[Q] "Insufficient storage available"with so much space available, please help.
Hi before some of you out there start throwing rocks at me hear me out please(I mean it about the brilliant developers on the forum not disrespect intended)
Is a know fact one of the problem than the Nexus 7 (2012) have if this stupid idea of Google not letting us to move applications to the what is presented as a SD storage (I know is not sd card per se) and so far nobody have come with a reliable solution to solve it now the new Nexus is out and I think nobody is going to bother to look in to it.
There is few ways to do it for what i have read but most of them fail 80% of the time create partitions the use of S2E and so on. I haven't still manage to suscefuly do this in a simple and 100% effective move, there is always something I have try many options available and still i haven't manage to move anything last I tried was the upgrade to nakasi because they claim the solve also the lag but nothing is really improving on the applications part so I am back to CM10 and the rest of the gang.
Please don't write nasty answers or call me names that I already know if you going to write something make worth it for me and for many others in this situation, asking about how much music or videos or even applications I have because this is not really the problem this something with in the core. my Nexus is almost empty no pictures no videos no games.
Nexus 7 32Gb WiFi I was on stock ROM, although unlocked and rooted. Now CM10
I have barely anything left on my nexus - and its still giving the same message.
According to Internal Storage settings:
Total Space: 27.58 Gb
Currently 17.90Gb available
Apps - 532mb used 454 available *"ATTENTION TO THIS VALUE"
Pictures/videos - 748kb
Audio - 332kb
App Downloads - 9.6gb
Downloads 4.29 Mb
Cached data - 83.42Mb
I went into settings and cleared cached data too
Please Help and thanks
Why do you think you need the ability to move apps to SD storage?
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
Your post barely makes sense. And to say you're let down by fellow xda members because one of us hasn't jumped to "fix" something that only you seem to think is broken, is ludicrous.
You won't find any help here I'll bet with your "blame everyone for your own problems" attitude my friend.
After your thread title....I'm betting someone who could or has figured out how to help you would just keep walking.
K...I'm done. And you got my vote for most ridiculous thread of the month award!!!!
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BTW. USB drive. Problem solved!!!
You're welcome.
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oscaraperez, on the Nexus 7, the /sdcard folder is actually a symlink to a path in /data/media. It's on the same partition as everything else in /data -- which is to say, your applications. They share the same pool of storage. So there's really nothing to be gained by moving apps to /sdcard.
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All aboard the whingemill! Sounds like a classic example of PEBKAC (although there's not often a keyboard or chair involved in mobile-land).
I don't think you understand how storage works on Nexus devices. You don't move apps to the virtual /sdcard location because you run out of space on some kind of /apps partition. Stuff on a Nexus device is in an essentially unified block with the exception of /system, and if you're installing everything there, well, that's your problem.
If you're out of space, you're out of space. Your music/movies/apps matter because, newsflash, they're what go on your storage.
I solved his issue. (USB storage for media)......why didn't he thank me yet?
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kj2112 said:
I solved his issue. (USB storage for media)......why didn't he thank me yet?
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Plus you can use the FolderMount app, and otg-helper to link directories to your USB. I use it to run large games's obb files from the USB, which only leaves the small .akp file on the device. As you can see from the screenshot, I have about 9 gigs of apps on my 8 GB nexus 7. FolderMount is a great app.
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Plus you can use the FolderMount app, and otg-helper to mount directories to your USB. I use it to run large games's obb files from the USB, which only leaves the small .akp file on the device. As you can see from the screenshot, I have about 9 gigs of apps on my 8 GB nexus 7. FolderMount is a great app.
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Oops forgot the screenshot.
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I am sorry I will try to change the title
The first think I said is "please before you start throwing rocks at me hear me out" and "Please don't write nasty answers or call me names that I already know if you going to write something make worth it".
Pirateghost you will see down below, thank you
khaytsus I will try my best to "Speak the speach" sorry, thank you
kj2112 you are a Senior member I think you are the one with the attitude just because I am a Junior member doesn't mean I don't know what I am talking about is plenty reference to this issue on Google have a look if you want before write such answer, there is even a couple of technical intented ways to work around but they don't work.
Is also a mention to this here ond XDA: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1837241 he is still waiting for help
There was a nice technical explanation on why Google is having this sort of restriction but I can't find it also explaining the issue about this trap memory
Perhaps the title is no very nice and I apologize for it and by the way I have no friends like you, your answer is just sad and prove your ignorance on this particular issue.
Rirere You misunderstand me ENTIRELY. Just because I may not be a programmer or a modder does NOT mean I am a complete idiot to technology
I thanks those one than are showing some interest on this and I will explain myself a little bit better because english is not my first language I will quote some others post around the web please bare with me and thank you to those than I using theirs remarks and even screen shots.
Nexus 7 32Gb WiFi I was on stock ROM, although unlocked and rooted. Now CM10
I have barely anything left on my nexus - and its still giving the same message.
According to Internal Storage settings:
Total Space: 27.58 Gb
Currently 17.90Gb available
Apps - 532mb used 454 free *"ATTENTION TO THIS VALUE"
Pictures/videos - 748kb
Audio - 332kb
App Downloads - 9.6gb
Downloads 4.29 Mb
Cached data - 83.42Mb
I went into settings and cleared cached data too?
