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I was curious as to how many are using their Evo as a gaming device as well as its other uses. I started off playing some of the simple arcade and puzzle style games but I have recently been playing a couple of fps games from gameloft and I realize that there is a lot of potential for the evo if the developers will continue with it.
I'm playing home run battle 3d and a couple of other games.
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Yeah I have been playing quite a bit of old NES games with nesoid.
CM6 + wiimote + wii steering wheel + gps dash mount + dremel + gorilla glue = emulator fun. I have been mostly playing old SNES games, but I have a 40 minute bus ride to & from work so I have to kill the time somehow.
Until I saw the demo for NOVA and Sandstorm I never realized that 3d gaming had come so far for android. Those are the 2 main games that I am playing right now.
It's perfect for RPG's which is my favorite type of games. Play final fantasy tactics as we speak. I never owned a ps1 myself so theres a lot of rpg games for me to play.
Am I the only who likes Meteor Blitz? It's just about my favorite handheld game of all time! Like a Geometry Wars mobile.
PSXDroid is pretty nice. I continually encounter graphical glitches though, which is utterly annoying.
SandStorm is neat, Nova is a fun FPS as well. Pretty much most of Gamelofts releases are enjoyable. Well, minus Assassin's Creed.
There's a guy working on Starcraft for Android, but I think the projects gone dead in the water.
Finally, Quake III on Android. Or, Kwaak3
Also, this may not be the best place to post anything about iOS, because I know quick people can be to hate on the iPhone. But Steve Jobs aside, who else is impressed by Epic Game's Infinity Blade and Mutant Bash TV by Id running on the Rage iOS engine?
I'm totally floored by it to be honest. Had no idea a 1GHz processor with 512MB RAM could achieve graphics on this level.
It's only a matter of time before a company creates an engine like this for Android Devices. Development is either already in the works or right around the corner.
*Cough* PSP Phone *Cough*
The prospects are incredible! The only thing that bugs me is that I use to play my old GameBoys till the battery died when I was out and about. It will just really suck if I do the same with my EVO. That would put my day dead in the water if I didn't have a back up battery or wall outlet near by....
I am waiting patiently for oooecao to release their games!
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Until I saw the demo for NOVA and Sandstorm I never realized that 3d gaming had come so far for android. Those are the 2 main games that I am playing right now.
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I second that, I'm playing nova as well and it runs smooth with no hiccups.
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I am waiting patiently for oooecao to release their games!
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Elaborate,
Google search = Nothing
I'm curious.
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Am I the only who likes Meteor Blitz? It's just about my favorite handheld game of all time! Like a Geometry Wars mobile.
PSXDroid is pretty nice. I continually encounter graphical glitches though, which is utterly annoying.
SandStorm is neat, Nova is a fun FPS as well. Pretty much most of Gamelofts releases are enjoyable. Well, minus Assassin's Creed.
There's a guy working on Starcraft for Android, but I think the projects gone dead in the water.
Finally, Quake III on Android. Or, Kwaak3
Also, this may not be the best place to post anything about iOS, because I know quick people can be to hate on the iPhone. But Steve Jobs aside, who else is impressed by Epic Game's Infinity Blade and Mutant Bash TV by Id running on the Rage iOS engine?
I'm totally floored by it to be honest. Had no idea a 1GHz processor with 512MB RAM could achieve graphics on this level.
It's only a matter of time before a company creates an engine like this for Android Devices. Development is either already in the works or right around the corner.
*Cough* PSP Phone *Cough*
The prospects are incredible! The only thing that bugs me is that I use to play my old GameBoys till the battery died when I was out and about. It will just really suck if I do the same with my EVO. That would put my day dead in the water if I didn't have a back up battery or wall outlet near by....
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Those iOS games are insane, I can't wait till we have them on Android. Epic has already demoed their Unreal Engine on Android so we will definitely have some sick games coming soon.
BTW, what ROM/theme are you running in the pic in your sig?
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Those iOS games are insane, I can't wait till we have them on Android. Epic has already demoed their Unreal Engine on Android so we will definitely have some sick games coming soon.
BTW, what ROM/theme are you running in the pic in your sig?
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I know, they just need to come out with a decent controller for handheld devices. I almost want to go out and pick up a WiiMote just for my EVO. I have a PS3 controller but I've read that it will probably never happen because of technicalities with bluetooth between the two. I use my PS3 Controller to play Halo on my Netbook, so much fun! Makes airplane flights a breeze.
Just put a vice grip on a pad with a few buttons and put on a MicroUSB connector with an input on the pad for charging and call it done.
I keep reading about people whom have tested some of these Rage iOS games complaining that the controls blow. Especially Mutant Bash TV, it's tilt shift. I mean REALLY!? I tend to get p'd off at DoodleJump, let alone an FPS.
Stock ROM, unREVOked. Theme is custom.
Better off with a epic, you got the keyboard for controls and better GPU.
which is my problem... I don't use my phone for gaming, so it has no use for me lol
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Better off with a epic, you got the keyboard for controls and better GPU.
which is my problem... I don't use my phone for gaming, so it has no use for me lol
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Lol, 4 of my friends recently jumped on to the Epic from TP2's (we all get the same phones, its kinda wierd) But i have an Evo. I play games on mine and its pretty good, but i tell them that games play better on the Epic due to the GPU/CPU and none of them play games, haha.
I got the usual great android games on plus, snesoid,nesoid,gensoid, psx4droid. The emulators are much better when rooted with a kernel that allows for better multi touch,(I'm currently on kings bfs11). I have hundreds games just between the emulators. I would consider psx4droid unplayable unless u had such a kernel. The biggest problem with playing the games is the lack of better multi touch, and thats y I will never b unrooted again.
