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for some reason, my phone is unable to boot up and loops at the android screen if my SD card isn't inserted. I use apps to SD, moved all apps, cache and dalvik-cache. I commonly use Nandroid backups to. Is there any reason for this? I am running Haykuro 5.0.2H. This isn't a big issue for me, and I really don't mind. (73 MB Free on phone ) Just curious if anyone else has this issue.
Well let's think about this for a second... you symlinked the apps folder to the sdcard. If you reboot and the sdcard is missing, you don't think the os is going to freak out a little? I mean it doesn't take a rocket scientist to put two and two together here...
Haha that was what I was thinking... just wanted to see everyone else would agree on that.
you wasted space on a forum for such a ridiculous question...
and it doesnt take that much brain power to put two and two .....
this is why so many members get mad because of stuff like this...
just search next time...
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or post on an existing thread that talks about problems with haykuros roms
bigballa said:
you wasted space on a forum for such a ridiculous question...
and it doesnt take that much brain power to put two and two .....
this is why so many members get mad because of stuff like this...
just search next time...
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or post on an existing thread that talks about problems with haykuros roms
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If you haven't noticed the Haykuro thread is getting new posts literally every minute. It is nearly impossible to get anything answered in there. I want to know WHY this is so. How does having applications on an SD card prevent the phone from booting if it isn't present?
I would like to see you make your own conclusion about why this is so. It may make sense just to think about it, but to explain it is another issue.
I don't think this was a ridiculous question, because it is something I want to know. Your answer however was quite rude.
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Actually, I believe I am one of the first to bring up this question. Why don't you go search the forums for something like this. I did, there was nothing relating to an issue like this.
Is everything related to the Android OS stored in the Android folder we put in the root of our SD card? Does the system create files elsewhere?
Basically I want to know if I wanted to get rid of all traces of Android off my phone, would it be as simple as deleting the "Android" folder? (using Froyostone)
Thanks.
Gigamaster89 said:
Is everything related to the Android OS stored in the Android folder we put in the root of our SD card? Does the system create files elsewhere?
Basically I want to know if I wanted to get rid of all traces of Android off my phone, would it be as simple as deleting the "Android" folder? (using Froyostone)
Thanks.
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Pretty much
Android makes some other folders outside the "android" folder itself. If you want to get rid of all traces of it, I would recommend you back up whatever you need off the sd card and format it through WM.
bates_1974 said:
Pretty much
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Wrong. Don't give out wrong information
to put it basically some android builds stay mostly in their own directory
and some are installed to the root of the sd card.
but other system files end up on your sd card too. also any apps you may have installed may save their own data to your sd card.
you could delete android and put a new build on and reinstall an app and it could read its old settings from a folder it made on your sd.
if you totally want to start from scratch you really wanna format the sd card.
my lazy way of doing it is to delete all the files and folders i see named in the new build im installing, and then seeing what files and folders seem androidy and deleting them too lol.
i guess im gonna get round to formatting sooner or later
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Wrong information?
you dumb ****, I said pretty much
If you delete your android folder common sense should prevail in which other folders it can create to delete typically ones in lower case or starting with .
He should know what folders he had, depending how much you've used android would determine what other folders are created, so like I said
PRETTY MUCH
bates_1974 said:
Wrong information?
you dumb ****, I said pretty much
If you delete your android folder common sense should prevail in which other folders it can create to delete typically ones in lower case or starting with .
He should know what folders he had, depending how much you've used android would determine what other folders are created, so like I said
PRETTY MUCH
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Evidently he doesn't know which other folders were created by running android. If he did, I'm pretty sure he wouldn't have asked
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Evidently he doesn't know which other folders were created by running android. If he did, I'm pretty sure he wouldn't have asked
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That's why we have a SEARCH button, it's there for a reason
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That's why we have a SEARCH button, it's there for a reason
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well obviously. My point is if you are going to attempt to answer a question, you might as well give an accurate answer as oppose to giving vague/wrong answers that don't help anyone. Or just don't comment
ummm hate to interrupt but at least agree / disagree with my post??? lol
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well obviously. My point is if you are going to attempt to answer a question, you might as well give an accurate answer as oppose to giving vague/wrong answers that don't help anyone. Or just don't comment
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Vague maybe, wrong not at all, all that's needed is a bit of common sense, if you and the OP can't figure that out I suggest you roll out that 3310 of yours.