I did a search and seen some advice on downloading app Trim (Lagfix). But I can't even download apps (insufficience space).
* I know Android needs 500MB of space free to work with. Every OS reserves memory for various reasons. What puzzles me - is that even when I have deleted lots of games/movies basically everithing already - its still saying insufficient space? Its like no space is freeing up. I've uninstalled/deleted most of the apps.
Even Trying to update some apps I am getting an insufficient storage error - but when I look with System Info I can see plenty of space, including the cache
kj2112, Rirere are you with me?
I know there is not and SD card per Se and the nexus use those 32GB space for everything That is the reason one of the recommendation somewhere was to create and mount a partition ext4 or ext3 and with the help of S2E move the aplication like a virtual external sd card to free some of the APP space
I am calling it SD card for the benefit of other juniors members like me in case they read this post
I try to partition my SD card using ROM manager but is not working. The idea is for the table to think that part of my SD card is create a partition on the SD card that acts like internal memory, not external memory. This partition must be in theformat ext partition.I like a large ext partition because I install a lot of apps. I have approximately 240 apps on my Titanium backup pro. I made the ext partition 1.9 GB.( is recomeded not to go more 2Gb) Note: This supposed to erase everything on the SD card so I backed up first. Benefit: The tablet thinks the ext partition on the SD card is internal memory I have tried to mount the ext partition even used my Ubuntu laptop and gparted and blah blah you guys got the idea better than me for sure because I just fallow others people recommendations.
S2E seem to be working but is clearly not since there is not a mounted "ext" I have also discover researching around than S2E is also having problems with the Nexus7 in particular I have try to contact the developer OlegKrikun but so far not answer meanwhile one guy claim he solve the issue inside the S2E application but din't work for me I have also tried link2sd whit no luck.
So maybe now I have explained myself a little bit better please be patient English is no my language you have some how to read betewnt the lines in resume:
- Out of memory (even after deleting every application)
- only a fresh flash clear everything
- creating this virtual space or ext partition will allow me to install and run few more application (like any other phone will allow me to move to external memory) expanding the 500Mb limitation I know a little bit how the Nexus storage work Rirere
- jfmcbrayer I disagree with you unless I am doing something else wrong the benefit of moving app to this virtual sd (ext Partition) will allow me to install many more aplications.
- kj2112 I can't thank you because you have been plain rude and not helpful.
- bluecarbon thank I was doing that but as you can see there is some other kind of issue my Nexus is almos empty and still is giving me the storage error
Anyway thanks to those than really want to help and I am sorry I will try to change the title
I din't wanted to make personal
As for the tittle: "I am a bit let down by my fellow forum members" is dedicate to you kj2112 and the member like you ... you got my vote for most ridiculous thread reply of the month award!!!! put you effort in helping and not in make me look stupid.
Is 3:15 here in my country I apologized if was a bit rude and cut it short
I have yet to see a compelling reason for moving apps to storage. You have the whole thing confused. Your apps all reside in /data except for the ROM which resides in/system. The link you posted has absolutely nothing to do with what you are talking about.
I think you are confused on how the system works and are causing more harm than good trying to circumvent the way Android works.
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I won't quote your huge post OP.....and frankly, I am not concerned with your issue or a solution. I'm concerned with you suggesting XDA members have let YOU down by not resolving your issue.
I don't care about storage issues, and most others aren't either....there are many ways to boost your storage....without an SD card.
If you look at my profile....and please do....you'll see I have however many posts....and almost half that number in thanks given to me. Not bragging at all.....just pointing out that I'm a productive and helpful member here at xda and have the thanks to prove it.
So again......blaming your fellow xda members for not solving your issue is not going to win you any respect here....and will make it even harder for you to find help in the future.
My suggestion.....type please delete as your thread title.....change all your posts here to simply "delete".......then politely ask a moderator to delete this thread before too many see it, or anyone looks at your profile and sees it.
It's called damage control.
Thank you and have a nice day.
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kj2112 said:
I won't quote your huge post OP.....and frankly, I am not concerned with your issue or a solution. I'm concerned with you suggesting XDA members have let YOU down by not resolving your issue.
I don't care about storage issues, and most others aren't either....there are many ways to boost your storage....without an SD card.
If you look at my profile....and please do....you'll see I have however many posts....and almost half that number in thanks given to me. Not bragging at all.....just pointing out that I'm a productive and helpful member here at xda and have the thanks to prove it.
So again......blaming your fellow xda members for not solving your issue is not going to win you any respect here....and will make it even harder for you to find help in the future.
My suggestion.....type please delete as your thread title.....change all your posts here to simply "delete".......then politely ask a moderator to delete this thread before too many see it, or anyone looks at your profile and sees it.
It's called damage control.
Thank you and have a nice day.
