I will be honest, my first impressions of my Nvidia Shield were so so. I love the few available games which take advantage of the controller and the beast of a graphics chip. However, last night I discovered that it would play my old roms. NES, SNES, N64. Amazing. Portable old school nintendo games for the win. Definitely worth the money I paid for it now. As new games come out, great. Goldeneye, Zelda, Street Fighter 2 on a portable? Fantastic. Anyone who has a shield should check this out.
Which emulators did you try had full shield support?
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I know for PSX games, ePSXe works perfectly with the Shield controls, and has great performance. I'm also using SuperN64 for my N64 emulator.
SuperGNES works great as well, highly recommended.
I wish the MAME dev could leverage the cpu cores with MAME. Seems games that are slow on the Tegra 3 are still slow on the Tegra 4, in spite of 2X cpu benchmarks. I appreciate that relative speed will not be proportional, but seems huge diminished return scale for now. PC version does scale with cpu speed more directly. Perhaps Dalvik byte code layer is the culprit and an operational constraint...
emulators
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I have tried various emulators. The NES and SNES emulators by Robert Broglia work excellent with the device. I just tried the N64 emulator and the PS 1 emulators also and they work well. Again, you have to map the buttons, but its a once and done process. DEFINITELY worth it.
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I have tried various emulators. The NES and SNES emulators by Robert Broglia work excellent with the device. I just tried the N64 emulator and the PS 1 emulators also and they work well. Again, you have to map the buttons, but its a once and done process. DEFINITELY worth it.
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I agree with this. It's been flawless with SNES, NES, and Nintendo DS. N64 works pretty well, but some ROMs are unplayable because of graphical issues (e.g. Conker, Jet Force Gemini, etc). Haven't tried PSx yet.
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I have tried various emulators. The NES and SNES emulators by Robert Broglia work excellent with the device. I just tried the N64 emulator and the PS 1 emulators also and they work well. Again, you have to map the buttons, but its a once and done process. DEFINITELY worth it.
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Robert Broglia didn't make those emulators, he just ported them and profiteered ruthlessly off the labor and love of others. He's... A prick, is the word? Don't speak of him.
I agree
I have transferred my entire snes and mame collection, what an amazing device,it seems that this is ideal, all other devices i have tried in the past just dont cut it.
daleph said:
I have transferred my entire snes and mame collection, what an amazing device,it seems that this is ideal, all other devices i have tried in the past just dont cut it.
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Its unreal. What a hidden gem the emulators have been for this system. You are absolutely right, the setup feels so correct for these games. Hey what do you use for MAME btw?
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N64 works pretty well, but some ROMs are unplayable because of graphical issues (e.g. Conker, Jet Force Gemini, etc)
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I have had no issues playing Conker, Banjo Kazooie, Banjo Tooie, or Mario 64. I like platformers
I suggest using the latest version of Mupen64 beta: http://www.paulscode.com/forum/index.php?topic=96.0
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Agreed. Free, full Shield support, pre-mapped controls, countless cores, support for a custom ROM folder. I popped in the MicroSD card from my SuperCard DSTWO and copied my ROMs folder. Almost everything I tried works perfectly and looks amazing. The WAD loader doesn't seem to work on the Shield but there are countless other solutions for playing WAD files, many with full Shield support.
So far I've tried cores for PSX, PCE, SNES, NES, GameBoy, GBC, GBA & Sega Genesis. All worked flawlessly. Also included Desmume the DS emulator if you want to give that a shot for free instead of shelling out $8. I've got that, Dolphin Alpha, Mupen64 Plus, PPSSPP and I'm pretty sure that covers about every emulatable console I'm interested in.
Be sure to also check out the emulators section at the bottom of the Google Docs compatibility list this forum is working on collectively. I can't post a link because I don't have a long enough post history but it's at the top of the forum.
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Robert Broglia didn't make those emulators, he just ported them and profiteered ruthlessly off the labor and love of others. He's... A prick, is the word? Don't speak of him.
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Why not? He makes a great shell and offers plenty of his own features. There is no rule in the respective license of those cores that forbids building upon them and charging for that work. His iOS emulators are second to none, and even here on Android he offers a competitive product. He was first out the gate with Wii U Pro controller support, releases very steady updates. Calling him a prick for doing something that countless mobile emulator developers do is more than a little harsh.
Hell, he still releases binaries for WebOS, which is pretty much just a labour of love at this point. An emulator core isn't everything. Unless the core developers release quality front-ends for every OS imaginable, then they should hardly be surprised or upset that someone has taken their open-source, GPLv2 licensed work and done exactly what that license allows and is intended for.
Are you guys done here??
I sincerely hope so!
