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Well I got my Play and got Eternal Legacy, which I beat today [Graphics were great, story was terrible, was also too short and lastly the ending was disappointing, or better yet - Non Existent].
So, now I need a new turned based RPG. I have noticed that all the good RPGs [and games generally] are on the Iphone with no android ports.
Can anyone suggest a good turn based RPG. Please don't say emulators, because the PlayStation emulators still can't get the games to run smoothly anyway. It's hard to go back to PlayStation graphics after playing Eternal Legacy.
Someone suggested Golden Sun 2 for Gamboid, however, I tied it and the sound is choppy [just like FPse] and it always restarts after the long text intro right when the characters appear on the screen for the first time.
Final fantasy 7 works great for me on fpse. Best RPG ever
I knew someone was going to come on here and say that..Final Fantasy 7 does not work properly on the Play, that's why there is a bounty on cracking the code of native psx emulator on the Play so that games can be played using it. Final Fantasy 7 on FPse is a miserable experience in terms of audio and it slows down a bit, far from "great." And like I said, after playing Eternal Legacy, or just generally speaking, it's hard to go back to PlayStation 1 graphics. Playstation 2 Fine, 1...nononono....
If you don't want to rely on emulation, Symphony of the Eternity looks like a valid starting point, though it's not optimized for the gamepad. However, good stories are hard to find anywhere, and sometimes a further problem lies on bad translations (Zenonia's case).
Forget those games get fpse and a rom called chrono cross.
If you own the game in the past of course.
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Yeah I would def play Chrono Cross, it got a very good review from IGN and I loved Chrono Trigger, once again it's just that FPse has not been able to run ANY game smoothly [ie without sound or graphics problems] so I am a bit reluctant... As for Symphony of the Eternity, I guess I could try that, though it's hard to go back to those sort of graphics after just completing Eternal Legacy.
Oh by the way symphony of the eterinty is optimized for the play, i was just playing it. It controls with the plays directional arrows etc.
jdz...I know fpse isn't perfect, but the three games I play right now (Nectaris: Military Madness...which is an AWESOME turn-based strategy game, Castlevania:Symphony of the Night, and Destruction Derby) all run flawlessly or next to flawlessly so there are some that are there or really close to perfect. I highly recommend Nectaris if you're a fan of the genre. Playstation graphics obviously but if you can get past that you'll love the gameplay.
thanks for the reply/advice, will check them out.
I can't find Eternal Legacy on the android market, am I missing something?
jdz7t8 said:
I knew someone was going to come on here and say that..Final Fantasy 7 does not work properly on the Play, that's why there is a bounty on cracking the code of native psx emulator on the Play so that games can be played using it. Final Fantasy 7 on FPse is a miserable experience in terms of audio and it slows down a bit, far from "great." And like I said, after playing Eternal Legacy, or just generally speaking, it's hard to go back to PlayStation 1 graphics. Playstation 2 Fine, 1...nononono....
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There's no slowdowns at all, only slight oddities in the sound, no where near unplayable.
Honestly it's hard to find good new rpg's on any platform.
jdz7t8 said:
I knew someone was going to come on here and say that..Final Fantasy 7 does not work properly on the Play, that's why there is a bounty on cracking the code of native psx emulator on the Play so that games can be played using it. Final Fantasy 7 on FPse is a miserable experience in terms of audio and it slows down a bit, far from "great." And like I said, after playing Eternal Legacy, or just generally speaking, it's hard to go back to PlayStation 1 graphics. Playstation 2 Fine, 1...nononono....
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You have done somthing wrong to your play then m8 FF7 8 and 9 all run perfect for me with no slowdowm and perfect sound, i let my brother run around coral for a bit in FF7 and his responce was "wow this runs better than it did on the playstation"
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It's not "optimized" for the Xperia Play so you have to download a version from gamelofts website thats made for the snapdragon processors.
Two words: Spectral Souls
It got everything, story, graphics, xperia optimized... etc
IGN gave spectral Souls a bad review:
http://psp.ign.com/articles/742/742395p1.html
It turns out that the bad score was given mainly due to the long and frequent loading moments. If that is not an issue on Android, and it doesn't have to be if they did a good job, then it may make sense. But, man, 10 euro for a ported-to-phone game... it's hard to justify.
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IGN gave spectral Souls a bad review:
http://psp.ign.com/articles/742/742395p1.html
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If you read the review they gave it a lower score because of loading issues, which is no longer an issue in the Android version.
The game is pretty good all around. Not spectacular, but still good.
Video of it running on Xperia Play
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQPUyzd63w0
Holy crap, that's some good music actually! It's getting better and better. Maybe I'll try and give it a try. How much space does it take?
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Holy crap, that's some good music actually! It's getting better and better. Maybe I'll try and give it a try. How much space does it take?
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On your phone it takes 5.77MB and downloads a gig worth of data to your SD card.
If you are a fan of that style of game play (final fantasy tactics, disgaea) then this game will be right up your alley.
Story-wise so far for me it has been average, not as good as FFT, but it's decent enough. It provides a way to play both sides of the storyline, so that adds to the overall enjoyment.
I didn't mind paying 1200 yen for this game. It shows it has a lot more production value than the average mobile game.
What really surprises me is that Android doesnt havent more quality RPGS, I mean mobile devices should be a haven for turned based RPGs because they are actually easy to control with the touch screen. Why is it that more big "well known" RPGs are not on android? Why for example is their a Final Fantasy game on Android? It's on 360 and PS3, so it's not to say that it's an exclusive title to one of the consoles. Come on, esp for a device like the Xperia Play, Sony should be well aware that this device could be the RPG gamers dream come true.
Unlike the Arc in the UK the Play seems to have experienced a sharp drop in price, it's not hard to find a SIM free version for sub £300. The only reason I can think for this is poor sales. Would I be right in that assumption?