Swyped from my Evo
they need to change up the controllers. Instead of using the forward, back, left, right motions on the screen, use the gyroscope to do those, and then in the left hand have the movement of the gun, and in the right hand, have the shooting or w/e.
Has anyone here tried Heavy Gunner?
I've been on a real gaming spree ever since I got the Evo!
Super K.O Boxing is really nice
SpeedX 3D is my favorite!
N.O.V.A was a b*t*h to get working, but it's by far the most graphically intense game.
Caligo Chaser is alright if you like more cartoony RPGs. The best part of the game is that when you adjust your gear it visually reflects on the character, lots of choices too!
Fruit Ninja is a fun, friendly style, potentially competitive style game
I just tried Meteor Blitz, thanks for the recommendation! I do wish the movement controls were less sensitive however.
Android is a fantastic platform for gaming, unfortunately it's not the only one and developers are limited
I tried a couple of the emulators but the game rom's I downloaded showed the game on a tiny screen and the controls did not work well at all. I guess I need to try some different games roms. Sandstorm is as graphically intensive as NOVA if not more so. I tried Avatar but the gameplay was a little confusing for me at times. Bottom line is that android is a great gaming platform and the Evo is a good hard device for gaming. I have a kindle and a zuneHD and was getting ready to get a psp. Now the Evo is truly an all in one device for me. It will do what all of those will do. Sure it uses a lot of battery but I would rather switch batteries during the day than to cary 3 or 4 devices and chargers when I travel.
MMORPG: Pocket Legends. That thang was just released today.
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so why is it so hard to get Need for speed shift? why not in the market? why are there no good games in the market? on my old iphone i played many awesome games like nfsshift, street fighter 4, fifa soccer, chaos rings most of all Grand theft Auto chinatown wars. when i look in the market, there a bunch of crappy games, i mean common no words with friends or scrabble or bejeweled? my opinion, get a 64 gb ipod touch, you get your games and great music integration with itunes, plus 32gb extra possible storage. and its thin. i love my evo but no-matter what mods i do to it its not good at graphic intensive stuff, i cant even run the ocean waves wallpaper without it choppin like Jackie chan.
p.s. also looked for pocket legends, nothing in market for that either
So I was apprehensive about purchasing an Ouya after finding out about the recovery issue:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2326377&highlight=let+ouya+know
http://forums.ouya.tv/discussion/1380/recovery-mode
But I went ahead and got one from Amazon anyway. Rooted it, running Nova Launcher rather than the Ouya one, Installed the Google Play Store.... XBMC ...
played a few games a bit.
It's not perfect. But I'm loving it anyway.
I just don't wanna brick it, so I haven't tried any of the alternate ROMs. I'd love to throw CM10 on this little cube.
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If you love your Ouya... this is your thread.
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So I was apprehensive about purchasing an Ouya after finding out about the recovery issue:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2326377&highlight=let+ouya+know
http://forums.ouya.tv/discussion/1380/recovery-mode
But I went ahead and got one from Amazon anyway. Rooted it, running Nova Launcher rather than the Ouya one, Installed the Google Play Store.... XBMC ...
played a few games a bit.
It's not perfect. But I'm loving it anyway.
I just don't wanna brick it, so I haven't tried any of the alternate ROMs. I'd love to throw CM10 on this little cube.
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If you love your Ouya... this is your thread.
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I love it! it works perfectly as a low power media center and the games I run on it work well. I'm just having a hard time making it detect my SD card but i'm almost there...
I personally can't stand the overlay, so when I get the chance (and energy), I'll try to put CM10 on it, at which point I expect I'll be fine with it. The controller is awful though (for me, anyway), so I'm looking forward to connecting some cheap USB hardware once I get back to school to use it as a media server. I require basically nothing else from it.
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I personally can't stand the overlay, so when I get the chance (and energy), I'll try to put CM10 on it, at which point I expect I'll be fine with it. The controller is awful though (for me, anyway), so I'm looking forward to connecting some cheap USB hardware once I get back to school to use it as a media server. I require basically nothing else from it.
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Its perfect as media server. USB keyboard and mouse work great on it. In the mean time, try blue board.
Also by overlay, I assume you mean the interface itself. You can just install Nova Launcher.
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Its perfect as media server. USB keyboard and mouse work great on it. In the mean time, try blue board.
Also by overlay, I assume you mean the interface itself. You can just install Nova Launcher.
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The launcher is the tip of the iceberg when it comes to annoyances: a lot of things I do daily on other devices involve weird workarounds and jumping through "user-friendly" panels. I really don't have a patience with most customized skins, so it's really not worth my time until I can flash CM. As with all things, mileage varies, so take this for what it is.
I personally enjoy the Interface. Coming from an MK808 with a stock Android experience, screwing with the UI using an Airmouse or controller was a pain in the butt. I love the simplicity and being able to just pick what I want and go.
I could see if you are using it more as a media server. But just for playing games (what I purchased it for) the UI is awesome.
The Gamepad leaves a little to be desired for. Really, nothing beats a PS3 gamepad for retro gaming. The OUYA gamepad feels nice, but it feels like a 360 pad... with its iffy circle dpad. The controller responds very well but the dpad makes retro gaming a bit cumbersome. The PS3 is also lighter and just feels right. Fortunately the PS3 pad pairs effortlessly and has become my main go to for EMU's.
