i know the flash images for 4.3 are available now but wouldnt it be easier to wait for the OTA update? and the process will be simpler? or am i missing something? Also if I have a custom kernel but stock rom all I need to do for the OTA update is go back to stock kernel correct?
Cjshino said:
i know the flash images for 4.3 are available now but wouldnt it be easier to wait for the OTA update? and the process will be simpler? or am i missing something? Also if I have a custom kernel but stock rom all I need to do for the OTA update is go back to stock kernel correct?
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You will need to be 100% stock to get the OTA the normal way, otherwise you'll have to flash it manually via adb sideload or a custom recovery
EddyOS said:
You will need to be 100% stock to get the OTA the normal way, otherwise you'll have to flash it manually via adb sideload or a custom recovery
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so you mean like No custom roms, custom kernels or root apps? or root or unlock bootloader?
100% stock means exactly that. You can leave the bootloader unlocked but the main system itself has to be exactly how it was brand new as the OTA patches the original files. If they're not there the OTA will fail
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100% stock means exactly that. You can leave the bootloader unlocked but the main system itself has to be exactly how it was brand new as the OTA patches the original files. If they're not there the OTA will fail
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Can i just go back to stock kernel and delete root apps? or do i have to flash 4.2.2
Cjshino said:
Can i just go back to stock kernel and delete root apps? or do i have to flash 4.2.2
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If i upgrade to 4.3 with the factory image am i still rooted? Can i still use my apps that require root lets says auto hide soft keys?
You can get OTA update even when you have root (assuming you haven't touched any system files), but you will lose root after the update. It's pretty easy to re-root though.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 4 Beta
I still dont have it via OTA yet.
Is it just the US at the moment ?
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Would it be possible to install OTA updates if I choose to root the phone?
From what I've read, this is definitely impossible if I flash custom recovery.
But what if I leave stock recovery? Do I just need to reroot after the OTA, or is there another method to update?
Thanks
On my Galaxy Nexus, I get around that by just booting Clockwork Recovery (fastboot boot recovery.img instead of fastboot flash recovery recovery.img). Then I flash the OTA, re-flash su and I'm good.
If you are rooted with no custom recovery, your phone will still accept the OTA. When you install the OTA, you lose root. You can use something like OTA Rootkeeper to keep root, or reroot after the fact.
I am new to nexus devices... how often do they release OTA updates?
1234568 said:
I am new to nexus devices... how often do they release OTA updates?
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If you have a custom recovery like "ClockworkMod, Twrp etc" then you can't get OTA's.. some say if you have Superuser you can't get OTA's either..
You would need to install a stock recovery and download the OTA file and flash it..
OTA updates don't happen that often.. when the phone first release you might see a couple to address certain issues.. or if the AOSP code changes you'll see a update..
plumcakk said:
Would it be possible to install OTA updates if I choose to root the phone?
From what I've read, this is definitely impossible if I flash custom recovery.
But what if I leave stock recovery? Do I just need to reroot after the OTA, or is there another method to update?
Thanks
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On the Galaxy Nexus, you can update via OTA while rooted. Everything else must be stock. The update will usually break your root, but it's pretty simple enough to re-root on Nexi.
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I am new to nexus devices... how often do they release OTA updates?
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They send out OTAs whenever they update Android versions. For the GNex, I think I got 4 version updates since I bought it last June (4.0.4 -> 4.1 -> 4.1.1 -> 4.1.2 -> 4.2)
YoungAceAtlanta said:
If you have a custom recovery like "ClockworkMod, Twrp etc" then you can't get OTA's.. some say if you have Superuser you can't get OTA's either..
You would need to install a stock recovery and download the OTA file and flash it..
OTA updates don't happen that often.. when the phone first release you might see a couple to address certain issues.. or if the AOSP code changes you'll see a update..
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any way you can flash the OTA update with clockwork?
I am having some issues with an AOSP 4.3 rom. I would like to stay on 4.3 but with the complete stock rom directly from Google. Is it possible to have root on the ota stock 4.3 rom? I would rather be back on 4.2.2 stock/rooted than rooted 4.3 with too many glitches
Due to some security changes in 4.3 root won't survive an OTA. You'll need the stock recovery to update via OTA. Subsequently, you'll need a custom recovery to flash the latest version of SuperSU and have root again.
What's your current state?
Mercado_Negro said:
Due to some security changes in 4.3 root won't survive an OTA. You'll need the stock recovery to update via OTA. Subsequently, you'll need a custom recovery to flash the latest version of SuperSU and have root again.
What's your current state?
