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Comment 559 by af9210, Today (2 hours ago)
will the feature require a certain class speed sd card
Comment 564 by [email protected], Today (28 minutes ago)
@559 - As with any software which needs to do a lot of I/O - the faster the card the
better.
Delete comment Comment 565 by af9210, Today (8 minutes ago)
@564 i understand... do you have knowledge about how it will be implemented..... for
instance do we need to create a separate partition ie ext2 ext4 etc?
Comment 566 by [email protected], Today (1 minute ago)
@565 - We've gone to a lot of effort to ensure you *don't* have to repartition / format your cards for this to work. We coexist with the existing FAT32 partition on the card to ensure compatibility with your existing cards/devices.
sounds pretty good development by the android team huh
sounds good but if i remember correctly the reason the community a2sd devs make it so you have to use an ext partition was to help prevent piracy, and of course have your phone usable when the sdcard was mounted by the pc. i wonder if google came up with a new type of copy protection.
godsfilth said:
sounds good but if i remember correctly the reason the community a2sd devs make it so you have to use an ext partition was to help prevent piracy, and of course have your phone usable when the sdcard was mounted by the pc. i wonder if google came up with a new type of copy protection.
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However Ext partitions don't stop you pirating.
I can still get ALL of the installed apps off my phone if I need to and that's using my phone. No special software needed as such (nothing that's not free on the market anyway).
Yup, sounds like a new encryption method.
Yep, noone can boot up an ubuntu cd and mount the ext partition...
More likely it's because fat32 can't handle linux style file permissions.
godsfilth said:
sounds good but if i remember correctly the reason the community a2sd devs make it so you have to use an ext partition was to help prevent piracy, and of course have your phone usable when the sdcard was mounted by the pc. i wonder if google came up with a new type of copy protection.
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They could install protected apps onto internal flash - as they do now. Most of apps aren't protected, so we'll still have a lot of additional space.
My theory is that rather than a separate partition, it'll just create a file of xx amount of size on the mem card, then fill it up. It'll probably be somewhat of a safe measure, as it'll most likely be encrypted and of a filetype that isn't common (or it could even be some kind of internal compression method such as zip, but a self written program).
They said they wouldnt do it until they figure out a way to encrypt it.
Ill take it thats what they did.
Yeah, they did say it would not come till they hashed out some piracy measures, not that they will help whatsoever, but they did say that.
I don't understand what the big deal is.
Couldn't they have just done Apps2SD for all free apps and called it a day?
No one is purchasing 500 megabytes worth of apps.
Offloading all the free ones to the SD = BOOM.
Easy and would have absolutely zero consequences on piracy.
Current methods have no consequences on piracy, future methods have no consequences on piracy. Hopefully the gave up worrying about something they can never stop.
GldRush98 said:
Current methods have no consequences on piracy, future methods have no consequences on piracy. Hopefully the gave up worrying about something they can never stop.
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What is this word you speak of piracy, never heard of it
GldRush98 said:
Current methods have no consequences on piracy, future methods have no consequences on piracy. Hopefully the gave up worrying about something they can never stop.
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Ever heard of cloud computing?
Paul22000 said:
I don't understand what the big deal is.
Couldn't they have just done Apps2SD for all free apps and called it a day?
No one is purchasing 500 megabytes worth of apps.
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That is a very bold statement to make.
Once you can install applications to your sdcard, what's to stop you from purchasing ONE program that is, by itself, 500 MB?
Has anyone encountered a problem as far as apps that are able to move to sd and then disappearing from app menu? As well as icons on homescreen turning to android generic icons? I can still access the apps from homescreen ,manage apps and astro but as i said the icon for the app on the home screen changes to somewhat of a generic looking android icon. One of the apps in question is titanium backup.
Now if i go to manage apps and place apps back to phone everything reappears in its rightful spot. Could it be a temp glitch in froyo? Some setting i might have missed? Any info would be appreciated...thnx
Yes it happened to me, every applications I moved on the sdcard suddenly disappeared from the menu. I had to move one of them on the phone to make them all reappear. As I don't have so much applications installed (~25), I moved them all back to the phone until this is fixed
Lemim0uth said:
Yes it happened to me, every applications I moved on the sdcard suddenly disappeared from the menu. I had to move one of them on the phone to make them all reappear. As I don't have so much applications installed (~25), I moved them all back to the phone until this is fixed
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cool, thnx for the response. Least i know i didnt screw something up lol.
Drane said:
Ever heard of cloud computing?
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100% irrelevant to this thread and what I was talking about.
Is everything related to the Android OS stored in the Android folder we put in the root of our SD card? Does the system create files elsewhere?
Basically I want to know if I wanted to get rid of all traces of Android off my phone, would it be as simple as deleting the "Android" folder? (using Froyostone)
Thanks.
Gigamaster89 said:
Is everything related to the Android OS stored in the Android folder we put in the root of our SD card? Does the system create files elsewhere?
Basically I want to know if I wanted to get rid of all traces of Android off my phone, would it be as simple as deleting the "Android" folder? (using Froyostone)
Thanks.
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Pretty much
Android makes some other folders outside the "android" folder itself. If you want to get rid of all traces of it, I would recommend you back up whatever you need off the sd card and format it through WM.
bates_1974 said:
Pretty much
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Wrong. Don't give out wrong information
to put it basically some android builds stay mostly in their own directory
and some are installed to the root of the sd card.
but other system files end up on your sd card too. also any apps you may have installed may save their own data to your sd card.
you could delete android and put a new build on and reinstall an app and it could read its old settings from a folder it made on your sd.
if you totally want to start from scratch you really wanna format the sd card.
my lazy way of doing it is to delete all the files and folders i see named in the new build im installing, and then seeing what files and folders seem androidy and deleting them too lol.
i guess im gonna get round to formatting sooner or later
Conflikt Icey said:
Wrong. Don't give out wrong information
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Wrong information?
you dumb ****, I said pretty much
If you delete your android folder common sense should prevail in which other folders it can create to delete typically ones in lower case or starting with .