Overall I love it. Mine took a factory reset before it saw my USB HDD, but good to go. The Ouya Store is a little cluttered. They have Top Favorites like 5 times and each has duplicate games... so you keep seeing the same ones over and over. Right now, the store is barren, so finding something is easy if you search by categories. This WILL be a problem as it expands.
I'd also like to see some simple categories like Top Ten Downloaded, Most Liked, and Newest Releases... even "Latest Updates" which just shows apps that have been updated. This would be nice since some early versions have bugs. On several occasions I have passed up an app because of issues, then forget about it only to find later it was fixed pretty quickly.
There is a lack of online multiplayer apps. Local Multiplayer Emulators is mostly what I purchased the console for in the first place. And that it does almost flawlessly.
I absolutely LOVE my OUYA! I love the interface and even the controller, even with the less than perfect D-pad. I've had more fun with some of these games than I have on my 360 in a long time. And actually I've played more games for longer since I got my OUYA than all year on my PS3/360/PC (excluding MMO's)
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I'd also like to see some simple categories like Top Ten Downloaded, Most Liked, and Newest Releases... even "Latest Updates" which just shows apps that have been updated. This would be nice since some early versions have bugs. On several occasions I have passed up an app because of issues, then forget about it only to find later it was fixed pretty quickly.
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I think this is something they're working on. They actually added a "New Release" category yesterday that made me happy, although I'm not sure how they sort it because some of the new releases were not actually on there. Even then, they need less top 5 lists and more broad categories with SUB categories. I believe 1 level deep should solve a lot of the problems we're currently seeing.
Love my ouya, but have nothing to compare with, i am a pc user.
Bought it for the games and then discovered the emulators. Installed battle city and having the blast with my friend.
Also bought the hocky kickass game and got owned by my little bro :/
So ye, perfectly satisfied with myvpurchase.
And also a big thumb to all the devs, and moders to make it even awesomer
My history and experiences are a bit different but my reactions are similar to everyone else here.
I started messing around with "hacking" game consoles about 10 years ago with an Xbox 1. Pretty quickly became a serious XBMC user.
I actually was only initially interested in the Ouya as a way to get a tiny / silent dedicated XBMC box. The fact that it is a hacker-friendly box that runs Android and is sort of an indie game haven did not hurt at all.
I honestly didn't expect to use it for gaming at all, but I've been surprised to find that that's mostly what I use it for.
The whole "everything is free to try!" model changed the way I found and bought games. The fact that almost all the games are cheap as hell compared to "real" console games doesn't hurt either.
I have done several Kickstarter items in the past, and so I know that the Ouya team is smaller than they should be and has had to solve a lot of unexpected issues along the way, so I am not surprised that a bunch of unsolved issues remain. However, overall I am satisfied with all that it does. There are seriously a bunch of great Ouya games, like TowerFall, Bomb Squad, Hidden In Plain Sight, The Little Crane That Could, etc.
I have been a pretty busy guy in general lately, and so I honestly don't feel like I have the time to play some of these 80+ hour AAA titles that are around right now. In that respect the Ouya has been great. Every aspect of the commitment level from the user is significantly less than other consoles, and I like that.
As others have said, there are some things about the system that bug me, but overall, I can't be bothered with ROMs right now.
It does everything I want already, and the random cool crap you theoretically could maybe do with a ROM doesn't presently overrule my fear that I may brick my Ouya.
At this point I think my laziness also is a big thing. It works well enough as is, so I'm not sufficiently motivated to mess with it yet. Obviously, me browsing this forum means I'm thinking about it though
I am loving my ouya as well! And my roomate who has berated me about my purchase since january, calling ouya an obvious failure, conceded. After having it for 2 days, he stated he is going to pick one up for himself now that they are supposedly available retail. if you went into this thing with reasonable expectations, you will be very happy. if you heard "console" and thought "PS3.5" you are going to be disappointed, but whatever man, you were a fool so GFY.
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I love mine. It likes to fight, but I like to fight back. Getting it to function perfectly is a game itself. As far as games, I recommend You Don't Know Jack and Vendetta Online. Good games that work great; vendetta just isn't consistent with what the menus say controls are.
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I got it for retro gaming and sideload some better emulators and it works great. Can't wait for better roms tho
At this point I'm unimpressed. It feels like it needed another 6 months in development, especially the UI. The library is also very week. There are a few gems like towerfall, but the vast majority of games don't warrant more than 3 minutes of play.
I was underwhelmed at first but now I have the play store, access to my games, emulators, and another launcher running I love it.
I think I will have to purchase a usb hub and a mouse and keyboard before I am truely happy.
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I'm LOVING my Ouya!
Towerfall might be my favorite multiplayer game ever!
My OUYA is amazing. Rooted and CWM already. But still waiting for goog CM port on it)
I still feel burned over the recovery issue - they shouldn't have sold it as open the way they did if they weren't planning on actually living up to that claim....
But....
Overall I'm still extremely happy with mine. The original controllers I got were absolute trash, but they replaced them quickly when I contacted support (thankfully I got mine in late May before they ran out of replacement controllers) and the replacements are fine. The wireless has me wondering if they actually had anyone with any kind of RF experience involved in the design - wifi is horrible and the bluetooth isn't much better. Sitting just 10' from mine the controllers will freak out if I don't sit forward in my seat with a completely unobstructed path between them and the Ouya. The interface isn't great and the Discover section needs a TON of work....but that's software and I'm sure we'll see some major changes there sooner rather than later.
