I have a rooted (no CWM changed) and unlocked Nexus 4 with JB 4.3.
I did not get the OTA yet and I wondered if it is because the phone is rooted. In addition, I read some problems with people who tried to update to 4.4 with rooted phones and are getting infinite bootloops.
Do I have to unroot my 4.3 for getting the OTA and achieving a successful installation?
Thank you all on advance
gosku26 said:
I have a rooted (no CWM changed) and unlocked Nexus 4 with JB 4.3.
I did not get the OTA yet and I wondered if it is because the phone is rooted. In addition, I read some problems with people who tried to update to 4.4 with rooted phones and are getting infinite bootloops.
Do I have to unroot my 4.3 for getting the OTA and achieving a successful installation?
Thank you all on advance
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Why do you need OTA update when you can get the stock ROM in flashable zip file? All features are remain the same for stock ROM. Search and download it in the Development sections.
gosku26 said:
I have a rooted (no CWM changed) and unlocked Nexus 4 with JB 4.3.
I did not get the OTA yet and I wondered if it is because the phone is rooted. In addition, I read some problems with people who tried to update to 4.4 with rooted phones and are getting infinite bootloops.
Do I have to unroot my 4.3 for getting the OTA and achieving a successful installation?
Thank you all on advance
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I am rooted and received the OTA notification yesterday. You 'SHOULD' be able to install if ALL you did was root. However, if you applied any mods that made changes to the system, the OTA will fail.
taodan said:
Why do you need OTA update when you can get the stock ROM in flashable zip file? All features are remain the same for stock ROM. Search and download it in the Development sections.
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This is your best bet if you want to run 4.4. You'll need to install a custom recovery to flash the zip files. All the files and instructions are here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2527806
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I am rooted and received the OTA notification yesterday. You 'SHOULD' be able to install if ALL you did was root. However, if you applied any mods that made changes to the system, the OTA will fail.
This is your best bet if you want to run 4.4. You'll need to install a custom recovery to flash the zip files. All the files and instructions are here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2527806
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Will flashing the stock 4.4 wipe my data, or it is like getting the OTA, that I keep my settings...?
gosku26 said:
Will flashing the stock 4.4 wipe my data, or it is like getting the OTA, that I keep my settings...?
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Did you read the linked post?
First step after installing custom recovery is to wipe data/factory reset, so yes, you will lose your settings.
taodan said:
Why do you need OTA update when you can get the stock ROM in flashable zip file? All features are remain the same for stock ROM. Search and download it in the Development sections.
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I would like to keep my settings if it's possible.
gbarayah said:
Did you read the linked post?
First step after installing custom recovery is to wipe data/factory reset, so yes, you will lose your settings.
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What I would like is to update to kitkat without losing my data.
I have the bootloader unlocked and the phone rooted, but when I go to recovery mode I get "No command" screen (is that normal?).
I was thinking of getting the phone unrooted, then update through the OTA, then root it again, just for making sure I don't break anything, but the "No command" screen does not look very good...
On the other hand, Would I lose my data if I "unroot" the phone?
gosku26 said:
What I would like is to update to kitkat without losing my data.
I have the bootloader unlocked and the phone rooted, but when I go to recovery mode I get "No command" screen (is that normal?).
I was thinking of getting the phone unrooted, then update through the OTA, then root it again, just for making sure I don't break anything, but the "No command" screen does not look very good...
On the other hand, Would I lose my data if I "unroot" the phone?
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To unroot, all you need to do is go into SuperSu, disable root, uninstall the app and then reboot the phone.
If all you have done is root the phone, and didn't modify anything else, then the OTA update 'SHOULD' install without a problem.
You can go to Android Police and download the OTA files and flash them via ADB, or you can just wait for the OTA to be pushed to your device.
If you decide to do it the manual way, there is one additional step you must take to ensure to keep your data I believe.
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To unroot, all you need to do is go into SuperSu, disable root, uninstall the app and then reboot the phone.
If all you have done is root the phone, and didn't modify anything else, then the OTA update 'SHOULD' install without a problem.
You can go to Android Police and download the OTA files and flash them via ADB, or you can just wait for the OTA to be pushed to your device.
If you decide to do it the manual way, there is one additional step you must take to ensure to keep your data I believe.
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Thank you for your help gbarayah, I really appreciate it.
One last thing: I'm not pretty sure the only thing I modified was the rooting. I did not install any zip to modify my stock version, but there is something weird. I will explain:
At first I had 4.2.2, then I rooted and installed CWM. When 4.3 was released I got the OTA update correctly but I lost the root, so I rooted it again, this time without CWM.
Is the "No command" screen what is supposed to appear when I go to the recovery mode from fastboot menu? Or I would get a default recovery mode program?
