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Hi guys! I got my Samsung galaxy s4 first day of release and I really like it, I had an iPhone before and I jailbroke it because it made it so much better, but the question is, is rooting just as good as jailbreaking? Should I root my galaxy s4? It can sometimes be a bit laggy on the home screen and was wondering if a custom rom would fix it?
Michael1290 said:
Hi guys! I got my Samsung galaxy s4 first day of release and I really like it, I had an iPhone before and I jailbroke it because it made it so much better, but the question is, is rooting just as good as jailbreaking? Should I root my galaxy s4? It can sometimes be a bit laggy on the home screen and was wondering if a custom rom would fix it?
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You don't need to root it, its already good enough and if the small lag bothers you, have you tried other launchers such as Nova launcher? It's almost lag free.
But if you want the best experience from your S4 then yes root it, try CF auto root, but remember you lose warranty and anything can go wrong, so try to follow instructions properly and always backup your important data.
Jason2k13 said:
You don't need to root it, its already good enough and if the small lag bothers you, have you tried other launchers such as Nova launcher? It's almost lag free.
But if you want the best experience from your S4 then yes root it, try CF auto root, but remember you lose warranty and anything can go wrong, so try to follow instructions properly and always backup your important data.
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Thanks for the reply, I did try go launcher but just couldn't get used to it so I went back, but will give nova launcher a go. If I did root is it easy to un root it if I don't like it?
Michael1290 said:
Thanks for the reply, I did try go launcher but just couldn't get used to it so I went back, but will give nova launcher a go. If I did root is it easy to un root it if I don't like it?
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Yes its very easy to un-root, you can always flash a stock rom via Odin, and some custom rom have an option to unroot your phone.
Jason2k13 said:
Yes its very easy to un-root, you can always flash a stock rom via Odin, and some custom rom have an option to unroot your phone.
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What about triangle away and resetting the binary counter back to zero? I think its not possible right now on i9500 variant.
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yes right now its not possible for the i9500
Rooting all depends on your usage.
The benefits being custom roms, but again it all depends if you want to keep flashing and ensuring you always maximize the phone to its full potential.
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super nice and very good !
THX
If you don't know exact reason why you want to root your phone then rooting just for rooting makes no sense. Root access by itself won't make your device any better. Also try to remember that there are many guys here that blow their phones by messing with them.
I've rooted my old sgs2 after few months and used it that way. After some time the only thing I needed root for was the possibility to move apps data to sdcard.
My sgs4 is not rooted for now because I don't need it. Playing with mods or "removing bloatware" is total nonsense to me as I prefer stable device. Also flashing custom roms is nor for me. So widely spoken app Titanium Backup I've used maybe twice in a year, the same I can say about clockwork mod. Just have no time to mess and repair all the time because I need working device as it helps me a lot in my work as smartphone and assistant, not as subject to experiments.
Guy from that video nicely explained what is root for and all of this is definitely true (part about security can be controversial because rooting and installing su does not patch security hole and permission prompt appear only when root access is achieved by su not by security hole), but for me in everyday use it turned to be as useful as towel for a fish.
Android by itself is very good in terms of functionality and far from being restricted in a apple way. You cannot compare root to jailbreak because jb on iphone is needed to get some basic functions. Android has all of this out of the box.
Remember also that rooted phone looses OTA upgrade possibility.
Everything depends on how you use your phone - there is the answer to your question
I am the complete opposite. If I have a device running an os, whether it be a computer, smartphone or whatever, I want full control of the device and it's os as it should be. I want full axx, full power of it.
edit: forgot why I came here in the first place, to the OP, glad you liked the vid and also glad my post wasn't wasted space like the majority of posts I see on here all the time, take it easy.
Rooting all depends on your need while using s4
If you're asking yourself that question then no, you shouldn't root it.
Ok so I live in Canada, and I plan on buying an unlocked Galaxy Note 3 from Rogers in December. I currently have a Galaxy S3 and it is rooted no triangle on boot or anything like that, so I am happy with my GS3 for now. Is it worth rooting the Note 3 when I get it? Will a giant orange triangle appear everytime I reboot the device? I plan on waiting about a month before I root it, if I do root it. I am not to worried about my warranty as I have never had to use a warranty on a phone before.
You wont see anything other than your model number & samsung logo during booting but you'll see some sort of knox warranty void 0x1 in download mode which means your phone is using custom kernel.
Whether it's worth to root or not i think it depends on you. Myself root my phone on the first day i own it after make sure i dont need the warranty. I dont care about the knox 0x1. Just cant stand with the stock look.