Support from SE Is very weak, the playstation store for games hasn't being available for every country and the selection is pee.
FPSE are not user friendly is another reason. I guess 3rd party devs aren't interested in porting games like ff, tekkens, mgs, etc
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I bought my play when it first came out for £300 so it's not that much of a price drop
Problem with the play is, its a niche device, it only appeals to hardcore gamers......
But as a device i cant really fault it, its fast, looks good, plays games great even though many would say it lacks power, the gps is amazing......
Think of it like the sega dreamcast a bit of an underated gem
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Support from SE Is very weak, the playstation store for games hasn't being available for every country and the selection is pee.
FPSE are not user friendly is another reason. I guess 3rd party devs aren't interested in porting games like ff, tekkens, mgs, etc
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The playstation store hasnt gone live yet thats why it's not availible in all countries It's still in beta
FPse works awsome on the play wth
Cat_On_Droid said:
Support from SE Is very weak, the playstation store for games hasn't being available for every country and the selection is pee.
FPSE are not user friendly is another reason. I guess 3rd party devs aren't interested in porting games like ff, tekkens, mgs, etc
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I dunno if I'd say support has been weak seeing as they secured the three biggest titles exclusively for it: minecraft, Fifa and Dead space.
Wait for pan support and then you'll see what It was meant to be.
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The price has dropped significantly here in the US as well. Sony really bungled this one. The device just recently started to be advertised (and that was after the price drop and moreso as a "cheap" phone since its only 99 bucks) and even supporters like myself are a bit frustrated because there really is no support by SE here, while there have been 9 or 10 playstation game releases in Europe, some are not available at all, and the rest are visible in the market but carrier locked for some strange reason. The Playstation suite is not available yet as well.
Maybe they are waiting to market it once the Suite is ready so theres a lot of features and games up for sale, but at that point the device will be almost dead.
AndroHero said:
The playstation store hasnt gone live yet thats why it's not availible in all countries It's still in beta
FPse works awsome on the play wth
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But an average bob who wants to play tekken , Spyro, gt WILL finding it confusing on how to use emulators. It's not as user friendly as playstation pocket, where customers browse et buy
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Think of it like the sega dreamcast a bit of an underated gem
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You can say that again.
The Xperia PLAY not only stopped me from caring about dual-cores, but it's performance has left so little to be desired that I finally get to re-imagine my iPhone favorites as real games with real controls, and have a device so versatile that I didn't just replace my phone, I haven't been playing my PSP/DS as much :\
TLRtheory said:
You can say that again.
The Xperia PLAY not only stopped me from caring about dual-cores, but it's performance has left so little to be desired that I finally get to re-imagine my iPhone favorites as real games with real controls, and have a device so versatile that I didn't just replace my phone, I haven't been playing my PSP/DS as much :\
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PSP................... Oh s**t i majorly forgot i had one of those . I totally agree, i only really game on my Xplay, Xbox or Ps3 now. The play may not be a dedicated gaming device but it scratches the itch i get when im out and about. It fast enough to play anything i want it to. Enough said.
@ Cat_On_Droid. Anyone who doesnt know how to use it (fpse) will normally search for info on how to. Googling Fpse guides brings up more than enough info on how to use/set up. If you can use a normal emulator like Gameboid etc. Then using FPSE is not much harder.
Oh and i also frickin loved the dreamcast
I actually think that it is picking up on sales now. I know a lot of people who are planning on buying and seeing an increase of people on forums doing the same.
I think for the US market it really got hit hard because Verizon held back the update so long and also didn't allow any unlocking.
Once AT&T launches it's 3G version I am sure it will take off in the US market as well as being able to hook up to some form of the PSN with the 2.3.4 update.
Not sure about the UK but the price itself put off a lot of people.
In my country I could buy 2 PS3's for the price of one Xperia Play... this should not be the case with a phone that plays games that are 2Gens behind the current PS.
If they had priced it cheaper in the first place it would have sold faster.
I have seen this commercial on TV twice now
GAMEPAAAAAAD! ....what a tool
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Mozza2k11 said:
PSP................... Oh s**t i majorly forgot i had one of those . I totally agree, i only really game on my Xplay, Xbox or Ps3 now. The play may not be a dedicated gaming device but it scratches the itch i get when im out and about. It fast enough to play anything i want it to. Enough said.
@ Cat_On_Droid. Anyone who doesnt know how to use it (fpse) will normally search for info on how to. Googling Fpse guides brings up more than enough info on how to use/set up. If you can use a normal emulator like Gameboid etc. Then using FPSE is not much harder.
Obh and i also frickin loved the dreamcast
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First, you gotta pay for FPSE, that does turn off the customers abit (I understand why anyhow), second, PS pocket is advertised well, not FPSE. So people Will think that pspocket is the only means of playing ps games for those without basic knowledge of emulators, roms(u have to burn the disk aswell, which isn't user friendly again)
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First, you gotta pay for FPSE, that does turn off the customers abit (I understand why anyhow), second, PS pocket is advertised well, not FPSE. So people Will think that pspocket is the only means of playing ps games for those without basic knowledge of emulators, roms(u have to burn the disk aswell, which isn't user friendly again)
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You have to pay for PS Suite games too FPse i like any other market app, and unless you have been living in a cave you will know about FPse or its windows mobile brother FpseCE
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First, you gotta pay for FPSE, that does turn off the customers abit (I understand why anyhow), second, PS pocket is advertised well, not FPSE. So people Will think that pspocket is the only means of playing ps games for those without basic knowledge of emulators, roms(u have to burn the disk aswell, which isn't user friendly again)
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THIS.
Emulators aren't going to sell phones in major quantities and only serve to deepen the niche. The iPhone sells so well because any idiot can do basically anything it can do without much time or brain power investment.