He should know what folders he had, depending how much you've used android would determine what other folders are created, so like I said
PRETTY MUCH
bates_1974 said:
Wrong information?
you dumb ****, I said pretty much
If you delete your android folder common sense should prevail in which other folders it can create to delete typically ones in lower case or starting with .
He should know what folders he had, depending how much you've used android would determine what other folders are created, so like I said
PRETTY MUCH
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Evidently he doesn't know which other folders were created by running android. If he did, I'm pretty sure he wouldn't have asked
Conflikt Icey said:
Evidently he doesn't know which other folders were created by running android. If he did, I'm pretty sure he wouldn't have asked
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That's why we have a SEARCH button, it's there for a reason
bates_1974 said:
That's why we have a SEARCH button, it's there for a reason
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well obviously. My point is if you are going to attempt to answer a question, you might as well give an accurate answer as oppose to giving vague/wrong answers that don't help anyone. Or just don't comment
ummm hate to interrupt but at least agree / disagree with my post??? lol
Conflikt Icey said:
well obviously. My point is if you are going to attempt to answer a question, you might as well give an accurate answer as oppose to giving vague/wrong answers that don't help anyone. Or just don't comment
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Vague maybe, wrong not at all, all that's needed is a bit of common sense, if you and the OP can't figure that out I suggest you roll out that 3310 of yours.
DontHate said:
ummm hate to interrupt but at least agree / disagree with my post??? lol
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If you read my post after yours you'd see I outline the same route as you stated, agree.
Conflikt Icey said:
well obviously. My point is if you are going to attempt to answer a question, you might as well give an accurate answer as oppose to giving vague/wrong answers that don't help anyone. Or just don't comment
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You were about as useful the OP's question as he was..
As already mentioned, best thing to do is backup what you know you want and format it.
I think DontHate's nickname sums it pretty much all up... . Relax.
To go back to the initial question, you said "get rid of all traces" and to me it sounds like you want to take it to service or something like that, and don't want to show that you were messing about with it .
If that is the case, I don't think it will really matter what's on the card, more like you should revert back to your stock radio and stock WinMo rom.
remove thefollowing :
android folder
.android_secure
.bookmark_thumb1
.footprints
com.google.android.apps.maps - if you use it
tunnybrowser - dolphin hd browser
you might have some others dependant on what you have installed
Take it as a memory game.
Before placing any android files on the microSD card, take a mental snapshot of everything in the root directory of the card.
After usage, testing, the consequent removal of Android files need only be the files that weren't in the earlier mental snapshot.
That way, you get to improve your memory AND still use Android on your HD2 at the same time!?!?!??!?!
P.S. Do not forget the thumbnails folder in the DCIM folder.
I always simply delete the "Android" folder and haven't had any problems doing so.
I hope Microsoft reads this, but I hope the developers can accomplish this, here are some ideas:
Have WP7 use internal memory for its main functions/rom, make the SD card available for programs, games, music, photos, videos etc...
This whole "making the sd as part of the phone" or striping data accros is way too sensitive. As I already experienced, this striping is very sensitive and the chain can easily be broken [as with a raid0(striping) storage system on a PC].
Also a ledgable partition to the os would be a plus (fat32, ntfs or even ext).
With this method the data on the sd card does not get lost each time the phone malfunctions/the storrage system gets disconected.
This is one of the major negative points with wp7, otherwise I really like it a lot, even for my business it just seems easier and better to navigat than wm 6.5.x.
What are other peoples thoughts??
Can the developer (if Microsoft refuses) accomlplish that???
P.s. Let me know ifmy threads are in the wrong Forum, but I thought both threads are valid ponts in regards to development and WP7 nand/rom issues.
OK, sorry for that, but I think maybe this one should be in the Q&A section??
If we get a future build that is
Usefull features
I do agree WP7 works great on HD2. There are some issues I would like to raise though:
1. I was unable to add custom TTF Fonts, like in WM6.5 to be able to read in Georgian.
2. Interactive USSD Feature does not work. That is, you can enable certain features that operator provides through *xxx# combination. I do not know if that works in original WP&, but in DFT release when the interactice menu comes up, the keyboard is locked, so there is no way to choose the desired option.
If anyone know answer to either issue please reply.
I dont think its a really big deal and it works the way they want it to, its almost like a hard drive that is built for the phone only. Microsoft will be releasing an updated WP7 that even includes the copy paste fuction. Maybe they can include the ability to send contacts, but since WP7 isnt open source I do not see any customization if much at all happening.
Except all the known issues, i'd like to have 2 improvement on the keyboard;
-Make the keyboard larger, there is some unused space on the right and left side of the keyboard.
-I'd like the keyboard to vibrate when buttons are pushed
i dont really think MS will see this
if you do want to give feedback find Windows phone on facebook or twitter where they have posted a short questionnaire and feedback box thats the place to do it
i dont really care about the SD card. Its one thing less to buy after you buy it. And this way you wont have any issues with damaging the card.