If everything is right I will unroot for getting the OTA, but if not, I'm afraid I will have to flash CWM and the stock version, loosing my settings...
EDIT: Ok, I've just realized to get into stock system recovery I have to press VolUp and Power buttons once I'm in the 'No Command' screen, so I'm pretty sure I don't have problems installing the OTA update. Thank You!!!
gosku26 said:
Thank you for your help gbarayah, I really appreciate it.
One last thing: I'm not pretty sure the only thing I modified was the rooting. I did not install any zip to modify my stock version, but there is something weird. I will explain:
At first I had 4.2.2, then I rooted and installed CWM. When 4.3 was released I got the OTA update correctly but I lost the root, so I rooted it again, this time without CWM.
Is the "No command" screen what is supposed to appear when I go to the recovery mode from fastboot menu? Or I would get a default recovery mode program?
If everything is right I will unroot for getting the OTA, but if not, I'm afraid I will have to flash CWM and the stock version, loosing my settings...
EDIT: Ok, I've just realized to get into stock system recovery I have to press VolUp and Power buttons once I'm in the 'No Command' screen, so I'm pretty sure I don't have problems installing the OTA update. Thank You!!!
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Glad I could help. In the future, as long as you don't modify the system by flashing any modifications, you should be able to get the OTA update to install. Root doesn't affect this, and if you're worried about it, you can always uninstall it.
I opted to update using the stock zip files that were posted above and it worked just fine for me.
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Hi
I have a rooted nexus S. When i first rooted it i had this issue
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1135929 and solved it using post #3.
Now when i get OTA updates the phone reboots and then the android icon with a package appears. the install begins but fails to and android with an exclamation mark icon.
I dont have logs because when i reboot the update isnt offered anymore for a really long time. does any one have any idea what could be wrong?
thanks in advance
The verify check has to complete and u need to flash it manually in custom recovery
I got this when I rebooted my NxS several times while the OTA was ready to be installed. It somehow got lost and couldn't be retrieved anymore.
As I couldn't find a solution I just reflashed the official 2.3.4 full rom and then got a) a working stock recovery and b) a working OTA again.
Official stock roms are signed and can be flashed via the stock recovery and don't need unlocked bootloader.
Thanks, i think i will wait for ICS and then reflash. I'm too lazy to do it all now and then again in a few months time.
Can you have permanent root with stock everything?
boozelclark said:
Thanks, i think i will wait for ICS and then reflash. I'm too lazy to do it all now and then again in a few months time.
Can you have permanent root with stock everything?
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Depends on how you define "everything". You'll need at least an open bootloader to flash the superuser zip via a custom recovery(, can relock the bootloader afterwards).
Apologies if this is a really stupid question, I have tried to search for a solution and found a few replies to other posts but I still don't really understand how to solve my problem.
My phone is rooted, running stock rom and had franco kernel on it.
I wanted to install the 4.3 OTA update so flashed the stock kernel and tried to update, but it failed saying "warning no file_contextsVerifying.. etc etc". I didn't write down the whole error message as I thought that I'd be able to recreate it if needed by trying to update again.
However, I now have stock rom and kernel but am still on 4.2.2 and when I check for updates it tells me that my phone is up to date.
How can I get to stock everything and update OTA without losing any of my apps/data and remaining rooted? Thanks for any help!
You need the stock recovery as well, without it the OTA won't run (has been mentioned hundreds of times before, see the OTA thread in General for more info)
EddyOS said:
You need the stock recovery as well, without it the OTA won't run (has been mentioned hundreds of times before, see the OTA thread in General for more info)
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You don't need stock recovery. Twrp or CWM can install the update. Try this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=37482646
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spaceman860 said:
You don't need stock recovery. Twrp or CWM can install the update. Try this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=37482646
From my BLACKED OUT N4
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You do if you want to do the process normally (ie. download OTA and flash without having to manually choose it in recovery). And that link goes to the Franco kernel thread, which I'm pretty sure has no bearing here
EddyOS said:
You do if you want to do the process normally (ie. download OTA and flash without having to manually choose it in recovery). And that link goes to the Franco kernel thread, which I'm pretty sure has no bearing here
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You can use a custom recovery to do it normally to when you get the notification just click on it. The reason I posted that link is because he had Franco kernel which changes a system file the link shows you how to change it back
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EddyOS said:
You do if you want to do the process normally (ie. download OTA and flash without having to manually choose it in recovery). And that link goes to the Franco kernel thread, which I'm pretty sure has no bearing here
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So if I'm happy downloading the update on my computer and flashing it via cwm, I wouldn't need stock recovery? Does that mean that in my phones current state (stock rom, stock kernel and cwm) I could just do that to get to 4.3 and wouldn't lose any apps/data? Sorry if the answer to that is obvious...it just didn't like trying to install the ota update.
IMHO if you want to update via OTA you're better off being 100% stock, it will unroot you and there have been issues re-rooting 4.3 unless you know what you're doing. You also need the stock kernel to flash the OTA so you'll need to flash that back before hand. Easiest thing to do is back up your apps, flash the 4.3 factory image, re-root and restore your apps/data
I don't want to have issues re-routing so I guess my safest bet is to just stick with what I have right now?
I'm fairly new to rooting and I just rooted my nexus 4 on 4.3. I was wondering if I would still get ota updates or have the option to flash the new version of android on to my phone. I'm on stock ROM and I have twrp. Also, if I do get ota updates or have the option to flash to the next version, dobi lose any app data, pictures,etc or do I just loose the root
androidpatel said:
I'm fairly new to rooting and I just rooted my nexus 4 on 4.3. I was wondering if I would still get ota updates or have the option to flash the new version of android on to my phone. I'm on stock ROM and I have twrp. Also, if I do get ota updates or have the option to flash to the next version, dobi lose any app data, pictures,etc or do I just loose the root
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Someone said that root does not matter, but you'll get OTAs if you're on stock. BUT you'll get an error trying to install the update if you're using TWRP or CWM.
You will keep your data and files, but will lose root.
gasparzim said:
Someone said that root does not matter, but you'll get OTAs if you're on stock. BUT you'll get an error trying to install the update if you're using TWRP or CWM.
You will keep your data and files, but will lose root.
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Is there a way to remove twrp without loosing any data(besides root) before the next offical update comes out?
androidpatel said:
Is there a way to remove twrp without loosing any data(besides root) before the next offical update comes out?
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Welcome to android and rooting your phone. Rest assured if a new version of android comes out it will be here just as fast as it will come to your phone. No need to worry about what may happen. Enjoy your rooted Nexus and try some enhanced stock options. Believe me the development in here will make you never miss a stock phone.
But to answer your question you can always use fastboot to obtain your factory recovery again but honestly its a much better world with custom recovery, kernel and enhanced stock rom... T9 missing from stock is a joke in my book
Edit: Also in the future its always good to google your question since I guarantee anything you can think of android related you probably was not the first. Your question is quite common and you may find answers from what others have said could be quite helpful to you
Take Care - welcome again
gasparzim said:
Someone said that root does not matter, but you'll get OTAs if you're on stock. BUT you'll get an error trying to install the update if you're using TWRP or CWM.
You will keep your data and files, but will lose root.
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I've used TWRP to flash every OTA update never had a problem. I also flash the SU zip right after so I don't lose root or my custom recovery
BLACKED OUT LTE N4
spaceman860 said:
I've used TWRP to flash every OTA update never had a problem. I also flash the SU zip right after so I don't lose root or my custom recovery
BLACKED OUT LTE N4
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You didn't loose any app data or pictures when you flashed the OTA file? Also, what is an SU zip?
androidpatel said:
You didn't loose any app data or pictures when you flashed the OTA file? Also, what is an SU zip?
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No you'll never loose anything with a OTA update. Super SU zip is how you get root find it here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1538053
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androidpatel said:
You didn't loose any app data or pictures when you flashed the OTA file? Also, what is an SU zip?
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Sounds like someone needs to start reading the wiki threads and basically taking their time and reading up on your phone, your root process and the issues and concerns of the N4. I would pull up google and start typing in your questions...
Hi folks! I have a Galaxy S4 GPE, rooted and unlocked, but stock otherwise. When I try to run the OTA update for 4.4.3, the phone reboots into TeamWin recovery and appears to start installing. The install errors out though. Can I not install the OTA update because I'm rooted? If so, would reverting the rooting allow me to install? Thanks in advance for any help you can provide!
Install Stock recovery and then try again
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Install Stock recovery and then try again
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Is there a thread on how to do that? I seem to remember when I installed this recovery tool to root the phone, it wiped everything. Is it going to do that again? Because I don't want to have to keep wiping my phone every time a new Android update comes out just to be rooted.
1337squirrel said:
Is there a thread on how to do that? I seem to remember when I installed this recovery tool to root the phone, it wiped everything. Is it going to do that again? Because I don't want to have to keep wiping my phone every time a new Android update comes out just to be rooted.
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Flash it via Odin or simply restore recovery from Nandroid backup..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2265477
this may help you..
1337squirrel said:
Hi folks! I have a Galaxy S4 GPE, rooted and unlocked, but stock otherwise. When I try to run the OTA update for 4.4.3, the phone reboots into TeamWin recovery and appears to start installing. The install errors out though. Can I not install the OTA update because I'm rooted? If so, would reverting the rooting allow me to install? Thanks in advance for any help you can provide!
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Follow this GUIDE (Method 1: Update Via Custom Recovery).
Joku1981 said:
Follow this GUIDE (Method 1: Update Via Custom Recovery).
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I went through that method, and it's essentially the same thing, except that I'm downloading the actual update file myself and not letting Android handle it. Needless to say it didn't work. I also updated my TWRP to 2.7.1.0 and tried; no luck. I also uninstalled SuperSU to see if removing root would help. It didn't.
1337squirrel said:
I went through that method, and it's essentially the same thing, except that I'm downloading the actual update file myself and not letting Android handle it. Needless to say it didn't work. I also updated my TWRP to 2.7.1.0 and tried; no luck. I also uninstalled SuperSU to see if removing root would help. It didn't.
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It's the problem of no read for be vague. It worked perfectly on the GPE of my sister. The update that appears in the website is ready for install it through custom recovery. Read all the guide:
I used Google's batch file on windows to flash the stock 5.0, having unlocked the bootloader and also installed the chainfire root. Just wondering whether I'll get any fixes, or whether i'll have to always repeat this process, wiping out everything on the device in the process.
You may get prompted to download and install new updates when they arrive, but they will fail upon installation unless you're 100% stock.
there will be an OTA update notification if you have stock rom wether you have a sotck or a custom recovery. But if you download and install the OTA update having a custom recovery, the installation will fail and will show an installation or update error. You will be stucked in "no command" image. so better restore your stock recovery as well before downloading any OTA updates..
igeigeige said:
there will be an OTA update notification if you have stock rom wether you have a sotck or a custom recovery. But if you download and install the OTA update having a custom recovery, the installation will fail and will show an installation or update error. You will be stucked in "no command" image. so better restore your stock recovery as well before downloading any OTA updates..
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Does the Google image download page (https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images) get updated as Lollipop gets updated? Or am I going to have to do OTA updates?
hmm.. im not sure which comes first.. but, if you want to get OTA, you'll have to wait for your device to get its turn for the notification to appear. The effect will still be the same though if you flash that google image to your device.. And flashing that device, will save you time from waiting for your OTA to appear on your device.
Cheers! :good:
igeigeige said:
hmm.. im not sure which comes first.. but, if you want to get OTA, you'll have to wait for your device to get its turn for the notification to appear. The effect will still be the same though if you flash that google image to your device.. And flashing that device, will save you time from waiting for your OTA to appear on your device.
Cheers! :good:
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Well, I'm a bit confused. I'm on stock, but i need root, so i installed cfar, which I think included super su. when a new version of super su came out (i was alerted via google play), i needed to install the twrp recovery (which I didn't have installed at that point) to update it. So I guess I'm not stock any more, even though I've not actually put a non-stock image on. So even if the OTA update message popped up, I doubt it's safe to install it that way, even if it let me. I'm just not sure whether I need to a factory reset/wipe etc before updating, or if I can do a dirty update (the OTA is effectively a dirty update, isn't it?). And, like i said, i'm not sure whether that page gets updated with new images, or whether you're supposed to just put the initial one down and then do OTA updates (and only then root, change the recovery etc).
You have a stock rom but with a CUSTOM recovery. Yes, ota will prompt you to update, but DON'T. You should convert to stock recovery first. Because if you do, the update will push through, but once it asks you to boot to make the update in effect, you will have a NO COMMAND error - bootloop, and only fastboot and recovery (sort of dysfunctional). Just like most of the people here, including me. So make backup of your files first before doing the update. Cheers :good:
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If having a custom recovery is an issue, why could I flash ota zips from custom recoveries ever since buying the tablet?
igeigeige said:
there will be an OTA update notification if you have stock rom wether you have a sotck or a custom recovery. But if you download and install the OTA update having a custom recovery, the installation will fail and will show an installation or update error. You will be stucked in "no command" image. so better restore your stock recovery as well before downloading any OTA updates..
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Should have read this first. In the bootloop. Tried flashing back to stuck with nexus toolkit. No luck. Suggestions?
Rizz67 said:
Should have read this first. In the bootloop. Tried flashing back to stuck with nexus toolkit. No luck. Suggestions?
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Hi, what i did was flashing the official factory image from google via fastboot/bootloader... Make a nandroid backup first though.. Because you'll need to clean flash (system partition/cache and data) to avoid future problems.
please educate me
A few weeks ago I rooted my N4 with CFAR (& of course had to wipe out everything). My understanding was that now that my bootloader is unlocked, I can sideload new images, thus sparing me a rewipe -- & in my ignorance, was anticipating that ChainFire would make 5.0.1 images in due course.
So, If I want to root subsequent 5.x.x releases, how would this work in real life??
Can i just restore stock recovery and then install the 5.0.1 ota update without losing everything?