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I'm on a rooted 4.3 AOSP ROM with TWRP 2.6.0.0. Did a regular wipe while I was 4.2.2 before I flashed. Can you flash a custom recovery on unrooted ota 4.3?
patrickjaden said:
I'm on a rooted 4.3 AOSP ROM with TWRP 2.6.0.0. Did a regular wipe while I was 4.2.2 before I flashed. Can you flash a custom recovery on unrooted ota 4.3?
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yes. you dont need root for a custom recovery.
patrickjaden said:
I'm on a rooted 4.3 AOSP ROM with TWRP 2.6.0.0. Did a regular wipe while I was 4.2.2 before I flashed. Can you flash a custom recovery on unrooted ota 4.3?
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Yes, you can.
Did you also flash the latest bootloader and radio? That's important, specially the radio (to avoid compatibilities issues with ROMs).
Mercado_Negro said:
Due to some security changes in 4.3 root won't survive an OTA. You'll need the stock recovery to update via OTA. Subsequently, you'll need a custom recovery to flash the latest version of SuperSU and have root again.
What's your current state?
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Yes, you can.
Did you also flash the latest bootloader and radio? That's important, specially the radio (to avoid compatibilities issues with ROMs).
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No, that's probably why I'm having so many problems. Where can I find them? and can they be flashed in TWRP
twrp flashable. since youre on tmobile, the hybrid radios are good, thats if you want to use tmobiles lte http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2087227
patrickjaden said:
No, that's probably why I'm having so many problems. Where can I find them? and can they be flashed in TWRP
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simms22 said:
yes. you dont need root for a custom recovery.
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So theoretically if I revert to stock 4.2.2 I can update to the OTA, then flash a custom recovery (I assume I can do that via the toolkit?), then flash the root file, I'll be good? Do I need to relock my bootloader?
patrickjaden said:
No, that's probably why I'm having so many problems. Where can I find them? and can they be flashed in TWRP
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You can find them here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=43528263
I'm not sure if these zip files are flashable, though.
I'd strongly suggest you to download Google's Factory Images from:
https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images#occamjwr66v
And extract both from there to be safe (bootloader and radio images).
You won't be able to flash these images from TWRP. In this case, you'll need to use fastboot commands to flash them (but it will be safer, in my opinion).
If you're not familiar with fastboot command lines and don't have the Android ADT Bundle either please let me know, I can walk you through.
[EDIT] I found another link for the radio (a.k.a. baseband) and bootloader. Here it is:
https://www.copy.com/s/JniBu/4.3 files (mako)
I'm 100% sure these are proper versions but since they're images you'll have to flash them via fastboot.
Mercado_Negro said:
You can find them here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=43528263
I'm not sure if these zip files are flashable, though.
I'd strongly suggest you to download Google's Factory Images from:
https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images#occamjwr66v
And extract both from there to be safe (bootloader and radio images).
You won't be able to flash these images from TWRP. In this case, you'll need to use fastboot commands to flash them (but it will be safer, in my opinion).
If you're not familiar with fastboot command lines and don't have the Android ADT Bundle either please let me know, I can walk you through.
[EDIT] I found another link for the radio (a.k.a. baseband) and bootloader. Here it is:
https://www.copy.com/s/JniBu/4.3 files (mako)
I'm 100% sure these are proper versions but since they're images you'll have to flash them via fastboot.
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I've never really done fastboot before. Is this way easier than flashing stock 4.2.2 and going from there?
patrickjaden said:
I've never really done fastboot before. Is this way easier than flashing stock 4.2.2 and going from there?
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No, it's not easier at all but you'll learn a lot in the process which will surely help you a lot in the future if you run into problems.
It's up to you
Mercado_Negro said:
No, it's not easier at all but you'll learn a lot in the process which will surely help you a lot in the future if you run into problems.
It's up to you
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I kinda wanna revert to 4.2.2 and OTA update to 4.3 so I can be 100% stock. I don't know if I can trust the dev who's making this AOSP ROM. Does my bootloader need to be locked to update?
bootloader will need to be unlocked. thats easy, you dont need a toolkit, you wont learn anything that way. you will need to install fastboot to your computer. you boot into your bootloader, connect to your computer via usb, start fastboot, open a command window, type.. fastboot devices(this is to check if fastboot sees your device), then type.. fastboot oem unlock(then look at your n4 screen to press yes or no). this will unlock your bootloader. download your recovery to your computer, stick it into the same folder as fastboot(do this before you start), then type in the command window.. fastboot flash recovery recoveryname.img(this will flash your custom recovery). then, in the bootloader, press your volume keys to scroll to the word recovery, press your power button to boot into recovery.
patrickjaden said:
I kinda wanna revert to 4.2.2 and OTA update to 4.3 so I can be 100% stock. I don't know if I can trust the dev who's making this AOSP ROM. Does my bootloader need to be locked to update?