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Why not? He makes a great shell and offers plenty of his own features. There is no rule in the respective license of those cores that forbids building upon them and charging for that work. His iOS emulators are second to none, and even here on Android he offers a competitive product. He was first out the gate with Wii U Pro controller support, releases very steady updates. Calling him a prick for doing something that countless mobile emulator developers do is more than a little harsh.
Hell, he still releases binaries for WebOS, which is pretty much just a labour of love at this point. An emulator core isn't everything. Unless the core developers release quality front-ends for every OS imaginable, then they should hardly be surprised or upset that someone has taken their open-source, GPLv2 licensed work and done exactly what that license allows and is intended for.
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I am not an emulation historian, and I do not own and will never again own an Apple device so I cannot comment on the IOS side of things, but my understanding is that Robert B. does what he does in violation of the wishes of the original coders. Frontends are pretty and all but I'd rather have the better emulator than a needlessly user-friendly front end. The Snes9x core in Retorarch is supposed to annihilate Broglia's old Snes9x ripoff for instance, and doesn't rely on frameskipping and speedhacking, it just does the job right, and does so on both Android and IOS. I do agree that making stuff for WebOS is "neat" and all but it's not like he's doing it for free, he's merely looking for another market to do a port job to so he can reap money off other people's labors. If Symbian was still around he'd make a port to that just so he could steal some more. With Retroarch around and becoming ever more refined I think that Robert Broglia is less relevant and less impressive than he has ever, ever been.
And saying that the developers went with a GPLv2 license so that some **** could profiteer off of it... Yeah. Not so much. Many of them regretted that decision once this situation developed, and have changed their license for newer versions. This is why the Robert B Snes emulators are running outdated, inferior versions of Snes9x, because the intelligent, talented people behind Snes9x stopped it by changing the license AFAIK. Also yes there are some other emulator developers that make front ends for other people's cores, but they typically have one or maybe two; they don't have a full panoply of them that they're funding their entire beer budget with.
Again, I could be wrong about alot of that, it's just what I've read from multiple sources - cept the WebOS theory which is just me. You may well know more about the situation than I do and I'd love to learn about it.
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I am not an emulation historian, and I do not own and will never again own an Apple device so I cannot comment on the IOS side of things, but my understanding is that Robert B. does what he does in violation of the wishes of the original coders. Frontends are pretty and all but I'd rather have the better emulator than a needlessly user-friendly front end. The Snes9x core in Retorarch is supposed to annihilate Broglia's old Snes9x ripoff for instance, and doesn't rely on frameskipping and speedhacking, it just does the job right, and does so on both Android and IOS. I do agree that making stuff for WebOS is "neat" and all but it's not like he's doing it for free, he's merely looking for another market to do a port job to so he can reap money off other people's labors. If Symbian was still around he'd make a port to that just so he could steal some more. With Retroarch around and becoming ever more refined I think that Robert Broglia is less relevant and less impressive than he has ever, ever been.
And saying that the developers went with a GPLv2 license so that some **** could profiteer off of it... Yeah. Not so much. Many of them regretted that decision once this situation developed, and have changed their license for newer versions. This is why the Robert B Snes emulators are running outdated, inferior versions of Snes9x, because the intelligent, talented people behind Snes9x stopped it by changing the license AFAIK. Also yes there are some other emulator developers that make front ends for other people's cores, but they typically have one or maybe two; they don't have a full panoply of them that they're funding their entire beer budget with.
Again, I could be wrong about alot of that, it's just what I've read from multiple sources - cept the WebOS theory which is just me. You may well know more about the situation than I do and I'd love to learn about it.
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**** or no ****, those developers posted their software with the GPLv2 license, therefore they have little ammunition against this guy as he is operating fully within the law and the license the original developers set out with. If they don't like it then they shouldnt have used that license at the time.
For reference, I dont own any of this guys emulators and likely wont ever own them either. Just pointing out that from a legal stance he has done nothing wrong.
I have almost all of his emulators and appreciate his effort. Without it, we would have lower performing versions and and no Turbografx emu. I could not disagree more as a result.
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I have almost all of his emulators and appreciate his effort. Without it, we would have lower performing versions and and no Turbografx emu. I could not disagree more as a result.
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Retroarch's turbografx/PC Engine core is superior AFAIK, it runs beautifully. The new Snes9x cores in Retroarch blow the speedhacked, coarse old ones (Robert's forks) out of the water. The Picodrive core in Retroarch (Sega master system, Genesis/megadrive/ CD/ 32x) is far superior to Robert's forked, old-code md emulator. Stella core (atari 2600) is faster than Robert's fork, The NGP core runs beautifully in Retroarch I was just using it, there's no reason to be silly and pay 4.99 to do something worse than the version you can get for free.
So pay for something ****ty or get something superior for free. Hm....