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ummm hate to interrupt but at least agree / disagree with my post??? lol
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If you read my post after yours you'd see I outline the same route as you stated, agree.
Conflikt Icey said:
well obviously. My point is if you are going to attempt to answer a question, you might as well give an accurate answer as oppose to giving vague/wrong answers that don't help anyone. Or just don't comment
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You were about as useful the OP's question as he was..
As already mentioned, best thing to do is backup what you know you want and format it.
I think DontHate's nickname sums it pretty much all up... . Relax.
To go back to the initial question, you said "get rid of all traces" and to me it sounds like you want to take it to service or something like that, and don't want to show that you were messing about with it .
If that is the case, I don't think it will really matter what's on the card, more like you should revert back to your stock radio and stock WinMo rom.
remove thefollowing :
android folder
.android_secure
.bookmark_thumb1
.footprints
com.google.android.apps.maps - if you use it
tunnybrowser - dolphin hd browser
you might have some others dependant on what you have installed
Take it as a memory game.
Before placing any android files on the microSD card, take a mental snapshot of everything in the root directory of the card.
After usage, testing, the consequent removal of Android files need only be the files that weren't in the earlier mental snapshot.
That way, you get to improve your memory AND still use Android on your HD2 at the same time!?!?!??!?!
P.S. Do not forget the thumbnails folder in the DCIM folder.
I always simply delete the "Android" folder and haven't had any problems doing so.
I use Solid Explorer and am not rooted. When I look at ways to get to a "file" at root, I see:
Root/sdcard/file
Root/storage/sdcard0/file
Root/storage/emulated/legacy/file
Root/storage/emulated/internal memory/file
Root/mnt/sdcard/file
Why so many and what does it all mean? Can I delete any of the folders? Any of them open in my browser if the file is an html file with file:///
understand filefystem
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I use Solid Explorer and am not rooted. When I look at ways to get to a "file" at root, I see:
Root/sdcard/file
Root/storage/sdcard0/file
Root/storage/emulated/legacy/file
Root/storage/emulated/internal memory/file
Root/mnt/sdcard/file
Why so many and what does it all mean? Can I delete any of the folders? Any of them open in my browser if the file is an html file with file:///
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I would not recommend trying to delete any of the folders; most of them are basically symlinks, and deleting them will NOT reclaim storage. As to understanding the filesystem after the move to 'multi-user android 4.2', I have problems in that aspect myself. Indeed, on my (rooted) nexus, I have difficulties in getting my folders visible for other applications (where on 4.1 they were very visible indeed).
As one of the cracks on this forum, Chainfire, who releases the StickMount app, has similar problems (he has not been able to make StickMount work yet on Android 4.2), I guess there are some real questions out there.
Chances are, within the next few days or weeks, more is known about the way the filesystem is working, and perhaps tips as how to make it better will come floating about.
For now though, I would just "sit still" if I were you, and just ignore all the other ways, and just use one of them.
(And which one? I guess I would go for /sdcard/file myself...
Kind regards,
Roel
Happy I'm not the only one. Before the update "Root/storage/sdcard0/file" seemed to be the path. Now it looks like each app chooses it's path randomly. I would guess many developers are pulling their hair out (or cursing Google)
I think I've got my head round the symbolic links but can't, along with tcat007, understand the reasoning. Another question that I hope is proper here is "How does Windows 8 (and earlier) decide what is "Internal Storage" - I've got a subdirectory that can be seen through either the sdcard or storage paths but will not display in W8.
[Q] "Insufficient storage available"with so much space available, please help.