The only way the Xplay and any successors will break out is if there is a "killer app" and an easy way to do it. PS Suite being on the phone from the factory making it easy to download a large library of classic games, and connect to your Playstation etc is the only way a phone like this would be successful. People like us who tinker around with it and take the time to learn how to do things are in the vast minority.
Lets just hope that by the time PS Suite is ready its not already too late.
They have also way over priced the PS1 games. Like games that are over 10 years old with ****ty graphics are more expensive than newer games with amazing graphics and great game play.
Sony PS would make a fortune if they sold the games at $1 a pop.. maybe $2 or maybe $1 per disc
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You have to pay for PS Suite games too FPse i like any other market app, and unless you have been living in a cave you will know about FPse or its windows mobile brother FpseCE
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You do. But trust me people would rather spend 10bux on FFIX than buying fpse, getting the 4 disks to burn, use ecm tools, drag to SD, etc. You can buy PSONE game at any time. Where as using emu requires a PC. Oh and if PS suite gets a good selection the emulation would be perfect, unlike fpse which Requires slot of updates. And don't you need to pay again to update? Not sure =\
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They have also way over priced the PS1 games. Like games that are over 10 years old with ****ty graphics are more expensive than newer games with amazing graphics and great game play.
Sony PS would make a fortune if they sold the games at $1 a pop.. maybe $2 or maybe $1 per disc
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Psx games are almost always more in depth than any android game. But they still should be cheaper at like 1.99 each like you said. Gameloft games with ripped off ideas and bad gameplay with graphics that are good doesn't make a good game.
The Xperia Play needed the following changes -
1) Landscape Home Screen Support
2) Auto Brightness Dsiable Option
3) PsP emulator
4) PS1 and PSP amazing games to be available at launch rather than the shoddies
5) Alot more Xperia Play exclusives
6) Analog touchpads to have the option to "swipe" or "hold" on ALL games
7) Touchscreen Emulator Software so you could assign buttons to parts of the screen (meaning you can play all games on the pad and buttons)
8) Touchscreen functionality on the analog touchpad (so you can scroll with the analog pad when browsing etc)
9) Dual Core processor
10) 1 gig RAM
11) Possibly a 4.3 inch screen
12) Better Signal (Data strength is not as good as other phones)
13) FM Radio (data Radio is useless on a limited data allowance plan)
14) 720p Video Recording enabled
If the Play had all this, (which are not unreasonable requests for the same price tag), it would of been so much more successful.
Basically the XPlay is just a like an HTC Desire, but with a smaller screen that is often dimmer and a control pad.
It is nothing more than a bog standard Android phone that is great for playing a few emulated games.
If you do not want it for emulation, then get a Samsung Galaxy S2.
dsswoosh said:
The Xperia Play needed the following changes -
1) Landscape Home Screen Support
2) Auto Brightness Dsiable Option
3) PsP emulator
4) PS1 and PSP amazing games to be available at launch rather than the shoddies
5) Alot more Xperia Play exclusives
6) Analog touchpads to have the option to "swipe" or "hold" on ALL games
7) Touchscreen Emulator Software so you could assign buttons to parts of the screen (meaning you can play all games on the pad and buttons)
8) Touchscreen functionality on the analog touchpad (so you can scroll with the analog pad when browsing etc)
9) Dual Core processor
10) 1 gig RAM
11) Possibly a 4.3 inch screen
12) Better Signal (Data strength is not as good as other phones)
13) FM Radio (data Radio is useless on a limited data allowance plan)
14) 720p Video Recording enabled
If the Play had all this, (which are not unreasonable requests for the same price tag), it would of been so much more successful.
Basically the XPlay is just a like an HTC Desire, but with a smaller screen that is often dimmer and a control pad.
It is nothing more than a bog standard Android phone that is great for playing a few emulated games.
If you do not want it for emulation, then get a Samsung Galaxy S2.
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you know how expensive that would be @[email protected] ? anyways the phone costs 100dollarz so dont expect any of those
Those things are much better on to be on the Xperia Arc.
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you know how expensive that would be @[email protected] ?
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Less than the Samsung Galaxy S2, since that has better than the specs i mentioned and still doesn't cost more than a XPlay on contract.
XPlay was way overpriced for the specs you get.
It was hardware outdated before it even hit retail.
Ultimate emulator guide
Here is a guide of all the best emulators for android and the pro's and con's of each one. Please tell me if there are more you would like me to add to the list.
(this guide is made specifically for the xperia play) I will add more emulators over time hope this is helpful.
(Not all the emulators in this list are written by me, the ones that aren't have the users name who wrote them underneath.)
Key:
Emulators with a blue asterisk by the name (like this *) have xperia play touchpad support.
Emulators with a red asterisk by the name (like this *) Are open source. (Open source emulators have the possibility of having touch pad support implemented.)
PS1 emulators:
Fpse
Pros: Fast, great compatibility, filtering options.
Cons: Costs, no touchpad support.
Link: https://market.android.com/details?id=com.emulator.fpse&hl=en
PSXperia *
Pros: Fast, renders games at a higher resolution, good compatibility with software rendering enabled (disables high res), touchpad support, Free.
Cons: Complicated to use, doesn't work on android 2.3.4+.
Link: https://github.com/yifanlu/PSXperia/archives/master
Tiger PSOne
Pros: Free, can download games within the emulator.
Cons: doesnt work on the xperia play.
Link: http://apps.tigerplay.net/
psx4droid
Pros: Free.
Cons: doesnt work on the xperia play.
Link: http://www.zodttd.com/wp/2011/04/psx4droid-updated-to-3-0-5/
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N64 Emulators:
N64oid
Pros: Fast, accurate emulation, ability to fast forward.
Cons: Costs, No touchpad support.
Link: http://slideme.org/application/n64oid
Mupen64plus-ae **
Pros: Touchpad support, great game compatibility, ability to fast forward and slowdown games, Free.