Windows Phone 7 wasnt designed for removable SD cards. It was intended for real internal storage though manufacturers went cheap for the first gen which is quite disappointing as if they used normal flash storage i think the performance would have been far better and the whole over blown deal with the SD card thing wouldn't have existed in the first place
evolutionqy7 said:
i dont really think MS will see this
if you do want to give feedback find Windows phone on facebook or twitter where they have posted a short questionnaire and feedback box thats the place to do it
i dont really care about the SD card. Its one thing less to buy after you buy it. And this way you wont have any issues with damaging the card.
Windows Phone 7 wasnt designed for removable SD cards. It was intended for real internal storage though manufacturers went cheap for the first gen which is quite disappointing as if they used normal flash storage i think the performance would have been far better and the whole over blown deal with the SD card thing wouldn't have existed in the first place
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I agree. 16gb of internal nand storage would be awesome and more reliable. An extra sd card would be cool also just so one can quickly copy/read pics and docs etc wihout having to install zune software.
ive been having quite a few major issues with WP7. its a shame because i do like it.
The main one being that every now and again it will restart by itself but sometimes it will do kind of a "hard reset" where everything goes back to factory settings, however if you restart it, it will go back to normal. i dont know if thats something to do with the SD card or something else??
ksingh86 said:
ive been having quite a few major issues with WP7. its a shame because i do like it.
The main one being that every now and again it will restart by itself but sometimes it will do kind of a "hard reset" where everything goes back to factory settings, however if you restart it, it will go back to normal. i dont know if thats something to do with the SD card or something else??
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This happened to me until I changed my SD card...
Well, I changed sd card and tried without. A full factory reset did the trick though. Seems like something weired is going on with the internal storage (I did a factory reset flashing from sd card).
My biggest concerns about wp7
1- No Copy and Paste
2- No fast multitask (like alt+tab)
3- No T9 dialpad
But the biggest is:
4- NO GOOGLE CONTACTS GOOD SYNC. Many of my contacts have multiple cellphones, and WP7 (also wm6.x) doesn't recognize them... Does anyone have an workaround?
5- Few medical apps (no Skyscape, Epocrates, or offline Uptodate...)
6- No apps folder...
Hope MS is watching this post!
Ok... I have been a member for awhile, reading this and that...
I have been using WM based phones ever since i could remember (minus a small sidekick phase). So, when I found out that WM7 wasnt avail for my HD2... I was quite upset.
I decided to take the plunge and try Android for my SD card. W O W!!!!
Very fast, & functionable. I have stayed away for installing roms and such because of their instability. But this is absolutely beautiful.
Now i haven't updated to the new release that came out this morning, and was wondering if i should because i have been having some small issues.
1. When running WM6.5 since the install, i have had a problem with messages updating on main screen, don't know if it is related or not.
2. This was a fresh install of WM6.5 along with an SD card format. I am not allowed to store any info on card anymore. It's a 16g card, and I don't like to waste space. I no longer have a place for my tunes..... not cool. Not to mention can't store pics, and all the movies I burned via DVDFab.
3. Now I have read that there is a way to 'partition' my SD card, but there are so many ways to do this. I would like to do this with the best way/program so i dont fry my card. Link to the most stable way of doing this would be appreciated.
4. Now as impressed with AmeriCanAndriod as I am.. I have a question about the lockscreen... It is NOT about it's size/fullscreen as i have read on here... But when i walk away and it appearantly locks itself, it goes BLACK. the buttons on the device still light up, but screen will not activate and i have to end up pulling the battery. I have read that this is not advisable since shutting down is where the OS saves it's data to the SD card itself.
Yes, I am as green as it comes to this, but I am not a complete fool. I do try and look up issues pertaining to my problems. I can strip a PC down and rebuild it again in minutes, but phones are new to my tinkering. I love my HD2, and love all the things I have read I can do with it.
I understand that the forced close issue has been rectified in the build released this morning. Can this be confirmed????
Also will I be able to save the data.img and restore my apps and settings i have installed if I want to update to the new release?
Partitioning the SD... Will it cause me to reformat card and have to re-install Andoid on phone?
LASTLY..... Thank You to the AmeriCanAndroid Tean for making a beautiful OS that can easily be installed. Having a dual boot system is perfect for me. All the power and funtionabilty of WM & all the fun of Android. You couldn't ask for more. All the talent in this OS truly shows in this streamless, beautiful, user friendly system.
~Bdwlf2~
First off, this is not the place where to post. You should post in the builds own thread located here. Second i know that black screen happens to me as well but what i do is leave it for about 3 min on standby and its cleared up by then. Make sure to have the latest build from the thread mentioned above. And yes you will be able to keep the same data.img from the previous release unless specified. Partition yes you will format but simply drag and your Android folder to your desktop and once you're done drag it back in simple.
Thank You for the reply. I was going to post in the AmeriCanAndroid thread, but since this is my first post. I had a popup tell me I had to post HERE, instead of that thread until I reach 10 posts.
If a Moderator wishes to move this, I have no problems with that. I wanted to post where it was most relevant in the first place. I just want to be able to reply without the 'newbe' restrictions.
Relieved that I can save my things, by saving the data.img file.
Partitioning, would love a link to the best/safest method.
Blackscreen.. So I just hit a button and leave it for awhile? That's not very practical if I had a buisness call to make, or an emergency. Is there a workaround? Can I shut off the Auto Lock?
What folder do I add music, ringtones, movies and other goodies to? Can WM 7 Android share these same files? (as long as they're not OS specific obviously)
Ah, i see your reasoning, no problem. A good guide on partitioning that i used as well can be found here. And well there inst really a fix to the black screen problem and i haven't searched for one since it only happens on boot of Android. What seems to make it come back faster for me is locking and unlocking the phone quickly. And you can just place a folder and name it anything you want on the root of the SD card. Heck you can put all your mp3,photos,documents on the root of the SD card and Android will still pick them up, it doesn't matter. And when you say "Share" do you mean Bluetooth sending? Then yes, you can.