Hi before some of you out there start throwing rocks at me hear me out please(I mean it about the brilliant developers on the forum not disrespect intended)
Is a know fact one of the problem than the Nexus 7 (2012) have if this stupid idea of Google not letting us to move applications to the what is presented as a SD storage (I know is not sd card per se) and so far nobody have come with a reliable solution to solve it now the new Nexus is out and I think nobody is going to bother to look in to it.
There is few ways to do it for what i have read but most of them fail 80% of the time create partitions the use of S2E and so on. I haven't still manage to suscefuly do this in a simple and 100% effective move, there is always something I have try many options available and still i haven't manage to move anything last I tried was the upgrade to nakasi because they claim the solve also the lag but nothing is really improving on the applications part so I am back to CM10 and the rest of the gang.
Please don't write nasty answers or call me names that I already know if you going to write something make worth it for me and for many others in this situation, asking about how much music or videos or even applications I have because this is not really the problem this something with in the core. my Nexus is almost empty no pictures no videos no games.
Nexus 7 32Gb WiFi I was on stock ROM, although unlocked and rooted. Now CM10
I have barely anything left on my nexus - and its still giving the same message.
According to Internal Storage settings:
Total Space: 27.58 Gb
Currently 17.90Gb available
Apps - 532mb used 454 available *"ATTENTION TO THIS VALUE"
Pictures/videos - 748kb
Audio - 332kb
App Downloads - 9.6gb
Downloads 4.29 Mb
Cached data - 83.42Mb
I went into settings and cleared cached data too
Please Help and thanks
Why do you think you need the ability to move apps to SD storage?
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
Your post barely makes sense. And to say you're let down by fellow xda members because one of us hasn't jumped to "fix" something that only you seem to think is broken, is ludicrous.
You won't find any help here I'll bet with your "blame everyone for your own problems" attitude my friend.
After your thread title....I'm betting someone who could or has figured out how to help you would just keep walking.
K...I'm done. And you got my vote for most ridiculous thread of the month award!!!!
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BTW. USB drive. Problem solved!!!
You're welcome.
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oscaraperez, on the Nexus 7, the /sdcard folder is actually a symlink to a path in /data/media. It's on the same partition as everything else in /data -- which is to say, your applications. They share the same pool of storage. So there's really nothing to be gained by moving apps to /sdcard.
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All aboard the whingemill! Sounds like a classic example of PEBKAC (although there's not often a keyboard or chair involved in mobile-land).
I don't think you understand how storage works on Nexus devices. You don't move apps to the virtual /sdcard location because you run out of space on some kind of /apps partition. Stuff on a Nexus device is in an essentially unified block with the exception of /system, and if you're installing everything there, well, that's your problem.
If you're out of space, you're out of space. Your music/movies/apps matter because, newsflash, they're what go on your storage.
I solved his issue. (USB storage for media)......why didn't he thank me yet?
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kj2112 said:
I solved his issue. (USB storage for media)......why didn't he thank me yet?
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Plus you can use the FolderMount app, and otg-helper to link directories to your USB. I use it to run large games's obb files from the USB, which only leaves the small .akp file on the device. As you can see from the screenshot, I have about 9 gigs of apps on my 8 GB nexus 7. FolderMount is a great app.
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bluecarbon said:
Plus you can use the FolderMount app, and otg-helper to mount directories to your USB. I use it to run large games's obb files from the USB, which only leaves the small .akp file on the device. As you can see from the screenshot, I have about 9 gigs of apps on my 8 GB nexus 7. FolderMount is a great app.
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Oops forgot the screenshot.
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I am sorry I will try to change the title
The first think I said is "please before you start throwing rocks at me hear me out" and "Please don't write nasty answers or call me names that I already know if you going to write something make worth it".
Pirateghost you will see down below, thank you
khaytsus I will try my best to "Speak the speach" sorry, thank you
kj2112 you are a Senior member I think you are the one with the attitude just because I am a Junior member doesn't mean I don't know what I am talking about is plenty reference to this issue on Google have a look if you want before write such answer, there is even a couple of technical intented ways to work around but they don't work.