Due to the recovery issue I haven't done much hacking on mine other than root/busybox and a few things like Titanium. But that wasn't my main reason for wanting it - it was what put me over the edge since I figured it was a good price for a Tegra3 board to play with if Ouya tanked....but I was still hoping they'd pull it off and have some decent games. And while the game selection isn't anything to get excited about just yet...it's been getting better and better quicker and quicker and I've had no problem finding games I want to play on it. Heck I've actually bought more games on it than I did for my Wii (the last console I bought) which is mostly due to the fact that while I've bought more games for the Ouya than I did for the Wii I've spent less on games for the Ouya than I did on just one game for the Wii
The main reason I'm happy with it though is because I do believe in the dream and I do love Indie games. And even better having this thing sitting here has finally gotten me to get serious about sinking my teeth into Java and Android development. I cobbled together a few quick and dirty sample apps a few years ago before I even had an android device to run them on (ran them on the emulator and then my wife's phone since she got to upgrade a year before me) but haven't gone any further because while I may be able to sling some code I'm just not that good at making things look nice and my co-workers who are are apple guys who don't want to help me develop for Android. But they're also gamers and are interested in the Ouya so we're finally on the same page and working on some ideas. I was blown away by how easily I was able to get some simple game proof of concepts functional and so was my co-worker. It's been a dream of mine to make my own game for a console since I got my first Atari 2600. I looked into the Wii homebrew scene...but again none of my graphically gifted co-workers had a Wii and weren't interested in doing anything for it so I never got past some quick test code. To finally have a system I can make code for and a friend who's interested in joining forces to make something....it's a dream come true.
Now if I just had more time to play games on it and/or write more code for it
I love this machine! Much better when its Rooted/CWM, its great to have friends over and hookup ps3 controllers to play Smash Bros or play any EMU games, and super portable for travelling.
I'm not already hooked by my Ouya (well almost)
I think it's really a matter of youthness : I'm currently a little disapointed by the quality of the graphics on the games, and to be honest I'm not that fan of graphics
But I can't help to notice the graphics gap between Android mobile games and Ouya games whereas our little square friend pack a very capable GPU (Tegra 3)
I also miss mass player online games which is for me a nice argument for Ouya (I do have friends !)
Again I think the future will be beautifull since Ouya games currently available are essentially from indie enthousiastics who don't have necessary big fund
Finally, I don't regret my Ouya AT ALL, I'm really happy to be a baker
i find it a bit odd how people often emphasize that they use it mainly for emulating the classic consoles.
people could have saved themselves a great bit of money by just buying some no-brand Android device, and even gotten a device that was pre rooted, had official Play store, hardware recovery option 5 full size USB plugs, bluetooth and even SD slot. All for something like half the prize of the OUYA.
At this point i must say i am not to crazy about it. i feel that OUYA have really made an effort in locking down the console rather than living up to their promise of openness. Everything from the OUYA launcher being a walled garden, to no direct access to your own file system, no root access / superuser priviledges, no hardware option for recovery state and no play store access.
i really like the look and also the controller. But i also got this for a silent XBMC dedicated device. i will however wait for a linux based build before that dream come through. i was hoping that i could play and hack around with until then. But without a hardware recovery option, i will just wait for a good Linux based XBMC port instead.
I will be honest, my first impressions of my Nvidia Shield were so so. I love the few available games which take advantage of the controller and the beast of a graphics chip. However, last night I discovered that it would play my old roms. NES, SNES, N64. Amazing. Portable old school nintendo games for the win. Definitely worth the money I paid for it now. As new games come out, great. Goldeneye, Zelda, Street Fighter 2 on a portable? Fantastic. Anyone who has a shield should check this out.
Which emulators did you try had full shield support?
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I know for PSX games, ePSXe works perfectly with the Shield controls, and has great performance. I'm also using SuperN64 for my N64 emulator.
SuperGNES works great as well, highly recommended.
I wish the MAME dev could leverage the cpu cores with MAME. Seems games that are slow on the Tegra 3 are still slow on the Tegra 4, in spite of 2X cpu benchmarks. I appreciate that relative speed will not be proportional, but seems huge diminished return scale for now. PC version does scale with cpu speed more directly. Perhaps Dalvik byte code layer is the culprit and an operational constraint...
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I have tried various emulators. The NES and SNES emulators by Robert Broglia work excellent with the device. I just tried the N64 emulator and the PS 1 emulators also and they work well. Again, you have to map the buttons, but its a once and done process. DEFINITELY worth it.
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I have tried various emulators. The NES and SNES emulators by Robert Broglia work excellent with the device. I just tried the N64 emulator and the PS 1 emulators also and they work well. Again, you have to map the buttons, but its a once and done process. DEFINITELY worth it.
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I agree with this. It's been flawless with SNES, NES, and Nintendo DS. N64 works pretty well, but some ROMs are unplayable because of graphical issues (e.g. Conker, Jet Force Gemini, etc). Haven't tried PSx yet.
Get retroarch best emulator experience on shield, and its free
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I have tried various emulators. The NES and SNES emulators by Robert Broglia work excellent with the device. I just tried the N64 emulator and the PS 1 emulators also and they work well. Again, you have to map the buttons, but its a once and done process. DEFINITELY worth it.
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Robert Broglia didn't make those emulators, he just ported them and profiteered ruthlessly off the labor and love of others. He's... A prick, is the word? Don't speak of him.
I agree
I have transferred my entire snes and mame collection, what an amazing device,it seems that this is ideal, all other devices i have tried in the past just dont cut it.
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I have transferred my entire snes and mame collection, what an amazing device,it seems that this is ideal, all other devices i have tried in the past just dont cut it.
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Its unreal. What a hidden gem the emulators have been for this system. You are absolutely right, the setup feels so correct for these games. Hey what do you use for MAME btw?