Nope... SD card will not let me install anything while i was hook to puter. I was running WM at the time, not android. That shouldn't have been a problem. I am about to hook SD card directly to copmuter itself and copy files that way.
I have had all music located on card before this install, nicely organized by artist or genre, along with my movies, pics, etc. But wont allow me to do this now. I am little confused about that, unless android locked SD/root to android application only. Since most programs that lock things usually prompt you for user allowances, which i did not see, i am ruling that out as an option. Phones and computers are very similar as i am finding out.
The blackscreen doesn't occur on Droid boot... It happens when it sleeps, hibernates, or whatever you call it. Can not wake it from this state.
The Data.img.... Do i put that in after i update and run android, or do i put it in the very begining when i copy droid folder to SD card?
Thanx
~Bdwlf2~
Yup, android put a 'write protect' on SD card. Trying some format tools now. Had to put a re-partiton on it to get rid of protection, which made it a Bad Disk. So trying a recovery on it now. I refuse to be beatin by an object smaller than my thumbnail. Arrrgh!
Android does not lock the SD card to application only, that's very odd that you cant copy files to the SD card. Maybe its a setting on your computer that wont allow you? And about the black screen problem, there seems to be no one reporting about that on the thread as far i can see. Are you running SetCPU or a Task Killer by any chance? Those make Android behave very odd. If not i would suggest downloading the latest build again and formatting your SD Card and putting Android on it again. You can also move your stuff your desktop and put it back again. About the Data.img, you don't really need to move it anywhere. When there is a new update to the build, i simply extract the contents of the new build to the Android folder on my SD card and over write. Simplest method I've seen yet.
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Yup, android put a 'write protect' on SD card. Trying some format tools now. Had to put a re-partiton on it to get rid of protection, which made it a Bad Disk. So trying a recovery on it now. I refuse to be beatin by an object smaller than my thumbnail. Arrrgh!
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That seems very odd. I've been using this build since February 24th and it has never locked up like that. But nonetheless you found a fix, good work.
No, not running any of those programs. I have extensively swapped data with this card numerous times.
I checked all setting in android prior to putting into puter. In therory, android should NOT write protect the disk, but something did. I have read this happening to others just in XDA forums alone.
Just got disk back to the "good" state using MiniTool Power Data Recovery... Let's take a peek as to see if it works correctly now.
Hmmmm... I think I should have used, repair damage partiton after recovery... still not working.
***scratches head***
I may need another cup of coffee for this.
How about a simple reformat?
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Nope. Tried that.
Windows formatter - no
SD formatter - no
Mini tool -nada
MyDefrag - not
Test disk - running now... pending
Try to reformat the SD from Windows Mobile?
Yup, first option....
Would go partially thru it, then stop. Worked fine yesterday. This starting to become un-nerving.
I will find a way. There is always a way. Unless something shorts/melts/breaks/ or fry's... there is always a way. Just a matter of correct knowedge and tool combination.
bdwlf2 said:
Yup, first option....
Would go partially thru it, then stop. Worked fine yesterday. This starting to become un-nerving.
I will find a way. There is always a way. Unless something shorts/melts/breaks/ or fry's... there is always a way. Just a matter of correct knowedge and tool combination.
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Alright good luck.
Trying HDD Regenerator v2011
Seems to be doing something, using limited Demo mode. At least it is identifying the bad sectors.
This one is gonna take awhile. If it works, or i find something that does, I will post. I've read other's have had this problem, and I can save the person buying/tossing out cards.... Then the work is worth it.
57min into it and only scanned 11mb????? This may be a month to scan 16g. If my math is correct. That's 1gig (1000mb) / 11per hour = 90.90hrs to complete 1g of scanning, multiplied by 15 (usable gigs) = 1363.6363hrs or 51.81 days? 51 days to complete scan?!?!?!?! Gonna look for another program. Wow.
Good thing I have a small 2g card. Unfortunately it won't hold 1/2 of my music. Argh, and I just put a 2 HD movies on there.
If you want to partition or format your SD you HAVE to be in Windows Mobile.
Also, if you are repartitioning your SD, I recommend you recreate your data.img or else it will have issues.
I tried to format in WM... Fail. All the files reappeared.
I did notice .android_secure file. That wasn't there before.
I have unmounted, seems like it is remounting itself. I even unmounted and yanked battery immediately. No success.
Yes, Android still boots.... Something in there is locking card. If card was bad, Android would obviously not be booting.
I cant add or remove data from that card. I have tried several programs.
**** Edit****
Please Do Not ask if switch on adapted is locked, I have two adapters, both UNLOCKED... For some reason, my "Spidey Senses" are telling me that I am about to be asked that question. Being asked this will only cause me to "sigh" loudly before i bang my head on desk. Which will still leave me with locked card and now a fresh migrane.
[Q] "Insufficient storage available"with so much space available, please help.
Hi before some of you out there start throwing rocks at me hear me out please(I mean it about the brilliant developers on the forum not disrespect intended)
Is a know fact one of the problem than the Nexus 7 (2012) have if this stupid idea of Google not letting us to move applications to the what is presented as a SD storage (I know is not sd card per se) and so far nobody have come with a reliable solution to solve it now the new Nexus is out and I think nobody is going to bother to look in to it.
