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Point Of Rooting at this time?

Is there really a point to root right now with not many Roms to load etc. Still kinda new to Android so bare with me. Yes I would love to get rid of this Rogers bloatware.

Dx9 said:
Is there really a point to root right now with not many Roms to load etc. Still kinda new to Android so bare with me. Yes I would love to get rid of this Rogers bloatware.
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Depends if you like to use apps that require root? Tether? Titanium? etc...

Yes de bloat your phone run a nanodroid lol and access other apps that require root

SetCPU...flash custom apps/mods.etc

Ad Away, Titanium Backup, Tethering, freeze/remove bloatware.....

If you're like me... in case a ROM pops up while you're out and about and you can't wait to get home and root then flash it. That's actually the sole reason I'm rooted now
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What everyone else said. I almost always stick with stock ROMS with root and s-off so I can remove bloatware and run android wifi tether and titanium backup.

Root makes it a more enjoyable device IMO. That alone makes it worth it (The roms even more so of course)

Im waiting for a one-click method like there is for my ET4G.

incubus26jc said:
Depends if you like to use apps that require root? Tether? Titanium? etc...
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All canadien service providers allow tethering.
But to answer his question, yes, rooting the device is not only about roms, its about CPU management, running root options on apps like juice defender and mybackup pro, in my case i need root and recovery to run ceberus from CWM to make sure if i get my phone stolen i can always track and recover it no matter how many times the thief factory resets it. Android is a beautiful OS, rooting is an extra bonus...but i could very well live without it (if touchwiz wasnt so damn ugly)

ReggieTee said:
Im waiting for a one-click method like there is for my ET4G.
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If you can post on a web board you are saavy enough to root this phone via odin. The instructions are not difficult to follow and the whole process takes less than 15 minutes

Darmokk said:
If you can post on a web board you are saavy enough to root this phone via odin. The instructions are not difficult to follow and the whole process takes less than 15 minutes
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yeah.
i'm an idiot, and it took me 4 minutes.

New to Android here too. I have to follow a method that doesn't increase the 'counter' to preserve the warranty right?

I did it to freeze all the bloatware Sprint and Samsung added to the s3. Also, so I can use apps that require superuser permissions.

[Q] First time Tablet/Android buyer.

Hello all,
I just ordered a new Note 10.1 from Costco.com (32 gig) and from reading reviews and such I was thrown into the world of rooting. For my job, we were given iPhones so I've really only had an iPhone and am used to the iOS. Not a fan. Have always wanted to try Android but have never been thrown into it.
Are there any good guides out there to help me better understand rooting, etc.? I understand that you have to unlock it, then flash a custom ROM. What happens when the newer version of that ROM comes out? Do you lose all of your Data? Can any mod be installed on any ROM? I just don't have a good understanding of how or what to do. Granted, I don't even have the tablet yet, however, I don't want to be completely lost when I get it. I do like the idea of rooting, given that you can install powerful apps that are only offered to rooted tablets.
This is my first post here and am hoping for some helpful responses of maybe some threads that I should read to help me understand things better.
Also, where do you find custom ROMS? Is there a certain section you have to go? Or are all the custom ROMS under the ANDROID DEVELOPMENT forum?
Thanks for the help.

Rooting gives you access to the base files of your device. Your device does not need to be "unlocked." That term refers to modifying the device to work with other carriers (i.e. Sprint, ATT, etc) other than the one it was built to work with. Basically, in order to root, you must first install a custom "recovery." CWM (Clockwork Mod Recovery) is probably the best one for our Notes. The recovery files can be downloaded in the development forums. Along with the program (Odin) that you use to get the recovery installed onto your Note. Once you have CWM installed you can then use a couple of different methods to root or install a custom rom that is already rooted (again look for these roms in the development areas of this forum). Make sure that you read and re-read the instructions that each developer lists on their forum until you feel comfortable and then follow the instructions to the letter! Not doing so can result in your Note really getting messed up. I have not rooted my note yet, however I have rooted and installed custom ROMs to several android phones that I have or have had and it can be really worth it to do so. Personally I am waiting for awhile with my Note for some easier and more reliable methods and ROMs to become available. Right now, I have a Samsung Infuse phone with CM10 installed and a Samsung Captivate with Slim Rom-Jellybean on it. I believe that early versions of both of these ROMs are already available for the Note 10.1. Of the two ROMs, I would probably go with CM10 - (Cyanogen Mod) as it seems to be more stable on my phones. Also, when you install a custom ROM on the Note 10.1, there is a binary counter that advances, that lets anyone who would have to work on it (like for warranty service), know that a custom ROM was installed and that would violate your warranty. There is already a modification available (again, in the development section), that resets this counter, so make sure that you research that too! Good Luck!!!

