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[Q] to root or not to root?

just got my tf101 and updated to 3.1 and all stock. Now what is the benefit of rooting? What does it gives you that stock cant.

I'm curious about this as well.

Freezing apps
Backing up aps
Removing bloatware with superuser
Many more advantages as well
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Rooting isn't for everyone, really. Many users will derive as much pleasure from stock TFs just because that what they feel comfortable with and that's cool.
Rooting opens up many options to the user experience. Many apps (Titanium Backup is one....and probably a must have) will not install without root. You'll find, after time, many great custom ROMs that add functions and user interface enhancements you could onl get rooted. Overclocking? Can't leave that out! Being able to overclock your TF will speed up your machine and provide much staisfaction. Games? Way better. Some of the genius devs here can tweak so many parts of the TF and android experience ... you'll wonder why you didn't root earlier.
Finally, you'll learn about android and learning is really what it's all about.

Does the overclocking help on things like laggy keyboards?

How is access to root handled in Android? Can any app at any time use root (that would be quite dangerous) or does it have to ask for permission (password or pin maybe?) like sudo in Linux?

It prompts for SU/Root access and you can either allow, deny or always allow.

turbulent28 said:
Does the overclocking help on things like laggy keyboards?
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Yes it could, but is not the main reason.
Most of the time it depends on the rom that you have installed, from my personal experience.
Overclocking improve functionality generally speaking, so it could help for some lag issue, but I would say that mainly depends on the rom and, precisely, if you have lots of bloadware installed, or how many app are you running at the same time and so on....

I would like to come up with some really awesome justified reason why I rooted/custom rom/overclocked but to be honest the real answer is... Because I could

What is Asus's status on rooting? I take it they wash their hands of it and basically will say it invalidates your warranty. But I feel they should at least aknowledge it as OK if you are able to flash back to stock and confirm any problems exist with the stock rom. But I guess that's just not how it works unfortunately?

is it possible to root from 3.1 ? directly

pretty sure as long as you create a backup you can go back to stock without any evidence of rooting...

juliensch said:
is it possible to root from 3.1 ? directly
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Yes, I just did this yesterday. The instructions are in the "[ROM] Transformer 3.1 pure root" in the developers section. It only took about 10 minutes. Fairly straight forward. I did not lose any apps or data. Make sure to load the Asus Sync and USB drivers from Asus on your computer before you start. Several folks ran into issues with that.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1125714
Mostly I've been able to backup using Titanium Backup. I was hoping to be able to map shares using cifs, but sadly I can't get it to work.

Can Mac users go through the root process?

I don't think the above process works from a Mac. Sorry.

nv88 said:
I don't think the above process works from a Mac. Sorry.
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Is there any root process that will work for Mac users?

Dorkington said:
Is there any root process that will work for Mac users?
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It does work in linux with some adaptation of the commands in the scripts and you do not require any installation of drivers from asus. Most distros can easily be used with the adb dev kit

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It does work in linux with some adaptation of the commands in the scripts and you do not require any installation of drivers from asus. Most distros can easily be used with the adb dev kit
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Ok, what about using Parallels/Boot Camp? I haven't booted into Windows in a while, but I should still be able to.

I have rooted every phone I had, but that was to replace roms and remove bloatware that was unremovable. With 3.1 I don't feel the need to do either. Since the apps install in the storage partition they are not flooding a small partition like on the phone. I would have a real hard time filling the 32 GB with apps. Second, I really don't see anything in the available alternative roms that I want. What are other's finding in 3rd party roms? Overclocking might be nice, but not at the cost of either reliability or battery life.

jerrykur said:
I have rooted every phone I had, but that was to replace roms and remove bloatware that was unremovable. With 3.1 I don't feel the need to do either. Since the apps install in the storage partition they are not flooding a small partition like on the phone. I would have a real hard time filling the 32 GB with apps. Second, I really don't see anything in the available alternative roms that I want. What are other's finding in 3rd party roms? Overclocking might be nice, but not at the cost of either reliability or battery life.
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I agree with everything you've said here. The only reason I rooted 3.1 was to install titanium backup. I've tried a couple 3.1 custom roms, but there was nothing really exciting about them that made them really standout from stock.

If I buy, why root?