Cons: Needs overclock for more demanding games, a few games have graphical glitches.
Comment: This emulator is still in early development but because it has touchpad support I think its a good idea to add it to the list.
Link: http://www.paulscode.com/forum/index.php?topic=96.0
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Sega Megadrive emulators (genesis):
Gensoid
Pros: Fast emulation, netplay, free.
Cons: Has some graphical glitches even in popular games like sonic.
Link: https://slideme.org/application/gensoid
MD.emu
Pros: Fast emulation, almost no graphical glitches, built in support for things like wiimote and icontrolpad.
Cons: costs, no netplay support.
Comment: Planned sega CD support.
Link: https://market.android.com/details?id=com.explusalpha.MdEmu
GenplusDroid*
Pros: almost no graphical glitches, free, shader support, ability to rewind gameplay.
Cons: Can be slower than other alternatives (needs at least 1ghz to run smoothly), no netplay support, audio pitch isn't correct in some games.
Link: https://market.android.com/details?id=ca.halsafar.genesisdroid
Tiger Genesis
Pros: Fast emulation, shows previews for your save states, can download games within the emulator, free.
Cons: Has some graphical glitches even in popular games like sonic, ad supported.
Link: http://apps.tigerplay.net
Genesis A.D.
Not tested yet
Link: https://market.android.com/details?id=com.bslapps.gens
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GBA emulators:
Gameboid
Pros: fast, compatible, free.
Cons: Audio can be slightly off with some games.
Link: http://slideme.org/application/gameboid
Tiger GBA
Pros: fast, compatible, free, shows previews for your save states, can download games within the emulator.
Cons: Audio can be slightly off with some games, ad supported.
Link: http://apps.tigerplay.net/
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GBC emulators:
Gameboid
Pros: Fast, free, works on versions of android as low as 1.5.
Cons: Havent spotted any (please point them out if you find them).
Link: http://slideme.org/application/gbcoid
GBC.emu
Pros: Fast, great UI, has built in support for things like wiimotes and icontrolpad.
Cons: Costs.
Link: https://market.android.com/details?id=com.explusalpha.GbcEmu
GambatteDroid*
Pros: Fast, Supports shaders.
Cons: Costs, sometimes has audio issues.
Link: https://market.android.com/details?id=ca.halsafar.gambattedroid
Tiger GBC
Pros: Fast, free, shows previews for your save states, can download games within the emulator.
Cons: ad supported.
Link: http://apps.tigerplay.net/
Gameboy Color A.D.
Pros: Fast, works on versions of android as low as 1.5, has an achievements system, free.
Cons: Havent spotted any (please point them out if you find them).
Link: https://market.android.com/details?id=com.bslapps.gbc&feature=search_result
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SNES emulators:
Snesoid
Pros: Fast emulation, netplay, free.
Cons: Has slowdown with some games when enabling the C core option(needed to play some games).
Link: https://slideme.org/application/snesoid
Snes9xEx
Pros: Fast emulation, Can play most games without switching to a slower core, free, has built in support for things like wiimotes and icontrolpad.
Cons: No netplay support.
Link: http://www.explusalpha.com/home/snes9x-ex
SNESDroid*
Pros: free, shader support.
Cons: Can be slower than other alternatives (needs at least 1ghz to run smoothly), no netplay support.
Comment: Not tested yet, only got these facts from the market page.
Link: https://market.android.com/details?id=ca.halsafar.snesdroid&hl=en
SNES A.D.
Not tested yet
Link: https://market.android.com/details?id=com.bslapps.snes
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NES emulators:
Nesoid
Pros: Fast, free, netplay support, works on versions of android as low as 1.5.
Cons: Havent spotted any (please point them out if you find them).
Link: http://slideme.org/application/nesoid
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Sega Saturn emulators:
Yabuase-AE*
Pros: Only sega saturn emulator, open source.
Cons: Very very very slow.
Link: http://www.paulscode.com/forum/index.php?topic=200.0
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Other Emulators:
Mame4Droid*
Pros: fast emulation, games supported by original MAME 0.37b5.
Cons: no save states.
Link: where to get it : https://market.android.com/details?id=com.seleuco.mame4all&hl=en
SToid
Pros: Has so far played just about every ST game I've loaded with no glitches. Easy to set up.
Cons: You'll need a soft keyboard complete with an esc key, function keys etc to emulate the ST keyboard for some games no big deal, Save/Load button could be laid out better.
Comments: Well worth the £1.44 if you dig ST games and that unforgettable sound.
Link: https://market.android.com/details?id=com.emulator.stoid
*written by Deu5Vult*
Ataroid
Pros: Free, fast emulation, games supported all Atari 2600
Cons: Havent spotted any (Does lack of old school joystick count?)
Link: where to get it : http://slideme.org/application/ataroid
*written by persain*
ColEm - Colecovision Emulator
Pros: Good game support, saves state on exit and you can restart from where you were next time.
Cons: The ad version is annoying, but there is a paid version available
Link: https://market.android.com/details?id=com.fms.colem&hl=en
*written by gbesta*
fMSX - MSX Emulator
Pros: MSX, MSX2 and MSX2+ emulation
Cons: None so far
Link: https://market.android.com/details?id=com.fms.fmsx.deluxe
*written by gbesta*
PCE.emu - PCEngine emulator
Pros: Just works. Saves position on exit. No slowdown or audio glitches on my xperia play.
Cons: None so far
Link: https://market.android.com/details?id=com.PceEmu&hl=en
*written by gbesta*
ScummVM*
Pros: Smooth emulation, save states, free.
Cons: Right clicking is tricky, but it's rarely needed.