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You still not reading about my issue, now you just not happy about my comment towards you and I already apologize for the title I can't change now and I will not delete my post because it is an issue for me and I asking for help to solve it I notice how many people appreciate your help 503 thanks that is very nice, but that is no my case you were rude to me and I am entitle to my opinion just like you. If you don't care about my problem is fine perhap one day I have a problem than interes you and you may feel like helping me
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Pirateghost said:
I have yet to see a compelling reason for moving apps to storage. You have the whole thing confused. Your apps all reside in /data except for the ROM which resides in/system. The link you posted has absolutely nothing to do with what you are talking about.
I think you are confused on how the system works and are causing more harm than good trying to circumvent the way Android works.
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I most be really wrong here but he is reporting the same problem "No space" even if is no true, sorry I am missing something beyond my capabilities.
please be so kind to explain to me how I still have "Insufficient storage available" message on app update or installations with so much space available
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Dear Moderator Could you please change the tittle of my post to: Nexus 7 "Insufficient storage available" message on app update or installations with so much space available, please help.
Some members found the original one a bit harsh and I don't want to offend anyone I have try myself but couldn't therefore my apologies on the first post
Thanks
oscaraperez said:
Dear Moderator Could you please change the tittle of my post to: Nexus 7 Insufficient space error messagebut is not true, please help.
Some members found the original one a bit harsh and I don't want to offend anyone I have try myself but couldn't therefore my apologies on the first post
Thanks
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Edit it yourself.
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oscaraperez said:
Dear Moderator Could you please change the tittle of my post to: Nexus 7 "Insufficient storage available" message on app update or installations with so much space available, please help.
Some members found the original one a bit harsh and I don't want to offend anyone I have try myself but couldn't therefore my apologies on the first post
Thanks
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Edit your first post....you can change the title too.
I told you a work around for storage problems, as did others. USB sticks/drives BTW.
Again.....its not that I am not interested in your issue.....I just didn't like the apparent tone of your title....there are many people here that seem to blame other members and especially rom devs for their problems. And most issues on this entire forum are due to not following instructions and not reading through threads for tips and warnings.
So I apologize for coming across harsh....but its a sore spot for many members here. A lot of people seem to have a sense of entitlement here and are too lazy to read threads, opening posts for roms and even the xda rules. It just gets some people's backs up....like my own.
So good luck with your issue and I'd help more, but aside from storage self management and/or USB storage.....I have no other ideas.
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oscaraperez said:
I most be really wrong here but he is reporting the same problem "No space" even if is no true, sorry I am missing something beyond my capabilities.
please be so kind to explain to me how I still have "Insufficient storage available" message on app update or installations with so much space available
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By the way....sounds to me like your system partition is full. That's totally different than your virtual sd card.....which means all you can do is get rid of some big games and apps.
Correct me if I'm wrong someone ....I know my s2's inner workings much more than my N7.
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kj2112 said:
Edit your first post....you can change the title too.
I told you a work around for storage problems, as did others. USB sticks/drives BTW.
Again.....its not that I am not interested in your issue.....I just didn't like the apparent tone of your title....there are many people here that seem to blame other members and especially rom devs for their problems. And most issues on this entire forum are due to not following instructions and not reading through threads for tips and warnings.
So I apologize for coming across harsh....but its a sore spot for many members here. A lot of people seem to have a sense of entitlement here and are too lazy to read threads, opening posts for roms and even the xda rules. It just gets some people's backs up....like my own.
So good luck with your issue and I'd help more, but aside from storage self management and/or USB storage.....I have no other ideas.
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Done thanks
I am not blaming anybody here this is a google even if you guys don't believe me I have plenty space available I have basically unistalled and deleted and clean everything as far as I capable there is no need for storage management here if you notice on the details of my storage. Men I wish I can find again the reference to this problem on the other forum I'll keep looking.
similar problem: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1877916
Well thanks and again my apologies for the old title to you and all the others
oscaraperez said:
Rirere You misunderstand me ENTIRELY. Just because I may not be a programmer or a modder does NOT mean I am a complete idiot to technology
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You don't have to be a "complete idiot" to create your own problems. PEBKAC implies a lot more about a user's attitude than their technical proficiency, and although you've been gracious enough to fix the title, it's still pretty evident from your first post that your initial approach was pretty damn lacking. You don't walk up to people, insult them with a backhanded remark, and then blame them for not helping you.
oscaraperez said:
I have barely anything left on my nexus - and its still giving the same message.
According to Internal Storage settings:
Total Space: 27.58 Gb
Currently 17.90Gb available
Apps - 532mb used 454 free *"ATTENTION TO THIS VALUE"
Pictures/videos - 748kb
Audio - 332kb
App Downloads - 9.6gb
Downloads 4.29 Mb
Cached data - 83.42Mb
I went into settings and cleared cached data too?
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I'm going to call it and say you screwed up a flash somewhere along the line. None of the stock Android devices I own (or any of the test devices at my workplace) have an entry for "free" data outside of the primary report at the top. It sounds like somewhere, you actually physically partitioned off /data or created a virtual container for it. I certainly can't remember ever seeing this issue in Cyanogenmod by default anywhere, and I've used it for a while.
oscaraperez said:
I did a search and seen some advice on downloading app Trim (Lagfix). But I can't even download apps (insufficience space).