I am thinking about getting one of these. But I have 1 question. What is the benefit of rooting it? On a phone, it makes sense... since you can tether. But what features on a tablet does one get from ROOT that they otherwise wouldn't?

edufur said:
I am thinking about getting one of these. But I have 1 question. What is the benefit of rooting it? On a phone, it makes sense... since you can tether. But what features on a tablet does one get from ROOT that they otherwise wouldn't?
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USB OTG support, new ROMs, debloat, being able to back up certain apps/data

I felt I wouldn't need to root. But then I couldn't help installing Titanium Backup and restoring backups of almost all apps from my phone. That's one reason, and then there are a lot of other reasons too, as the poster mentioned above.

I haven't rooted my Nexus 7 yet, but when I do it'll primarily be for backing up my device. I love titanium backup and ROM manager. Even if you don't flash custom Roms,it still comes in handy to easily create full backups.

If you root, then have a hardware defect/issue, are you SOL?

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If you root, then have a hardware defect/issue, are you SOL?
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I'm too new to post links, but there's one on this site that if you root your device, that doesn't void your warranty. I'd search and read that.
-Ara

pmgreen said:
If you root, then have a hardware defect/issue, are you SOL?
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Just unroot and relock bootloader
In development section, theres a toolkit by 'Wugfresh' that does everything for you. Check it out

thanks you too.. I appreciate the help without the ding that happens in some threads.

thanx

Appreciate it!

Rooted for the sole purpose of changing dpi to 160 to get true tablet mode.
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I'd highly suggest you don't don't root unless you absolutely positively have a dire need for it. And, even then you should run stock for at least a few weeks to establish a base line so that if issues arise you can determine if rooting/kerneling/etc. is causing it. Seen too many glitches caused with non-stock in the forums.

I'd root for tablet ui and stickmount.

[Q] Should i root my Samsung galaxy S4?

Hi guys! I got my Samsung galaxy s4 first day of release and I really like it, I had an iPhone before and I jailbroke it because it made it so much better, but the question is, is rooting just as good as jailbreaking? Should I root my galaxy s4? It can sometimes be a bit laggy on the home screen and was wondering if a custom rom would fix it?

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Hi guys! I got my Samsung galaxy s4 first day of release and I really like it, I had an iPhone before and I jailbroke it because it made it so much better, but the question is, is rooting just as good as jailbreaking? Should I root my galaxy s4? It can sometimes be a bit laggy on the home screen and was wondering if a custom rom would fix it?
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You don't need to root it, its already good enough and if the small lag bothers you, have you tried other launchers such as Nova launcher? It's almost lag free.
But if you want the best experience from your S4 then yes root it, try CF auto root, but remember you lose warranty and anything can go wrong, so try to follow instructions properly and always backup your important data.

Jason2k13 said:
You don't need to root it, its already good enough and if the small lag bothers you, have you tried other launchers such as Nova launcher? It's almost lag free.
But if you want the best experience from your S4 then yes root it, try CF auto root, but remember you lose warranty and anything can go wrong, so try to follow instructions properly and always backup your important data.
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Thanks for the reply, I did try go launcher but just couldn't get used to it so I went back, but will give nova launcher a go. If I did root is it easy to un root it if I don't like it?

Michael1290 said:
Thanks for the reply, I did try go launcher but just couldn't get used to it so I went back, but will give nova launcher a go. If I did root is it easy to un root it if I don't like it?
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Yes its very easy to un-root, you can always flash a stock rom via Odin, and some custom rom have an option to unroot your phone.

Jason2k13 said:
Yes its very easy to un-root, you can always flash a stock rom via Odin, and some custom rom have an option to unroot your phone.
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What about triangle away and resetting the binary counter back to zero? I think its not possible right now on i9500 variant.
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yes right now its not possible for the i9500

Rooting all depends on your usage.
The benefits being custom roms, but again it all depends if you want to keep flashing and ensuring you always maximize the phone to its full potential.

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super nice and very good !
THX

If you don't know exact reason why you want to root your phone then rooting just for rooting makes no sense. Root access by itself won't make your device any better. Also try to remember that there are many guys here that blow their phones by messing with them.
I've rooted my old sgs2 after few months and used it that way. After some time the only thing I needed root for was the possibility to move apps data to sdcard.
My sgs4 is not rooted for now because I don't need it. Playing with mods or "removing bloatware" is total nonsense to me as I prefer stable device. Also flashing custom roms is nor for me. So widely spoken app Titanium Backup I've used maybe twice in a year, the same I can say about clockwork mod. Just have no time to mess and repair all the time because I need working device as it helps me a lot in my work as smartphone and assistant, not as subject to experiments.
Guy from that video nicely explained what is root for and all of this is definitely true (part about security can be controversial because rooting and installing su does not patch security hole and permission prompt appear only when root access is achieved by su not by security hole), but for me in everyday use it turned to be as useful as towel for a fish.
Android by itself is very good in terms of functionality and far from being restricted in a apple way. You cannot compare root to jailbreak because jb on iphone is needed to get some basic functions. Android has all of this out of the box.
Remember also that rooted phone looses OTA upgrade possibility.
Everything depends on how you use your phone - there is the answer to your question