Rosli59564 said:
You wont see anything other than your model number & samsung logo during booting but you'll see some sort of knox warranty void 0x1 in download mode which means your phone is using custom kernel.
Whether it's worth to root or not i think it depends on you. Myself root my phone on the first day i own it after make sure i dont need the warranty. I dont care about the knox 0x1. Just cant stand with the stock look.
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AdFree is a must for me on any phone I own, I was more worried about having a giant orange triangle on the Samsung splash screen like other devices. Or knox doing something to the phone after I rooted it.
rooting has been worthwhile for me
Titanium Backup is awesome in getting rid of the bloatware
Greenify is great in making sure apps do not stay awake
Xposed Framework is awesome in installing modules that add much functionality
-Instagram Photo Download
-Wanam Xposed
-Xposed Additions (Longpress Back to Open Recent Apps, etc)
Cheating in games with game killer can't be done without root.
And since I spent $5 of real money, and you can't transfer the credits over to my new phone, I'm going to cheat.
So if you feel like I do, and feel cheated, cheat yourself the money with game killer and get root.
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Rosli59564 said:
You wont see anything other than your model number & samsung logo during booting but you'll see some sort of knox warranty void 0x1 in download mode which means your phone is using custom kernel.
Whether it's worth to root or not i think it depends on you. Myself root my phone on the first day i own it after make sure i dont need the warranty. I dont care about the knox 0x1. Just cant stand with the stock look.
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This. I rooted and xposed my note to change the colour scheme but even if you like Everyrhing about touchwiz, it is worth it to be able to use any app in multiwindow.
Rooting
Iam just scared about the flash counter
Not rooted as I can get the look and feel using nova or apex. Rooted my SGN2 but missed some of the special samsung stuff.
May change when there is a stable 4.4 if samsung take their time. Just my 2c
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I thought there is a root method without tripping the Knox counter >> "de la Vega" and kingo. right?
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Killberty said:
Dont use kingo its a spy app...
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Don't believe everything you read. It's amazing how speculation and rumors turn into "fact" in this forum...especially if it's negative.
I recommend that people do their own, in depth research and them make an educated decision.
if u r not worried about warranty
if u r not worried about warranty it is always better to root cos you get so much more options to play around with which you wouldnt have otherwise
Depends what you want to do, Do you need root? - Do you need to remove apps? - Like choosing something, it's all personal preference... If you need root then root your phone, If you can live without it and don't need it. Then don't.
I still haven't rooted mine.
rooted mine from day 1 too. Mostly for my sixaxis app, controller support for my games
OT: plus i think it is worth it; with root you can get another, better and more optimized, rom.
I still believe if you have to ask you don't need it....
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I still believe if you have to ask you don't need it....
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Agreed. I have always rooted my devices but take my time to read with each new device since they're all a bit different. I'm curious if I root with the knox free setting if I can revert fully to stock or only fake non custom status. What's the best method to use for Canadian variant of note 3?
adampollack said:
Agreed. I have always rooted my devices but take my time to read with each new device since they're all a bit different. I'm curious if I root with the knox free setting if I can revert fully to stock or only fake non custom status. What's the best method to use for Canadian variant of note 3?
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Have reverted back to fully official once stock rom was flashed. Only modified status when rooted as you can't run the fake "official" status as wanam needs root priveleges...
ultramag69 said:
Have reverted back to fully official once stock rom was flashed. Only modified status when rooted as you can't run the fake "official" status as wanam needs root priveleges...
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:good:
Just to confirm, I can use Root de la Vega and enjoy all the benefits of rooting without tripping KNOX, but can still reflash (via odin?) the stock rom and be back to factory/warranty settings with STOCK STATUS? That's all I'm interested in at this point, no custom roms or recoveries.
Thanks again for your help! I am just extra cautious :fingers-crossed:
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Just to confirm, I can use Root de la Vega and enjoy all the benefits of rooting without tripping KNOX, but can still reflash (via odin?) the stock rom and be back to factory/warranty settings with STOCK STATUS? That's all I'm interested in at this point, no custom roms or recoveries.
Thanks again for your help! I am just extra cautious :fingers-crossed:
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yes you just have to unroot using the supersu itself, then flash your stock rom with odin, factory reset. everything will be stock new. even status will revert from custom to official.
I am worried that the samsung knox will ruin my device.So should I update or not.What if I got bored of touchwiz and wanted to flash a new rom
Does updating mean I will lose the ability to root and flash forever?