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Lagfix is an implementation of fstrim, which marks deleted blocks as no longer in use by the filesystem. But it's not a tool designed to increase free storage space. Your OS knows and realizes that it's got space available. fstrim just politely notifies your memory controller that such is the case.
oscaraperez said:
* I know Android needs 500MB of space free to work with. Every OS reserves memory for various reasons. What puzzles me - is that even when I have deleted lots of games/movies basically everithing already - its still saying insufficient space? Its like no space is freeing up. I've uninstalled/deleted most of the apps.
Even Trying to update some apps I am getting an insufficient storage error - but when I look with System Info I can see plenty of space, including the cache
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Android doesn't "need" 500MB free, but like any UNIX/LINUX-similar system, Android wants space available so it can page to disk. However, it will pull this silently from elsewhere in the filesystem and it would just slow down if you were truly out of space.
oscaraperez said:
kj2112, Rirere are you with me?
I know there is not and SD card per Se and the nexus use those 32GB space for everything That is the reason one of the recommendation somewhere was to create and mount a partition ext4 or ext3 and with the help of S2E move the aplication like a virtual external sd card to free some of the APP space
I am calling it SD card for the benefit of other juniors members like me in case they read this post
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Good intentions, bad idea. When people who don't know what's going on try to use technical labels to describe a problem, it just makes things harder for anyone to help you.
oscaraperez said:
I try to partition my SD card using ROM manager but is not working. The idea is for the table to think that part of my SD card is create a partition on the SD card that acts like internal memory, not external memory. This partition must be in theformat ext partition.I like a large ext partition because I install a lot of apps. I have approximately 240 apps on my Titanium backup pro. I made the ext partition 1.9 GB.( is recomeded not to go more 2Gb) Note: This supposed to erase everything on the SD card so I backed up first. Benefit: The tablet thinks the ext partition on the SD card is internal memory I have tried to mount the ext partition even used my Ubuntu laptop and gparted and blah blah you guys got the idea better than me for sure because I just fallow others people recommendations.
S2E seem to be working but is clearly not since there is not a mounted "ext" I have also discover researching around than S2E is also having problems with the Nexus7 in particular I have try to contact the developer OlegKrikun but so far not answer meanwhile one guy claim he solve the issue inside the S2E application but din't work for me I have also tried link2sd whit no luck.
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In order to mount your device's partitions on an external device, you would need to configure the onboard MTP to expose more partitions than /sdcard. Since what you're describing isn't default behavior (read: shouldn't be happening), you should stop mucking around with partitions and reflash completely to stock. Since you've created partitions already though, that's not as easy as it would be otherwise.
oscaraperez said:
So maybe now I have explained myself a little bit better please be patient English is no my language you have some how to read betewnt the lines in resume:
- Out of memory (even after deleting every application)
- only a fresh flash clear everything
- creating this virtual space or ext partition will allow me to install and run few more application (like any other phone will allow me to move to external memory) expanding the 500Mb limitation I know a little bit how the Nexus storage work Rirere
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If you knew "a little bit," you would not be trying to create partitions, virtual or otherwise. Your internal table is screwed up if this is happening, and I definitely can't recall ever having this issue with Cyanogenmod based ROMs.
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- jfmcbrayer I disagree with you unless I am doing something else wrong the benefit of moving app to this virtual sd (ext Partition) will allow me to install many more aplications.
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Even if you were doing it right, it would have precious little bearing on how Android is supposed to work by default. The new unified filestructures were introduced in 4.0.x to solve this issue.
Bottom line, revert your partitions back to stock. I don't think can emphasize enough that trying to fix a non-existent problem without fully understanding the underlying technology-- and I mean fully-- causes far more problems than it tends to solve.
Please leave alone men I need help to solve the problem
Rirere said:
You don't have to be a "complete idiot" to create your own problems. PEBKAC implies a lot more about a user's attitude than their technical proficiency, and although you've been gracious enough to fix the title, it's still pretty evident from your first post that your initial approach was pretty damn lacking. You don't walk up to people, insult them with a backhanded remark, and then blame them for not helping you.
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WOW thanks you definetly a nice guy I can see that I din't create any problem the message is there for "insufficient storage space" the rest I try it afterward I have flash and reflash 2 time stock 2 times CM10 and after some time is back
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I'm going to call it and say you screwed up a flash somewhere along the line. None of the stock Android devices I own (or any of the test devices at my workplace) have an entry for "free" data outside of the primary report at the top. It sounds like somewhere, you actually physically partitioned off /data or created a virtual container for it. I certainly can't remember ever seeing this issue in Cyanogenmod by default anywhere, and I've used it for a while.
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right now I can't update the applications and free space value is clearly state at the bottom right of Storage/Apps/Running
Rirere said:
Lagfix is an implementation of fstrim, which marks deleted blocks as no longer in use by the filesystem. But it's not a tool designed to increase free storage space. Your OS knows and realizes that it's got space available. fstrim just politely notifies your memory controller that such is the case.
