about not to buying any phone right now and get cash for Nexus 5 - I love this minimalistic design and everything. But this battery to 4.95" screen is misunderstanding...

In your place, I would absolutely go for the N4. I'm using one myself. No matter what I do to the software (hint: a LOT!) I can always get it back up and running. I love the phone and wouldn't replace it with anything other than a Nexus 5.

I've owned a Nexus 4 since the end of August 2013 and even today I still love this phone and I don't feel the urge to upgrade. (At least not until the Nexus 6 is released.)
This phone handles everything I want it to do. Its fast, snappy and simple, one of the reasons I love pure Android as there is no bloat. My phone is still completely stock from day 1 as I don't feel the need to root it. The screen is still quality in my eyes. There is also a possibility that this phone will receive Android L officially from Google which would be fantastic.
However my major grip; battery life. It is horrendous. Hardly makes it through a day for me. I even use extensive methods to save battery, for example, no Google now, location services off, phone on flight mode when WiFi is on etc. And the battery life still sucks. Its a shame the battery is not replaceable or I would have installed an extended battery as I have done in the past for previous phones.
My brother owns a Nexus 5, and from what I've seen his battery life is much much better than the Nexus 4. (He doesn't even use any optimisations and battery saving tweaks)
Comparing the Nexus 5 side by side to the Nexus 4 I don't feel a significant difference to warrant to purchase of the newer model, so when I was given the opportunity a few months ago, I turned it down and I will wait for the Nexus 6.
Bottom line; Nexus 4 is a fantastic phone, but terrible battery life.

yes
I would buy because of the communty behind it

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Hey guys,
Recently I've been thinking about changing my Xperia Mini Pro to something better. I just want to get phone that won't be laggy after some while - XMP is like that, no matter on which ROM and kernel.
I've got iPhone in my thoughts, but I don't have many friends with Apple product so it'd be useless - I wouldn't be able to use iMessage or AirDrop so functionality drops down a lot.
Next thing in my mind was Windows Phone. I think it's great alternative for Android, but when I had a fight with my moms Lumia 520, I decided not to buy Windows Phone so soon.
So my eyes looked at Android not-so latest smartphones and I saw Nexus. I felt in love with design of Nexus 4 and 5. My friend got N5 so I did play a little with it and I'd love to buy 5, but I can't afford that so the only alternative is to buy Nexus 4.
I've read that it has good hardware and Android runs smoothly even after a year of using - it's a must be for me, because it's going to be my phone for about 2-3 years from now. The only thing is that glass design - it's beautiful but isn't it vulnerable to scratches or even cracks?
And the best thing I'd love about Nexus 4 is that it's going to get Android L - it's the best information I've heard recently.
So guys... Finally. Is Nexus 4 still worth buying in 2014?
My friend is selling N4 for about 200-230$.
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The Nexus 4 is a brilliant phone right now, but its ageing processor, lack of LTE and bad battery life mean it probably won't last another 2-3 years. It is a two year old phone, after all.

I just picked up a mint one for 170 and at that price to me its a great phone now yea its just a backup to my z ultra but I am still having a lot of fun with it. I mean just look at the Dev support, its crazy good and I got LTE working in just a few mins pulled 70 down and 25 up first try on T-Mobile.
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My phone is still completely stock from day 1 as I don't feel the need to root it.
However my major grip; battery life. It is horrendous. Hardly makes it through a day for me. I even use extensive methods to save battery, for example, no Google now, location services off, phone on flight mode when WiFi is on etc. And the battery life still sucks.
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You say you don't feel the need to root it yet you have bad battery life. Now go root it and flash HellsDoctor kernel..... you'll have about 4-5 hours of screen on time

And guys, what do you think about this Moto G. I've read a little about it.
Maybe this 1 GB of RAM is not that bad. Any experiences with that smartphone?
About support - I know and that's the best thing in the whole Nexus series - community support. And I'm still hesitating between N4/N5 and now this Moto G came into my mind... It's not so expensive and hardware isn't that bad.
edit: but it doesn't havet NFC . But I think it'll get Android L:
http://www.androidorigin.com/moto-x-moto-g-android-l-5-0-lollipop-update-moto-e/

I am considering getting a second hand N4 as it's still a great phone, especially if it receives Android L from Google. I have an S4 and have been thinking about selling it as with the money (around £240) I could buy an N4 (£120) AND a Nexus 7 2013 (£110). I have the 2012 N7 so would sell it also. Just trying to figure out how much I would miss having the expandable storage option and also the camera on the S4. The other features (sensors, IR, removable battery), I think I could live without as I have them turned off pretty much all the time anyway, don't use the IR remote feature that much and take advantage of a spare battery. I think an external backup battery could be a better solution anyway (much higher capacity, can feature multiple USB ports for several phones/devices.)
Thinking about the expandable storage, it probably wouldnt be much of an issue, as my S4 is a 16GB model but you only get 8-9GB internal accessible even after debloating, where as a 16GB nexus 4 has about 13.5GB available and I could use my 32GB sd card with an OTG reader when need be, I also back up photos using Google auto backup as well which helps. Sorry just trying to convince myself to go ahead and sell my S4..