There is few ways to do it for what i have read but most of them fail 80% of the time create partitions the use of S2E and so on. I haven't still manage to suscefuly do this in a simple and 100% effective move, there is always something I have try many options available and still i haven't manage to move anything last I tried was the upgrade to nakasi because they claim the solve also the lag but nothing is really improving on the applications part so I am back to CM10 and the rest of the gang.
Please don't write nasty answers or call me names that I already know if you going to write something make worth it for me and for many others in this situation, asking about how much music or videos or even applications I have because this is not really the problem this something with in the core. my Nexus is almost empty no pictures no videos no games.
Nexus 7 32Gb WiFi I was on stock ROM, although unlocked and rooted. Now CM10
I have barely anything left on my nexus - and its still giving the same message.
According to Internal Storage settings:
Total Space: 27.58 Gb
Currently 17.90Gb available
Apps - 532mb used 454 available *"ATTENTION TO THIS VALUE"
Pictures/videos - 748kb
Audio - 332kb
App Downloads - 9.6gb
Downloads 4.29 Mb
Cached data - 83.42Mb
I went into settings and cleared cached data too
Please Help and thanks
Why do you think you need the ability to move apps to SD storage?
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Your post barely makes sense. And to say you're let down by fellow xda members because one of us hasn't jumped to "fix" something that only you seem to think is broken, is ludicrous.
You won't find any help here I'll bet with your "blame everyone for your own problems" attitude my friend.
After your thread title....I'm betting someone who could or has figured out how to help you would just keep walking.
K...I'm done. And you got my vote for most ridiculous thread of the month award!!!!
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BTW. USB drive. Problem solved!!!
You're welcome.
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oscaraperez, on the Nexus 7, the /sdcard folder is actually a symlink to a path in /data/media. It's on the same partition as everything else in /data -- which is to say, your applications. They share the same pool of storage. So there's really nothing to be gained by moving apps to /sdcard.
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All aboard the whingemill! Sounds like a classic example of PEBKAC (although there's not often a keyboard or chair involved in mobile-land).
I don't think you understand how storage works on Nexus devices. You don't move apps to the virtual /sdcard location because you run out of space on some kind of /apps partition. Stuff on a Nexus device is in an essentially unified block with the exception of /system, and if you're installing everything there, well, that's your problem.
If you're out of space, you're out of space. Your music/movies/apps matter because, newsflash, they're what go on your storage.
I solved his issue. (USB storage for media)......why didn't he thank me yet?
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kj2112 said:
I solved his issue. (USB storage for media)......why didn't he thank me yet?
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Plus you can use the FolderMount app, and otg-helper to link directories to your USB. I use it to run large games's obb files from the USB, which only leaves the small .akp file on the device. As you can see from the screenshot, I have about 9 gigs of apps on my 8 GB nexus 7. FolderMount is a great app.
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Plus you can use the FolderMount app, and otg-helper to mount directories to your USB. I use it to run large games's obb files from the USB, which only leaves the small .akp file on the device. As you can see from the screenshot, I have about 9 gigs of apps on my 8 GB nexus 7. FolderMount is a great app.
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I am sorry I will try to change the title
The first think I said is "please before you start throwing rocks at me hear me out" and "Please don't write nasty answers or call me names that I already know if you going to write something make worth it".
Pirateghost you will see down below, thank you
khaytsus I will try my best to "Speak the speach" sorry, thank you
kj2112 you are a Senior member I think you are the one with the attitude just because I am a Junior member doesn't mean I don't know what I am talking about is plenty reference to this issue on Google have a look if you want before write such answer, there is even a couple of technical intented ways to work around but they don't work.
Is also a mention to this here ond XDA: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1837241 he is still waiting for help
There was a nice technical explanation on why Google is having this sort of restriction but I can't find it also explaining the issue about this trap memory
Perhaps the title is no very nice and I apologize for it and by the way I have no friends like you, your answer is just sad and prove your ignorance on this particular issue.
Rirere You misunderstand me ENTIRELY. Just because I may not be a programmer or a modder does NOT mean I am a complete idiot to technology
I thanks those one than are showing some interest on this and I will explain myself a little bit better because english is not my first language I will quote some others post around the web please bare with me and thank you to those than I using theirs remarks and even screen shots.
Nexus 7 32Gb WiFi I was on stock ROM, although unlocked and rooted. Now CM10
I have barely anything left on my nexus - and its still giving the same message.
According to Internal Storage settings:
Total Space: 27.58 Gb
Currently 17.90Gb available
Apps - 532mb used 454 free *"ATTENTION TO THIS VALUE"
Pictures/videos - 748kb
Audio - 332kb
App Downloads - 9.6gb
Downloads 4.29 Mb
Cached data - 83.42Mb
I went into settings and cleared cached data too?
I did a search and seen some advice on downloading app Trim (Lagfix). But I can't even download apps (insufficience space).
* I know Android needs 500MB of space free to work with. Every OS reserves memory for various reasons. What puzzles me - is that even when I have deleted lots of games/movies basically everithing already - its still saying insufficient space? Its like no space is freeing up. I've uninstalled/deleted most of the apps.
Even Trying to update some apps I am getting an insufficient storage error - but when I look with System Info I can see plenty of space, including the cache
kj2112, Rirere are you with me?