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I agree with you here I was try some others recommendation but not harm doneby this
Rirere said:
Android doesn't "need" 500MB free, but like any UNIX/LINUX-similar system, Android wants space available so it can page to disk. However, it will pull this silently from elsewhere in the filesystem and it would just slow down if you were truly out of space.
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There is many reference to this requirement whether is silently or not at the end of the day after going under the 500Mb the problems start sorry for my lack of technical explanation I din't know that part
Rirere said:
Good intentions, bad idea. When people who don't know what's going on try to use technical labels to describe a problem, it just makes things harder for anyone to help you.
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And you are not really helping by attacking me post like you steer others away from even trying to help
Rirere said:
In order to mount your device's partitions on an external device, you would need to configure the onboard MTP to expose more partitions than /sdcard. Since what you're describing isn't default behavior (read: shouldn't be happening), you should stop mucking around with partitions and reflash completely to stock. Since you've created partitions already though, that's not as easy as it would be otherwise.
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the partition were never created as I mention before I couldn't do it
Rirere said:
If you knew "a little bit," you would not be trying to create partitions, virtual or otherwise. Your internal table is screwed up if this is happening, and I definitely can't recall ever having this issue with Cyanogenmod based ROMs.
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What can I say is happening to me and few others google it
Rirere said:
Bottom line, revert your partitions back to stock. I don't think can emphasize enough that trying to fix a non-existent problem without fully understanding the underlying technology-- and I mean fully-- causes far more problems than it tends to solve.
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You quote some of my comment conveniently avoiding others
I reflash to CM10 I have no partion there is nothing screw up because of my wrong doing but I still have the same error I just try to get help to solve went some body is drowning you don't throw rocks at them I make a mistake on the title and I change it and apologize but you still found more issues just take for what it is a grammatical error and error of translation from my language (brain) in to yours. If you can't do anything else but to offend me why don't you just forget about this post and move on let me be a soon I find more reference to this problems i will keep updating the post whit the links hopping for some body to come along a notice and perhaps help me and help the others with this issue.
I know than I no making myself understood but why people don't just come any other explanation about my apparent lack of space and is not true I have no games no music no pictures only few applications.
Some others working with some phones with integrated memory have encounter this issue and solve it with partitions but is not working on the nexus7 why I have no the option to do so like the others and then like them have the option back to move the application on the "App info page" I have and HTC OneX on that phone I can move the application somewhere ( called it virtual external card for example) I use SDMove I have plenty space and after almost 2 years I have never run out of space including music videos games etc how this work How HTC work around this if you can help I will appreciate it
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for some reason, my phone is unable to boot up and loops at the android screen if my SD card isn't inserted. I use apps to SD, moved all apps, cache and dalvik-cache. I commonly use Nandroid backups to. Is there any reason for this? I am running Haykuro 5.0.2H. This isn't a big issue for me, and I really don't mind. (73 MB Free on phone ) Just curious if anyone else has this issue.
Well let's think about this for a second... you symlinked the apps folder to the sdcard. If you reboot and the sdcard is missing, you don't think the os is going to freak out a little? I mean it doesn't take a rocket scientist to put two and two together here...
Haha that was what I was thinking... just wanted to see everyone else would agree on that.
you wasted space on a forum for such a ridiculous question...
and it doesnt take that much brain power to put two and two .....
this is why so many members get mad because of stuff like this...
just search next time...
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or post on an existing thread that talks about problems with haykuros roms
bigballa said:
you wasted space on a forum for such a ridiculous question...
and it doesnt take that much brain power to put two and two .....
this is why so many members get mad because of stuff like this...
just search next time...
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or post on an existing thread that talks about problems with haykuros roms
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If you haven't noticed the Haykuro thread is getting new posts literally every minute. It is nearly impossible to get anything answered in there. I want to know WHY this is so. How does having applications on an SD card prevent the phone from booting if it isn't present?
I would like to see you make your own conclusion about why this is so. It may make sense just to think about it, but to explain it is another issue.
I don't think this was a ridiculous question, because it is something I want to know. Your answer however was quite rude.
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Actually, I believe I am one of the first to bring up this question. Why don't you go search the forums for something like this. I did, there was nothing relating to an issue like this.
Comment 559 by af9210, Today (2 hours ago)
will the feature require a certain class speed sd card
Comment 564 by [email protected], Today (28 minutes ago)
@559 - As with any software which needs to do a lot of I/O - the faster the card the
better.
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@564 i understand... do you have knowledge about how it will be implemented..... for
instance do we need to create a separate partition ie ext2 ext4 etc?
Comment 566 by [email protected], Today (1 minute ago)
@565 - We've gone to a lot of effort to ensure you *don't* have to repartition / format your cards for this to work. We coexist with the existing FAT32 partition on the card to ensure compatibility with your existing cards/devices.
sounds pretty good development by the android team huh
sounds good but if i remember correctly the reason the community a2sd devs make it so you have to use an ext partition was to help prevent piracy, and of course have your phone usable when the sdcard was mounted by the pc. i wonder if google came up with a new type of copy protection.