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N64 works pretty well, but some ROMs are unplayable because of graphical issues (e.g. Conker, Jet Force Gemini, etc)
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I have had no issues playing Conker, Banjo Kazooie, Banjo Tooie, or Mario 64. I like platformers
I suggest using the latest version of Mupen64 beta: http://www.paulscode.com/forum/index.php?topic=96.0
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Agreed. Free, full Shield support, pre-mapped controls, countless cores, support for a custom ROM folder. I popped in the MicroSD card from my SuperCard DSTWO and copied my ROMs folder. Almost everything I tried works perfectly and looks amazing. The WAD loader doesn't seem to work on the Shield but there are countless other solutions for playing WAD files, many with full Shield support.
So far I've tried cores for PSX, PCE, SNES, NES, GameBoy, GBC, GBA & Sega Genesis. All worked flawlessly. Also included Desmume the DS emulator if you want to give that a shot for free instead of shelling out $8. I've got that, Dolphin Alpha, Mupen64 Plus, PPSSPP and I'm pretty sure that covers about every emulatable console I'm interested in.
Be sure to also check out the emulators section at the bottom of the Google Docs compatibility list this forum is working on collectively. I can't post a link because I don't have a long enough post history but it's at the top of the forum.
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Robert Broglia didn't make those emulators, he just ported them and profiteered ruthlessly off the labor and love of others. He's... A prick, is the word? Don't speak of him.
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Why not? He makes a great shell and offers plenty of his own features. There is no rule in the respective license of those cores that forbids building upon them and charging for that work. His iOS emulators are second to none, and even here on Android he offers a competitive product. He was first out the gate with Wii U Pro controller support, releases very steady updates. Calling him a prick for doing something that countless mobile emulator developers do is more than a little harsh.
Hell, he still releases binaries for WebOS, which is pretty much just a labour of love at this point. An emulator core isn't everything. Unless the core developers release quality front-ends for every OS imaginable, then they should hardly be surprised or upset that someone has taken their open-source, GPLv2 licensed work and done exactly what that license allows and is intended for.
Are you guys done here??
I sincerely hope so!
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Why not? He makes a great shell and offers plenty of his own features. There is no rule in the respective license of those cores that forbids building upon them and charging for that work. His iOS emulators are second to none, and even here on Android he offers a competitive product. He was first out the gate with Wii U Pro controller support, releases very steady updates. Calling him a prick for doing something that countless mobile emulator developers do is more than a little harsh.
Hell, he still releases binaries for WebOS, which is pretty much just a labour of love at this point. An emulator core isn't everything. Unless the core developers release quality front-ends for every OS imaginable, then they should hardly be surprised or upset that someone has taken their open-source, GPLv2 licensed work and done exactly what that license allows and is intended for.
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I am not an emulation historian, and I do not own and will never again own an Apple device so I cannot comment on the IOS side of things, but my understanding is that Robert B. does what he does in violation of the wishes of the original coders. Frontends are pretty and all but I'd rather have the better emulator than a needlessly user-friendly front end. The Snes9x core in Retorarch is supposed to annihilate Broglia's old Snes9x ripoff for instance, and doesn't rely on frameskipping and speedhacking, it just does the job right, and does so on both Android and IOS. I do agree that making stuff for WebOS is "neat" and all but it's not like he's doing it for free, he's merely looking for another market to do a port job to so he can reap money off other people's labors. If Symbian was still around he'd make a port to that just so he could steal some more. With Retroarch around and becoming ever more refined I think that Robert Broglia is less relevant and less impressive than he has ever, ever been.
And saying that the developers went with a GPLv2 license so that some **** could profiteer off of it... Yeah. Not so much. Many of them regretted that decision once this situation developed, and have changed their license for newer versions. This is why the Robert B Snes emulators are running outdated, inferior versions of Snes9x, because the intelligent, talented people behind Snes9x stopped it by changing the license AFAIK. Also yes there are some other emulator developers that make front ends for other people's cores, but they typically have one or maybe two; they don't have a full panoply of them that they're funding their entire beer budget with.
Again, I could be wrong about alot of that, it's just what I've read from multiple sources - cept the WebOS theory which is just me. You may well know more about the situation than I do and I'd love to learn about it.
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I am not an emulation historian, and I do not own and will never again own an Apple device so I cannot comment on the IOS side of things, but my understanding is that Robert B. does what he does in violation of the wishes of the original coders. Frontends are pretty and all but I'd rather have the better emulator than a needlessly user-friendly front end. The Snes9x core in Retorarch is supposed to annihilate Broglia's old Snes9x ripoff for instance, and doesn't rely on frameskipping and speedhacking, it just does the job right, and does so on both Android and IOS. I do agree that making stuff for WebOS is "neat" and all but it's not like he's doing it for free, he's merely looking for another market to do a port job to so he can reap money off other people's labors. If Symbian was still around he'd make a port to that just so he could steal some more. With Retroarch around and becoming ever more refined I think that Robert Broglia is less relevant and less impressive than he has ever, ever been.
And saying that the developers went with a GPLv2 license so that some **** could profiteer off of it... Yeah. Not so much. Many of them regretted that decision once this situation developed, and have changed their license for newer versions. This is why the Robert B Snes emulators are running outdated, inferior versions of Snes9x, because the intelligent, talented people behind Snes9x stopped it by changing the license AFAIK. Also yes there are some other emulator developers that make front ends for other people's cores, but they typically have one or maybe two; they don't have a full panoply of them that they're funding their entire beer budget with.