If you search the forum you will see someone already posted a rom with the knox striped. Wait a bit longer and I am sure more versions will be coming.
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also it seems across a lot of Samsung devices 4.3 drains the battery faster, correct me if this is crap
help pls...
guys,,,then..cant we use odin or enythin els to flash the custom roms after installin official note 4.3 update which has knox??
any how my 1 year warranty got over...m not bothered about the warranty m just worried of gettin my phone bricked....so pls suggest what would happen......
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guys,,,then..cant we use odin or enythin els to flash the custom roms after installin official note 4.3 update which has knox??
any how my 1 year warranty got over...m not bothered about the warranty m just worried of gettin my phone bricked....so pls suggest what would happen......
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as far as i did understand that, it is a question of the new bootloader, where a knox flag shows your flashing orgies, which cannot be resetted at the time (no triangle away can help us so far)...so if you try to get away from the original firmware, you raise the counter and void your warranty...well, if you had one
anyway, if you have no warranty, you can show your backside to knox. nothing will happen, but a flash counter shows what you were doing...
please be careful, of course you can brick your phone with flashing, as always, but this will not have anything to do with knox!
EDIT: the only thing is, there is no possibility to downgrade the bootloader by now! so, you cannot simply go back to 4.1! but you can of course flash 4.3 custom roms...
I still don't get why Samsung has this Knox thing. As far as I know, here in the EU, rooting and flashing ROMs does not void the warranty unless it is proven that the malfunction came from the owner messing with the software. So, having Knox raising a counter or flag the device or whatever, is pretty useless, at least here in the EU. We already have the flash counter. The only advantage may be that with Knox, there is no way to conceal the precious flashes and that we can claim the warranty when we DID messed up the phone somehow, because if we didn't, the warranty is still active.
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I still don't get why Samsung has this Knox thing. As far as I know, here in the EU, rooting and flashing ROMs does not void the warranty unless it is proven that the malfunction came from the owner messing with the software. So, having Knox raising a counter or flag the device or whatever, is pretty useless, at least here in the EU. We already have the flash counter. The only advantage may be that with Knox, there is no way to conceal the precious flashes and that we can claim the warranty when we DID messed up the phone somehow, because if we didn't, the warranty is still active.
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Not sure about n2 but with n3 physical damage, in the form of a broken efuse, is actually the result of tripping knox. So even under eu regulations, the warranty is void once knox is tripped.
Bruce lee roy said:
Not sure about n2 but with n3 physical damage, in the form of a broken efuse, is actually the result of tripping knox. So even under eu regulations, the warranty is void once knox is tripped.
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What a cheap trick they made. Since modifying software does not void warranty, they make a little piece of hardware get damaged so the warranty gets void even though that the so called e-fuse is non-essential (I think) for the smartphone correct functioning . Wow, that is even worst that what I was thinking. Samsung really messed up this time, what's the point of having an Android then? So, after all, we people from the EU, can't get away with our flashes and customizations...
Thanks for the info, btw.
Stick to 4.1.2 and enjoy mindless flashing of custom roms.
Let't go!!!
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frnds.....
1)I am on stock 4.1.2 , non rooted..I never tried to root as I didnt want to loose my warranty..but now my 1 year warrant has got over..so I am planning to root my device and install custom roms to it as I am fed up of these samsung updates...so can I pls get a appropriate link where in I can get a clear instructions to root my note 2 n7100 and install custom roms...
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2) if I install ditto note 3 4.3 rom for note 2 can I get back to the older versions of android like 4.1.2 official or custom or 4.2 custom roms...?? and
3)is knox present on custom ditto note3 4.3 rom for note 2??
thank u...
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frnds.....
1)I am on stock 4.1.2 , non rooted..I never tried to root as I didnt want to loose my warranty..but now my 1 year warrant has got over..so I am planning to root my device and install custom roms to it as I am fed up of these samsung updates...so can I pls get a appropriate link where in I can get a clear instructions to root my note 2 n7100 and install custom roms...
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2) if I install ditto note 3 4.3 rom for note 2 can I get back to the older versions of android like 4.1.2 official or custom or 4.2 custom roms...?? and
3)is knox present on custom ditto note3 4.3 rom for note 2??
thank u...
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Knox has been deleted at the DN3 Rom.
Anyways AFAIK you flash DN3 Rom from Stock 4.1.2 the Bootloader will be still the old one and you have to use the wifi fix.