It's all old code which was forked and then jury rigged to give a roughly passable experience with lots of errors. And that costs money, mind you. Or you could use Retroarch and other open source stuff and have freshly developed and top of the line open sourced code which offers superior emulation, and pay nothing.
I've heard the guy offers good support if there are issues running the emulators properly on your device, but that's the least you can reasonably expect from someone charging $8 for an MSX emulator.
Retro just recently surfaced, so 20/20 hindsight there. PCE app has been out for about three years. Point is several years of using the apps, thanks to the dev. I have zero problem paying for somebody's effort porting to Android. I appreciate the effort.
The problem with Retroarch is you can not set discrete folders for each emu. I hope the dev does provide the option at some point.
I can't stop playing DS (DraStic) on it. It's runs about 99% of games at full speed. Normally I would NEVER pay for an emulator,i'll usually just find the apk on the net because emus should be free but for 8 bucks I didn't care. So much fun. I wish I could enjoy N64 more but mupen is crap compared to n64oid which i don't believe is being worked on anymore. By crap I mean it runs games decent enough but too many graphical glitches and the inconvenience of always having to change setting depending on the game. N64oid would work but the second analog and triggers arent recognized /:
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Potential gaming platform
I know it's been said on other forums, i'm not sure if it has been said in this one though. Anyways, with supposed unrestricted use to the services of the phone, i can't wait to see what sort of games we can see on Android. With wifi, 3g, and bluetooth, this can be the ultimate gaming platform and capitalize where wm and apple didn't. Imagine mmo's, multiplayer deathmatches, or something as simple as spades, all online or played on bluetooth. And androids focus on playing in wm territory can mean potential for a huge installer base. The future for Android looks bright indeed.
http://www.techcrunchit.com/2008/07/18/google-remove-xmpp-support-in-android/
apps for android are Managed code in java which in most cases is the enemy of speed
and supporting 3d features in cpu and gpu though
Any phone I have had since the Nokia 3300 has become a gaming phone for me. Special kudos to playing Dragon Warrior I & II on the Nokia 6600's gameboy emulator.
(I wish the trackball would be on the left like gaming controllers, which was the first major thing I had to adapt to when going from Wing to G1, but oh well - what can ya do?)
The one thing i would love to see for the android is pocketnesterplus. I'm not sure if there is a way to use it with g1, but hopefully one will come out soon for the nes games. Its extremely hard to play alot of the nes games on most phones but with trackball it would be easier to control the directions. I've heard some of the top game companies are coming on board, all of them better if they're smart!!!
it seems like there was an opengl demo by google a while back where they ran doom I would like to see more 3D games esp if they are written to run off the kernel and display thru the FB device that android creates. As far as I know there is no reason that android apps NEED to be in java.... maybe to be on the market they do... but it's a linux kernel... it should run arm9/11 compiled programs
Does anyone know if there will be development of an emulator for old school consoles like NES and SNES?
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Haven't seen any announcements of one(except that there's a really slow gameboy emulator on the marketplace) but I can say with 99.999999% assurance that there will be some.
1. Get a playstation 2 or dreamcast emulator ( can vibrant handle?)
2. Get a game that truly shows off graphic capabilities?
3. Become a viable gaming platform so we can stop getting the shaft in terms quality?
You bet. With the rate of adoption of the Android platform, its only a matter of time before game developers start realizing the potential $$$ benefit to them.
I hope so. I love android compared to using iOS but when I compare the appstores I am left with a bad taste in my mouth.
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1. Get a playstation 2 or dreamcast emulator ( can vibrant handle?)
2. Get a game that truly shows off graphic capabilities?
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to answer 1: gameloft has some and its only a matter of time.
to answer 2: No. Well sort of. It will happen, just not anytime soon. The only reason the devs of the PSX and NES etc. apps are not sued out of existence by the hardware manufacturers is that they are now legally out of patent. The devs can get away with it because they don't actually offer any of the still patented games, so you could be running your own games on the emulator (similar to the Limewire and torrent justifications). The PS2's hardware is still under patent and thus can not be copied without legal action. The games are also current enough that the manufacturers might actually bother with legal action.
What is more likely is an official PSP app from Samsung that allows PSP games on android phones (which would be awesome)
EDIT: I have checked the specs on the playstation and it is easily possible, abeit illegal to make the emulator, although everything would appear really small. In fact the Galaxy S could outperform the PS2 any day.
PS2: 299 MHz 64 bit processor
Galaxy S: 1GHz processor
Ultimate emulator guide
Here is a guide of all the best emulators for android and the pro's and con's of each one. Please tell me if there are more you would like me to add to the list.
(this guide is made specifically for the xperia play) I will add more emulators over time hope this is helpful.
(Not all the emulators in this list are written by me, the ones that aren't have the users name who wrote them underneath.)
Key:
Emulators with a blue asterisk by the name (like this *) have xperia play touchpad support.