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sounds good but if i remember correctly the reason the community a2sd devs make it so you have to use an ext partition was to help prevent piracy, and of course have your phone usable when the sdcard was mounted by the pc. i wonder if google came up with a new type of copy protection.
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However Ext partitions don't stop you pirating.
I can still get ALL of the installed apps off my phone if I need to and that's using my phone. No special software needed as such (nothing that's not free on the market anyway).
Yup, sounds like a new encryption method.
Yep, noone can boot up an ubuntu cd and mount the ext partition...
More likely it's because fat32 can't handle linux style file permissions.
godsfilth said:
sounds good but if i remember correctly the reason the community a2sd devs make it so you have to use an ext partition was to help prevent piracy, and of course have your phone usable when the sdcard was mounted by the pc. i wonder if google came up with a new type of copy protection.
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They could install protected apps onto internal flash - as they do now. Most of apps aren't protected, so we'll still have a lot of additional space.
My theory is that rather than a separate partition, it'll just create a file of xx amount of size on the mem card, then fill it up. It'll probably be somewhat of a safe measure, as it'll most likely be encrypted and of a filetype that isn't common (or it could even be some kind of internal compression method such as zip, but a self written program).
They said they wouldnt do it until they figure out a way to encrypt it.
Ill take it thats what they did.
Yeah, they did say it would not come till they hashed out some piracy measures, not that they will help whatsoever, but they did say that.
I don't understand what the big deal is.
Couldn't they have just done Apps2SD for all free apps and called it a day?
No one is purchasing 500 megabytes worth of apps.
Offloading all the free ones to the SD = BOOM.
Easy and would have absolutely zero consequences on piracy.
Current methods have no consequences on piracy, future methods have no consequences on piracy. Hopefully the gave up worrying about something they can never stop.
GldRush98 said:
Current methods have no consequences on piracy, future methods have no consequences on piracy. Hopefully the gave up worrying about something they can never stop.
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What is this word you speak of piracy, never heard of it
GldRush98 said:
Current methods have no consequences on piracy, future methods have no consequences on piracy. Hopefully the gave up worrying about something they can never stop.
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Ever heard of cloud computing?
Paul22000 said:
I don't understand what the big deal is.
Couldn't they have just done Apps2SD for all free apps and called it a day?
No one is purchasing 500 megabytes worth of apps.
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That is a very bold statement to make.
Once you can install applications to your sdcard, what's to stop you from purchasing ONE program that is, by itself, 500 MB?
Has anyone encountered a problem as far as apps that are able to move to sd and then disappearing from app menu? As well as icons on homescreen turning to android generic icons? I can still access the apps from homescreen ,manage apps and astro but as i said the icon for the app on the home screen changes to somewhat of a generic looking android icon. One of the apps in question is titanium backup.
Now if i go to manage apps and place apps back to phone everything reappears in its rightful spot. Could it be a temp glitch in froyo? Some setting i might have missed? Any info would be appreciated...thnx
Yes it happened to me, every applications I moved on the sdcard suddenly disappeared from the menu. I had to move one of them on the phone to make them all reappear. As I don't have so much applications installed (~25), I moved them all back to the phone until this is fixed
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Yes it happened to me, every applications I moved on the sdcard suddenly disappeared from the menu. I had to move one of them on the phone to make them all reappear. As I don't have so much applications installed (~25), I moved them all back to the phone until this is fixed
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cool, thnx for the response. Least i know i didnt screw something up lol.
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100% irrelevant to this thread and what I was talking about.
I'm running Myn's warm 2.2. The thing that really gets me is I have 41.94 mb available. I could fit dozens more apps.
Is there any way I can change when that stupid low memory thing go's off. I would like to change it to something more reasonable like 10mb.
Did you do a full wipe before flashing your rom....you should have way more space than that....
Sent from my rooted evo using the xda app....if I helped you, please click Thanks!
I did a full wipe when I flashed my rom like three weeks ago. It's low because of apps. It's just it seems like that annoying notifaction shouldn't op up when I have that much space
Im all stock and had the same problem after i got a furbed phone from sprint. Was werid, I actually DL 4 apps and then said the same thing and then deleted all of them and STILL said it!
I had the same problems on several roms I found most of the space was taken either by the address book storage, or calendar storage clearing that and let it re sync solved the problem. I would recommend also going with roms that have the delvik cache moved to the cache partition that gives you about 80 megs more space. A few of the developers out there have that tweak.
Tips to increase available storage aside, I really wish there was a way to turn the notification off or adjust the threshold. To me, 10% is too high. You can still do plenty with 41MB left.
Yeah, I got that the other day. I bought a Class 10 16 GB card so I can do apps2sd. *sigh*...too many apps.
running ava Z1 and i still have 231 MD free
Do a full wipe & manually restore everything, it'll do more than just a dalvik & cache wipe which only seems to free up a few MB of internal storage.
Tedious but a healthy habit.
I had the same issue....check out the thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=887392
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Im all stock and had the same problem after i got a furbed phone from sprint. Was werid, I actually DL 4 apps and then said the same thing and then deleted all of them and STILL said it!
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This is a refurbed phone I got a month or so ago. I do have way more than 4 apps though!