Is also a mention to this here ond XDA: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1837241 he is still waiting for help
There was a nice technical explanation on why Google is having this sort of restriction but I can't find it also explaining the issue about this trap memory
Perhaps the title is no very nice and I apologize for it and by the way I have no friends like you, your answer is just sad and prove your ignorance on this particular issue.
Rirere You misunderstand me ENTIRELY. Just because I may not be a programmer or a modder does NOT mean I am a complete idiot to technology
I thanks those one than are showing some interest on this and I will explain myself a little bit better because english is not my first language I will quote some others post around the web please bare with me and thank you to those than I using theirs remarks and even screen shots.
Nexus 7 32Gb WiFi I was on stock ROM, although unlocked and rooted. Now CM10
I have barely anything left on my nexus - and its still giving the same message.
According to Internal Storage settings:
Total Space: 27.58 Gb
Currently 17.90Gb available
Apps - 532mb used 454 free *"ATTENTION TO THIS VALUE"
Pictures/videos - 748kb
Audio - 332kb
App Downloads - 9.6gb
Downloads 4.29 Mb
Cached data - 83.42Mb
I went into settings and cleared cached data too?
I did a search and seen some advice on downloading app Trim (Lagfix). But I can't even download apps (insufficience space).
* I know Android needs 500MB of space free to work with. Every OS reserves memory for various reasons. What puzzles me - is that even when I have deleted lots of games/movies basically everithing already - its still saying insufficient space? Its like no space is freeing up. I've uninstalled/deleted most of the apps.
Even Trying to update some apps I am getting an insufficient storage error - but when I look with System Info I can see plenty of space, including the cache
kj2112, Rirere are you with me?
I know there is not and SD card per Se and the nexus use those 32GB space for everything That is the reason one of the recommendation somewhere was to create and mount a partition ext4 or ext3 and with the help of S2E move the aplication like a virtual external sd card to free some of the APP space
I am calling it SD card for the benefit of other juniors members like me in case they read this post
I try to partition my SD card using ROM manager but is not working. The idea is for the table to think that part of my SD card is create a partition on the SD card that acts like internal memory, not external memory. This partition must be in theformat ext partition.I like a large ext partition because I install a lot of apps. I have approximately 240 apps on my Titanium backup pro. I made the ext partition 1.9 GB.( is recomeded not to go more 2Gb) Note: This supposed to erase everything on the SD card so I backed up first. Benefit: The tablet thinks the ext partition on the SD card is internal memory I have tried to mount the ext partition even used my Ubuntu laptop and gparted and blah blah you guys got the idea better than me for sure because I just fallow others people recommendations.
S2E seem to be working but is clearly not since there is not a mounted "ext" I have also discover researching around than S2E is also having problems with the Nexus7 in particular I have try to contact the developer OlegKrikun but so far not answer meanwhile one guy claim he solve the issue inside the S2E application but din't work for me I have also tried link2sd whit no luck.
So maybe now I have explained myself a little bit better please be patient English is no my language you have some how to read betewnt the lines in resume:
- Out of memory (even after deleting every application)
- only a fresh flash clear everything
- creating this virtual space or ext partition will allow me to install and run few more application (like any other phone will allow me to move to external memory) expanding the 500Mb limitation I know a little bit how the Nexus storage work Rirere
- jfmcbrayer I disagree with you unless I am doing something else wrong the benefit of moving app to this virtual sd (ext Partition) will allow me to install many more aplications.
- kj2112 I can't thank you because you have been plain rude and not helpful.
- bluecarbon thank I was doing that but as you can see there is some other kind of issue my Nexus is almos empty and still is giving me the storage error
Anyway thanks to those than really want to help and I am sorry I will try to change the title
I din't wanted to make personal
As for the tittle: "I am a bit let down by my fellow forum members" is dedicate to you kj2112 and the member like you ... you got my vote for most ridiculous thread reply of the month award!!!! put you effort in helping and not in make me look stupid.