Link: https://market.android.com/details?id=org.scummvm.scummvm
*written by juxtapose519*
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Unreleased or Discontinued emulators:
NullDCe (Dreamcast emulator)
Pros: appears to run full speed on a galaxy S 2.
Cons: no public release.
Comment: appears to be in development but no word from the dev for a long time.
Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-dm2lMJnSI&feature=channel_video_title
n64droid (N64 emulator)
Pros: none
Cons: none
Comment: was in development by zodttd but was never released.
Link: none
TigerNDS (DS emulator)
Pros: none.
Cons: very very slow, no sound.
Comments: Discontinued.
Link: http://apps.tigerplay.net/
nds4droid (DS emulator)
Pros: none.
Cons: very very slow, no sound.
Comments: Discontinued.
Link: none.
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FAQ:
What is netplay?
Netplay lets you play multiplayer with a friend who is on another android device via either bluetooth or wifi.
What are shaders?
Shaders are filters that go on top of the gameplay to try change or improve the graphic quality, there are tonnes of shaders to choose from so if you dont like one you can always find another somewhere online. Its also important to note that some shaders can slow down emulation.
Can I help with this guide?
Sure! Just add you emulator of choice in the comments and fill it out using the template below (remember to remove the bits in the brackets!). I will add any emulators filled out in this format to the op.
(Emulator name)
Pros: (whats great about it)
Cons: (any downsides)
Comments: (this is optional)
Link: (where to get it)
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If I miss any emulators please point them out, clones dont count.
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Just want to add a bit about the SNES emulators...we wary of any that you need to pay for. Some of them use Snes9X as their base and the license agreement for Snes9X says it needs to be distributed for free.
Snes9X EX is the one to use, and I believe is the only one that licneses Snes9X properly.. For some reason it's been removed from the market but you can find it by googling. A good advantage is that you don't need to map the XPlay's buttons manually, it's already done for you, which is nice. Great compatibility, emulates most games perfectly though I have noticed some stutters and occasional slowdown in A Link to the Past. Donkey Kong Country also runs noticeably faster than in should, and I haven't found a way to slow it back down to normal speed yet.
Snes AD is also pretty good. Free on the market. I'm not sure what it's based on though. Also great compatibility. Doesn't have the problem with DKC running too quickly. Some logo screens don't work properly. You'll need to map the buttons yourself.
Thanks for the info
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Just want to add a bit about the SNES emulators...we wary of any that you need to pay for. Some of them use Snes9X as their base and the license agreement for Snes9X says it needs to be distributed for free.
Snes9X EX is the one to use, and I believe is the only one that licneses Snes9X properly.. For some reason it's been removed from the market but you can find it by googling. A good advantage is that you don't need to map the XPlay's buttons manually, it's already done for you, which is nice. Great compatibility, emulates most games perfectly though I have noticed some stutters and occasional slowdown in A Link to the Past. Donkey Kong Country also runs noticeably faster than in should, and I haven't found a way to slow it back down to normal speed yet.
Snes AD is also pretty good. Free on the market. I'm not sure what it's based on though. Also great compatibility. Doesn't have the problem with DKC running too quickly. Some logo screens don't work properly. You'll need to map the buttons yourself.
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Yep im pretty aware of the fakes, most of them are just rip offs of snesoid.
When I do a write up about the snes emulators I will put up snesoid, snes ad, snes9xEX and snesdroid since its the only snes emulator for android that supports shaders.
What's the advantage to supporting shaders? I thought they were a 3d thing.
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What's the advantage to supporting shaders? I thought they were a 3d thing.
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Think of them as a filter that goes on top of the game that can do things like smooth out the graphics a bit so it doesn't look as pixely or anti-aliasing shaders so objects dont have jagged edges. They basically try to make the old games look better.
One of my fave shaders for PC emulators is the cartoon shaders for epsxe. They make PS1 games look cel-shaded.
Vid of crash bandicoot with cartoon shaders
awesome post, i've booked marked this one to keep tabs on all the emulators! thumbs up!
Search the Android Market & SlideMe, there are more GBA emulators than just one...
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Search the Android Market & SlideMe, there are more GBA emulators than just one...
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They are all clones of gameboid, but please do post here if you find any that are not clones.
Edit: did find some legitimate ones that were not gameboid clones but they were all pretty terrible. No real advantages over gameboid.
Most of the emulators I post here have some sort of advantage over each other.
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They are all clones of gameboid, but please do post here if you find any that are not clones.
Edit: did find some legitimate ones that were not gameboid clones but they were all pretty terrible. No real advantages over gameboid.
Most of the emulators I post here have some sort of advantage over each other.
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I did notice that similarity with many of them. Thanks for the list by the way.
White_Pointer said:
Just want to add a bit about the SNES emulators...we wary of any that you need to pay for. Some of them use Snes9X as their base and the license agreement for Snes9X says it needs to be distributed for free.
Snes9X EX is the one to use, and I believe is the only one that licneses Snes9X properly.. For some reason it's been removed from the market but you can find it by googling. A good advantage is that you don't need to map the XPlay's buttons manually, it's already done for you, which is nice. Great compatibility, emulates most games perfectly though I have noticed some stutters and occasional slowdown in A Link to the Past. Donkey Kong Country also runs noticeably faster than in should, and I haven't found a way to slow it back down to normal speed yet.
Snes AD is also pretty good. Free on the market. I'm not sure what it's based on though. Also great compatibility. Doesn't have the problem with DKC running too quickly. Some logo screens don't work properly. You'll need to map the buttons yourself.
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Can we not start with this stupid argument again please, snes9x is open source and covered by the GPL. Under the GPL rules there is nothing wrong with people using the source, making there own emulator and charging.
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Very useful thread would be a good idea to sticky this thread maybe
I updated the OP, If somebody has used the emulators that say "not tested yet" please post how they perform here plus any advantaged/disadvantages they have over other alternatives.