Emulators with a red asterisk by the name (like this *) Are open source. (Open source emulators have the possibility of having touch pad support implemented.)
PS1 emulators:
Fpse
Pros: Fast, great compatibility, filtering options.
Cons: Costs, no touchpad support.
Link: https://market.android.com/details?id=com.emulator.fpse&hl=en
PSXperia *
Pros: Fast, renders games at a higher resolution, good compatibility with software rendering enabled (disables high res), touchpad support, Free.
Cons: Complicated to use, doesn't work on android 2.3.4+.
Link: https://github.com/yifanlu/PSXperia/archives/master
Tiger PSOne
Pros: Free, can download games within the emulator.
Cons: doesnt work on the xperia play.
Link: http://apps.tigerplay.net/
psx4droid
Pros: Free.
Cons: doesnt work on the xperia play.
Link: http://www.zodttd.com/wp/2011/04/psx4droid-updated-to-3-0-5/
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N64 Emulators:
N64oid
Pros: Fast, accurate emulation, ability to fast forward.
Cons: Costs, No touchpad support.
Link: http://slideme.org/application/n64oid
Mupen64plus-ae **
Pros: Touchpad support, great game compatibility, ability to fast forward and slowdown games, Free.
Cons: Needs overclock for more demanding games, a few games have graphical glitches.
Comment: This emulator is still in early development but because it has touchpad support I think its a good idea to add it to the list.
Link: http://www.paulscode.com/forum/index.php?topic=96.0
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Sega Megadrive emulators (genesis):
Gensoid
Pros: Fast emulation, netplay, free.
Cons: Has some graphical glitches even in popular games like sonic.
Link: https://slideme.org/application/gensoid
MD.emu
Pros: Fast emulation, almost no graphical glitches, built in support for things like wiimote and icontrolpad.
Cons: costs, no netplay support.
Comment: Planned sega CD support.
Link: https://market.android.com/details?id=com.explusalpha.MdEmu
GenplusDroid*
Pros: almost no graphical glitches, free, shader support, ability to rewind gameplay.
Cons: Can be slower than other alternatives (needs at least 1ghz to run smoothly), no netplay support, audio pitch isn't correct in some games.
Link: https://market.android.com/details?id=ca.halsafar.genesisdroid
Tiger Genesis
Pros: Fast emulation, shows previews for your save states, can download games within the emulator, free.
Cons: Has some graphical glitches even in popular games like sonic, ad supported.
Link: http://apps.tigerplay.net
Genesis A.D.
Not tested yet
Link: https://market.android.com/details?id=com.bslapps.gens
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GBA emulators:
Gameboid
Pros: fast, compatible, free.
Cons: Audio can be slightly off with some games.
Link: http://slideme.org/application/gameboid
Tiger GBA
Pros: fast, compatible, free, shows previews for your save states, can download games within the emulator.
Cons: Audio can be slightly off with some games, ad supported.
Link: http://apps.tigerplay.net/
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GBC emulators:
Gameboid
Pros: Fast, free, works on versions of android as low as 1.5.
Cons: Havent spotted any (please point them out if you find them).
Link: http://slideme.org/application/gbcoid
GBC.emu
Pros: Fast, great UI, has built in support for things like wiimotes and icontrolpad.
Cons: Costs.
Link: https://market.android.com/details?id=com.explusalpha.GbcEmu
GambatteDroid*
Pros: Fast, Supports shaders.
Cons: Costs, sometimes has audio issues.
Link: https://market.android.com/details?id=ca.halsafar.gambattedroid
Tiger GBC
Pros: Fast, free, shows previews for your save states, can download games within the emulator.
Cons: ad supported.
Link: http://apps.tigerplay.net/
Gameboy Color A.D.
Pros: Fast, works on versions of android as low as 1.5, has an achievements system, free.
Cons: Havent spotted any (please point them out if you find them).
Link: https://market.android.com/details?id=com.bslapps.gbc&feature=search_result
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SNES emulators:
Snesoid
Pros: Fast emulation, netplay, free.
Cons: Has slowdown with some games when enabling the C core option(needed to play some games).
Link: https://slideme.org/application/snesoid
Snes9xEx
Pros: Fast emulation, Can play most games without switching to a slower core, free, has built in support for things like wiimotes and icontrolpad.
Cons: No netplay support.
Link: http://www.explusalpha.com/home/snes9x-ex
SNESDroid*
Pros: free, shader support.
Cons: Can be slower than other alternatives (needs at least 1ghz to run smoothly), no netplay support.
Comment: Not tested yet, only got these facts from the market page.
Link: https://market.android.com/details?id=ca.halsafar.snesdroid&hl=en
SNES A.D.