Again, I could be wrong about alot of that, it's just what I've read from multiple sources - cept the WebOS theory which is just me. You may well know more about the situation than I do and I'd love to learn about it.
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**** or no ****, those developers posted their software with the GPLv2 license, therefore they have little ammunition against this guy as he is operating fully within the law and the license the original developers set out with. If they don't like it then they shouldnt have used that license at the time.
For reference, I dont own any of this guys emulators and likely wont ever own them either. Just pointing out that from a legal stance he has done nothing wrong.
I have almost all of his emulators and appreciate his effort. Without it, we would have lower performing versions and and no Turbografx emu. I could not disagree more as a result.
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I have almost all of his emulators and appreciate his effort. Without it, we would have lower performing versions and and no Turbografx emu. I could not disagree more as a result.
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Retroarch's turbografx/PC Engine core is superior AFAIK, it runs beautifully. The new Snes9x cores in Retroarch blow the speedhacked, coarse old ones (Robert's forks) out of the water. The Picodrive core in Retroarch (Sega master system, Genesis/megadrive/ CD/ 32x) is far superior to Robert's forked, old-code md emulator. Stella core (atari 2600) is faster than Robert's fork, The NGP core runs beautifully in Retroarch I was just using it, there's no reason to be silly and pay 4.99 to do something worse than the version you can get for free.
So pay for something ****ty or get something superior for free. Hm....
It's all old code which was forked and then jury rigged to give a roughly passable experience with lots of errors. And that costs money, mind you. Or you could use Retroarch and other open source stuff and have freshly developed and top of the line open sourced code which offers superior emulation, and pay nothing.
I've heard the guy offers good support if there are issues running the emulators properly on your device, but that's the least you can reasonably expect from someone charging $8 for an MSX emulator.
Retro just recently surfaced, so 20/20 hindsight there. PCE app has been out for about three years. Point is several years of using the apps, thanks to the dev. I have zero problem paying for somebody's effort porting to Android. I appreciate the effort.
The problem with Retroarch is you can not set discrete folders for each emu. I hope the dev does provide the option at some point.
I can't stop playing DS (DraStic) on it. It's runs about 99% of games at full speed. Normally I would NEVER pay for an emulator,i'll usually just find the apk on the net because emus should be free but for 8 bucks I didn't care. So much fun. I wish I could enjoy N64 more but mupen is crap compared to n64oid which i don't believe is being worked on anymore. By crap I mean it runs games decent enough but too many graphical glitches and the inconvenience of always having to change setting depending on the game. N64oid would work but the second analog and triggers arent recognized /:
I'm thinking about buying either an Ouya or a Mojo as an emulator machine but i have a few questions about the MOJO.
To make it simple.... I love the Ouya and it would be perfect for me, i only wish it was a little more powerful... (for more fps on PSP games and San Andreas in high quality etc...)
So can i expect the Ouya on MOJO to run like a real Ouya and even more? Or is it only partially working?
Is there any way to hide the navigation bar when running an app or will there be soon? (maybe a Ouya app update or something?)
What would you guys suggest?
I'm really torn between those 2, some advice would be greatly appreciated!
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I'm thinking about buying either an Ouya or a Mojo as an emulator machine but i have a few questions about the MOJO.
To make it simple.... I love the Ouya and it would be perfect for me, i only wish it was a little more powerful... (for more fps on PSP games and San Andreas in high quality etc...)
So can i expect the Ouya on MOJO to run like a real Ouya and even more? Or is it only partially working?
Is there any way to hide the navigation bar when running an app or will there be soon? (maybe a Ouya app update or something?)
What would you guys suggest?
I'm really torn between those 2, some advice would be greatly appreciated!
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no not all ouya games are in mojo shop towerfall is not in the ouya everywhere shop
well i guess as long as all the emulators on Ouya work.... shouldn't be a problem sideloading any other app
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well i guess as long as all the emulators on Ouya work.... shouldn't be a problem sideloading any other app
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Emulators and media is about all its use full for so ur in luck me man, however I have had massive issues regarding storage space which might restrict how many ROMs u could use. Tbh ur better off getting a reliable tablet and a TV out cable
well a good tablet is expensive and ressources are wasted on battery saving etc....
i'm probably going to get a MOJO, but only if i can get rid of the navigation bar while running an app...
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well a good tablet is expensive and ressources are wasted on battery saving etc....
i'm probably going to get a MOJO, but only if i can get rid of the navigation bar while running an app...
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I think there's apps that removes it after rooting it.. it doesn't bother me so I haven't checked.
Re ouya everywhere, people where saying the frame work crashes, it might have been fixed, I don't like ouya so haven't checked.
well ouya has got some really cool stuff for emulators, like the Nostalgia app regrouping all your emulators etc... and it's nice to change from the stock android, but the specs are really ****ty... anyway, i found some ways to hide the navigation bar and stumbled upon your website where you shared your thoughts about the MOJO while google-ing and it pretty much convinced me to buy one... the ouya won't last long with specs so low
MOJO or Fire TV
Should I buy a Mad Catz MOJO or Fire TV? I'm a android enthusiast and I own an OUYA. The Mad Catz MOJO would be a perfect device for me having all that power inside. Tegra 4 with 2GB of ram sounds impressive for a Micro Console not to mention the nice controller. Now I've noticed the Fire TV is able to install the Play Store which basically solves the problem of not having to buy all of my apps again. Fire TV from what I've seen is pretty powerful, but you don't get all that Tegra goodness. $99 plus controller vs. $199 with controller. We need more Mad Catz MOJO videos on Youtube because there are some more games I want to see running.
well you can install google play store on the MOJO and it's only 150$ now, plus you can install the Ouya App so you get the best of both worlds!