wd4oay said:
Rooting gives you access to the base files of your device. Your device does not need to be "unlocked." That term refers to modifying the device to work with other carriers (i.e. Sprint, ATT, etc) other than the one it was built to work with. Basically, in order to root, you must first install a custom "recovery." CWM (Clockwork Mod Recovery) is probably the best one for our Notes. The recovery files can be downloaded in the development forums. Along with the program (Odin) that you use to get the recovery installed onto your Note. Once you have CWM installed you can then use a couple of different methods to root or install a custom rom that is already rooted (again look for these roms in the development areas of this forum). Make sure that you read and re-read the instructions that each developer lists on their forum until you feel comfortable and then follow the instructions to the letter! Not doing so can result in your Note really getting messed up. I have not rooted my note yet, however I have rooted and installed custom ROMs to several android phones that I have or have had and it can be really worth it to do so. Personally I am waiting for awhile with my Note for some easier and more reliable methods and ROMs to become available. Right now, I have a Samsung Infuse phone with CM10 installed and a Samsung Captivate with Slim Rom-Jellybean on it. I believe that early versions of both of these ROMs are already available for the Note 10.1. Of the two ROMs, I would probably go with CM10 - (Cyanogen Mod) as it seems to be more stable on my phones. Also, when you install a custom ROM on the Note 10.1, there is a binary counter that advances, that lets anyone who would have to work on it (like for warranty service), know that a custom ROM was installed and that would violate your warranty. There is already a modification available (again, in the development section), that resets this counter, so make sure that you research that too! Good Luck!!!
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What are some of the main benefits to rooting then? I would think that if you have rooted a lot of phones you would for sure want your tablet rooted..?? Can you still perform mods to your tablet if it's NOT rooted? I saw someone with a cube on their homescreen with all their apps on it. It was 3D and pretty sweet looking. Will I be able to do stuff like that if I keep it stock.
Another thing, I read that you can't put apps on the expandable storage unless you root it...That is something I would like to do because I plan on putting games on it and such. Seems crappy you can't install some of the bigger apps on your 64 gig sd.

A lot is going to depend on which version of software you get initially on your tablet. Do not, I repeat, DO NOT let your tablet update the software when you first get it. The reason I say this is, if you have the older version of the software there is a very simple way to root your device. It's a simple install of one program and pushing a button. Very very easy.
If you get lucky and you get the older software and then root using the program I'm talking about, the next step is to spend $5 and buy Mobile Odin Pro. You can then download from here the latest software for your device and flash it using Mobile Odin with the ever root option. This will keep root on your new software. This will put you on the latest stock software and keep you rooted.
Custom ROMs can be nice. But I'd get my feet wet with the stock ROM before you start to jump into the Customs. First, stock on the Note 10.1 is pretty damn good. Second, you need to have some familiarity with what you want to be able to choose the right custom ROM to suit your needs. Finally, you'll give yourself some time to learn about your device so that you don't make a fatal mistake flashing, though most can be flashed using Mobile Odin.
Alas, if you get your Note and it turns out to have the latest ROM already, you can pretty much ignore everything I wrote.