Still a great phone
In my opinion the N4 is still one of the best phones out there. I recommend it to everyone.

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In my opinion the N4 is still one of the best phones out there. I recommend it to everyone.
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yep, think so as well

I'm going with Nexus 4. Nexus 5 is too expensive for me. I won't get cash from my mother to buy Nexus 5. I'll lend some money from friend or brother for Nex 4. Nexus 4 is for about 200-250$ here, in Poland, used and in good condition but from my friend's friend . Through something like ebay maybe I could get one for 180$ but I don't want to risk broken or stolen smartphone.
So, guys, thanks for answers and advices! Thanks so much. Everyone are getting "Thanks" button from me!
Let the Nexus force be with you, guys! .

[Q] Which phone do you recommend me to upgrade to from a N4?

I have had a nexus 4 for almost 2 years and I like it. Even so it has its negative points, especially after all this time. It's not as responsive as it used to be and battery life, which wasn't stellar to begin with, has decayed a lot. With this in mind I have been searching for a good phone to replace it. I was waiting for the Nexus 6 to come out but when it was officially announced that screen size and the price scared me away.
After the announcement I have been searching and comparing a bunch of phones. I was interested on the OnePlus One but the buying process is a pain in the ass. I checked the S5 but then I remembered it had the infamous Touchwiz which I had already (even though in an earlier incarnation) on a Galaxy Ace I had before the N4 and there was also the fact that it is expensive as hell on my carrier. I also checked the HTC One M8 but the camera resolution seems horrible. I have checked the Sony Xperia line but it is as expensive as the S5 in my carrier and also pretty expensive on sites like Amazon. At last I have been comparing between a Nexus 5 and a LG G3. I know they have almost a year between them but I like the fact that the Nexus 5 is cheap and receives fast updates, although I have heard battery life was not improved very much. And, on the G3's side, it is newer, has better hardware and supposedly has a good battery life(I have heard mixed views on this as some say battery is good while others say it is horrible).
So, to sum it up, I would like to know your opinions and would also like to know if you happen to know some other options I haven't considered.
Thanks and sorry for the long post and if this wasn't the right forum to ask this.

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So, to sum it up, I would like to know your opinions and would also like to know if you happen to know some other options I haven't considered.
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Look at an LG G2. $400 for a new one, under $300 for a used one in good/mint condition. Beefy 3000mAh battery, very competent hardware, big screen in a not-so-big body, and a good amount of development if you want to try different ROMs/kernels. As cheap, or even cheaper, than a Nexus 5, but with a much bigger battery and better camera. With the G3 out, prices have plummeted on the G2, and have made it a veritable bargain.
The G3 is a hell of a phone. The QHD screen might drain the battery a bit more, but on this phone the battery is replaceable, so just buy a spare if you're worried about that. Not much development yet, but if you buy the T-Mobile version or one with an unlocked bootloader it's easy to root and modify with Xposed, which gives you plenty of options to tweak it to your satisfaction.
Regarding the HTC One's camera - it's not great, but it's not bad either. If all you're wanting to do is post pics to Facebook or internet forums, it's perfectly fine, since pictures will be reduced anyway. Where it suffers is in cropped detailed pics, and stuff like sweeping vistas and anything far away. That aside, the One is an awesome device.

My personal choice from what's available right now would definitely be the HTC One M8. If you don't care a huge deal about the camera then there are very few flaws to it at all. The camera on the M8 will definitely be worse in normal light than most other flagships but the pictures it takes are still far better than those from the N4 and in low light the camera performs better than most, not to mention the fact that it has good autofocus and a myriad of extra features which you may or may not find useful but they're still nice to have. Battery life is excellent, the screen is absolutely gorgeous, Sense brings extra features and (arguably) a nicer design than AOSP whilst retaining excellent performance and the phone is just generally far nicer to use than anything else I've tried.

Look for the Huawei Honor 6.
300$, full LTE, 16GB upgradable with microSD, beautiful 5" HD screen... I'm gonna buy this phone in the next week for replacement of my N4.

I went from a Nexus 4 to a HTC One M8 and hated it, hence why I'm back with my Nexus 4. That said, I'm definitely in the minority.
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Will you move to Nexus 2016 soon after its launch?

This poll is to determine and estimate how much the new nexus (2016) is anticipated in nexus 6 community.

Used to be YES! But not if the front speakers are gone. Sticking with n6.... Looking at ZTE axon 7 as bootloader is unlocked and twrp plus good hw and cheaper price, good speakers seems worth a better look.
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I see moving to a 5.5" screen as a downgrade.

After spending the price of two laptops on my N6 (£549) I expect it to last more than a couple of years. I like new toys, but there's a limit imposed by common sense. Newer processors may give an infinitesimal improvement in performance, which no doubt can be measured by benchmarks, but the N6 is plenty fast enough for me. The screen may not be the best around these days, but every time I watch a video I think "Wow, this is an amazing quality picture", so again, good enough for me.
No point in squandering resources, is there...?
("I spent a lot of money on booze, birds and fast cars. The rest I just squandered."
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/George_Best)

I'll stay with Nexus 6, it's the best phone I ever had, even if it's not my daily phone because it's too big, it's really wonderfull with big screen, nice resolution (ready for carboards), enought RAM, 25Go is enought for me, nice photos/videos, good stereo sound with front speakers, fast charge... :good: I still love it

The Nexus Marlin and Sailfish will indeed not be true Nexus devices. It has been announced that Google is rebranding the Nexus brand, rumored at the moment to just be called "G"; and it will not feature a stock version of android, rather there will be G-only features built into the ROM. No word of bootloader yet.
(source: http://www.theverge.com/2016/8/30/12712722/google-new-nexus-phones-brand-name-change)

If there is no Nexus device then maybe I will get the One Plus 3

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I see moving to a 5.5" screen as a downgrade.
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Me too, not going to happen as long as there are decent 6" or bigger phones available. It's a pain trying to type messages or emails on such a small screen.

I really want a 64 bit mobile to develop my rom, but the 6P might break if I think about it too hard. So I'll check the new ones, but if they are too expensive here in Europe, and the early reviews are negative, then I'll just keep my N6.

I still love my N6 but I cracked the screen a bit in the corner.
I also want to finally make the move to Project Fi so I'm hoping for a bundle deal.

If what is in the leaks is true. I rather buy note 7. Back design too ugly for me.

There are a lot of reasons why people buy a Nexus device. The 2 most common reasons I always see is either the simplicity of the device (dare I say, bare bones of what a phone should do/have) and stock skin of Android or on the other side, the complex and customisable options that is possible with the fact that Nexus devices are easy to tinker with combined with the support of the developer community who are constantly providing support for devices for years even after they reach their sell by date(shoutout to all the devs btw )
Combined with this I guess its safe to stay for the most advanced users and beginners alike it all depends on if they're specific needs are still being met for them to stay with Nexus 6 or any other device for that matter and if not then it's time to upgrade.
Personally I will probably stick with Nexus 6 for as long as it lasts me or if a phone gets released with everything the Nexus 6 is and hopefully more ( Preferably a phone such as the Xperia Z5 Ultra , if Sony ever release it )

The price is too high for me. No front facing speakers, "just" a 5.5 Inch screen etc etc. For the moment my N6 is fast and stable enough to use it for the best part of the next year as well.
Bottom line, I would rather buy a OnePlus 3, than a "New Nexus" at this point.

Did they unviel it yet? I have my credit card ready. But i love my n6 to much lol
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I've grown to the size of my phone and cant seem myself owning anything smaller.

Since first buying the Nexus 6 a couple years ago or so I've had a Moto X Pure, Huawei Mate 7, OnePlus 3, and now I'm back to the Nexus 6. This phone just has everything I want in a phone. 6 inch screen (which for me is the perfect size), simple, clean design, great development, stereo speakers, and good battery life. No point in updating to a newer phone for minimal gains in speed at the cost of at least a couple of the N6's great features.

More than likely I'm going to upgrade. My N6 will be paid off in October.

I'm ready for a smaller form factor, unless they completely **** it up and the design is completely underwhelming, I will be getting one, I'm not gonna get it on launch day like the Shamu though , gonna take my sweet time waiting for reviews to make a final decision, there is a chance I will be sticking with this device for another cycle, we'll see
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Me too, I wish they would make another Nexus with a screen this size! They did it once and never again! I LOVE my N6!

I'll be keeping my N6 or getting the One Plus 3 if what I have heard and read about the new devices is true. I just love my N6, has everything I've ever wanted (minus a removable SD and/or battery which I really don't miss). Got my son a OP3 and it is really nice, I really liked my OP1. OnePlus is as close to a Nexus as you can get and unlike recent Nexus they are still inexpensive.
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