@Energizing, yeah the ouya 16GB compared to the MOJO is a no brainer IMO.
The Amazon fireTV compared to MOJO, could ague either way..
The biggest draw back on the mojo is not having kitkat, which means we're stuck on late 2013 game releases instead of having the newer games like shield1 has.
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Been playing a bit of oldschool OpenArena (ouya apk version), I got GTA 3, just ran out of ideas, I'll do a video or two!
It's been a little more than 14 months since the Ouya was released last year on June 25th, 2014, which is a decent amount of time to let the device mature.
I bought the device with XBMC in mind, with a chance of a little game development if I ever had the time (I haven't had the time, unfortunately). Today, I still use my Ouya almost daily, but it's almost exclusively for XBMC.
As an XBMC box, I am fairly happy with it, although the streaming and overall UI performance of the overall device could be better. I was into emulation early on when I first bought the Ouya, and it played some retro games sufficiently although it wasn't spectacular with performance and bug issues in the emulators. The controller lag on my Ouya has been unbearable at times, but I had a few controllers replaced by Ouya Inc, which alleviates some of the issues.
As far as installing custom firmware and tweaks, I haven't had too much time to research into an effective combination to improve my experience with the device. In fact, I haven't had a chance to research into the cool things I can do with this little box yet.
All in all, I am fairly happy with my Ouya, and I don't regret the purchase at all, but I am curious what the community thinks of the Ouya after being out in the wild for a year.
Do you still use your Ouya? How so? What apps and programs are you running on it? What games do you play on it? What custom firmware do you run on it?
For xbmc it is OK, I upgraded to a chromebox for my main unit. Kids like playing with it. Emulators work decent. It is now in my kids playroom and they mainly watch cartoons on it. Some Mario and king of monsters. No custom software. I wouldn't say I regret it but I probably should of read up more before buying
nice paperweight
When I first got my ouya I tried some games from the Discover section. They were alright but overall I felt I was just paying too much for android games just because this was boasted as a console. I had hoped for controller support for apps like Minecraft PE or Terraria but neither ever came. It sat in my room for several months as a paperweight and a reminder to not be so quick to back things on Kickstarter. Finally I went to update it and then flash a custom rom onto it and the microusb port was shot. I had to get it replaced so they gave me a refurbished Ouya... not a new one, not even an old one with my KS case back, just a plain case. I updated it and honestly haven't done much with it since. I tried setting it up as a chromecast but it didn't work so it's back to being a paperweight and still works to this day when it comes to keeping me from binge-funding on Kickstarter.
Some games I have enjoyed on it are Amazing Frog, Final Fantasy III (even though it's the same graphics as the Nintendo DS... which I have), and a handful of emulators. I would've bought Towerfall if it wasn't the same price as the PC version. Nothing justifies paying $15 for an android app imo
I bought my Ouya a year ago and I never regret it. I use it every day with XBMC. But these days I tried to play some retro games on emulator SFC NES etc. Super Metroid is fun. Honestly,Ouya platform lacks amazing games. Townfall is great but will you pay almost $15 for it? The only app I bought on Ouya is a sleep app that can emulate sounds of sea waves and stream. The steam machine would replace my Ouya in the future. I'd rather pay money for PC games because of the quality and game experience.
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It's been a little more than 14 months since the Ouya was released last year on June 25th, 2014, which is a decent amount of time to let the device mature.
I bought the device with XBMC in mind, with a chance of a little game development if I ever had the time (I haven't had the time, unfortunately). Today, I still use my Ouya almost daily, but it's almost exclusively for XBMC.
As an XBMC box, I am fairly happy with it, although the streaming and overall UI performance of the overall device could be better. I was into emulation early on when I first bought the Ouya, and it played some retro games sufficiently although it wasn't spectacular with performance and bug issues in the emulators. The controller lag on my Ouya has been unbearable at times, but I had a few controllers replaced by Ouya Inc, which alleviates some of the issues.
As far as installing custom firmware and tweaks, I haven't had too much time to research into an effective combination to improve my experience with the device. In fact, I haven't had a chance to research into the cool things I can do with this little box yet.
All in all, I am fairly happy with my Ouya, and I don't regret the purchase at all, but I am curious what the community thinks of the Ouya after being out in the wild for a year.
Do you still use your Ouya? How so? What apps and programs are you running on it? What games do you play on it? What custom firmware do you run on it?
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I painted mine like rubix cube
So yeah its got XBMC on it ... but i dont know maybe throw KK on it if i can try to use it to play some emulators
Buh-bye Ouya...got an Amazon FireTV and never looked back. Dammit, I even paid 20$ to get a Noctua silent fan (the original was driving me nuts). Any takers?
One year later I'm still using my Ouya regularly.
I’ve had my Ouya for over a year and have had a great experience with it. The system was ‘as advertised’ where you get a base system and with research, effort, a “do it yourself attitude”, a little know how, and patience can get something good out of it. It was designed for the casual gamer, designers, and modders. A selective audience, so I wasn’t expecting the instant gratification of a 5 star product with all the bells and whistles or components that weren’t yet released. In the end, the system is as good as YOU make it.
Currently I’m using it as a media center as well as a gaming platform with CM11 being the primary OS with the Ouya Everywhere framework on top (it works!). When I’m not using a hub for keyboard and mouse I keep a micro 64GB Drive for additional storage in the USB port.
Additional Apks for performance and operation tweaking such as Folder Mount, Screen Rotation, RamExpander, Ouya Mod Collection, ES File Explorer, Clean Master, Air Droid, Shutdown Menu 2.1, Tincore Keymapper, and QuickShortcutMaker.