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Very useful thread would be a good idea to sticky this thread maybe
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Haha that would be pretty cool
I dont mind if its stickied but it might be better to wait until I finish it first.
Very useful info mate. Nice one. Am shocked about nulldce, looked very interesting.
Seeing as there are obviously people on here that know about the emus has anyone had king of fighters 2003 working. If so please could you tel me what emu, version, bios and where you got the Rom. Everyone I've tried has failed.
Cheers
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bios and where you got the Rom. Cheers
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Please don't ask for warez or where you can download them, It's forbidden in the rules, the only roms you can legally use are ones ripped from your own owned games, the same goes for bios's
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Very useful info mate. Nice one. Am shocked about nulldce, looked very interesting.
Seeing as there are obviously people on here that know about the emus has anyone had king of fighters 2003 working. If so please could you tel me what emu, version, bios and where you got the Rom. Everyone I've tried has failed.
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Yep what Androhero said, you cant ask for roms or bios. Im sure somebody could tell you what emu you need though.
I googled the game and it appears to be for the neo geo and arcades. so you either need a neogeo emulator (I could only find neo geo pocket) or a mame emulator. Ive never played the neo geo or any arcade games so I dont really know what would be the best emulators to use sorry.
Also I really hope NullDCe gets released at some point but by looking at the devs track record that might never happen, he ported his emulator to multiple other consoles including the psp but he never publicly released them.
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Yep what Androhero said, you cant ask for roms or bios. Im sure somebody could tell you what emu you need though.
I googled the game and it appears to be for the neo geo and arcades. so you either need a neogeo emulator (I could only find neo geo pocket) or a mame emulator. Ive never played the neo geo or any arcade games so I dont really know what would be the best emulators to use sorry.
Also I really hope NullDCe gets released at some point but by looking at the devs track record that might never happen, he ported his emulator to multiple other consoles including the psp but he never publicly released them.
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Afaik Android Arcade also plays Neo Geo roms
http://g-arcade.appspot.com/
Btw guys if you want to contribute to this thread Please post an emulator in the current format and I will add it to the OP.
Emulator name
Pros: whats great about it
Cons: any downsides
Comments: this is optional
Link: where to get it
Has anyone else thought of emulators on the ouya? Playing retro games on the big screen again would be great. Personally this is one of the biggest reasons I'm excited for the console. Can't wait to play ocarina of time.
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Has anyone else thought of emulators on the ouya? Playing retro games on the big screen again would be great. Personally this is one of the biggest reasons I'm excited for the console. Can't wait to play ocarina of time.
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I've bought/pre ordered the ouya primarily for xbmc, but being able to pay some classics like shadow run and legend of Zelda, whilst lying in bed on a Sunday morning is massively appealing.
It's starting to feel like Christmas with the release just around the corner and I'm looking forward to seeing what the devs around here do when they get their mucky paws on it.
cooool
No, I prefer something like the Xperia Play for emulators, though its a bit out dated in term of performance. But the Ouya should do emulators really well too. I'm mainly getting the Ouya to use as an HTPC.
ditto.
I backed OUYA mainly for XBMC but the fact that I can run emulations is a bonus. imaging DosBox with all the old school Sierra games, on the big screen.
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God i totally love the idea of using emulators on this it's another reason i purchased it. On my phone gs2 i use the playstation emulators gameboy eveyrthing now to be able to do it on a tv.... man im excited
Search YouTube. Tons of videos of devs using side loaded emulators to play old school games on the Ouya. It's reality, folks.
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ditto.
I backed OUYA mainly for XBMC but the fact that I can run emulations is a bonus. imaging DosBox with all the old school Sierra games, on the big screen.
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Betrayal at Krondor
Honestly, there's not really more "possibility" with emulation on the Ouya than there is on any other somewhat recent Android device.
There is one bad thing. The focus Ouya team are now placing on emulators could result in unneeded focus on the subject and gaming company retained lawyers could be out for money. Kind of like when MP3 started getting popular and you had a lot of one hit wonders trying to sue for a back catalogue that nobody even bought when they were new. Saturday Night Live had a funny skit about that.
Ouya had better be careful, since they are pushing it as a feature, which will be like a bleeding cut in the water to lawyers.
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I am serious. Usually I am that much.
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There is one bad thing. The focus Ouya team are now placing on emulators could result in unneeded focus on the subject and gaming company retained lawyers could be out for money. Kind of like when MP3 started getting popular and you had a lot of one hit wonders trying to sue for a back catalogue that nobody even bought when they were new. Saturday Night Live had a funny skit about that.
Ouya had better be careful, since they are pushing it as a feature, which will be like a bleeding cut in the water to lawyers.
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I dunno about having to worry that much about emulation and the legalities for the OUYA. Heck, google play sells emulators that can be used on any android device. the ouya is that itself.. just another android device. emulation isn't illegal..
The emulation is not illegal, only the BIOS and the Games which are downloaded
are more or less illegal. These would have to be copied from your own console with
special equipment... nobody does this in the time of internet.
Theoretically this things could be free to download if the copyright owner allows this.
There is also my idea, that Nintendo and others aren't interested in forbidding emulation
for some (not every) console and that's why they aren't fighting against emulation.
In Ouya you can download and install anything... So, doesn't matter if it's legal or not...
Has anyone tested the Interworks Controller Pro U (aka Retro Classic Controller) with the Ouya (or any Android device)? I'm especially interested in joystick functionality...
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I've sideloaded SNES9X emu, works good. Started playing chrono trigger, it nice it has an option to let joystick function as dpad.
I'm about to see n64oids performance on the ouya. If it does run smoothly then I guess I will be replaying Zelda oot
I personally prefer mupen64. Ouya is plenty powerful enough for it anyway
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Emulators, I hadn't even thought of that, now I'm really excited about the Ouya, mine should be arriving very soon... I think some companies turn a blind eye to very old emulated games because it keeps their IP popular, which for some franchises still has some value.