Is 3:15 here in my country I apologized if was a bit rude and cut it short
I have yet to see a compelling reason for moving apps to storage. You have the whole thing confused. Your apps all reside in /data except for the ROM which resides in/system. The link you posted has absolutely nothing to do with what you are talking about.
I think you are confused on how the system works and are causing more harm than good trying to circumvent the way Android works.
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I won't quote your huge post OP.....and frankly, I am not concerned with your issue or a solution. I'm concerned with you suggesting XDA members have let YOU down by not resolving your issue.
I don't care about storage issues, and most others aren't either....there are many ways to boost your storage....without an SD card.
If you look at my profile....and please do....you'll see I have however many posts....and almost half that number in thanks given to me. Not bragging at all.....just pointing out that I'm a productive and helpful member here at xda and have the thanks to prove it.
So again......blaming your fellow xda members for not solving your issue is not going to win you any respect here....and will make it even harder for you to find help in the future.
My suggestion.....type please delete as your thread title.....change all your posts here to simply "delete".......then politely ask a moderator to delete this thread before too many see it, or anyone looks at your profile and sees it.
It's called damage control.
Thank you and have a nice day.
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weedilu SYSTEM
kj2112 said:
I won't quote your huge post OP.....and frankly, I am not concerned with your issue or a solution. I'm concerned with you suggesting XDA members have let YOU down by not resolving your issue.
I don't care about storage issues, and most others aren't either....there are many ways to boost your storage....without an SD card.
If you look at my profile....and please do....you'll see I have however many posts....and almost half that number in thanks given to me. Not bragging at all.....just pointing out that I'm a productive and helpful member here at xda and have the thanks to prove it.
So again......blaming your fellow xda members for not solving your issue is not going to win you any respect here....and will make it even harder for you to find help in the future.
My suggestion.....type please delete as your thread title.....change all your posts here to simply "delete".......then politely ask a moderator to delete this thread before too many see it, or anyone looks at your profile and sees it.
It's called damage control.
Thank you and have a nice day.
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You still not reading about my issue, now you just not happy about my comment towards you and I already apologize for the title I can't change now and I will not delete my post because it is an issue for me and I asking for help to solve it I notice how many people appreciate your help 503 thanks that is very nice, but that is no my case you were rude to me and I am entitle to my opinion just like you. If you don't care about my problem is fine perhap one day I have a problem than interes you and you may feel like helping me
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Pirateghost said:
I have yet to see a compelling reason for moving apps to storage. You have the whole thing confused. Your apps all reside in /data except for the ROM which resides in/system. The link you posted has absolutely nothing to do with what you are talking about.
I think you are confused on how the system works and are causing more harm than good trying to circumvent the way Android works.
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I most be really wrong here but he is reporting the same problem "No space" even if is no true, sorry I am missing something beyond my capabilities.
please be so kind to explain to me how I still have "Insufficient storage available" message on app update or installations with so much space available
Dear Moderator
Dear Moderator Could you please change the tittle of my post to: Nexus 7 "Insufficient storage available" message on app update or installations with so much space available, please help.
Some members found the original one a bit harsh and I don't want to offend anyone I have try myself but couldn't therefore my apologies on the first post
Thanks
oscaraperez said:
Dear Moderator Could you please change the tittle of my post to: Nexus 7 Insufficient space error messagebut is not true, please help.
Some members found the original one a bit harsh and I don't want to offend anyone I have try myself but couldn't therefore my apologies on the first post
Thanks
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Edit it yourself.
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oscaraperez said:
Dear Moderator Could you please change the tittle of my post to: Nexus 7 "Insufficient storage available" message on app update or installations with so much space available, please help.
Some members found the original one a bit harsh and I don't want to offend anyone I have try myself but couldn't therefore my apologies on the first post
Thanks
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Edit your first post....you can change the title too.
I told you a work around for storage problems, as did others. USB sticks/drives BTW.
Again.....its not that I am not interested in your issue.....I just didn't like the apparent tone of your title....there are many people here that seem to blame other members and especially rom devs for their problems. And most issues on this entire forum are due to not following instructions and not reading through threads for tips and warnings.
So I apologize for coming across harsh....but its a sore spot for many members here. A lot of people seem to have a sense of entitlement here and are too lazy to read threads, opening posts for roms and even the xda rules. It just gets some people's backs up....like my own.
So good luck with your issue and I'd help more, but aside from storage self management and/or USB storage.....I have no other ideas.
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oscaraperez said:
I most be really wrong here but he is reporting the same problem "No space" even if is no true, sorry I am missing something beyond my capabilities.
please be so kind to explain to me how I still have "Insufficient storage available" message on app update or installations with so much space available
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By the way....sounds to me like your system partition is full. That's totally different than your virtual sd card.....which means all you can do is get rid of some big games and apps.
Correct me if I'm wrong someone ....I know my s2's inner workings much more than my N7.
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kj2112 said:
Edit your first post....you can change the title too.
I told you a work around for storage problems, as did others. USB sticks/drives BTW.
Again.....its not that I am not interested in your issue.....I just didn't like the apparent tone of your title....there are many people here that seem to blame other members and especially rom devs for their problems. And most issues on this entire forum are due to not following instructions and not reading through threads for tips and warnings.
So I apologize for coming across harsh....but its a sore spot for many members here. A lot of people seem to have a sense of entitlement here and are too lazy to read threads, opening posts for roms and even the xda rules. It just gets some people's backs up....like my own.
So good luck with your issue and I'd help more, but aside from storage self management and/or USB storage.....I have no other ideas.
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Done thanks
I am not blaming anybody here this is a google even if you guys don't believe me I have plenty space available I have basically unistalled and deleted and clean everything as far as I capable there is no need for storage management here if you notice on the details of my storage. Men I wish I can find again the reference to this problem on the other forum I'll keep looking.
similar problem: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1877916
Well thanks and again my apologies for the old title to you and all the others
oscaraperez said:
Rirere You misunderstand me ENTIRELY. Just because I may not be a programmer or a modder does NOT mean I am a complete idiot to technology
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You don't have to be a "complete idiot" to create your own problems. PEBKAC implies a lot more about a user's attitude than their technical proficiency, and although you've been gracious enough to fix the title, it's still pretty evident from your first post that your initial approach was pretty damn lacking. You don't walk up to people, insult them with a backhanded remark, and then blame them for not helping you.
oscaraperez said:
I have barely anything left on my nexus - and its still giving the same message.
According to Internal Storage settings:
Total Space: 27.58 Gb
Currently 17.90Gb available
Apps - 532mb used 454 free *"ATTENTION TO THIS VALUE"
Pictures/videos - 748kb
Audio - 332kb
App Downloads - 9.6gb
Downloads 4.29 Mb
Cached data - 83.42Mb
I went into settings and cleared cached data too?
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I'm going to call it and say you screwed up a flash somewhere along the line. None of the stock Android devices I own (or any of the test devices at my workplace) have an entry for "free" data outside of the primary report at the top. It sounds like somewhere, you actually physically partitioned off /data or created a virtual container for it. I certainly can't remember ever seeing this issue in Cyanogenmod by default anywhere, and I've used it for a while.
oscaraperez said:
I did a search and seen some advice on downloading app Trim (Lagfix). But I can't even download apps (insufficience space).
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Lagfix is an implementation of fstrim, which marks deleted blocks as no longer in use by the filesystem. But it's not a tool designed to increase free storage space. Your OS knows and realizes that it's got space available. fstrim just politely notifies your memory controller that such is the case.
oscaraperez said:
* I know Android needs 500MB of space free to work with. Every OS reserves memory for various reasons. What puzzles me - is that even when I have deleted lots of games/movies basically everithing already - its still saying insufficient space? Its like no space is freeing up. I've uninstalled/deleted most of the apps.
Even Trying to update some apps I am getting an insufficient storage error - but when I look with System Info I can see plenty of space, including the cache
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Android doesn't "need" 500MB free, but like any UNIX/LINUX-similar system, Android wants space available so it can page to disk. However, it will pull this silently from elsewhere in the filesystem and it would just slow down if you were truly out of space.
oscaraperez said:
kj2112, Rirere are you with me?
I know there is not and SD card per Se and the nexus use those 32GB space for everything That is the reason one of the recommendation somewhere was to create and mount a partition ext4 or ext3 and with the help of S2E move the aplication like a virtual external sd card to free some of the APP space
I am calling it SD card for the benefit of other juniors members like me in case they read this post
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Good intentions, bad idea. When people who don't know what's going on try to use technical labels to describe a problem, it just makes things harder for anyone to help you.
oscaraperez said:
I try to partition my SD card using ROM manager but is not working. The idea is for the table to think that part of my SD card is create a partition on the SD card that acts like internal memory, not external memory. This partition must be in theformat ext partition.I like a large ext partition because I install a lot of apps. I have approximately 240 apps on my Titanium backup pro. I made the ext partition 1.9 GB.( is recomeded not to go more 2Gb) Note: This supposed to erase everything on the SD card so I backed up first. Benefit: The tablet thinks the ext partition on the SD card is internal memory I have tried to mount the ext partition even used my Ubuntu laptop and gparted and blah blah you guys got the idea better than me for sure because I just fallow others people recommendations.
S2E seem to be working but is clearly not since there is not a mounted "ext" I have also discover researching around than S2E is also having problems with the Nexus7 in particular I have try to contact the developer OlegKrikun but so far not answer meanwhile one guy claim he solve the issue inside the S2E application but din't work for me I have also tried link2sd whit no luck.
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In order to mount your device's partitions on an external device, you would need to configure the onboard MTP to expose more partitions than /sdcard. Since what you're describing isn't default behavior (read: shouldn't be happening), you should stop mucking around with partitions and reflash completely to stock. Since you've created partitions already though, that's not as easy as it would be otherwise.
oscaraperez said:
So maybe now I have explained myself a little bit better please be patient English is no my language you have some how to read betewnt the lines in resume:
- Out of memory (even after deleting every application)
- only a fresh flash clear everything
- creating this virtual space or ext partition will allow me to install and run few more application (like any other phone will allow me to move to external memory) expanding the 500Mb limitation I know a little bit how the Nexus storage work Rirere
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If you knew "a little bit," you would not be trying to create partitions, virtual or otherwise. Your internal table is screwed up if this is happening, and I definitely can't recall ever having this issue with Cyanogenmod based ROMs.
oscaraperez said:
- jfmcbrayer I disagree with you unless I am doing something else wrong the benefit of moving app to this virtual sd (ext Partition) will allow me to install many more aplications.
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Even if you were doing it right, it would have precious little bearing on how Android is supposed to work by default. The new unified filestructures were introduced in 4.0.x to solve this issue.
Bottom line, revert your partitions back to stock. I don't think can emphasize enough that trying to fix a non-existent problem without fully understanding the underlying technology-- and I mean fully-- causes far more problems than it tends to solve.
Please leave alone men I need help to solve the problem
Rirere said:
You don't have to be a "complete idiot" to create your own problems. PEBKAC implies a lot more about a user's attitude than their technical proficiency, and although you've been gracious enough to fix the title, it's still pretty evident from your first post that your initial approach was pretty damn lacking. You don't walk up to people, insult them with a backhanded remark, and then blame them for not helping you.
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WOW thanks you definetly a nice guy I can see that I din't create any problem the message is there for "insufficient storage space" the rest I try it afterward I have flash and reflash 2 time stock 2 times CM10 and after some time is back
Rirere said:
I'm going to call it and say you screwed up a flash somewhere along the line. None of the stock Android devices I own (or any of the test devices at my workplace) have an entry for "free" data outside of the primary report at the top. It sounds like somewhere, you actually physically partitioned off /data or created a virtual container for it. I certainly can't remember ever seeing this issue in Cyanogenmod by default anywhere, and I've used it for a while.