Just today when I updated my apps I got a bunch of insufficent space errors, with 40.89mb's free. Are there any apps that I can use to check how much space is left besides settings-sd+phone storage.
you will seriously find all this information in the thread i posted, it's not very long either
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you will seriously find all this information in the thread i posted, it's not very long either
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I think your link is broken. Doesn't work when I click on it.
Why not download App2SD from the market place and move some of your apps to the SDCARD. This will free up space from your phone's internal storage.
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I think your link is broken. Doesn't work when I click on it.
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oops, sorry, should be fixed now
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you will seriously find all this information in the thread i posted, it's not very long either
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Thanks for fixing the link! I'd actually read that before. My contact storage is a whopping 3.7 mb yours was 157mb. You fixed yours by chopping your contact storage by chopping your contact storage way down and switching completely to a apps2sd.
I don't really think that that is the solution, in your thread there was a guy running cm 6 that got down to 12mb left. I can't get down below 40mbs without getting insufficient space errors. It seems like there must be a setting wrong somewhere.
What I recently did was installed Dark tremors a2sd on my phone. It actually moves all your apps to sd and frees up so much memory. It's frickin awesome. First you have to partition your sd card if you haven't already. To do so you must first create a backup of your sd to your computer as prtitioning will wipe the sd. Also I only now how to partition the sd using Amon RA recovery, it's much easier than using clockwork. Partition up to ext3.
To find Dark Tremors flashable zip go here- http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...hlight=apps2sd
I'll tell you what, if you cant figure out the rest, PM me and I will give you my number to help walk you through it if you need. Good luck.
BTW, I'm also using Myn with about 95 apps and have 227mb left in my phone.
did you check out the app that lets you explore the "app usage" on your phone. It should help you figure out what is eating all the memory.
I think you are probably going the wrong direction in terms of just trying to lower the low space threshold or get rid of the warning. 40mb will dwindle further and further until it creates other issues, and there is TONS of space on the evo, you need to address the low space issue, not the notification.
Use that app and browse through your internal storage, if you cant figure out whats eating up your space i *highly* recommend you root and install darktremors a2sd. I hate messing with my phone and trying to do that kind of stuff and i really had no problems when i finally caved and did it, it was all pretty simple and the instructions are laid out well.
Excuse the first post here..
Its my first but I've been a longtime member here on XDA. I usually lurk and find answers to whatever issue I come across while flashing. The problem I have at the moment is with Pure Nexus Rom I flashed this morning (ET). At first it was a notification telling me to contact manufacturer, which ended up being a vendor.img issue. I fixed that BUT I just found out I can't take screenshots. It has trouble saving it or something... it keeps saying (in notification bar) "Can't take screenshot due to limited storage, or it isn't allowed by the app or your organization."
The only thing I know about the problem is that I don't have a storage issue. I am using 6GB out of 25GBs.
Would someone be able to help figure this out?
I have a Nexus 6P Graphite 32GB.
Thanks
Ummm, sounds like a question that should be asked in that ROM's thread...
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Ummm, sounds like a question that should be asked in that ROM's thread...
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I can't post there because I haven't met the requirement.. I suppose thats Mods way of controlling thread flooding
Maybe someone else can ask my question and link this thread
OK.
So for someone else encountering similar situation, this is how you I fixed it.
When your phone shows the message “Can’t take screenshot due to limited storage space, or it isn’t allowed by the app or your organization” -- use your file explorer, find and move/delete "Pictures" folder. Bear in mind that if you decide to delete the aforementioned folder, you will of course lose whatever is inside that folder. I suggest you move "Pictures" folder to a different folder and reboot your device. Take a screenshot, It should work. It worked for me.
cheers
I ran out of storage for new apps a long time ago. My device is kind of useless for new things because there is no internal memory for INSTALLING APPS, even after removing 75% of my apps which includes system apps. There is just no more space. It still has 2gb of internal memory left BUT THAT CANNOT BE USED FOR INSTALLING APPS, stupidly. There are 8GB of total internal storage space.
I have plenty of storage for data. Just not for apps. I have a 32GB SD card as well.
App2SD apps, I maximized all possible data to be moved.
Apps with data larger than 20MB I just deleted the whole apps.
Still no more space.
Additionally, it means I CANNOT use this tablet for things like games, or for storing map data from gopilot live as a backup in case my phone dies. Which is VERY limiting. Especially because I used to like to play games on it but I had to remove all the games to make way for utilities.
Thus I DESPERATELY NEED to be able to install UNLIMITED NUMBER OF APPS using the SD card for internal storage.
I tried the vold.fstab method HERE, but it did not work.
PLEASE HELP!!! THANK YOU!!!
p.s. I WOULD BUY A NEW TABLET WITH MORE MEMORY BUT NO 7.0 INCH TABLET EXISTS THAT IS BETTER THAN THE TAB 4 BECAUSE THEY ARE ALL MAKING HUGE 8.0 and 8.4 INCH TABLETS THAT ARE TOO BIG SO I AM STUCK WITH THE TAB 4.
zxzxzxzxzxzxzxzxzx said:
I ran out of storage for new apps a long time ago. My device is kind of useless for new things because there is no internal memory for INSTALLING APPS, even after removing 75% of my apps which includes system apps. There is just no more space. It still has 2gb of internal memory left BUT THAT CANNOT BE USED FOR INSTALLING APPS, stupidly. There are 8GB of total internal storage space.