For now, i managed to work gba, nes, snes, genesis, psx and n64 emulators via sideloading and all worked smooth with posibility of assign hardware pad buttons to them
There are 3 emulators in the OUYA store.
1. EMUya for NES emulation with intergrated ROM store (I'm sure this won't go forever, pretty much illegal).
2. Mugen64 is an N64 emulator which works better than any N64 I tested before, plus it's already mapped to work with the OUYA controller and does so flawlessly. No lag whatsoever
3. 2 different SNES emulators which also work very good. One of them is already altered to work perfect with the OUYA the other one is a known one from the play store.
I got the ouya especially for emulation, because hooking up my Galaxy S3 via HDMI to the TV and using a PS3 wireless controller was too much of a hassle and had a crazy input lag. With the OUYA no input lags at all.
Feels like playing the real consoles. Finally.
I will be honest, my first impressions of my Nvidia Shield were so so. I love the few available games which take advantage of the controller and the beast of a graphics chip. However, last night I discovered that it would play my old roms. NES, SNES, N64. Amazing. Portable old school nintendo games for the win. Definitely worth the money I paid for it now. As new games come out, great. Goldeneye, Zelda, Street Fighter 2 on a portable? Fantastic. Anyone who has a shield should check this out.
Which emulators did you try had full shield support?
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Which emulators did you try had full shield support?
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I know for PSX games, ePSXe works perfectly with the Shield controls, and has great performance. I'm also using SuperN64 for my N64 emulator.
SuperGNES works great as well, highly recommended.
I wish the MAME dev could leverage the cpu cores with MAME. Seems games that are slow on the Tegra 3 are still slow on the Tegra 4, in spite of 2X cpu benchmarks. I appreciate that relative speed will not be proportional, but seems huge diminished return scale for now. PC version does scale with cpu speed more directly. Perhaps Dalvik byte code layer is the culprit and an operational constraint...
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Which emulators did you try had full shield support?
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I have tried various emulators. The NES and SNES emulators by Robert Broglia work excellent with the device. I just tried the N64 emulator and the PS 1 emulators also and they work well. Again, you have to map the buttons, but its a once and done process. DEFINITELY worth it.
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I have tried various emulators. The NES and SNES emulators by Robert Broglia work excellent with the device. I just tried the N64 emulator and the PS 1 emulators also and they work well. Again, you have to map the buttons, but its a once and done process. DEFINITELY worth it.
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I agree with this. It's been flawless with SNES, NES, and Nintendo DS. N64 works pretty well, but some ROMs are unplayable because of graphical issues (e.g. Conker, Jet Force Gemini, etc). Haven't tried PSx yet.
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xx5strider said:
I have tried various emulators. The NES and SNES emulators by Robert Broglia work excellent with the device. I just tried the N64 emulator and the PS 1 emulators also and they work well. Again, you have to map the buttons, but its a once and done process. DEFINITELY worth it.
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Robert Broglia didn't make those emulators, he just ported them and profiteered ruthlessly off the labor and love of others. He's... A prick, is the word? Don't speak of him.
I agree
I have transferred my entire snes and mame collection, what an amazing device,it seems that this is ideal, all other devices i have tried in the past just dont cut it.
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I have transferred my entire snes and mame collection, what an amazing device,it seems that this is ideal, all other devices i have tried in the past just dont cut it.
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Its unreal. What a hidden gem the emulators have been for this system. You are absolutely right, the setup feels so correct for these games. Hey what do you use for MAME btw?
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N64 works pretty well, but some ROMs are unplayable because of graphical issues (e.g. Conker, Jet Force Gemini, etc)
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I have had no issues playing Conker, Banjo Kazooie, Banjo Tooie, or Mario 64. I like platformers
I suggest using the latest version of Mupen64 beta: http://www.paulscode.com/forum/index.php?topic=96.0
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Agreed. Free, full Shield support, pre-mapped controls, countless cores, support for a custom ROM folder. I popped in the MicroSD card from my SuperCard DSTWO and copied my ROMs folder. Almost everything I tried works perfectly and looks amazing. The WAD loader doesn't seem to work on the Shield but there are countless other solutions for playing WAD files, many with full Shield support.
So far I've tried cores for PSX, PCE, SNES, NES, GameBoy, GBC, GBA & Sega Genesis. All worked flawlessly. Also included Desmume the DS emulator if you want to give that a shot for free instead of shelling out $8. I've got that, Dolphin Alpha, Mupen64 Plus, PPSSPP and I'm pretty sure that covers about every emulatable console I'm interested in.
Be sure to also check out the emulators section at the bottom of the Google Docs compatibility list this forum is working on collectively. I can't post a link because I don't have a long enough post history but it's at the top of the forum.
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Robert Broglia didn't make those emulators, he just ported them and profiteered ruthlessly off the labor and love of others. He's... A prick, is the word? Don't speak of him.
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Why not? He makes a great shell and offers plenty of his own features. There is no rule in the respective license of those cores that forbids building upon them and charging for that work. His iOS emulators are second to none, and even here on Android he offers a competitive product. He was first out the gate with Wii U Pro controller support, releases very steady updates. Calling him a prick for doing something that countless mobile emulator developers do is more than a little harsh.
Hell, he still releases binaries for WebOS, which is pretty much just a labour of love at this point. An emulator core isn't everything. Unless the core developers release quality front-ends for every OS imaginable, then they should hardly be surprised or upset that someone has taken their open-source, GPLv2 licensed work and done exactly what that license allows and is intended for.
Are you guys done here??
I sincerely hope so!