I know there is not and SD card per Se and the nexus use those 32GB space for everything That is the reason one of the recommendation somewhere was to create and mount a partition ext4 or ext3 and with the help of S2E move the aplication like a virtual external sd card to free some of the APP space
I am calling it SD card for the benefit of other juniors members like me in case they read this post
I try to partition my SD card using ROM manager but is not working. The idea is for the table to think that part of my SD card is create a partition on the SD card that acts like internal memory, not external memory. This partition must be in theformat ext partition.I like a large ext partition because I install a lot of apps. I have approximately 240 apps on my Titanium backup pro. I made the ext partition 1.9 GB.( is recomeded not to go more 2Gb) Note: This supposed to erase everything on the SD card so I backed up first. Benefit: The tablet thinks the ext partition on the SD card is internal memory I have tried to mount the ext partition even used my Ubuntu laptop and gparted and blah blah you guys got the idea better than me for sure because I just fallow others people recommendations.
S2E seem to be working but is clearly not since there is not a mounted "ext" I have also discover researching around than S2E is also having problems with the Nexus7 in particular I have try to contact the developer OlegKrikun but so far not answer meanwhile one guy claim he solve the issue inside the S2E application but din't work for me I have also tried link2sd whit no luck.
So maybe now I have explained myself a little bit better please be patient English is no my language you have some how to read betewnt the lines in resume:
- Out of memory (even after deleting every application)
- only a fresh flash clear everything
- creating this virtual space or ext partition will allow me to install and run few more application (like any other phone will allow me to move to external memory) expanding the 500Mb limitation I know a little bit how the Nexus storage work Rirere
- jfmcbrayer I disagree with you unless I am doing something else wrong the benefit of moving app to this virtual sd (ext Partition) will allow me to install many more aplications.
- kj2112 I can't thank you because you have been plain rude and not helpful.
- bluecarbon thank I was doing that but as you can see there is some other kind of issue my Nexus is almos empty and still is giving me the storage error
Anyway thanks to those than really want to help and I am sorry I will try to change the title
I din't wanted to make personal
As for the tittle: "I am a bit let down by my fellow forum members" is dedicate to you kj2112 and the member like you ... you got my vote for most ridiculous thread reply of the month award!!!! put you effort in helping and not in make me look stupid.
Is 3:15 here in my country I apologized if was a bit rude and cut it short
I have yet to see a compelling reason for moving apps to storage. You have the whole thing confused. Your apps all reside in /data except for the ROM which resides in/system. The link you posted has absolutely nothing to do with what you are talking about.
I think you are confused on how the system works and are causing more harm than good trying to circumvent the way Android works.
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I won't quote your huge post OP.....and frankly, I am not concerned with your issue or a solution. I'm concerned with you suggesting XDA members have let YOU down by not resolving your issue.
I don't care about storage issues, and most others aren't either....there are many ways to boost your storage....without an SD card.
If you look at my profile....and please do....you'll see I have however many posts....and almost half that number in thanks given to me. Not bragging at all.....just pointing out that I'm a productive and helpful member here at xda and have the thanks to prove it.
So again......blaming your fellow xda members for not solving your issue is not going to win you any respect here....and will make it even harder for you to find help in the future.
My suggestion.....type please delete as your thread title.....change all your posts here to simply "delete".......then politely ask a moderator to delete this thread before too many see it, or anyone looks at your profile and sees it.
It's called damage control.
Thank you and have a nice day.
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kj2112 said:
I won't quote your huge post OP.....and frankly, I am not concerned with your issue or a solution. I'm concerned with you suggesting XDA members have let YOU down by not resolving your issue.
I don't care about storage issues, and most others aren't either....there are many ways to boost your storage....without an SD card.
If you look at my profile....and please do....you'll see I have however many posts....and almost half that number in thanks given to me. Not bragging at all.....just pointing out that I'm a productive and helpful member here at xda and have the thanks to prove it.
So again......blaming your fellow xda members for not solving your issue is not going to win you any respect here....and will make it even harder for you to find help in the future.
My suggestion.....type please delete as your thread title.....change all your posts here to simply "delete".......then politely ask a moderator to delete this thread before too many see it, or anyone looks at your profile and sees it.
It's called damage control.
Thank you and have a nice day.
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You still not reading about my issue, now you just not happy about my comment towards you and I already apologize for the title I can't change now and I will not delete my post because it is an issue for me and I asking for help to solve it I notice how many people appreciate your help 503 thanks that is very nice, but that is no my case you were rude to me and I am entitle to my opinion just like you. If you don't care about my problem is fine perhap one day I have a problem than interes you and you may feel like helping me
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Pirateghost said:
I have yet to see a compelling reason for moving apps to storage. You have the whole thing confused. Your apps all reside in /data except for the ROM which resides in/system. The link you posted has absolutely nothing to do with what you are talking about.
I think you are confused on how the system works and are causing more harm than good trying to circumvent the way Android works.
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I most be really wrong here but he is reporting the same problem "No space" even if is no true, sorry I am missing something beyond my capabilities.
please be so kind to explain to me how I still have "Insufficient storage available" message on app update or installations with so much space available
Dear Moderator
Dear Moderator Could you please change the tittle of my post to: Nexus 7 "Insufficient storage available" message on app update or installations with so much space available, please help.
Some members found the original one a bit harsh and I don't want to offend anyone I have try myself but couldn't therefore my apologies on the first post
Thanks
oscaraperez said:
Dear Moderator Could you please change the tittle of my post to: Nexus 7 Insufficient space error messagebut is not true, please help.
Some members found the original one a bit harsh and I don't want to offend anyone I have try myself but couldn't therefore my apologies on the first post
Thanks
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Edit it yourself.
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oscaraperez said:
Dear Moderator Could you please change the tittle of my post to: Nexus 7 "Insufficient storage available" message on app update or installations with so much space available, please help.
Some members found the original one a bit harsh and I don't want to offend anyone I have try myself but couldn't therefore my apologies on the first post
Thanks
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Edit your first post....you can change the title too.
I told you a work around for storage problems, as did others. USB sticks/drives BTW.
Again.....its not that I am not interested in your issue.....I just didn't like the apparent tone of your title....there are many people here that seem to blame other members and especially rom devs for their problems. And most issues on this entire forum are due to not following instructions and not reading through threads for tips and warnings.
So I apologize for coming across harsh....but its a sore spot for many members here. A lot of people seem to have a sense of entitlement here and are too lazy to read threads, opening posts for roms and even the xda rules. It just gets some people's backs up....like my own.
So good luck with your issue and I'd help more, but aside from storage self management and/or USB storage.....I have no other ideas.
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oscaraperez said:
I most be really wrong here but he is reporting the same problem "No space" even if is no true, sorry I am missing something beyond my capabilities.
please be so kind to explain to me how I still have "Insufficient storage available" message on app update or installations with so much space available
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By the way....sounds to me like your system partition is full. That's totally different than your virtual sd card.....which means all you can do is get rid of some big games and apps.
Correct me if I'm wrong someone ....I know my s2's inner workings much more than my N7.
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kj2112 said:
Edit your first post....you can change the title too.
I told you a work around for storage problems, as did others. USB sticks/drives BTW.
Again.....its not that I am not interested in your issue.....I just didn't like the apparent tone of your title....there are many people here that seem to blame other members and especially rom devs for their problems. And most issues on this entire forum are due to not following instructions and not reading through threads for tips and warnings.
So I apologize for coming across harsh....but its a sore spot for many members here. A lot of people seem to have a sense of entitlement here and are too lazy to read threads, opening posts for roms and even the xda rules. It just gets some people's backs up....like my own.
So good luck with your issue and I'd help more, but aside from storage self management and/or USB storage.....I have no other ideas.
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Done thanks
I am not blaming anybody here this is a google even if you guys don't believe me I have plenty space available I have basically unistalled and deleted and clean everything as far as I capable there is no need for storage management here if you notice on the details of my storage. Men I wish I can find again the reference to this problem on the other forum I'll keep looking.
similar problem: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1877916
Well thanks and again my apologies for the old title to you and all the others
oscaraperez said:
Rirere You misunderstand me ENTIRELY. Just because I may not be a programmer or a modder does NOT mean I am a complete idiot to technology
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You don't have to be a "complete idiot" to create your own problems. PEBKAC implies a lot more about a user's attitude than their technical proficiency, and although you've been gracious enough to fix the title, it's still pretty evident from your first post that your initial approach was pretty damn lacking. You don't walk up to people, insult them with a backhanded remark, and then blame them for not helping you.
oscaraperez said:
I have barely anything left on my nexus - and its still giving the same message.
According to Internal Storage settings:
Total Space: 27.58 Gb
Currently 17.90Gb available
Apps - 532mb used 454 free *"ATTENTION TO THIS VALUE"
Pictures/videos - 748kb
Audio - 332kb
App Downloads - 9.6gb
Downloads 4.29 Mb
Cached data - 83.42Mb
I went into settings and cleared cached data too?
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I'm going to call it and say you screwed up a flash somewhere along the line. None of the stock Android devices I own (or any of the test devices at my workplace) have an entry for "free" data outside of the primary report at the top. It sounds like somewhere, you actually physically partitioned off /data or created a virtual container for it. I certainly can't remember ever seeing this issue in Cyanogenmod by default anywhere, and I've used it for a while.
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I did a search and seen some advice on downloading app Trim (Lagfix). But I can't even download apps (insufficience space).
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Lagfix is an implementation of fstrim, which marks deleted blocks as no longer in use by the filesystem. But it's not a tool designed to increase free storage space. Your OS knows and realizes that it's got space available. fstrim just politely notifies your memory controller that such is the case.
oscaraperez said:
* I know Android needs 500MB of space free to work with. Every OS reserves memory for various reasons. What puzzles me - is that even when I have deleted lots of games/movies basically everithing already - its still saying insufficient space? Its like no space is freeing up. I've uninstalled/deleted most of the apps.
Even Trying to update some apps I am getting an insufficient storage error - but when I look with System Info I can see plenty of space, including the cache
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Android doesn't "need" 500MB free, but like any UNIX/LINUX-similar system, Android wants space available so it can page to disk. However, it will pull this silently from elsewhere in the filesystem and it would just slow down if you were truly out of space.
oscaraperez said:
kj2112, Rirere are you with me?
I know there is not and SD card per Se and the nexus use those 32GB space for everything That is the reason one of the recommendation somewhere was to create and mount a partition ext4 or ext3 and with the help of S2E move the aplication like a virtual external sd card to free some of the APP space
I am calling it SD card for the benefit of other juniors members like me in case they read this post
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Good intentions, bad idea. When people who don't know what's going on try to use technical labels to describe a problem, it just makes things harder for anyone to help you.
oscaraperez said:
I try to partition my SD card using ROM manager but is not working. The idea is for the table to think that part of my SD card is create a partition on the SD card that acts like internal memory, not external memory. This partition must be in theformat ext partition.I like a large ext partition because I install a lot of apps. I have approximately 240 apps on my Titanium backup pro. I made the ext partition 1.9 GB.( is recomeded not to go more 2Gb) Note: This supposed to erase everything on the SD card so I backed up first. Benefit: The tablet thinks the ext partition on the SD card is internal memory I have tried to mount the ext partition even used my Ubuntu laptop and gparted and blah blah you guys got the idea better than me for sure because I just fallow others people recommendations.