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right now I can't update the applications and free space value is clearly state at the bottom right of Storage/Apps/Running
Rirere said:
Lagfix is an implementation of fstrim, which marks deleted blocks as no longer in use by the filesystem. But it's not a tool designed to increase free storage space. Your OS knows and realizes that it's got space available. fstrim just politely notifies your memory controller that such is the case.
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I agree with you here I was try some others recommendation but not harm doneby this
Rirere said:
Android doesn't "need" 500MB free, but like any UNIX/LINUX-similar system, Android wants space available so it can page to disk. However, it will pull this silently from elsewhere in the filesystem and it would just slow down if you were truly out of space.
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There is many reference to this requirement whether is silently or not at the end of the day after going under the 500Mb the problems start sorry for my lack of technical explanation I din't know that part
Rirere said:
Good intentions, bad idea. When people who don't know what's going on try to use technical labels to describe a problem, it just makes things harder for anyone to help you.
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And you are not really helping by attacking me post like you steer others away from even trying to help
Rirere said:
In order to mount your device's partitions on an external device, you would need to configure the onboard MTP to expose more partitions than /sdcard. Since what you're describing isn't default behavior (read: shouldn't be happening), you should stop mucking around with partitions and reflash completely to stock. Since you've created partitions already though, that's not as easy as it would be otherwise.
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the partition were never created as I mention before I couldn't do it
Rirere said:
If you knew "a little bit," you would not be trying to create partitions, virtual or otherwise. Your internal table is screwed up if this is happening, and I definitely can't recall ever having this issue with Cyanogenmod based ROMs.
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What can I say is happening to me and few others google it
Rirere said:
Bottom line, revert your partitions back to stock. I don't think can emphasize enough that trying to fix a non-existent problem without fully understanding the underlying technology-- and I mean fully-- causes far more problems than it tends to solve.
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You quote some of my comment conveniently avoiding others
I reflash to CM10 I have no partion there is nothing screw up because of my wrong doing but I still have the same error I just try to get help to solve went some body is drowning you don't throw rocks at them I make a mistake on the title and I change it and apologize but you still found more issues just take for what it is a grammatical error and error of translation from my language (brain) in to yours. If you can't do anything else but to offend me why don't you just forget about this post and move on let me be a soon I find more reference to this problems i will keep updating the post whit the links hopping for some body to come along a notice and perhaps help me and help the others with this issue.
I know than I no making myself understood but why people don't just come any other explanation about my apparent lack of space and is not true I have no games no music no pictures only few applications.
Some others working with some phones with integrated memory have encounter this issue and solve it with partitions but is not working on the nexus7 why I have no the option to do so like the others and then like them have the option back to move the application on the "App info page" I have and HTC OneX on that phone I can move the application somewhere ( called it virtual external card for example) I use SDMove I have plenty space and after almost 2 years I have never run out of space including music videos games etc how this work How HTC work around this if you can help I will appreciate it
Thanks
Just got one of these and immediately rooted it. I bought a thumb drive and side loaded stuck mount, I'm able to read and write, but how can I move let's say, MC5 and Nova 3 or whatever else to the USB drive and still the games? What am I missing? I've searched and scanned through these forums and haven't found my answer. Is this just not possible on this thing yet? If it isn't, than what's the point of this thing? What was google thinking putting 8GB on this? As if memory is so expensive nowadays.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-player/help/nexus-player-starter-guide-t3002814
Should I rename my thread, maybe it doesn't stand out enough...?
FolderMount...
midnightzak said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-player/help/nexus-player-starter-guide-t3002814
Should I rename my thread, maybe it doesn't stand out enough...?
FolderMount...
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Thanks, I have already purchased the pro features to folder mount, dammit I forgot about it though, thanks again, and no, keep the thread title the same, I already opened your thread, I was just being lazy and didn't wanna read, not like me, just don't have time, but I'm off tomorrow so it's on.