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Why not? He makes a great shell and offers plenty of his own features. There is no rule in the respective license of those cores that forbids building upon them and charging for that work. His iOS emulators are second to none, and even here on Android he offers a competitive product. He was first out the gate with Wii U Pro controller support, releases very steady updates. Calling him a prick for doing something that countless mobile emulator developers do is more than a little harsh.
Hell, he still releases binaries for WebOS, which is pretty much just a labour of love at this point. An emulator core isn't everything. Unless the core developers release quality front-ends for every OS imaginable, then they should hardly be surprised or upset that someone has taken their open-source, GPLv2 licensed work and done exactly what that license allows and is intended for.
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I am not an emulation historian, and I do not own and will never again own an Apple device so I cannot comment on the IOS side of things, but my understanding is that Robert B. does what he does in violation of the wishes of the original coders. Frontends are pretty and all but I'd rather have the better emulator than a needlessly user-friendly front end. The Snes9x core in Retorarch is supposed to annihilate Broglia's old Snes9x ripoff for instance, and doesn't rely on frameskipping and speedhacking, it just does the job right, and does so on both Android and IOS. I do agree that making stuff for WebOS is "neat" and all but it's not like he's doing it for free, he's merely looking for another market to do a port job to so he can reap money off other people's labors. If Symbian was still around he'd make a port to that just so he could steal some more. With Retroarch around and becoming ever more refined I think that Robert Broglia is less relevant and less impressive than he has ever, ever been.
And saying that the developers went with a GPLv2 license so that some **** could profiteer off of it... Yeah. Not so much. Many of them regretted that decision once this situation developed, and have changed their license for newer versions. This is why the Robert B Snes emulators are running outdated, inferior versions of Snes9x, because the intelligent, talented people behind Snes9x stopped it by changing the license AFAIK. Also yes there are some other emulator developers that make front ends for other people's cores, but they typically have one or maybe two; they don't have a full panoply of them that they're funding their entire beer budget with.
Again, I could be wrong about alot of that, it's just what I've read from multiple sources - cept the WebOS theory which is just me. You may well know more about the situation than I do and I'd love to learn about it.
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I am not an emulation historian, and I do not own and will never again own an Apple device so I cannot comment on the IOS side of things, but my understanding is that Robert B. does what he does in violation of the wishes of the original coders. Frontends are pretty and all but I'd rather have the better emulator than a needlessly user-friendly front end. The Snes9x core in Retorarch is supposed to annihilate Broglia's old Snes9x ripoff for instance, and doesn't rely on frameskipping and speedhacking, it just does the job right, and does so on both Android and IOS. I do agree that making stuff for WebOS is "neat" and all but it's not like he's doing it for free, he's merely looking for another market to do a port job to so he can reap money off other people's labors. If Symbian was still around he'd make a port to that just so he could steal some more. With Retroarch around and becoming ever more refined I think that Robert Broglia is less relevant and less impressive than he has ever, ever been.
And saying that the developers went with a GPLv2 license so that some **** could profiteer off of it... Yeah. Not so much. Many of them regretted that decision once this situation developed, and have changed their license for newer versions. This is why the Robert B Snes emulators are running outdated, inferior versions of Snes9x, because the intelligent, talented people behind Snes9x stopped it by changing the license AFAIK. Also yes there are some other emulator developers that make front ends for other people's cores, but they typically have one or maybe two; they don't have a full panoply of them that they're funding their entire beer budget with.
Again, I could be wrong about alot of that, it's just what I've read from multiple sources - cept the WebOS theory which is just me. You may well know more about the situation than I do and I'd love to learn about it.
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**** or no ****, those developers posted their software with the GPLv2 license, therefore they have little ammunition against this guy as he is operating fully within the law and the license the original developers set out with. If they don't like it then they shouldnt have used that license at the time.
For reference, I dont own any of this guys emulators and likely wont ever own them either. Just pointing out that from a legal stance he has done nothing wrong.
I have almost all of his emulators and appreciate his effort. Without it, we would have lower performing versions and and no Turbografx emu. I could not disagree more as a result.
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I have almost all of his emulators and appreciate his effort. Without it, we would have lower performing versions and and no Turbografx emu. I could not disagree more as a result.
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Retroarch's turbografx/PC Engine core is superior AFAIK, it runs beautifully. The new Snes9x cores in Retroarch blow the speedhacked, coarse old ones (Robert's forks) out of the water. The Picodrive core in Retroarch (Sega master system, Genesis/megadrive/ CD/ 32x) is far superior to Robert's forked, old-code md emulator. Stella core (atari 2600) is faster than Robert's fork, The NGP core runs beautifully in Retroarch I was just using it, there's no reason to be silly and pay 4.99 to do something worse than the version you can get for free.
So pay for something ****ty or get something superior for free. Hm....
It's all old code which was forked and then jury rigged to give a roughly passable experience with lots of errors. And that costs money, mind you. Or you could use Retroarch and other open source stuff and have freshly developed and top of the line open sourced code which offers superior emulation, and pay nothing.
I've heard the guy offers good support if there are issues running the emulators properly on your device, but that's the least you can reasonably expect from someone charging $8 for an MSX emulator.
Retro just recently surfaced, so 20/20 hindsight there. PCE app has been out for about three years. Point is several years of using the apps, thanks to the dev. I have zero problem paying for somebody's effort porting to Android. I appreciate the effort.
The problem with Retroarch is you can not set discrete folders for each emu. I hope the dev does provide the option at some point.
I can't stop playing DS (DraStic) on it. It's runs about 99% of games at full speed. Normally I would NEVER pay for an emulator,i'll usually just find the apk on the net because emus should be free but for 8 bucks I didn't care. So much fun. I wish I could enjoy N64 more but mupen is crap compared to n64oid which i don't believe is being worked on anymore. By crap I mean it runs games decent enough but too many graphical glitches and the inconvenience of always having to change setting depending on the game. N64oid would work but the second analog and triggers arent recognized /: