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[TIPS AND DISCUSS] ICS update DOES NOT *ALWAYS* BREAK ROOT (& other tips and reviews)
This is not intended to be a bug-sharing thread, report them if you wish, but I'm sure there will be entire threads devoted to this, so keep this in mind when posting.
Yep, that's all I had to say, but if I posted in any of the ICS threads it would be buried. Dlpkgfile available HERE NOW!
luna_c666 said:
Yep, that's all I had to say, but if I posted in any of the ICS threads it would be buried. Dlpkgfile available HERE NOW!
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Cheers luna ... just need a WW version
Noob question though ..... I am on a custom ROM. I have CWM recovery.
I thought I couldnt update OTA if my TF was rooted ? or is it that I have the custom recovery that prevents this ?
I can flash back to stock easily - its removing CWM and unrooting that looked to be the more techie issue.
With what you are saying is there an easy way, once I have reverted to stock ROM, to revert to stock recovery without losing root ? Or do i even need to revert to stock ROM ??
Can update if rooted, but need to be on a stock ROM and stock Recovery image in order to successfully install. Download the 8.2.3.5 US recovery file located here :http://theunlockr.com/2011/11/28/how-to-unroot-and-remove-cwm-recovery-on-asus-transformer/, flash it through CWM and you have now overwritten your CWM and gone back to stock. Ready to update from there. Cheers!
so what is the procedure to update? Rename it, put it in microsd root and reboot into recovery?
another question, i cannot root with nachoroot, so is it possible to root with 1-click root?
asder00 said:
so what is the procedure to update? Rename it, put it in microsd root and reboot into recovery?
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That might work, I don't know exactly because I got the FOTA pushed to my device and updated through the 'official' update process. I honestly have no idea how the dlpkgfile is even packaged, if it is CWM flashable or requires stock recovery etc., honestly my first time fooling with capturing the OTA files.
Ok I'm trying and I will tell u....
I don't care about root right now...
luna_c666 said:
Can update if rooted, but need to be on a stock ROM and stock Recovery image in order to successfully install. Download the 8.2.3.5 US recovery file located here :http://theunlockr.com/2011/11/28/how-to-unroot-and-remove-cwm-recovery-on-asus-transformer/, flash it through CWM and you have now overwritten your CWM and gone back to stock. Ready to update from there. Cheers!
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Do I understand correctly that I only have to do Step 7 of the tutorial? and then install ICS (regular update process)?
I am rooted and I have CWM (no custom ROM)
So first impressions luna? Might as well start a discussion to keep the post on top and visible.
Did you run Spark? If so how does it compare?
Positives negatvies
Yes I do realise that you have had it for like 12 seconds but first impressions are nice.
Sent from my Sparkified TF101
Dreamboxuser said:
So first impressions luna? Might as well start a discussion to keep the post on top and visible.
Did you run Spark? If so how does it compare?
Positives negatvies
Yes I do realise that you have had it for like 12 seconds but first impressions are nice.
Sent from my Sparkified TF101
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Unfortunately I never did get around to trying the latest Spark, I saw the complaints about touchscreen issues and decided it might be best to wait for Paul to work it out, but Asus finally got the upper hand on him!
Seems a treat, but I expected as you can see I've been running CM9 on my epic for about 3 weeks now. Much snappier, generic comments that have already been posted- but not explored completely yet, too busy helping others get their own ICS since the update came in to be selfish and sign off yet
Steven, I'm not sure which step 7 you are referring to but you will need a stock recovery in order to flash the file. CWM will flash files that have been repacked for CWM usually, and OTA updates install from the cache partition so CWM will not be able to install the OTA. CWM can flash it manually, I THINK (not sure if it needs to be repackaged for that to occur or not), but CWM will not install the OTA through the normal OTA process.
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Steven, I'm not sure which step 7 you are referring to but you will need a stock recovery in order to flash the file. CWM will flash files that have been repacked for CWM usually, and OTA updates install from the cache partition so CWM will not be able to install the OTA. CWM can flash it manually, I THINK (not sure if it needs to be repackaged for that to occur or not), but CWM will not install the OTA through the normal OTA process.
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I was refering to step 7 on the Unlocker page you pointed to:
http://theunlockr.com/2011/11/28/how-to-unroot-and-remove-cwm-recovery-on-asus-transformer/
So in short only replace the recovery as explained in pojnt 7 (and 8) of that page and then do a regular system update to ICS.
No need to unroot??
Will this keep my apps and settings? I do have Titanium so I can do a backup and restore that way.
Thanks a lot for helping!!
Steven_nl said:
I was refering to step 7 on the Unlocker page you pointed to:
http://theunlockr.com/2011/11/28/how-to-unroot-and-remove-cwm-recovery-on-asus-transformer/
So in short only replace the recovery as explained in pojnt 7 (and 8) of that page and then do a regular system update to ICS.
No need to unroot??
Will this keep my apps and settings? I do have Titanium so I can do a backup and restore that way.
Thanks a lot for helping!!
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Yes, your apps and data should remain intact, and that is correct, you only need to flash the recovery back to stock if you are already on a stock ROM. As of right now, only US and TW firmware versions are getting the OTA pushed to their device, but if you are not one of these you can manually flash to these stock ROMs via CWM if need be. But yes, if you are stock + root + CWM, you only need to flash over CWM back to stock. Root is fine to keep and all data will be saved (it is an official update, people would be irate if it wiped their data you know!)
Great stuff thanks again. I'n in Europe so I might need to wait for a bit but that is fine.
No problem. Ok guys, I've done a bunch of talking and answered quite a few PMs, and posted all my methods/experience with ICS so far, now, I'm going to go play for a while (it's 7am, and I've not been to bed, and I have to work at 4pm and my son will likely be up in an hour, so no sleep for me today, should have a well-rounded review by the time you see me again)
If you guys want to keep this thread alive, have at it! Turn it into a discussion.. See you guys in a while, can't wait to see what I miss while I'm gone
Well I did the update with root disabled with rootkeeper but now rootkeeper will not restore Root.
I guess I should of read thi before updating
Anyone in the same state?
dmazyn said:
Well I did the update with root disabled with rootkeeper but now rootkeeper will not restore Root.
I guess I should of read thi before updating
Anyone in the same state?
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If you are SBK1 device you can flash CWM via NVFlash, use CWM to flash SU binary from ChainsDD (located HERE ) and then flash the stock recovery if you so choose to return to stock recovery (in case any patches or incremental updates come out you may need this if you want to stay stock ICS).
ONE MORE THING BEFORE I GO GUYS;
I just noticed that ICS brings a new recovery as well, so the update will overwrite your recovery, I assume it will do this if you figure out how to flash via CWM so be prepared for that. Any devs will want to work on removing the recovery blob from the patch file before releasing as a CWM flashable zip. My 2 cents. See you guys in a few hours/days, depending on how addicted I get to ICS.
Your dlpkgfile didn't work.. i need the WW version
Anyway I've rooted with nachoroot with stock asus recovery, waiting for ics update via FOTA
asder00 said:
Your dlpkgfile didn't work.. i need the WW version
Anyway I've rooted with nachoroot with stock asus recovery, waiting for ics update via FOTA
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You need to reflash with a US version not WW.
Sent from my Sparkified TF101
Confirmed working! thanks. too bad i have to go straight to work
Dreamboxuser said:
You need to reflash with a US version not WW.
Sent from my Sparkified TF101
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Ur right but i prefer to wait for ww
luna_c666 said:
Yep, that's all I had to say, but if I posted in any of the ICS threads it would be buried.
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After I updated to ICS, OTA Rootkeeper gave me the option to Restore root. Under the status section, Device rooted and Root permission granted were both unchecked until I used the Restore root option.
I have seen misinformation regarding the ota process on the nexus s repeated so many times and its driving me nuts so I made this thread.
1. You CAN be rooted. Yes you can. Anybody that says otherwise is wrong
2. You can have a custom recovery and you SHOULD! Unless you're going to be running a logcat and trying to grab the ota URL when it first starts rolling out there is no need for stock recovery. In fact. You WON'T be able to install it manually on stock recovery. Yes you WON'T. If you're on stock recovery you either have to wait for it to be pushed to your device or flash custom recovery and flash the update zip manually. You CAN'T manually do it with stock anymore. Anybody that says otherwise is wrong.
3. Bootloader unlocked has no.effect.
4. I am not going into what rom you need on the phone or what else the updater script checks for. Since I don't see people constantly misinformed about it.
Lastly. If you're not unlocked (bootloader) now and not rooted with custom recovery you will NOT be able to flash jelly bean as soon as the ota update zip is posted. You will have to wait for it be pushed to your device or unlock and flash custom recovery..
"Real ota(?)" Is pushed by google and installs automatically, IMO.
Sent from my Nexus S using xda app-developers app
albundy2010 said:
I have seen misinformation regarding the ota process on the nexus s repeated so many times and its driving me nuts so I made this thread.
1. You CAN be rooted. Yes you can. Anybody that says otherwise is wrong
2. You can have a custom recovery and you SHOULD! Unless you're going to be running a logcat and trying to grab the ota URL when it first starts rolling out there is no need for stock recovery. In fact. You WON'T be able to install it manually on stock recovery. Yes you WON'T. If you're on stock recovery you either have to wait for it to be pushed to your device or flash custom recovery and flash the update zip manually. You CAN'T manually do it with stock anymore. Anybody that says otherwise is wrong.
3. Bootloader unlocked has no.effect.
4. I am not going into what rom you need on the phone or what else the updater script checks for. Since I don't see people constantly misinformed about it.
Lastly. If you're not unlocked (bootloader) now and not rooted with custom recovery you will NOT be able to flash jelly bean as soon as the ota update zip is posted. You will have to wait for it be pushed to your device or unlock and flash custom recovery..
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1. Spot on, reading the update script it doesn't look for additional files. I said otherwise previously, my bad.
2. Also true. Updater script does no hash check on the two recovery files either, so even if you deleted /system/etc/install-recovery.sh it will still be fine. My bad also.
3. Spot on.
Thanks for this writeup albundy :good:
So I was running ics roms well before they came to my ns4g... I didn't bother with ota since there was already a port available almost immediately... that fixed most of the bugs we experienced with pre-ota ports...
My question is, I'm running RemICS UX v1.3... what would I need to do to get PTA when its available for our phones?
I'm sure they'll have a flashable rom almost immediately so this question might be null anyways... but it is good to know these things...
Sent from my Nexus S 4G using Tapatalk 2
ioplkj13 said:
"Real ota(?)" Is pushed by google and installs automatically, IMO.
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Yes, but the question is when that will happen. Google pushes updates in waves, it could take weeks before it gets pushed to your phone.
And all those people already getting anxious now how to prepare their phone for ota-push don't strike me as the waiting kind... in fact, it's really silly making all that fuzz now, still another 2 weeks before 4.1 gets released.
the1dynasty said:
My question is, I'm running RemICS UX v1.3... what would I need to do to get PTA when its available for our phones?
I'm sure they'll have a flashable rom almost immediately so this question might be null anyways... but it is good to know these things...
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So far the NS4G always had to wait to get an official update, Sprint taking it's time. The first OTA's will probably be for 9020T/9023 again, different radio. So unless you are willing to wait, you need a custom-zip anyway, don't use the dl-link from Google that will be floating around in 2 weeks.
But to answer your question:
First OTA's have always been incremental updates, so one needed to be on prior stock-rom to apply it. (In this case: 4.0.4 stock -> 4.1 update)
Of course they could change it this time and release everything at once (full rom, factory images, all models), but I heavily doubt it.
I'm on stock 4.0.4 rooted with no custom recovery. The way i see it i have 2 options:
1. Make an OTA update. I will not lose any app or data, but what about the root? It will be lost?
2. Flash CWM and the flash the update zip. In this case the root is surely gonna be in the zip file, but what about the apps and data. Will i lose them?
grigri444 said:
I'm on stock 4.0.4 rooted with no custom recovery. The way i see it i have 2 options:
1. Make an OTA update. I will not lose any app or data, but what about the root? It will be lost?
2. Flash CWM and the flash the update zip. In this case the root is surely gonna be in the zip file, but what about the apps and data. Will i lose them?
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Re #1: Yep, root will be lost. You shouldn't loose and app / data.
RE #2: You only loose data when you do 'wipe data' in CWM, which you should do when installing a new ROM.
If you install 'Titanuim Backup' you can back up and then later restore all your APPs. After you back up APPs, you will need to transfer these to a PC, and wipe the phone, install new ROM, and then transfer APP backups back to SD Card on phone, install them using Titanium Backup. The PRO version allows you to do this in batch mode (much quicker).
ac17 said:
Re #1: Yep, root will be lost. You shouldn't loose and app / data.
RE #2: You only loose data when you do 'wipe data' in CWM, which you should do when installing a new ROM.
If you install 'Titanuim Backup' you can back up and then later restore all your APPs. After you back up APPs, you will need to transfer these to a PC, and wipe the phone, install new ROM, and then transfer APP backups back to SD Card on phone, install them using Titanium Backup. The PRO version allows you to do this in batch mode (much quicker).
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I have Titanium backup pro. But which method is the wiser?
OTA and reroot or update zip and re-install all apps?
@ re #2: why the transfer of backups to PC?! They're saved on sdcard, it never gets wiped automatically (except when unlocking boot loader). And there's no need to do it manually.
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@ re #2: why the transfer of backups to PC?! They're saved on sdcard, it never gets wiped automatically (except when unlocking boot loader). And there's no need to do it manually.
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Because, i will make a wipe data in order to get a clean install of the new ROM. In our case the 4.1 stock.
you don't have to wipe sdcard to get a clean install... but go ahead, it won't do any harm.
will I get the OTA?
So I've got cyanogen mod 9 on my nexus s with Clockwork mod bootloader will I get the OTA update? if not what changes do I have change back? ps I would rather not format the Internal USB drive.
Ah you people complicated it for me, this is what I was thinking of doing
I'm on CyanogenMod 9 RC1, when Jelly Bean starts going OTA, there should be a flashable ZIP available, right? I know when I was on GB, and waiting for OTA for my country is never gonna happen, I just downloaded update.zip and flashed it.
1. Download ZIP, put it on SD Card, along with full stock 4.0.4 flashable ZIP, and Superuser.zip
2. Make Titanium Backup of apps
3. Go to CWM
4. Wipe data
5. Flash stock 4.0.4
6. Flash update to make it Jelly Bean
7. Flash Superuser
8. Boot to Jelly Bean
9. Explore around, download ROM Manager, install CWM again through it, because it will probably be gone once I boot into JB for the first time
10. Done
Correct me if I'm wrong.
JavaJunkay said:
Ah you people complicated it for me, this is what I was thinking of doing
I'm on CyanogenMod 9 RC1, when Jelly Bean starts going OTA, there should be a flashable ZIP available, right? I know when I was on GB, and waiting for OTA for my country is never gonna happen, I just downloaded update.zip and flashed it.
1. Download ZIP, put it on SD Card, along with full stock 4.0.4 flashable ZIP, and Superuser.zip
2. Make Titanium Backup of apps
3. Go to CWM
4. Wipe data
5. Flash stock 4.0.4
6. Flash update to make it Jelly Bean
7. Flash Superuser
8. Boot to Jelly Bean
9. Explore around, download ROM Manager, install CWM again through it, because it will probably be gone once I boot into JB for the first time
10. Done
Correct me if I'm wrong.
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Too many steps. From what i have learned, download the JB flashable zip (probably it will be available the same day when ota is pushed) put to sdcard, make a wipe data and flash through cwm. The ics zip was releashed the same day, was root, busybox and superuser.
On stock 4.0.4 official with custom recovery...
Download ota zip
Boot to custom recovery
Flash ota zip
Directly after ota zip finishes, flash latest Superuser.zip (In same recovery session)
Wipe cache
Reboot----> Now you have latest ota JellyBean with Root.
Change permissions of recovery-from-boot & install-recovery.sh to 000 (so you will keep custom recovery upon reboot)
Re-flash custom recovery with JoeyKrim's Flash_Image GUI
Hungry Hungry Hippo Time
Can you have a custom kernel ??
Sent from my Nexus S using xda app-developers app
snandlal said:
On stock 4.0.4 official with custom recovery...
Download ota zip
Boot to custom recovery
Flash ota zip
Directly after ota zip finishes, flash latest Superuser.zip (In same recovery session)
Wipe cache
Reboot----> Now you have latest ota JellyBean with Root.
Change permissions of recovery-from-boot & install-recovery.sh to 000 (so you will keep custom recovery upon reboot)
Re-flash custom recovery with JoeyKrim's Flash_Image GUI
Hungry Hungry Hippo Time
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Every stock zip contains a directory called "recovery". Delete it before flashing and you don't have to care about cwm getting overwritten.
btw are really needed only stock rom and stock kernel???
what about the 'ota survival' option present in superuser?
albundy2010 said:
I have seen misinformation regarding the ota process on the nexus s repeated so many times and its driving me nuts so I made this thread.
1. You CAN be rooted. Yes you can. Anybody that says otherwise is wrong
2. You can have a custom recovery and you SHOULD! Unless you're going to be running a logcat and trying to grab the ota URL when it first starts rolling out there is no need for stock recovery. In fact. You WON'T be able to install it manually on stock recovery. Yes you WON'T. If you're on stock recovery you either have to wait for it to be pushed to your device or flash custom recovery and flash the update zip manually. You CAN'T manually do it with stock anymore. Anybody that says otherwise is wrong.
3. Bootloader unlocked has no.effect.
4. I am not going into what rom you need on the phone or what else the updater script checks for. Since I don't see people constantly misinformed about it.
Lastly. If you're not unlocked (bootloader) now and not rooted with custom recovery you will NOT be able to flash jelly bean as soon as the ota update zip is posted. You will have to wait for it be pushed to your device or unlock and flash custom recovery..
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I suspect in some of the "misinformation" you have missed the distinction between preparing the phone for automatically receiving and automatically installing properly an actual Over the Air update from Google, vs. preparing for you actually installing an OTA file, or some form of new Jelly Bean. You don't explicitly make this distinction or don't really clearly say which you are discussing. The title of your post points one direction, but the contents the other. Or maybe the "rant" style of writing just confuses people more, including me.
Hello. I searched the forums and came up empty.
I have a stock 4.2 ROM I rooted. When the system says its updating and rebooting. It kicks me into recovery screen and does not up date.
Do I have to unroot and re lock the boot loader?
I know I'm probably just missing something stupid.
Thanks for any help.
If you were on a custom rom before then your recovery is probably messed up and not the stock recovery. Otherwise I do not know what it is that can be doing it because every time I would flash back to stock 4.2 I would get prompted to update to 4.2.1 and as well to note I have an unlocked bootloader and from what I have read before being rooted shouldnt make a difference.
Perhaps you could grab the toolkit and flash the stock recovery that is in it to your N7 and see if that helps you out.
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If you were on a custom rom before then your recovery is probably messed up and not the stock recovery. Otherwise I do not know what it is that can be doing it because every time I would flash back to stock 4.2 I would get prompted to update to 4.2.1 and as well to note I have an unlocked bootloader and from what I have read before being rooted shouldnt make a difference.
Perhaps you could grab the toolkit and flash the stock recovery that is in it to your N7 and see if that helps you out.
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Crap. I was hoping I didn't have to reflash. I dont have a custom ROM never have. I just unlocked this and rooted.
I'm going to try the toolkit when I get home revert from stock to stock, see if the update takes then.
Thanks for you help.
Edit. Looks like I have twrp recovery. This is my issue I assume. Is there a zip I can just flash to update
I have removed twrp back to stock recovery. Now when system reboots to install update, it stats the update then gives me a error. No error code just error. I really dont want to wipe my device as I have it setup for my liking.
I'm using wug's toolkit
I think (...and may be wrong...), but if you modified anything in /system (deleted any of the stock apps and/or updated them) it won't update either.
RMarkwald said:
I think (...and may be wrong...), but if you modified anything in /system (deleted any of the stock apps and/or updated them) it won't update either.
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I owe u a beer. I did add browser.apk to my system dir. I removed it and now I'm fully updated.
Thank you so much.
root keeper and I'm back in business.
I have a rooted (no CWM changed) and unlocked Nexus 4 with JB 4.3.
I did not get the OTA yet and I wondered if it is because the phone is rooted. In addition, I read some problems with people who tried to update to 4.4 with rooted phones and are getting infinite bootloops.
Do I have to unroot my 4.3 for getting the OTA and achieving a successful installation?
Thank you all on advance
gosku26 said:
I have a rooted (no CWM changed) and unlocked Nexus 4 with JB 4.3.
I did not get the OTA yet and I wondered if it is because the phone is rooted. In addition, I read some problems with people who tried to update to 4.4 with rooted phones and are getting infinite bootloops.
Do I have to unroot my 4.3 for getting the OTA and achieving a successful installation?
Thank you all on advance
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Why do you need OTA update when you can get the stock ROM in flashable zip file? All features are remain the same for stock ROM. Search and download it in the Development sections.
gosku26 said:
I have a rooted (no CWM changed) and unlocked Nexus 4 with JB 4.3.
I did not get the OTA yet and I wondered if it is because the phone is rooted. In addition, I read some problems with people who tried to update to 4.4 with rooted phones and are getting infinite bootloops.
Do I have to unroot my 4.3 for getting the OTA and achieving a successful installation?
Thank you all on advance
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I am rooted and received the OTA notification yesterday. You 'SHOULD' be able to install if ALL you did was root. However, if you applied any mods that made changes to the system, the OTA will fail.
taodan said:
Why do you need OTA update when you can get the stock ROM in flashable zip file? All features are remain the same for stock ROM. Search and download it in the Development sections.
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This is your best bet if you want to run 4.4. You'll need to install a custom recovery to flash the zip files. All the files and instructions are here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2527806
gbarayah said:
I am rooted and received the OTA notification yesterday. You 'SHOULD' be able to install if ALL you did was root. However, if you applied any mods that made changes to the system, the OTA will fail.
This is your best bet if you want to run 4.4. You'll need to install a custom recovery to flash the zip files. All the files and instructions are here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2527806
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Will flashing the stock 4.4 wipe my data, or it is like getting the OTA, that I keep my settings...?
gosku26 said:
Will flashing the stock 4.4 wipe my data, or it is like getting the OTA, that I keep my settings...?
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Did you read the linked post?
First step after installing custom recovery is to wipe data/factory reset, so yes, you will lose your settings.
taodan said:
Why do you need OTA update when you can get the stock ROM in flashable zip file? All features are remain the same for stock ROM. Search and download it in the Development sections.
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I would like to keep my settings if it's possible.
gbarayah said:
Did you read the linked post?
First step after installing custom recovery is to wipe data/factory reset, so yes, you will lose your settings.
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What I would like is to update to kitkat without losing my data.
I have the bootloader unlocked and the phone rooted, but when I go to recovery mode I get "No command" screen (is that normal?).
I was thinking of getting the phone unrooted, then update through the OTA, then root it again, just for making sure I don't break anything, but the "No command" screen does not look very good...
On the other hand, Would I lose my data if I "unroot" the phone?
gosku26 said:
What I would like is to update to kitkat without losing my data.
I have the bootloader unlocked and the phone rooted, but when I go to recovery mode I get "No command" screen (is that normal?).
I was thinking of getting the phone unrooted, then update through the OTA, then root it again, just for making sure I don't break anything, but the "No command" screen does not look very good...
On the other hand, Would I lose my data if I "unroot" the phone?
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To unroot, all you need to do is go into SuperSu, disable root, uninstall the app and then reboot the phone.
If all you have done is root the phone, and didn't modify anything else, then the OTA update 'SHOULD' install without a problem.
You can go to Android Police and download the OTA files and flash them via ADB, or you can just wait for the OTA to be pushed to your device.
If you decide to do it the manual way, there is one additional step you must take to ensure to keep your data I believe.
gbarayah said:
To unroot, all you need to do is go into SuperSu, disable root, uninstall the app and then reboot the phone.
If all you have done is root the phone, and didn't modify anything else, then the OTA update 'SHOULD' install without a problem.
You can go to Android Police and download the OTA files and flash them via ADB, or you can just wait for the OTA to be pushed to your device.
If you decide to do it the manual way, there is one additional step you must take to ensure to keep your data I believe.
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Thank you for your help gbarayah, I really appreciate it.
One last thing: I'm not pretty sure the only thing I modified was the rooting. I did not install any zip to modify my stock version, but there is something weird. I will explain:
At first I had 4.2.2, then I rooted and installed CWM. When 4.3 was released I got the OTA update correctly but I lost the root, so I rooted it again, this time without CWM.
Is the "No command" screen what is supposed to appear when I go to the recovery mode from fastboot menu? Or I would get a default recovery mode program?
If everything is right I will unroot for getting the OTA, but if not, I'm afraid I will have to flash CWM and the stock version, loosing my settings...
EDIT: Ok, I've just realized to get into stock system recovery I have to press VolUp and Power buttons once I'm in the 'No Command' screen, so I'm pretty sure I don't have problems installing the OTA update. Thank You!!!
gosku26 said:
Thank you for your help gbarayah, I really appreciate it.
One last thing: I'm not pretty sure the only thing I modified was the rooting. I did not install any zip to modify my stock version, but there is something weird. I will explain:
At first I had 4.2.2, then I rooted and installed CWM. When 4.3 was released I got the OTA update correctly but I lost the root, so I rooted it again, this time without CWM.
Is the "No command" screen what is supposed to appear when I go to the recovery mode from fastboot menu? Or I would get a default recovery mode program?
If everything is right I will unroot for getting the OTA, but if not, I'm afraid I will have to flash CWM and the stock version, loosing my settings...
EDIT: Ok, I've just realized to get into stock system recovery I have to press VolUp and Power buttons once I'm in the 'No Command' screen, so I'm pretty sure I don't have problems installing the OTA update. Thank You!!!
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Glad I could help. In the future, as long as you don't modify the system by flashing any modifications, you should be able to get the OTA update to install. Root doesn't affect this, and if you're worried about it, you can always uninstall it.
I opted to update using the stock zip files that were posted above and it worked just fine for me.
I used Google's batch file on windows to flash the stock 5.0, having unlocked the bootloader and also installed the chainfire root. Just wondering whether I'll get any fixes, or whether i'll have to always repeat this process, wiping out everything on the device in the process.
You may get prompted to download and install new updates when they arrive, but they will fail upon installation unless you're 100% stock.
there will be an OTA update notification if you have stock rom wether you have a sotck or a custom recovery. But if you download and install the OTA update having a custom recovery, the installation will fail and will show an installation or update error. You will be stucked in "no command" image. so better restore your stock recovery as well before downloading any OTA updates..
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there will be an OTA update notification if you have stock rom wether you have a sotck or a custom recovery. But if you download and install the OTA update having a custom recovery, the installation will fail and will show an installation or update error. You will be stucked in "no command" image. so better restore your stock recovery as well before downloading any OTA updates..
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Does the Google image download page (https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images) get updated as Lollipop gets updated? Or am I going to have to do OTA updates?
hmm.. im not sure which comes first.. but, if you want to get OTA, you'll have to wait for your device to get its turn for the notification to appear. The effect will still be the same though if you flash that google image to your device.. And flashing that device, will save you time from waiting for your OTA to appear on your device.
Cheers! :good:
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hmm.. im not sure which comes first.. but, if you want to get OTA, you'll have to wait for your device to get its turn for the notification to appear. The effect will still be the same though if you flash that google image to your device.. And flashing that device, will save you time from waiting for your OTA to appear on your device.
Cheers! :good:
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Well, I'm a bit confused. I'm on stock, but i need root, so i installed cfar, which I think included super su. when a new version of super su came out (i was alerted via google play), i needed to install the twrp recovery (which I didn't have installed at that point) to update it. So I guess I'm not stock any more, even though I've not actually put a non-stock image on. So even if the OTA update message popped up, I doubt it's safe to install it that way, even if it let me. I'm just not sure whether I need to a factory reset/wipe etc before updating, or if I can do a dirty update (the OTA is effectively a dirty update, isn't it?). And, like i said, i'm not sure whether that page gets updated with new images, or whether you're supposed to just put the initial one down and then do OTA updates (and only then root, change the recovery etc).
You have a stock rom but with a CUSTOM recovery. Yes, ota will prompt you to update, but DON'T. You should convert to stock recovery first. Because if you do, the update will push through, but once it asks you to boot to make the update in effect, you will have a NO COMMAND error - bootloop, and only fastboot and recovery (sort of dysfunctional). Just like most of the people here, including me. So make backup of your files first before doing the update. Cheers :good:
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If having a custom recovery is an issue, why could I flash ota zips from custom recoveries ever since buying the tablet?
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there will be an OTA update notification if you have stock rom wether you have a sotck or a custom recovery. But if you download and install the OTA update having a custom recovery, the installation will fail and will show an installation or update error. You will be stucked in "no command" image. so better restore your stock recovery as well before downloading any OTA updates..
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Should have read this first. In the bootloop. Tried flashing back to stuck with nexus toolkit. No luck. Suggestions?
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Should have read this first. In the bootloop. Tried flashing back to stuck with nexus toolkit. No luck. Suggestions?
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Hi, what i did was flashing the official factory image from google via fastboot/bootloader... Make a nandroid backup first though.. Because you'll need to clean flash (system partition/cache and data) to avoid future problems.
please educate me
A few weeks ago I rooted my N4 with CFAR (& of course had to wipe out everything). My understanding was that now that my bootloader is unlocked, I can sideload new images, thus sparing me a rewipe -- & in my ignorance, was anticipating that ChainFire would make 5.0.1 images in due course.
So, If I want to root subsequent 5.x.x releases, how would this work in real life??
Can i just restore stock recovery and then install the 5.0.1 ota update without losing everything?