just to give you one more thing to think about.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1957002
stock is nice btw

midas69 said:
A lot is going to depend on which version of software you get initially on your tablet. Do not, I repeat, DO NOT let your tablet update the software when you first get it. The reason I say this is, if you have the older version of the software there is a very simple way to root your device. It's a simple install of one program and pushing a button. Very very easy.
If you get lucky and you get the older software and then root using the program I'm talking about, the next step is to spend $5 and buy Mobile Odin Pro. You can then download from here the latest software for your device and flash it using Mobile Odin with the ever root option. This will keep root on your new software. This will put you on the latest stock software and keep you rooted.
Custom ROMs can be nice. But I'd get my feet wet with the stock ROM before you start to jump into the Customs. First, stock on the Note 10.1 is pretty damn good. Second, you need to have some familiarity with what you want to be able to choose the right custom ROM to suit your needs. Finally, you'll give yourself some time to learn about your device so that you don't make a fatal mistake flashing, though most can be flashed using Mobile Odin.
Alas, if you get your Note and it turns out to have the latest ROM already, you can pretty much ignore everything I wrote.
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That's good to know. Thank you.
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just to give you one more thing to think about.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1957002
stock is nice btw
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Thank you. I'll check that out. Now, the process that you linked me to, will that give me the latest version ROM (4.2.1?). Another thing, once I root it, will I be able to have the Tablet automatically update and download 4.3, 4.4, etc. and so on? or will I have to manually download and install the new one every time it comes out?

I read in sammobile that samsung will launch Note 8.0, it is true?
What do you think?

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That's good to know. Thank you.
Thank you. I'll check that out. Now, the process that you linked me to, will that give me the latest version ROM (4.2.1?). Another thing, once I root it, will I be able to have the Tablet automatically update and download 4.3, 4.4, etc. and so on? or will I have to manually download and install the new one every time it comes out?
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I have rooted several phones but not this tablet. Why? because for me the stock rom is good enough that I personally dont see an advantage to rooting it. Some like to root and install roms for the fun of it but I need the tablet to work and dont have time to futs around with getting to know a new rom.
I also have the impression,correct me if I'm wrong, that with custom roms you loose some of the multiscreen functionality and some of the pen functionality? If true that alone would keep me on stock.

optimus43 said:
I have rooted several phones but not this tablet. Why? because for me the stock rom is good enough that I personally dont see an advantage to rooting it. Some like to root and install roms for the fun of it but I need the tablet to work and dont have time to futs around with getting to know a new rom.
I also have the impression,correct me if I'm wrong, that with custom roms you loose some of the multiscreen functionality and some of the pen functionality? If true that alone would keep me on stock.
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There's more reasons to root other than just flashing custom ROMs. As a matter of fact, you really don't even have to root to install a custom ROM, you just need a custom recovery installed.
Personally I'm fine with the stock ROM on this tablet even though I run custom ROMs on my phones. I did have a custom ROM installed for a few weeks that was little more than the stock ROM with a few tweaks. It didn't lose any functionality with regards to multi-screen or pen. But some of the other more customized ROMs do lose functionality.

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I have rooted several phones but not this tablet. Why? because for me the stock rom is good enough that I personally dont see an advantage to rooting it. Some like to root and install roms for the fun of it but I need the tablet to work and dont have time to futs around with getting to know a new rom.
I also have the impression,correct me if I'm wrong, that with custom roms you loose some of the multiscreen functionality and some of the pen functionality? If true that alone would keep me on stock.
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The only thing I care about is having the ability to install Google Apps that can only be installed on rooted ROMS. I've read that there are a lot of great apps for rooted ONLY tablets. Also, some of those 3D cube thingy's that have all the app icons on it are kind of cool. I don't know if you can install those on a stock ROM..??

deeselcyde said:
That's good to know. Thank you.
Thank you. I'll check that out. Now, the process that you linked me to, will that give me the latest version ROM (4.2.1?). Another thing, once I root it, will I be able to have the Tablet automatically update and download 4.3, 4.4, etc. and so on? or will I have to manually download and install the new one every time it comes out?
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no, it leaves the firmware as is and it simply gives you root access, i.e. administrative control over just about all processes that the tablet is capable of. It also allows you to flash custom ROMS. that method, along with the exynos exploit method ( not possible on 4.1.2), leave you as close to stock as possible . and leaves the official recovery. Someone will undoubtedly correct me if I am wrong, but so long as you don't flash a custom ROM, I believe you can still update through OTA. I know you can through KIES. If you do go with a custom ROM, I'm pretty sure you lose all the touch wiz goodies, like multi screen as another noted above. and likely would have to use ODIN or mobile ODIN to update.

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What are some of the main benefits to rooting then? I would think that if you have rooted a lot of phones you would for sure want your tablet rooted..?? Can you still perform mods to your tablet if it's NOT rooted? I saw someone with a cube on their homescreen with all their apps on it. It was 3D and pretty sweet looking. Will I be able to do stuff like that if I keep it stock.
Another thing, I read that you can't put apps on the expandable storage unless you root it...That is something I would like to do because I plan on putting games on it and such. Seems crappy you can't install some of the bigger apps on your 64 gig sd.
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Custom apps such as multi window manager. Custom roms if you wish. Overclock cpu with tegrak on stock rooted, it does sometimes come in handy to be safely overclocked. personally this tablet is so good off the shelf you dont NEED a custom rom but that overclock is good. Ability to access and change root files such as dolphin preference in order to make it work with flash player. More reliable backups of apps and data with titanium backup. There are a plethera of reasons for rooting a tablet. But do be cautious.

Don't forget you need root for AdAway. You also need root if you want to play around (very dangerous) with the build.prop file to try to install programs that the Play Store says aren't compatible.

deeselcyde said:
The only thing I care about is having the ability to install Google Apps that can only be installed on rooted ROMS. I've read that there are a lot of great apps for rooted ONLY tablets. Also, some of those 3D cube thingy's that have all the app icons on it are kind of cool. I don't know if you can install those on a stock ROM..??
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The 3d cube things I think your talking about are scroll effects, like cube, sphere or card stack. You dont need to be rooted for these, you can just download a launcher (nova, apex, adw) from the play store and change the effects in there.
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jaydubbbbs said:
just to give you one more thing to think about.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1957002
stock is nice btw
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One more question about that link. So once I follow the instructions provided in the link to root my Note 10.1, will I still have the custom ROM? And, will I be able to auto update from Samsung or whoever whenever a new version of the Android ROM comes out? I don't necessarily care about having someones custom ROM, I just want the benefits of using the GAPPS that I wouldn't be able to use if I wasn't rooted.
Thanks.

To root or not to root

To root or not to root
After my last bad experience and also after reading how some have faced issues after rooting their note 3 I was wondering if rooting has any adverse effects on the phones functionality. What are cons of rooting?
There's bit of lag on note 3 which is really annoying for such a beast.
Any advice would be much appreciated thanks
I own N9005 model from O2 unlocked.

riz157 said:
To root or not to root
After my last bad experience and also after reading how some have faced issues after rooting their note 3 I was wondering if rooting has any adverse effects on the phones functionality. What are cons of rooting?
There's bit of lag on note 3 which is really annoying for such a beast.
Any advice would be much appreciated thanks
I own N9005 model from O2 unlocked.
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There is an update from Samsung that should fix the lag.

I would wait until a good (really) good rom is out

elias2204 said:
There is an update from Samsung that should fix the lag.
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No update available for my model unfortunately.

CoolDevelopment said:
I would wait until a good (really) good rom is out
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Hmmm....are current roms poor or no improvement?

I've rooted my phone and hence sacrificed the ability to get OTA update from Samsung... but still, in my opinion, it really depends on the user own personal preference. I root my phone because there's a lot of apps that I am using requires root access (tasker, xposed, etc)...
There are currently not too many custom roms available for note 3 yet (as far as i know), better wait for a while if you're planning on rooting simply for the sake of flashing new rom. :good:

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I've rooted my phone and hence sacrificed the ability to get OTA update from Samsung... but still, in my opinion, it really depends on the user own personal preference. I root my phone because there's a lot of apps that I am using requires root access (tasker, xposed, etc)...
There are currently not too many custom roms available for note 3 yet (as far as i know), better wait for a while if you're planning on rooting simply for the sake of flashing new rom. :good:
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But for a popular device like taht i won't take too long

I'm tossing up the same thing and wondering if anyone can answer this question. If I flash back to stock firmware after rooting will device status revert to official thus allowing me to have ota updates again or does setting the knox flag mean I will be system status modified forever?
I know knox flag can't be reverted but what about system status?
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I've rooted my phone and hence sacrificed the ability to get OTA update from Samsung... but still, in my opinion, it really depends on the user own personal preference. I root my phone because there's a lot of apps that I am using requires root access (tasker, xposed, etc)...
There are currently not too many custom roms available for note 3 yet (as far as i know), better wait for a while if you're planning on rooting simply for the sake of flashing new rom. :good:
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Same here.
Although I'd liked to get a good recovery, too. I just rooted with stock recovery, so I can't make a full nand-backup so far. I tried xposed yesterday, but it didn't work. And as long as there isn't a working recovery option (except for going back to stock and installing my apps again vs. installing the full OS including apps and settings), I probably won't try xposed again. But I do miss the "skip tracks with volume rocker" feature.

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Same here.
Although I'd liked to get a good recovery, too. I just rooted with stock recovery, so I can't make a full nand-backup so far. I tried xposed yesterday, but it didn't work. And as long as there isn't a working recovery option (except for going back to stock and installing my apps again vs. installing the full OS including apps and settings), I probably won't try xposed again. But I do miss the "skip tracks with volume rocker" feature.
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According to this website xposed should work? Are you using version 2.2?
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Which is the safest way to root please?
My main reason for rooting is to reduce lag and install custom ROMs, at the moment their aren't many ROMs to choose from but I'm sure it won't be too long before that changes.
Also My phone is from o2 and they are one of the carriers who still have their ugly logo bootup at startup, shut down which is very annoying.
Also if things go wrong I can still revert back to stock via Odin?
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Auto root by chainfire is the safest and easiest way ti root.
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riz157 said:
Which is the safest way to root please?
My main reason for rooting is to reduce lag and install custom ROMs, at the moment their aren't many ROMs to choose from but I'm sure it won't be too long before that changes.
Also My phone is from o2 and they are one of the carriers who still have their ugly logo bootup at startup, shut down which is very annoying.
Also if things go wrong I can still revert back to stock via Odin?
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Rooting or putting a custom rom(based on touchwiz) won't probably change anything.
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Yes that's true simply rooting wont get rid of lag however my main questions are which is the safest way to root and would I be able to flash generic rom via Odin? It's been awhile since I used Odin.
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Ever time I consider rooting I come across post were user bricked phone. This is really of putting don't fancy bricking my phone. However can't do with lag which is very annoying.
Which is the simplest and safest method of rooting?
Not worried about knox my Model N9005 on MJ3 FW, unlocked version from the UK. Thanks

Rooting does not brick your phone. Only users who don't read the instructions properly bricks their phones.
I have been rooting andriod phones since Samsung S2 with no bricks.
Rooting gives you 'Admin' rights on your phone and I want / need that to have full control of my device.
Rooting does not stop OTA updates but you will need to re-root for every new update.
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I had the same dilemma. I rooted my Note 1, flashed mods & ROMs, and it was eventually what I wanted. It was, however, locked in that version. I had no time to play with it any more, so left it.
On buying the Note 3, I flashed a stock ROM for the Note 1, got the updates, and it was much better than what I had customised. I guess I had my customised ROM earlier than any OTA update, so did benefit.
The other aspect is a firewall. You can now block apps from Mobile data access (although it is tedious), but not from WiFi access. You can, however, block the access that apps have to your data (although also tedious), so at least you may be safer.
Finally, we have the bloatware on the device. This generation of Andoid seems a bit better behaved than previous ones, and I can disable a lot of the stock apps, which is good. I am not finding any wakelocks (or at least not a great deal), and battery life is very good overall.
So, for me, I would like to have a firewall, but as for the rest of the system, it is perfectly good for me, and I have no current plans to root this device.

What's the easiest way of disabling stock apps such as trip advisor, flipboard, ant bloatware etc?
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dholms said:
What's the easiest way of disabling stock apps such as trip advisor, flipboard, ant bloatware etc?
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Unfortunately some of the ones you listed cannot be turned off in the app manager. Many other apps, can however be turned off. Once I rooted I deleted most of the third party nonsense and froze most of the extra Samsung apps.

Techweed said:
Unfortunately some of the ones you listed cannot be turned off in the app manager. Many other apps, can however be turned off. Once I rooted I deleted most of the third party nonsense and froze most of the extra Samsung apps.
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Do you keep Knox counter at 0x0 if you fiddle with deleting stock apps?
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Simple Root?

I have never rooted and am scared to do so but I really want and need the ability to use more apps in the multi-window setting. Is there a simple/basic root for me as I don't really care about any other features that rooting brings to the table?
Google is my friend. I'm rooted now and Multi window is as it should be.

Got any good links. Bout to root as well

vincey2kr1 said:
Got any good links. Bout to root as well
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Here you go.... http://howtorootmobile.com/root-galaxy-note-10-1-2014-edition-step-step-working-guide/

Mickeylittle said:
I have never rooted and am scared to do so but I really want and need the ability to use more apps in the multi-window setting. Is there a simple/basic root for me as I don't really care about any other features that rooting brings to the table?
Google is my friend. I'm rooted now and Multi window is as it should be.
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Did you have to install Esposed?

swaggerjacker said:
Did you have to install Esposed?
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Never heard of Esposed so no I didn't.

I guess He means "Xposed Framework"
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benni2903 said:
I guess He means "Xposed Framework"
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Sorry, like I said I'm a total rookie at rooting a device and most of the threads I've seen just don't make sense to me. In fact it took a little while for me to figure out how to even extract the files needed to root the device. I ended up downloading an extraction program to my PC. It was free and did a great job!

Mickeylittle said:
Sorry, like I said I'm a total rookie at rooting a device and most of the threads I've seen just don't make sense to me. In fact it took a little while for me to figure out how to even extract the files needed to root the device. I ended up downloading an extraction program to my PC. It was free and did a great job!
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You've got to read the pages about universal root de la vega, that's how i managed to root my note 10.1 2014, and the result is very good. You should succeed in doing that cause i achieved to do it without being a native english speaker. After having root your device you can enable all the apps working with multi windows by using Wanam Xposed and multi window manager. You can use Gmd gesture as well, it's very useful to get all the ipad like gestures on the note. Good luck! (If you've got a pc with windows 7 you should install Cygwin64 Terminal to "make" your personal Rooted firmware).

Vincent-iPhilo said:
You've got to read the pages about universal root de la vega, that's how i managed to root my note 10.1 2014, and the result is very good. You should succeed in doing that cause i achieved to do it without being a native english speaker. After having root your device you can enable all the apps working with multi windows by using Wanam Xposed and multi window manager. You can use Gmd gesture as well, it's very useful to get all the ipad like gestures on the note. Good luck! (If you've got a pc with windows 7 you should install Cygwin64 Terminal to "make" your personal Rooted firmware).
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Well I rooted using the link that I provided and then I downloaded the app MW app manager by Xperiacle from the play store since it was made for Samsung devices. All is running well to my knowledge.

Very Good! But i do think that it's a nonsens for Samsung to forbid the use of all the apps in multi windows when it works perfectly well with a mod... I just don't understand them!...

Vincent-iPhilo said:
Very Good! But i do think that it's a nonsens for Samsung to forbid the use of all the apps in multi windows when it works perfectly well with a mod... I just don't understand them!...
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Nor do I. It's ridiculous. And yes, I meant Xposed.
Steve

Vincent-iPhilo said:
Very Good! But i do think that it's a nonsens for Samsung to forbid the use of all the apps in multi windows when it works perfectly well with a mod... I just don't understand them!...
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This.
Multi-window is what really sets the Samsung Notes apart as productivity devices, being able to extend the apps that run under multi-window was my main reason for routing. There are a couple of apps that I use that aren't at the best in multi-window, but they still work for my needs, I don't need nannying!

omneity said:
This.
Multi-window is what really sets the Samsung Notes apart as productivity devices, being able to extend the apps that run under multi-window was my main reason for routing. There are a couple of apps that I use that aren't at the best in multi-window, but they still work for my needs, I don't need nannying!
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They need to be careful because Windows 8.1 tablets do it perfectly on all apps out of the box. And for non rooting people who are looking for ease this just ain't easy.
Besides why start with the walled garden effect of Apple by preventing things that could/should work to just the rooters/jailbreakers!

I've heard that rooting this device irreversibly voids your warranty even if you go back to stock and you will no longer receive updates from Samsung. Is this true?

¿Will-it-Blend? said:
I've heard that rooting this device irreversibly voids your warranty even if you go back to stock and you will no longer receive updates from Samsung. Is this true?
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Yes, and no. Yes, rooting will void your warranty. It will activate the Knox counter. However, after rooting, flash stock recovery. Be sure to update to the latest firmware before rooting. Updating may cause you to loose root. Be sure to freeze, not delete Knox apps after rooting. The update may look for those. There are a lot of differing opinions on this.
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Mickeylittle said:
Here you go.... http://howtorootmobile.com/root-galaxy-note-10-1-2014-edition-step-step-working-guide/
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How about easy toot for P605? Thanks
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Ok now I'm second guessing myself on rooting my Note. Can someone please post a link so that I can unroot it? LOL
My desire at this point is to unroot and factory reset and setup as a new tablet. I do not like the fact that it will not update. Yes I knew this going in so I'm not complaining I'm just changing my mind.
The only reason that I rooted was to get 3-4 apps on multi-window that do not currently work on multi-window. The root process did fix that for me but I just don't believe it to be worth it in the long run so if possible I wish to undo what I've done.

Dupe Post Sorry!

Mickey, First I would try to install OTA Rootkeeper, backup root and then do a temp unroot. See if this allows you to update. If so, then restore root after the update.
OK, nix that - OTA Rootkeeper is not 4.3 compatible due to security changes.
Have a look here and use ODIN to flash back to stock. http://www.tsar3000.com/Joomla/inde...sing-odin3-program&catid=57:how-to&Itemid=104 This will wipe all data on your tablet. Be sure to use an app like MyBackup to back up your apps and data: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rerware.android.MyBackup It is free for 30 days and works well.

Mickeylittle said:
Ok now I'm second guessing myself on rooting my Note. Can someone please post a link so that I can unroot it? LOL
My desire at this point is to unroot and factory reset and setup as a new tablet. I do not like the fact that it will not update. Yes I knew this going in so I'm not complaining I'm just changing my mind.
The only reason that I rooted was to get 3-4 apps on multi-window that do not currently work on multi-window. The root process did fix that for me but I just don't believe it to be worth it in the long run so if possible I wish to undo what I've done.
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Going back won't fix warranty problem, it's now done, cannot change the counter. I'd say not to worry about updates. When update is available, there will be many helpful posts here for rooted devices. I got the tablet on October 1st, rooted on first day root was available. And I updated it after that when Samsung released 3rd update.

Disappointed

Got my new Note 4 on my doorstep. From a technical standpoint, the phone is nice. Pretty fast, nice screen. But I feel let down. I really hate the stock ROM. Running Nova helps. It makes it bearable. I really thought I would like the bigger screen. But the problem is everything is just enlarged. You don't actually have more screen real estate. I have had my GS4 running Cyanogen for quite a while now and I like it. On my new Note 4 I feel very disappointed. If there isn't a root in the next few days I may return it to the store and stick with my GS4.

There won't be a way to root for a long time or ever for that matter....sorry to burst your bubble. I would suggest doing your homework before buying a device for modding. The latest is no longer the greatest from that standpoint. That being said if you want root and do not care about future updates or warranty, the Developer Edition N4 will be out soon . the downfall is you must purchase it outright and there will not be much support for it. However it is unlocked and rootable.

I thought I could get used to it. After all TouchWiz has come a long way. Many people like it. The root for all the other carriers is out. And the talk is that once the stock recoveries are posted Chainfire will be able to get it part of CF-Auto-Root.

ericstephani said:
I thought I could get used to it. After all TouchWiz has come a long way. Many people like it. The root for all the other carriers is out. And the talk is that once the stock recoveries are posted Chainfire will be able to get it part of CF-Auto-Root.
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That "talk" is wrong. cf-root works by flashing a modded recovery and installing supersu via custom scripts made by chainfire for his own personal stuff. since you guys have a locked bootloader that means you wont be flashing any recovery/boot partitions.
plus factor in L's new security and if you guys dont get root before the ota rolls out you may never get it.

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That "talk" is wrong. cf-root works by flashing a modded recovery and installing supersu via custom scripts made by chainfire for his own personal stuff. since you guys have a locked bootloader that means you wont be flashing any recovery/boot partitions.
plus factor in L's new security and if you guys dont get root before the ota rolls out you may never get it.
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Damn...guess I have no choice but to sell my note 4 and get the DevEd.

Anyone tried towelroot by @geohot ? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2783157 That's what's working for the VZW GS5

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plus factor in L's new security and if you guys dont get root before the ota rolls out you may never get it.
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whats "L's" because the N4 is KK if that refers to Lollipop.
i cant tell you how many times i have had a phone that gets the dreaded "you wont see root for a long time if ever" and then within weeks (tops) we have root.
i would be willing to wager that before Dec and probably earlier there will be root for this N4

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whats "L's" because the N4 is KK if that refers to Lollipop.
i cant tell you how many times i have had a phone that gets the dreaded "you wont see root for a long time if ever" and then within weeks (tops) we have root.
i would be willing to wager that before Dec and probably earlier there will be root for this N4
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I'm really hoping you're right...

fletch33 said:
whats "L's" because the N4 is KK if that refers to Lollipop.
i cant tell you how many times i have had a phone that gets the dreaded "you wont see root for a long time if ever" and then within weeks (tops) we have root.
i would be willing to wager that before Dec and probably earlier there will be root for this N4
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I didnt say you wouldnt ever get root, just that when it finally gets updated to L you can kiss all chances of getting root then goodbye. i imagine someone has an exploit they are waiting to drop and see if its patched in 5.0 whether or not it becomes public is entirely up to them at that point. as it stands that is your best shot at a 4.4 root.

i dont know what OP is talking about i have 100s of apps on this thing and still flying like butta!!!

pmterp said:
Anyone tried towelroot by @geohot ? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2783157 That's what's working for the VZW GS5
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Tell me how that goes!

Towel root will not work. The app itself says the note 4 isnt a capable device. Maybe geohot just has to include it, but i wouldnt get your hopes up

There well be a root method within the next week or so. The bootloader will never be unlocked on this phone. Hashtag was the safestrap guru. If someone picked up the reins from him, then we'll likely get a way to flash roms and recovery. Personally, all I want is root to take some of this crap off the phone. I'm done with flashing ROMs.

pmterp said:
Anyone tried towelroot by @geohot ? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2783157 That's what's working for the VZW GS5
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I tried it, no go. Luckily it tells you that the phone isn't supported instead of just screwing it up.

I'm going to take the 12 days I have left to pray for root if not I'm going to see what I can do with a Bluetooth stylus and a nexus 6. I'm upgrading from a note 2 running Aosp Roms. I had the phone for less then an hour before it was rooted and unlocked I ran beans Roms at first but my need to be on the newest version of Android and dislike of touchwiz I found aosp Roms with apps like GMD spen control great. Currently with the N4 I miss the custom gestures to open evernote and ime switch
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alprazolam said:
There well be a root method within the next week or so. The bootloader will never be unlocked on this phone. Hashtag was the safestrap guru. If someone picked up the reins from him, then we'll likely get a way to flash roms and recovery. Personally, all I want is root to take some of this crap off the phone. I'm done with flashing ROMs.
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I like your optimism, but look at what happened to the S5 when it arrived. Took a lot more than the 2 week return window to achieve root. I'm still hedging between this phone and the Xperia, but seems like either way root will not be there quickly.

tsachi said:
I like your optimism, but look at what happened to the S5 when it arrived. Took a lot more than the 2 week return window to achieve root. I'm still hedging between this phone and the Xperia, but seems like either way root will not be there quickly.
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Although the S5 root method doesn't work for the N4, it gives devs a head start.

Surprisingly, I am liking TouchWiz and so far haven't replaced the launcher yet. First time I am not running nova on a phone.

le0.br4zuc4 said:
Surprisingly, I am liking TouchWiz and so far haven't replaced the launcher yet. First time I am not running nova on a phone.
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I agree, it's not terrible and not nearly as laggy as early phones were. I still use Apex so I can use icon and theme packs and make better use of screen size. All in all, if root never came, I'd be content enough to deal... it would be nice for Adaway, Titanium and Xposed though. I'll put my money down soon and see. I'm betting we get root sooner than later.

If root, or more importantly, flashing roms is that important to the OP, then why don't you go with t-mobile? Their Note 4 has an unlocked bootloader. Like another said, do your homework beforehand.