Not tested yet
Link: https://market.android.com/details?id=com.bslapps.snes
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NES emulators:
Nesoid
Pros: Fast, free, netplay support, works on versions of android as low as 1.5.
Cons: Havent spotted any (please point them out if you find them).
Link: http://slideme.org/application/nesoid
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Sega Saturn emulators:
Yabuase-AE*
Pros: Only sega saturn emulator, open source.
Cons: Very very very slow.
Link: http://www.paulscode.com/forum/index.php?topic=200.0
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Other Emulators:
Mame4Droid*
Pros: fast emulation, games supported by original MAME 0.37b5.
Cons: no save states.
Link: where to get it : https://market.android.com/details?id=com.seleuco.mame4all&hl=en
SToid
Pros: Has so far played just about every ST game I've loaded with no glitches. Easy to set up.
Cons: You'll need a soft keyboard complete with an esc key, function keys etc to emulate the ST keyboard for some games no big deal, Save/Load button could be laid out better.
Comments: Well worth the £1.44 if you dig ST games and that unforgettable sound.
Link: https://market.android.com/details?id=com.emulator.stoid
*written by Deu5Vult*
Ataroid
Pros: Free, fast emulation, games supported all Atari 2600
Cons: Havent spotted any (Does lack of old school joystick count?)
Link: where to get it : http://slideme.org/application/ataroid
*written by persain*
ColEm - Colecovision Emulator
Pros: Good game support, saves state on exit and you can restart from where you were next time.
Cons: The ad version is annoying, but there is a paid version available
Link: https://market.android.com/details?id=com.fms.colem&hl=en
*written by gbesta*
fMSX - MSX Emulator
Pros: MSX, MSX2 and MSX2+ emulation
Cons: None so far
Link: https://market.android.com/details?id=com.fms.fmsx.deluxe
*written by gbesta*
PCE.emu - PCEngine emulator
Pros: Just works. Saves position on exit. No slowdown or audio glitches on my xperia play.
Cons: None so far
Link: https://market.android.com/details?id=com.PceEmu&hl=en
*written by gbesta*
ScummVM*
Pros: Smooth emulation, save states, free.
Cons: Right clicking is tricky, but it's rarely needed.
Link: https://market.android.com/details?id=org.scummvm.scummvm
*written by juxtapose519*
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Unreleased or Discontinued emulators:
NullDCe (Dreamcast emulator)
Pros: appears to run full speed on a galaxy S 2.
Cons: no public release.
Comment: appears to be in development but no word from the dev for a long time.
Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-dm2lMJnSI&feature=channel_video_title
n64droid (N64 emulator)
Pros: none
Cons: none
Comment: was in development by zodttd but was never released.
Link: none
TigerNDS (DS emulator)
Pros: none.
Cons: very very slow, no sound.
Comments: Discontinued.
Link: http://apps.tigerplay.net/
nds4droid (DS emulator)
Pros: none.
Cons: very very slow, no sound.
Comments: Discontinued.
Link: none.
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FAQ:
What is netplay?
Netplay lets you play multiplayer with a friend who is on another android device via either bluetooth or wifi.
What are shaders?
Shaders are filters that go on top of the gameplay to try change or improve the graphic quality, there are tonnes of shaders to choose from so if you dont like one you can always find another somewhere online. Its also important to note that some shaders can slow down emulation.
Can I help with this guide?
Sure! Just add you emulator of choice in the comments and fill it out using the template below (remember to remove the bits in the brackets!). I will add any emulators filled out in this format to the op.
(Emulator name)
Pros: (whats great about it)
Cons: (any downsides)
Comments: (this is optional)
Link: (where to get it)
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If I miss any emulators please point them out, clones dont count.
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Just want to add a bit about the SNES emulators...we wary of any that you need to pay for. Some of them use Snes9X as their base and the license agreement for Snes9X says it needs to be distributed for free.
Snes9X EX is the one to use, and I believe is the only one that licneses Snes9X properly.. For some reason it's been removed from the market but you can find it by googling. A good advantage is that you don't need to map the XPlay's buttons manually, it's already done for you, which is nice. Great compatibility, emulates most games perfectly though I have noticed some stutters and occasional slowdown in A Link to the Past. Donkey Kong Country also runs noticeably faster than in should, and I haven't found a way to slow it back down to normal speed yet.
Snes AD is also pretty good. Free on the market. I'm not sure what it's based on though. Also great compatibility. Doesn't have the problem with DKC running too quickly. Some logo screens don't work properly. You'll need to map the buttons yourself.
Thanks for the info
White_Pointer said:
Just want to add a bit about the SNES emulators...we wary of any that you need to pay for. Some of them use Snes9X as their base and the license agreement for Snes9X says it needs to be distributed for free.