Media includes: XBMC, Crackle, Viewster, CW, Fox Now, CBS, NBC, History, PBS Kids, Watch Disney, UVideos, WatchESPN, Netflix, Hulu Plus, YouTube, FilmOn, Giniko TV, SPB TV, Twitch, AllCast Reciever
Games include (Note: no “tweaking” needed to be done. Just install and enjoy.): SoulCalibur (Android Version), Asphalt 8, Shadowgun, Dead Trigger 2, Dream League Soccer, Skiing Fred, Sonic CD(Amazon), Sonic 4ep I & II, Cordy 2, Tiny Little Racing 2, N.O.V.A.3, EDGE Extended(Amazon), Riptide GP2, ,Zen Pinball, PPSSPP, Neon Shadow(Ouya Store), Tetris Battle Fusion(Ouya Store), Other Emulators(Ouya Store)
Now there were some setbacks where there were some Google/Amazon games that have controller support but I have not yet been able to get to work on Ouya even with CM11. (Respawnables, Shadow Fight 2, Transformers: Age of Extinction, ShadowGun: DeadZone)
Are there better things out there now? Yes. With effort, can this product still be useful for video and gaming? Yes.
Not a gamer, well exceded my expectations for video/server
Very happy with it, played with games a bit but was underwhelmed. To be fair I get bored with current gen consoles too.
I've got CM11 with Kodi (XBMC 14), Netflix, google music, and assorted A/V apps.
Also have sickbeard, nbzget, transmission, and a few other Linux untils installed via optware.
I bought to replace a pogoplug running Arch linux and an older wd frontend device.
Works phenomenally, even plays 10bit mkv without major issue.
To be fair any decent current android stick/STB could likely handle what I need. When bought is was the best performance per dollar.
If buying now I'd get a http://www.solid-run.com/ cubox-1 eSata, 2 usb, gigabit lan.
Probably still run android on the top, linux userland on the bottom.
Controller is hopeless though. Hausbell h7 is good and only $15, just a minor twaek to the .kl file and great
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How much?
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Buh-bye Ouya...got an Amazon FireTV and never looked back. Dammit, I even paid 20$ to get a Noctua silent fan (the original was driving me nuts). Any takers?
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Wouldn't mind another ouya for my camp. How much ya want?
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Wouldn't mind another ouya for my camp. How much ya want?
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Would be too much trouble to ship to US...I am in Canada.
New to OUYA and loving it !
Goal:
To have media center and information KIOSK in Smart Electric Vehicle.
The OUYA is 12 volt and I am using Insignia HDTV also 12 volt.
Next step is to check power quality of DC to DC (12v) converter in car.
OUYA rumored to be at risk on noisy power in ICE vehicle.
Samsung Tab 2 on Verizon will be HOT Spot with Beagle Bone Black as Web Server.
Also installed XDA One with limited use due to navigation hassles.
I'm considering buying one soon
Was fun to tinker with, but gets no use now
The ouya was a cool idea that never really paid out. I bought mine last xmas, downloaded xbmc, rooted it and played a few ps1 games on an emulator and never used it again. It never receieved the support it deserved and was forgotten mostly because of that. I still check in on these forums time to time just to check if anyone has completed any useful custom roms, but no luck yet(still waiting on that Android TV port). I have a chromecast, netflix and a macbook so XBMC feels pretty bad to me tbh. Everytime I want to use XBMC it has to update all the addons, then half the time the primewire app doesn't even work, and I'll have to try project free TV(which only works about half the time as well). So netflix or streaming off my macbook via chromecast is almost always the better option. I would like to see some more life in my ouya again, but just about all my other devices function better. An Android gaming system is a very cool concept, it sucks that the execution was so poor/supporting apps are so few.
Disappointed...
The device has potential but or the lack of software or the fact that are cheap Android Sticks out there that can do almost the same makes me feel disappointed...
Have one and i only use it for XBMC/Kodi, but my Raspberry Pi is able to handle that too so...
Bought it like many others as the best hardware for the price at the time. Primarily for XBMC with the potential for Android Apks to unleash further potential
Probably wish I had gone with Amazon Fire TV in hindsight.
It now sits gathering dust - Chromecast is used for all the kids stuff - cartoons etc
And I have an AMlogic Minix X8H for XBMC/SPMC - which I like and may look to install alternative ROMs etc.
It's nice. I can't say I love it, but I don't hate it, either. I had some fun with three or four games, and I sometimes emulate something on it. I wouldn't recommend it to anybody, but I don't regret buying it.
The Ouya is a good dust-collector now.
The fan is too loud for using it as TV Multimedia player. The lags are too big for using it as SNES-Emulator. There is still no easy-to-install Linux port, since the community wasn't interested in the Ouya.
So all in all it is a big fail. But the controllers are good, I use them when I emulate SNES in Windows now (where it works fine and without lags).
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It's nice. I can't say I love it, but I don't hate it, either. I had some fun with three or four games, and I sometimes emulate something on it. I wouldn't recommend it to anybody, but I don't regret buying it.
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Nicely said. Never understood why they did not include Netflix, Hulu, Amazon? This made it so I had to shut off my Ouya and use another box for these apps or sideload them (much cleaner on Fire or android tv anyway). The lack of leadership in the public eye has really hurt them?Have heard next to nothing from Julie in a good while? Then there is the outdated chipset to me putting the old model back in stock would not be a good business move for Ouya just my opinion. I have had issues with there forum very poor additude!