Petarsson said:
as far as i did understand that, it is a question of the new bootloader, where a knox flag shows your flashing orgies, which cannot be resetted at the time (no triangle away can help us so far)...so if you try to get away from the original firmware, you raise the counter and void your warranty...well, if you had one
anyway, if you have no warranty, you can show your backside to knox. nothing will happen, but a flash counter shows what you were doing...
please be careful, of course you can brick your phone with flashing, as always, but this will not have anything to do with knox!
EDIT: the only thing is, there is no possibility to downgrade the bootloader by now! so, you cannot simply go back to 4.1! but you can of course flash 4.3 custom roms...
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yeah agree totally on this,. they make sure you only have 1 way go to up in version of rom without able to go back down to older rom by locking it with knox,. it is very cheap method samsung is using this time, kind of what's else is the point of not able to flashing all fancy custom rom ?
Ditto Note 3 is awesome. They just released v3 and works great. I was on 4.1.2 for the longest time then updated to 4.3 official release but Knox was so annoying I have decided to go for custom rom and I am very happy so far.
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agree with you
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Hobbygamer27 said:
Knox has been deleted at the DN3 Rom.
Anyways AFAIK you flash DN3 Rom from Stock 4.1.2 the Bootloader will be still the old one and you have to use the wifi fix.
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thanks for the response bro...
1)well...after flashin the dn3 custom rom..can I still flash back to stock 4.1.2 in case if I face any problems with dn3 rom??
2) will I loose my imei if I flash from stock 4.1.2 to dn3 rom or when i flash back to stock 4.1.2 rom from custom rom??
3) if yes, how can I secure my imei,, I hav heard about some efs stuff..how to back up it and keep it safe and can I know in what situation will this efs be use ful??
4)I am from india and my version of stock android is shown in the fig below
can u pls tell me wer can I find a odin flashable stock rom similar to mine which is as follows
baseband:N7100DDDMG1
Build number:N7100XXDMGI
Thank you.....
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1. Yes Flashback should be possible.
2+3. In any case do a backup of your imei, there are various possibilties but you need root.
After several days of sheer frustration with 4.3 constantly rebooting, freezing my phone, causing the "black screen of death", numerous force closes, broken apps and producing many permission related errors which can be seen in logcat, I downgraded to 4.1.2 this morning and haven't had a single issue in 12 hours. I have no good reason to ever change my firmware from 4.1.2. It's solid as a rock and trouble-free. Maybe if stability improves on 4.3, I may try it out again in six months.
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I am not eager to flash, but because I have a gear now, I updated to open Asia mj5 4.3.
Rock solid until now, gear works 100%.
The only worry I have is future updates, because mj5 is a "leak".
But, mj5 is stable for me, although it seems a bit slower at times as the 4.1.2
Never rooted, standard all the way.
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Batteriah said:
What a cheap trick they made. Since modifying software does not void warranty, they make a little piece of hardware get damaged so the warranty gets void even though that the so called e-fuse is non-essential (I think) for the smartphone correct functioning . Wow, that is even worst that what I was thinking. Samsung really messed up this time, what's the point of having an Android then? So, after all, we people from the EU, can't get away with our flashes and customizations...
Thanks for the info, btw.
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Guys, I don't think KNOX e-fuse is there to void the warranty or for Samsung to know if you flashed your device or not. KNOX e-fuse is there so that you know if the phone has been messed up with if you actualy use KNOX. This is for the COMPANIES that need enhanced security etc. And for this security there must be a way to tell if the device has been messed with. For most people that don't use company phone (and for majority of those who do) KNOX is not interesting because they don't need it. But I understand why banks and other institutions that demand security would need it.
So it is no cheap trick by Samsung to get to void ordinary user's warranty, it is a security measure which only some companies will use.
Hey!
So yeah Iv'e been root-phobic ever since I bricked my old Ace Plus back in the day, and Iv'e been satisfied with non-root for a while.
But now the advantages of root are tempting me to go back. Iv'e always hated the fact that you can't disable the camera sound and the bloatware takes necessary space, and let's not forget all the apps that have special root features.
The thing is I'm ready to root again but then I realized rooting would change my phones status to "modified," and I won't be able to update my firmware. And that's a no-no since I'm expecting to ( hopefully ) get 4.3 soon.
So my question is: If I root, remove all the c**p I want to ( camera sound, bloatware ), and then unroot, will my phone status still be modified or will the unoot send it back to normal, so I can update? I hope it does! :fingers-crossed:
Thanks!
I think once you root your phone it will stay modified forever, but still, having a rooted S3 is so much better, i have 4.4.1 with CM and its something that I think will never come to our S3, so..
I rooted mine two weeks before I bought it, ****ed it up and fixed it many times...
The choice is yours to make
Yes you can go back to official status even after rooting and flashing custom roms multiple times.
This can be done by resetting the flash counter via Triangle Away and flashing a stock Rom.
Check your Build version and CSC now by dialing *#1234#
Better yet download from Samfirmware your current firmware in case you want to go back to it later.
Also you may want to look at these threads:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=42568033
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33817354
Also it's a good practice to backup your EFS, if you're still on efs v1, and keep it in a safe place like your ext sd card or your PC before flashing another Rom or firmware.
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GrippingSphere said:
Yes you can go back to official status even after rooting and flashing custom roms multiple times.
This can be done by resetting the flash counter via Triangle Away and flashing a stock Rom.
Check your Build version and CSC now by dialing *#1234#
Better yet download from Samfirmware your current firmware in case you want to go back to it later.
Also you may want to look at these threads:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=42568033
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33817354
Also it's a good practice to backup your EFS, if you're still on efs v1, and keep it in a safe place like your ext sd card or your PC before flashing another Rom or firmware.
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Ehhh. I think I'll root after I get the update. I'm not looking to mess anything up right now
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Ehhh. I think I'll root after I get the update. I'm not looking to mess anything up right now
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Dun think u shld root. U seem like u dk wat u are doing.
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Hi guys, after overthinking it *way* too much I decided to order a new S7E through my provider (T-mobile) in Holland.
I was afraid to get one because i'm clumsy as hell and drop my phones hundreds of time. Till now i've always been extremely lucky (S1, S3, G3) but the S7 is very shatter prone to say the least...
After reading countless threads and videos about screenprotectors (liquid, TG, plastic, cases) I still don't know what to choose
Anyway, I'm getting it tomorrow and I read that knox get tripped as soon as you root.
Does anyone in Holland have experience with warranty being rejected because knox was tripped?
I think I really want to root (Titanium backup, xposed mods, several apps that work better with root) but maybe I'll have to hold off until I know for sure that the hardware is working fine?
So IF I decide to go for it and root with CF-Root, is it true that when using Flashfire you basically don't need TWRP anymore as you can flash zipfiles and create/restore backups with it?
And when you root, do you immediately lose automatic OTA? Or do you lose that when flashing a customized rom?
Thanks for any tips
if you install customized rom so need TRWP !
get new s7 phone
- no install new system update
- odin flash CF auto root - http://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-edge/development/sm-g935-exynos-cf-auto-root-t3337354
- odin flash TRWP
after
- TRWP install Phoenix ROM
- TRWP install Protheus Kernel
- enjoy your Life and great phone
Dont go for the glass protector try to get a solution based screen protector And if you care for warranty dont root, until rooting without tripping knox possible .
Flashing custom rom will loose the ability to OTA. But, most custom roms support their own OTA
I am not on the only root thing, it is always better to have a custom recovery when you are in to modding.
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if you install customized rom so need TRWP !
get new s7 phone
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I will certainly look into optimized stock roms as soon as I have rooted, the question still is, to root or not to root
I'm curious to know how warranty reparations in Holland end up when you've rooted your device.
sohojmanush said:
Dont go for the glass protector try to get a solution based screen protector And if you care for warranty dont root, until rooting without tripping knox possible .
Flashing custom rom will loose the ability to OTA. But, most custom roms support their own OTA
I am not on the only root thing, it is always better to have a custom recovery when you are in to modding.
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I've normally not been really worried about warranty, but i've read many warnings from people here that your screen might go bad after a month or two, so I guess I want knox to be untripped :|
And you're right, when using custom roms it might be safer to have TWRP to come to the rescue when needed.
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I'm curious to know how warranty reparations in Holland end up when you've rooted your device.
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in Europe root phones , maybe no warranty.
only UK have warranty with Root Phone
Try not to drop it.
latino147 said:
I will certainly look into optimized stock roms as soon as I have rooted, the question still is, to root or not to root
I'm curious to know how warranty reparations in Holland end up when you've rooted your device.
I've normally not been really worried about warranty, but i've read many warnings from people here that your screen might go bad after a month or two, so I guess I want knox to be untripped :|
And you're right, when using custom roms it might be safer to have TWRP to come to the rescue when needed.
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Actually for Samsung it doesn't matter , get Smart Switch> Download mode > brand new OS > (Except) Knox tripped . But, Smart Switch take ages to download .. to me no matter how fast my connection is. you know OEM server's are always slow