Snes9X EX is the one to use, and I believe is the only one that licneses Snes9X properly.. For some reason it's been removed from the market but you can find it by googling. A good advantage is that you don't need to map the XPlay's buttons manually, it's already done for you, which is nice. Great compatibility, emulates most games perfectly though I have noticed some stutters and occasional slowdown in A Link to the Past. Donkey Kong Country also runs noticeably faster than in should, and I haven't found a way to slow it back down to normal speed yet.
Snes AD is also pretty good. Free on the market. I'm not sure what it's based on though. Also great compatibility. Doesn't have the problem with DKC running too quickly. Some logo screens don't work properly. You'll need to map the buttons yourself.
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Yep im pretty aware of the fakes, most of them are just rip offs of snesoid.
When I do a write up about the snes emulators I will put up snesoid, snes ad, snes9xEX and snesdroid since its the only snes emulator for android that supports shaders.
What's the advantage to supporting shaders? I thought they were a 3d thing.
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What's the advantage to supporting shaders? I thought they were a 3d thing.
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Think of them as a filter that goes on top of the game that can do things like smooth out the graphics a bit so it doesn't look as pixely or anti-aliasing shaders so objects dont have jagged edges. They basically try to make the old games look better.
One of my fave shaders for PC emulators is the cartoon shaders for epsxe. They make PS1 games look cel-shaded.
Vid of crash bandicoot with cartoon shaders
awesome post, i've booked marked this one to keep tabs on all the emulators! thumbs up!
Search the Android Market & SlideMe, there are more GBA emulators than just one...
CrimsonSentinel13 said:
Search the Android Market & SlideMe, there are more GBA emulators than just one...
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They are all clones of gameboid, but please do post here if you find any that are not clones.
Edit: did find some legitimate ones that were not gameboid clones but they were all pretty terrible. No real advantages over gameboid.
Most of the emulators I post here have some sort of advantage over each other.
bubblegumballon said:
They are all clones of gameboid, but please do post here if you find any that are not clones.
Edit: did find some legitimate ones that were not gameboid clones but they were all pretty terrible. No real advantages over gameboid.
Most of the emulators I post here have some sort of advantage over each other.
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I did notice that similarity with many of them. Thanks for the list by the way.
White_Pointer said:
Just want to add a bit about the SNES emulators...we wary of any that you need to pay for. Some of them use Snes9X as their base and the license agreement for Snes9X says it needs to be distributed for free.
Snes9X EX is the one to use, and I believe is the only one that licneses Snes9X properly.. For some reason it's been removed from the market but you can find it by googling. A good advantage is that you don't need to map the XPlay's buttons manually, it's already done for you, which is nice. Great compatibility, emulates most games perfectly though I have noticed some stutters and occasional slowdown in A Link to the Past. Donkey Kong Country also runs noticeably faster than in should, and I haven't found a way to slow it back down to normal speed yet.
Snes AD is also pretty good. Free on the market. I'm not sure what it's based on though. Also great compatibility. Doesn't have the problem with DKC running too quickly. Some logo screens don't work properly. You'll need to map the buttons yourself.
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Can we not start with this stupid argument again please, snes9x is open source and covered by the GPL. Under the GPL rules there is nothing wrong with people using the source, making there own emulator and charging.
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Very useful thread would be a good idea to sticky this thread maybe
I updated the OP, If somebody has used the emulators that say "not tested yet" please post how they perform here plus any advantaged/disadvantages they have over other alternatives.
mac_d4di said:
Very useful thread would be a good idea to sticky this thread maybe
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Haha that would be pretty cool
I dont mind if its stickied but it might be better to wait until I finish it first.
Very useful info mate. Nice one. Am shocked about nulldce, looked very interesting.
Seeing as there are obviously people on here that know about the emus has anyone had king of fighters 2003 working. If so please could you tel me what emu, version, bios and where you got the Rom. Everyone I've tried has failed.
Cheers
Lono9885 said:
bios and where you got the Rom. Cheers
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Please don't ask for warez or where you can download them, It's forbidden in the rules, the only roms you can legally use are ones ripped from your own owned games, the same goes for bios's
Lono9885 said:
Very useful info mate. Nice one. Am shocked about nulldce, looked very interesting.
Seeing as there are obviously people on here that know about the emus has anyone had king of fighters 2003 working. If so please could you tel me what emu, version, bios and where you got the Rom. Everyone I've tried has failed.
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Yep what Androhero said, you cant ask for roms or bios. Im sure somebody could tell you what emu you need though.
I googled the game and it appears to be for the neo geo and arcades. so you either need a neogeo emulator (I could only find neo geo pocket) or a mame emulator. Ive never played the neo geo or any arcade games so I dont really know what would be the best emulators to use sorry.
Also I really hope NullDCe gets released at some point but by looking at the devs track record that might never happen, he ported his emulator to multiple other consoles including the psp but he never publicly released them.
bubblegumballoon said:
Yep what Androhero said, you cant ask for roms or bios. Im sure somebody could tell you what emu you need though.
I googled the game and it appears to be for the neo geo and arcades. so you either need a neogeo emulator (I could only find neo geo pocket) or a mame emulator. Ive never played the neo geo or any arcade games so I dont really know what would be the best emulators to use sorry.
Also I really hope NullDCe gets released at some point but by looking at the devs track record that might never happen, he ported his emulator to multiple other consoles including the psp but he never publicly released them.
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Afaik Android Arcade also plays Neo Geo roms
http://g-arcade.appspot.com/
Btw guys if you want to contribute to this thread Please post an emulator in the current format and I will add it to the OP.
Emulator name
Pros: whats great about it
Cons: any downsides
Comments: this is optional
Link: where to get it
which emulators would you say were the best for the play for the snes, GBA and Playstatio 1? also is all this emulating thing on ps1 legal?
thanks
I've tried quite a few, SNESdroid on the market didn't really work out too well, it lagged and had crackling in the audio, if you want a smooth SNES emulator, I suggest getting SNesoid, it might not be on the android market, so you're gonna have to google it, but it works perfectly. FPSe is a great PSX emulator, as for the other consoles, I don't know, because I've not tried anything else beyond those three.
Numerics said:
I've tried quite a few, SNESdroid on the market didn't really work out too well, it lagged and had crackling in the audio, if you want a smooth SNES emulator, I suggest getting SNesoid, it might not be on the android market, so you're gonna have to google it, but it works perfectly. FPSe is a great PSX emulator, as for the other consoles, I don't know, because I've not tried anything else beyond those three.
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Good info.
I +1 SNesoid. I use it to play Earthbound. Amazing game by the way
Also FPSe is the best PS1 emulator in terms of compatibility with games and devices. it's simply THE BEST.
PSXperia (another emulator / Ps1 apk) project is a good attempt at something but it really has alot of problems. I dont want to slam it but all the games I tested 8 out of 10 had problems leading to un-playability so i would not recommend this one.
Legality(my opinion not facts): I believe that if you own the games now that will give you the freedom to make a copy for your own use. As long as you aren't selling emulator packs or ISO's you should be totally fine.
This is the link to the various emulators by yongzh
I personally use PSXperia and then convert my PS1 ISO's into playable .apk's. I believe it is legal if you are using ISO images you have made from games you personally own.
i'll be damned if i understand why people keep pushing snesoid, both snesdroid and snes9x ex are far better. Snesoid had its time in the sun... like 2 years ago...people need to move onto bigger and better things.
snesdroid: best accuracy
snes9x ex: speed + accuracy
snesoid: forced linear filtering + least accurate
also keep in mind that snesoid was sold, violating the license of snes9x from which its derived. I bought and used all yongzh emulators, but with the exception of gameboid, they have pretty much all been bettered at this stage.
im inclined to agree on fpse, miles ahead of psx4droid and i love the work thats gone into psxperia, but from an ease of use standpoint ive just stuck with fpse, it does what it says on the can and does it pretty well tbh.
Thanks all, I guess that if you chipped your ps1 then it ain't legal lol
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Mael5trom said:
i'll be damned if i understand why people keep pushing snesoid, both snesdroid and snes9x ex are far better. Snesoid had its time in the sun... like 2 years ago...people need to move onto bigger and better things.
snesdroid: best accuracy
snes9x ex: speed + accuracy
snesoid: forced linear filtering + least accurate
also keep in mind that snesoid was sold, violating the license of snes9x from which its derived. I bought and used all yongzh emulators, but with the exception of gameboid, they have pretty much all been bettered at this stage.
im inclined to agree on fpse, miles ahead of psx4droid and i love the work thats gone into psxperia, but from an ease of use standpoint ive just stuck with fpse, it does what it says on the can and does it pretty well tbh.
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Snes9x is open source, under the GPL yoggz had the right to sell it, the only rule he broke was not making his source availible.
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that sounds like a licence violation to me , but thanks for clarifying.
snesoid still sucks though.
Where can I get ps1 ROMs?
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Buy the PS1 games and then make them ISO.
I use this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1326087
for an overview of the best emulators. It's a great thread and I'm a bit surprised it wasn't stickied.
AndroHero said:
Snes9x is open source, under the GPL yoggz had the right to sell it, the only rule he broke was not making his source availible.
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snes9x is NOT open source, free software or gpl licensed.
technically the source code is avaliable, but under a restrictive non-commercial use license. he did not legally have the right to sell it if it was based on snes9x.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snes9x#License
tmovids said:
I use this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1326087
for an overview of the best emulators. It's a great thread and I'm a bit surprised it wasn't stickied.
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Somebody needs to PM a Mod if they want it stickied. I probably wont be updating the list anymore buts its still pretty helpful.
Has anyone else thought of emulators on the ouya? Playing retro games on the big screen again would be great. Personally this is one of the biggest reasons I'm excited for the console. Can't wait to play ocarina of time.
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Has anyone else thought of emulators on the ouya? Playing retro games on the big screen again would be great. Personally this is one of the biggest reasons I'm excited for the console. Can't wait to play ocarina of time.
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I've bought/pre ordered the ouya primarily for xbmc, but being able to pay some classics like shadow run and legend of Zelda, whilst lying in bed on a Sunday morning is massively appealing.
It's starting to feel like Christmas with the release just around the corner and I'm looking forward to seeing what the devs around here do when they get their mucky paws on it.
cooool
No, I prefer something like the Xperia Play for emulators, though its a bit out dated in term of performance. But the Ouya should do emulators really well too. I'm mainly getting the Ouya to use as an HTPC.
ditto.
I backed OUYA mainly for XBMC but the fact that I can run emulations is a bonus. imaging DosBox with all the old school Sierra games, on the big screen.
Emulate
God i totally love the idea of using emulators on this it's another reason i purchased it. On my phone gs2 i use the playstation emulators gameboy eveyrthing now to be able to do it on a tv.... man im excited
Search YouTube. Tons of videos of devs using side loaded emulators to play old school games on the Ouya. It's reality, folks.
Grooby97 said:
ditto.
I backed OUYA mainly for XBMC but the fact that I can run emulations is a bonus. imaging DosBox with all the old school Sierra games, on the big screen.
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Betrayal at Krondor
Honestly, there's not really more "possibility" with emulation on the Ouya than there is on any other somewhat recent Android device.
There is one bad thing. The focus Ouya team are now placing on emulators could result in unneeded focus on the subject and gaming company retained lawyers could be out for money. Kind of like when MP3 started getting popular and you had a lot of one hit wonders trying to sue for a back catalogue that nobody even bought when they were new. Saturday Night Live had a funny skit about that.
Ouya had better be careful, since they are pushing it as a feature, which will be like a bleeding cut in the water to lawyers.
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I am serious. Usually I am that much.
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There is one bad thing. The focus Ouya team are now placing on emulators could result in unneeded focus on the subject and gaming company retained lawyers could be out for money. Kind of like when MP3 started getting popular and you had a lot of one hit wonders trying to sue for a back catalogue that nobody even bought when they were new. Saturday Night Live had a funny skit about that.
Ouya had better be careful, since they are pushing it as a feature, which will be like a bleeding cut in the water to lawyers.
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I dunno about having to worry that much about emulation and the legalities for the OUYA. Heck, google play sells emulators that can be used on any android device. the ouya is that itself.. just another android device. emulation isn't illegal..
The emulation is not illegal, only the BIOS and the Games which are downloaded
are more or less illegal. These would have to be copied from your own console with
special equipment... nobody does this in the time of internet.
Theoretically this things could be free to download if the copyright owner allows this.
There is also my idea, that Nintendo and others aren't interested in forbidding emulation
for some (not every) console and that's why they aren't fighting against emulation.
In Ouya you can download and install anything... So, doesn't matter if it's legal or not...
Has anyone tested the Interworks Controller Pro U (aka Retro Classic Controller) with the Ouya (or any Android device)? I'm especially interested in joystick functionality...
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I've sideloaded SNES9X emu, works good. Started playing chrono trigger, it nice it has an option to let joystick function as dpad.
I'm about to see n64oids performance on the ouya. If it does run smoothly then I guess I will be replaying Zelda oot
I personally prefer mupen64. Ouya is plenty powerful enough for it anyway
Emulators
Emulators, I hadn't even thought of that, now I'm really excited about the Ouya, mine should be arriving very soon... I think some companies turn a blind eye to very old emulated games because it keeps their IP popular, which for some franchises still has some value.
For now, i managed to work gba, nes, snes, genesis, psx and n64 emulators via sideloading and all worked smooth with posibility of assign hardware pad buttons to them
There are 3 emulators in the OUYA store.
1. EMUya for NES emulation with intergrated ROM store (I'm sure this won't go forever, pretty much illegal).
2. Mugen64 is an N64 emulator which works better than any N64 I tested before, plus it's already mapped to work with the OUYA controller and does so flawlessly. No lag whatsoever
3. 2 different SNES emulators which also work very good. One of them is already altered to work perfect with the OUYA the other one is a known one from the play store.
I got the ouya especially for emulation, because hooking up my Galaxy S3 via HDMI to the TV and using a PS3 wireless controller was too much of a hassle and had a crazy input lag. With the OUYA no input lags at all.
Feels like playing the real consoles. Finally.