I have plenty of storage for data. Just not for apps. I have a 32GB SD card as well.
App2SD apps, I maximized all possible data to be moved.
Apps with data larger than 20MB I just deleted the whole apps.
Still no more space.
Additionally, it means I CANNOT use this tablet for things like games, or for storing map data from gopilot live as a backup in case my phone dies. Which is VERY limiting. Especially because I used to like to play games on it but I had to remove all the games to make way for utilities.
Thus I DESPERATELY NEED to be able to install UNLIMITED NUMBER OF APPS using the SD card for internal storage.
I tried the vold.fstab method HERE, but it did not work.
PLEASE HELP!!! THANK YOU!!!
p.s. I WOULD BUY A NEW TABLET WITH MORE MEMORY BUT NO 7.0 INCH TABLET EXISTS THAT IS BETTER THAN THE TAB 4 BECAUSE THEY ARE ALL MAKING HUGE 8.0 and 8.4 INCH TABLETS THAT ARE TOO BIG SO I AM STUCK WITH THE TAB 4.
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i'd say you just need test different apps all over and over akd different methods from XDA, i have on my phone sdcard as internal memory but same method wont work on tab 4..... you should use folder mount to move appdata to sdcard and use it from there, it helps if you have big app data on internal sd card.
thelous said:
i'd say you just need test different apps all over and over akd different methods from XDA, i have on my phone sdcard as internal memory but same method wont work on tab 4..... you should use folder mount to move appdata to sdcard and use it from there, it helps if you have big app data on internal sd card.
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No I tried that already. It does Not work because of the error "this has been limited due to kitkat so you're not authorized" or something to that extent. It's not an error, it is a limitation of the kitkat (and all subsequent) operating systems. Google did that on purpose to try to force people to have to upgrade their phone.
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No I tried that already. It does Not work because of the error "this has been limited due to kitkat so you're not authorized" or something to that extent. It's not an error, it is a limitation of the kitkat (and all subsequent) operating systems. Google did that on purpose to try to force people to have to upgrade their phone.
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well, you could install cyanogenmod to fix issue.....
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zxzxzxzxzxzxzxzxzx said:
Extreme measures is NOT a solution. That's like saying, "I'm having an issue with my computer..." and someone saying, "well, you could always get a new computer." NO. Not a solution.
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Cyanogenmod isn't an extreme solution, it runs better than touchwiz IMO and it takes up significantly less memory, which is a fact. It's more like saying, "I don't like Windows," and the reply being, "You should try out Ubuntu," especially since both cyanogenmod, like Ubuntu, is completely free
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Reinstalling my entire OS is not a solution. Get over it. I am not reinstalling a new OS.
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With a quote like that you are on the wrong website my friend. Sorry for trying to help. And it is a valid solution since it would've solved the problem
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Waiting for a real solution to the actual problem.
uh if youre not ready to install different rom i guess theres no solution
I'm having the exact same dilemma. In my case, not going to CM (or another rom/firmware/kernel..) is due to the fact that my children use the tablets, so the KidsMode needs to work. I've looked at that one from Zoodles, and its rubbish compared to the Samsung one available on their Galaxy devices. My original post never had any reply other than my own update.
By the way: I'm still searching for a solution to this... If only Samsung would/could release Marshmallow on this tablet, the Adoptable Storage option could be used...
Now, if you can just hold your breath...
lol I know right...?
Full disclosure: I've given up hope of finding a solution that will work with (essentially) stock 4.4.2, so now I'm looking into how to get the TouchWiz framework to run on a rom/kernel that DOES support support an external/internal swap.
Of course, that does nothing to help the OP, but IMO the best solution has already been presented to him: Install a custom ROM that supports what he needs. It's still the best solution since there don't seem to be any TouchWiz-dependent apps he needs.
Years later still no solution
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Years later still no solution
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If you are willing to root your device you can use Apps2sd to actually move(link) whole app into sd card.
You'll need to repartition your sd card to do it, but there are good guides to do it.
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Oh it's renamed app2sd but here is the link https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=in.co.pricealert.apps2sd&hl=fi for it
you can also try link2sd app
keikari said:
If you are willing to root your device you can use Apps2sd to actually move(link) whole app into sd card.
You'll need to repartition your sd card to do it, but there are good guides to do it.
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Oh it's renamed app2sd but here is the link https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=in.co.pricealert.apps2sd&hl=fi for it
you can also try link2sd app
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That's very limited and actually doesn't do anything more than the native android system does already, ever since about 2013 or so
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That's very limited and actually doesn't do anything more than the native android system does already, ever since about 2013 or so
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I don't know about how limited it is, but it's completly different than native android moving apps to sd. Linking is like actually increasing your devices internal memory(not really but somethign like that). Also it's easiest/(propably)best way to get more memory for apps.