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No, you don't need a locked bootloader to update via OTA.
Out of curiosity, how are you going to revert to 4.2.2 if you've never used fastboot command lines? You're in an AOSP 4.3 ROM right now, with 4.2.2 bootloader and radio. Do you have a flashable 4.2.2? That's the only way I can see it happen (unless I'm missing something which is probable).
Mercado_Negro said:
No, it's not easier at all but you'll learn a lot in the process which will surely help you a lot in the future if you run into problems.
It's up to you
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Mercado_Negro said:
No, you don't need a locked bootloader to update via OTA.
Out of curiosity, how are you going to revert to 4.2.2 if you've never used fastboot command lines? You're in an AOSP 4.3 ROM right now, with 4.2.2 bootloader and radio. Do you have a flashable 4.2.2? That's the only way I can see it happen (unless I'm missing something which is probable).
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Could I use the toolkit/is it usable with 4.3? Or is there a way to flash the stock via recovery?
patrickjaden said:
Could I use the toolkit/is it usable with 4.3? Or is there a way to flash the stock via recovery?
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I'd never suggest any toolkit because you won't learn anything from it. I'm not sure how's current state of toolkits so I can't comment on their proper functioning with 4.3.
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I'd never suggest any toolkit because you won't learn anything from it. I'm not sure how's current state of toolkits so I can't comment on their proper functioning with 4.3.
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Okay, is there a 4.2.2 zip I can flash that will let me get the OTA?
patrickjaden said:
Okay, is there a 4.2.2 zip I can flash that will let me get the OTA?
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Sorry, I don't know if there's one.
is it possible to flash a hybrid radio onto stock 4.3?
patrickjaden said:
is it possible to flash a hybrid radio onto stock 4.3?
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Yes, it is. You can pretty much flash any baseband on stock or ROMs. The question is, is it worth it? It may work flawlessly but it could also cause issues. I'd do it but I'd keep my eyes on it if something goes wrong all of a sudden.
Apologies if this is a really stupid question, I have tried to search for a solution and found a few replies to other posts but I still don't really understand how to solve my problem.
My phone is rooted, running stock rom and had franco kernel on it.
I wanted to install the 4.3 OTA update so flashed the stock kernel and tried to update, but it failed saying "warning no file_contextsVerifying.. etc etc". I didn't write down the whole error message as I thought that I'd be able to recreate it if needed by trying to update again.
However, I now have stock rom and kernel but am still on 4.2.2 and when I check for updates it tells me that my phone is up to date.
How can I get to stock everything and update OTA without losing any of my apps/data and remaining rooted? Thanks for any help!
You need the stock recovery as well, without it the OTA won't run (has been mentioned hundreds of times before, see the OTA thread in General for more info)
EddyOS said:
You need the stock recovery as well, without it the OTA won't run (has been mentioned hundreds of times before, see the OTA thread in General for more info)
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You don't need stock recovery. Twrp or CWM can install the update. Try this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=37482646
From my BLACKED OUT N4
spaceman860 said:
You don't need stock recovery. Twrp or CWM can install the update. Try this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=37482646
From my BLACKED OUT N4
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You do if you want to do the process normally (ie. download OTA and flash without having to manually choose it in recovery). And that link goes to the Franco kernel thread, which I'm pretty sure has no bearing here
EddyOS said:
You do if you want to do the process normally (ie. download OTA and flash without having to manually choose it in recovery). And that link goes to the Franco kernel thread, which I'm pretty sure has no bearing here
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You can use a custom recovery to do it normally to when you get the notification just click on it. The reason I posted that link is because he had Franco kernel which changes a system file the link shows you how to change it back
From my BLACKED OUT N4
EddyOS said:
You do if you want to do the process normally (ie. download OTA and flash without having to manually choose it in recovery). And that link goes to the Franco kernel thread, which I'm pretty sure has no bearing here
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So if I'm happy downloading the update on my computer and flashing it via cwm, I wouldn't need stock recovery? Does that mean that in my phones current state (stock rom, stock kernel and cwm) I could just do that to get to 4.3 and wouldn't lose any apps/data? Sorry if the answer to that is obvious...it just didn't like trying to install the ota update.
IMHO if you want to update via OTA you're better off being 100% stock, it will unroot you and there have been issues re-rooting 4.3 unless you know what you're doing. You also need the stock kernel to flash the OTA so you'll need to flash that back before hand. Easiest thing to do is back up your apps, flash the 4.3 factory image, re-root and restore your apps/data
I don't want to have issues re-routing so I guess my safest bet is to just stick with what I have right now?
I'm fairly new to rooting and I just rooted my nexus 4 on 4.3. I was wondering if I would still get ota updates or have the option to flash the new version of android on to my phone. I'm on stock ROM and I have twrp. Also, if I do get ota updates or have the option to flash to the next version, dobi lose any app data, pictures,etc or do I just loose the root
androidpatel said:
I'm fairly new to rooting and I just rooted my nexus 4 on 4.3. I was wondering if I would still get ota updates or have the option to flash the new version of android on to my phone. I'm on stock ROM and I have twrp. Also, if I do get ota updates or have the option to flash to the next version, dobi lose any app data, pictures,etc or do I just loose the root
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Someone said that root does not matter, but you'll get OTAs if you're on stock. BUT you'll get an error trying to install the update if you're using TWRP or CWM.
You will keep your data and files, but will lose root.
gasparzim said:
Someone said that root does not matter, but you'll get OTAs if you're on stock. BUT you'll get an error trying to install the update if you're using TWRP or CWM.
You will keep your data and files, but will lose root.
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Is there a way to remove twrp without loosing any data(besides root) before the next offical update comes out?
androidpatel said:
Is there a way to remove twrp without loosing any data(besides root) before the next offical update comes out?
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Welcome to android and rooting your phone. Rest assured if a new version of android comes out it will be here just as fast as it will come to your phone. No need to worry about what may happen. Enjoy your rooted Nexus and try some enhanced stock options. Believe me the development in here will make you never miss a stock phone.
But to answer your question you can always use fastboot to obtain your factory recovery again but honestly its a much better world with custom recovery, kernel and enhanced stock rom... T9 missing from stock is a joke in my book
Edit: Also in the future its always good to google your question since I guarantee anything you can think of android related you probably was not the first. Your question is quite common and you may find answers from what others have said could be quite helpful to you
Take Care - welcome again
gasparzim said:
Someone said that root does not matter, but you'll get OTAs if you're on stock. BUT you'll get an error trying to install the update if you're using TWRP or CWM.
You will keep your data and files, but will lose root.
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I've used TWRP to flash every OTA update never had a problem. I also flash the SU zip right after so I don't lose root or my custom recovery
BLACKED OUT LTE N4
spaceman860 said:
I've used TWRP to flash every OTA update never had a problem. I also flash the SU zip right after so I don't lose root or my custom recovery
BLACKED OUT LTE N4
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You didn't loose any app data or pictures when you flashed the OTA file? Also, what is an SU zip?
androidpatel said:
You didn't loose any app data or pictures when you flashed the OTA file? Also, what is an SU zip?
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No you'll never loose anything with a OTA update. Super SU zip is how you get root find it here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1538053
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androidpatel said:
You didn't loose any app data or pictures when you flashed the OTA file? Also, what is an SU zip?
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Sounds like someone needs to start reading the wiki threads and basically taking their time and reading up on your phone, your root process and the issues and concerns of the N4. I would pull up google and start typing in your questions...
I have a rooted (no CWM changed) and unlocked Nexus 4 with JB 4.3.
I did not get the OTA yet and I wondered if it is because the phone is rooted. In addition, I read some problems with people who tried to update to 4.4 with rooted phones and are getting infinite bootloops.
Do I have to unroot my 4.3 for getting the OTA and achieving a successful installation?
Thank you all on advance
gosku26 said:
I have a rooted (no CWM changed) and unlocked Nexus 4 with JB 4.3.
I did not get the OTA yet and I wondered if it is because the phone is rooted. In addition, I read some problems with people who tried to update to 4.4 with rooted phones and are getting infinite bootloops.
Do I have to unroot my 4.3 for getting the OTA and achieving a successful installation?
Thank you all on advance
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Why do you need OTA update when you can get the stock ROM in flashable zip file? All features are remain the same for stock ROM. Search and download it in the Development sections.
gosku26 said:
I have a rooted (no CWM changed) and unlocked Nexus 4 with JB 4.3.
I did not get the OTA yet and I wondered if it is because the phone is rooted. In addition, I read some problems with people who tried to update to 4.4 with rooted phones and are getting infinite bootloops.
Do I have to unroot my 4.3 for getting the OTA and achieving a successful installation?
Thank you all on advance
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I am rooted and received the OTA notification yesterday. You 'SHOULD' be able to install if ALL you did was root. However, if you applied any mods that made changes to the system, the OTA will fail.
taodan said:
Why do you need OTA update when you can get the stock ROM in flashable zip file? All features are remain the same for stock ROM. Search and download it in the Development sections.
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This is your best bet if you want to run 4.4. You'll need to install a custom recovery to flash the zip files. All the files and instructions are here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2527806
gbarayah said:
I am rooted and received the OTA notification yesterday. You 'SHOULD' be able to install if ALL you did was root. However, if you applied any mods that made changes to the system, the OTA will fail.
This is your best bet if you want to run 4.4. You'll need to install a custom recovery to flash the zip files. All the files and instructions are here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2527806
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Will flashing the stock 4.4 wipe my data, or it is like getting the OTA, that I keep my settings...?
gosku26 said:
Will flashing the stock 4.4 wipe my data, or it is like getting the OTA, that I keep my settings...?
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Did you read the linked post?
First step after installing custom recovery is to wipe data/factory reset, so yes, you will lose your settings.
taodan said:
Why do you need OTA update when you can get the stock ROM in flashable zip file? All features are remain the same for stock ROM. Search and download it in the Development sections.
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I would like to keep my settings if it's possible.
gbarayah said:
Did you read the linked post?
First step after installing custom recovery is to wipe data/factory reset, so yes, you will lose your settings.
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What I would like is to update to kitkat without losing my data.
I have the bootloader unlocked and the phone rooted, but when I go to recovery mode I get "No command" screen (is that normal?).
I was thinking of getting the phone unrooted, then update through the OTA, then root it again, just for making sure I don't break anything, but the "No command" screen does not look very good...
On the other hand, Would I lose my data if I "unroot" the phone?
gosku26 said:
What I would like is to update to kitkat without losing my data.
I have the bootloader unlocked and the phone rooted, but when I go to recovery mode I get "No command" screen (is that normal?).
I was thinking of getting the phone unrooted, then update through the OTA, then root it again, just for making sure I don't break anything, but the "No command" screen does not look very good...
On the other hand, Would I lose my data if I "unroot" the phone?
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To unroot, all you need to do is go into SuperSu, disable root, uninstall the app and then reboot the phone.
If all you have done is root the phone, and didn't modify anything else, then the OTA update 'SHOULD' install without a problem.
You can go to Android Police and download the OTA files and flash them via ADB, or you can just wait for the OTA to be pushed to your device.
If you decide to do it the manual way, there is one additional step you must take to ensure to keep your data I believe.
gbarayah said:
To unroot, all you need to do is go into SuperSu, disable root, uninstall the app and then reboot the phone.
If all you have done is root the phone, and didn't modify anything else, then the OTA update 'SHOULD' install without a problem.
You can go to Android Police and download the OTA files and flash them via ADB, or you can just wait for the OTA to be pushed to your device.
If you decide to do it the manual way, there is one additional step you must take to ensure to keep your data I believe.
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Thank you for your help gbarayah, I really appreciate it.
One last thing: I'm not pretty sure the only thing I modified was the rooting. I did not install any zip to modify my stock version, but there is something weird. I will explain:
At first I had 4.2.2, then I rooted and installed CWM. When 4.3 was released I got the OTA update correctly but I lost the root, so I rooted it again, this time without CWM.
Is the "No command" screen what is supposed to appear when I go to the recovery mode from fastboot menu? Or I would get a default recovery mode program?
If everything is right I will unroot for getting the OTA, but if not, I'm afraid I will have to flash CWM and the stock version, loosing my settings...
EDIT: Ok, I've just realized to get into stock system recovery I have to press VolUp and Power buttons once I'm in the 'No Command' screen, so I'm pretty sure I don't have problems installing the OTA update. Thank You!!!
gosku26 said:
Thank you for your help gbarayah, I really appreciate it.
One last thing: I'm not pretty sure the only thing I modified was the rooting. I did not install any zip to modify my stock version, but there is something weird. I will explain:
At first I had 4.2.2, then I rooted and installed CWM. When 4.3 was released I got the OTA update correctly but I lost the root, so I rooted it again, this time without CWM.
Is the "No command" screen what is supposed to appear when I go to the recovery mode from fastboot menu? Or I would get a default recovery mode program?
If everything is right I will unroot for getting the OTA, but if not, I'm afraid I will have to flash CWM and the stock version, loosing my settings...
EDIT: Ok, I've just realized to get into stock system recovery I have to press VolUp and Power buttons once I'm in the 'No Command' screen, so I'm pretty sure I don't have problems installing the OTA update. Thank You!!!
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Glad I could help. In the future, as long as you don't modify the system by flashing any modifications, you should be able to get the OTA update to install. Root doesn't affect this, and if you're worried about it, you can always uninstall it.
I opted to update using the stock zip files that were posted above and it worked just fine for me.