S2E seem to be working but is clearly not since there is not a mounted "ext" I have also discover researching around than S2E is also having problems with the Nexus7 in particular I have try to contact the developer OlegKrikun but so far not answer meanwhile one guy claim he solve the issue inside the S2E application but din't work for me I have also tried link2sd whit no luck.
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In order to mount your device's partitions on an external device, you would need to configure the onboard MTP to expose more partitions than /sdcard. Since what you're describing isn't default behavior (read: shouldn't be happening), you should stop mucking around with partitions and reflash completely to stock. Since you've created partitions already though, that's not as easy as it would be otherwise.
oscaraperez said:
So maybe now I have explained myself a little bit better please be patient English is no my language you have some how to read betewnt the lines in resume:
- Out of memory (even after deleting every application)
- only a fresh flash clear everything
- creating this virtual space or ext partition will allow me to install and run few more application (like any other phone will allow me to move to external memory) expanding the 500Mb limitation I know a little bit how the Nexus storage work Rirere
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If you knew "a little bit," you would not be trying to create partitions, virtual or otherwise. Your internal table is screwed up if this is happening, and I definitely can't recall ever having this issue with Cyanogenmod based ROMs.
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- jfmcbrayer I disagree with you unless I am doing something else wrong the benefit of moving app to this virtual sd (ext Partition) will allow me to install many more aplications.
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Even if you were doing it right, it would have precious little bearing on how Android is supposed to work by default. The new unified filestructures were introduced in 4.0.x to solve this issue.
Bottom line, revert your partitions back to stock. I don't think can emphasize enough that trying to fix a non-existent problem without fully understanding the underlying technology-- and I mean fully-- causes far more problems than it tends to solve.
Please leave alone men I need help to solve the problem
Rirere said:
You don't have to be a "complete idiot" to create your own problems. PEBKAC implies a lot more about a user's attitude than their technical proficiency, and although you've been gracious enough to fix the title, it's still pretty evident from your first post that your initial approach was pretty damn lacking. You don't walk up to people, insult them with a backhanded remark, and then blame them for not helping you.
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WOW thanks you definetly a nice guy I can see that I din't create any problem the message is there for "insufficient storage space" the rest I try it afterward I have flash and reflash 2 time stock 2 times CM10 and after some time is back
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I'm going to call it and say you screwed up a flash somewhere along the line. None of the stock Android devices I own (or any of the test devices at my workplace) have an entry for "free" data outside of the primary report at the top. It sounds like somewhere, you actually physically partitioned off /data or created a virtual container for it. I certainly can't remember ever seeing this issue in Cyanogenmod by default anywhere, and I've used it for a while.
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right now I can't update the applications and free space value is clearly state at the bottom right of Storage/Apps/Running
Rirere said:
Lagfix is an implementation of fstrim, which marks deleted blocks as no longer in use by the filesystem. But it's not a tool designed to increase free storage space. Your OS knows and realizes that it's got space available. fstrim just politely notifies your memory controller that such is the case.
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I agree with you here I was try some others recommendation but not harm doneby this
Rirere said:
Android doesn't "need" 500MB free, but like any UNIX/LINUX-similar system, Android wants space available so it can page to disk. However, it will pull this silently from elsewhere in the filesystem and it would just slow down if you were truly out of space.
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There is many reference to this requirement whether is silently or not at the end of the day after going under the 500Mb the problems start sorry for my lack of technical explanation I din't know that part
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Good intentions, bad idea. When people who don't know what's going on try to use technical labels to describe a problem, it just makes things harder for anyone to help you.
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And you are not really helping by attacking me post like you steer others away from even trying to help
Rirere said:
In order to mount your device's partitions on an external device, you would need to configure the onboard MTP to expose more partitions than /sdcard. Since what you're describing isn't default behavior (read: shouldn't be happening), you should stop mucking around with partitions and reflash completely to stock. Since you've created partitions already though, that's not as easy as it would be otherwise.
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the partition were never created as I mention before I couldn't do it
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If you knew "a little bit," you would not be trying to create partitions, virtual or otherwise. Your internal table is screwed up if this is happening, and I definitely can't recall ever having this issue with Cyanogenmod based ROMs.
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What can I say is happening to me and few others google it
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Bottom line, revert your partitions back to stock. I don't think can emphasize enough that trying to fix a non-existent problem without fully understanding the underlying technology-- and I mean fully-- causes far more problems than it tends to solve.
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You quote some of my comment conveniently avoiding others
I reflash to CM10 I have no partion there is nothing screw up because of my wrong doing but I still have the same error I just try to get help to solve went some body is drowning you don't throw rocks at them I make a mistake on the title and I change it and apologize but you still found more issues just take for what it is a grammatical error and error of translation from my language (brain) in to yours. If you can't do anything else but to offend me why don't you just forget about this post and move on let me be a soon I find more reference to this problems i will keep updating the post whit the links hopping for some body to come along a notice and perhaps help me and help the others with this issue.
I know than I no making myself understood but why people don't just come any other explanation about my apparent lack of space and is not true I have no games no music no pictures only few applications.
Some others working with some phones with integrated memory have encounter this issue and solve it with partitions but is not working on the nexus7 why I have no the option to do so like the others and then like them have the option back to move the application on the "App info page" I have and HTC OneX on that phone I can move the application somewhere ( called it virtual external card for example) I use SDMove I have plenty space and after almost 2 years I have never run out of space including music videos games etc how this work How HTC work around this if you can help I will appreciate it
Thanks