I am the complete opposite. If I have a device running an os, whether it be a computer, smartphone or whatever, I want full control of the device and it's os as it should be. I want full axx, full power of it.
edit: forgot why I came here in the first place, to the OP, glad you liked the vid and also glad my post wasn't wasted space like the majority of posts I see on here all the time, take it easy.

Rooting all depends on your need while using s4

If you're asking yourself that question then no, you shouldn't root it.

Moving from iPhone to Galaxy s4

I will be getting my S4 very soon, and am quite excited. I've been on too much of a restriction from the iPhone and wasn't allowed to do as much, or most of what android devices can do.
What i am asking is not How to root the device, because there are enough of those topics here, but of which tweaks and apps i should install!
#1 priority would be to get rid of all that junk info that comes with the device i suppose.
So please help me with choosing the best tweaks and such.
Thanks!! :good:
Oh and i forgot. I dont care about any syncing backing up or filemanager apps!

If you're number one priority is to remove to remove junk that comes with the phone you should pay attention to rooting. With out root you won't be able to remove much of it. Pay attention to the different firmware, mf3, mj9, mdl. Each has a way to root but they're different and not interchangeable. Mf3 and even more so mj9 are restrictive on what you can do with your device.
The best thing you can do is read a lot and then ask questions before you get your phone

jd1639 said:
If you're number one priority is to remove to remove junk that comes with the phone you should pay attention to rooting. With out root you won't be able to remove much of it. Pay attention to the different firmware, mf3, mj9, mdl. Each has a way to root but they're different and not interchangeable. Mf3 and even more so mj9 are restrictive on what you can do with your device.
The best thing you can do is read a lot and then ask questions before you get your phone
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I will be rooting the device, and that's for sure.

ibby1001 said:
I will be rooting the device, and that's for sure.
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After rooting you should download xposed installer(this is the main thing you will need before you download the others). Also with xposed installer you need to download wanam xposed, nottach xposed, xui mod, XThemeEngine, greenify, titanium backup,
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ibby1001 said:
I will be getting my S4 very soon, and am quite excited. I've been on too much of a restriction from the iPhone and wasn't allowed to do as much, or most of what android devices can do.
What i am asking is not How to root the device, because there are enough of those topics here, but of which tweaks and apps i should install!
#1 priority would be to get rid of all that junk info that comes with the device i suppose.
So please help me with choosing the best tweaks and such.
Thanks!! :good:
Oh and i forgot. I dont care about any syncing backing up or filemanager apps!
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After rooting, I would recommend Titanium Backup. It will allow you to freeze the apps that you don't want running and the OS will allow you to hide the icon. It isn't actually uninstalling the program but for all intensive purposes it's gone.
Tasker is a great app that will automate a number of functions for you (and show you how much restriction you've actually been living with). You can google the app as there are hundreds of profiles available.

there is no safe root method for the mj9 build

Simple Root?

I have never rooted and am scared to do so but I really want and need the ability to use more apps in the multi-window setting. Is there a simple/basic root for me as I don't really care about any other features that rooting brings to the table?
Google is my friend. I'm rooted now and Multi window is as it should be.

Got any good links. Bout to root as well

vincey2kr1 said:
Got any good links. Bout to root as well
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Here you go.... http://howtorootmobile.com/root-galaxy-note-10-1-2014-edition-step-step-working-guide/

Mickeylittle said:
I have never rooted and am scared to do so but I really want and need the ability to use more apps in the multi-window setting. Is there a simple/basic root for me as I don't really care about any other features that rooting brings to the table?
Google is my friend. I'm rooted now and Multi window is as it should be.
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Did you have to install Esposed?

swaggerjacker said:
Did you have to install Esposed?
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Never heard of Esposed so no I didn't.

I guess He means "Xposed Framework"
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benni2903 said:
I guess He means "Xposed Framework"
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Sorry, like I said I'm a total rookie at rooting a device and most of the threads I've seen just don't make sense to me. In fact it took a little while for me to figure out how to even extract the files needed to root the device. I ended up downloading an extraction program to my PC. It was free and did a great job!

Mickeylittle said:
Sorry, like I said I'm a total rookie at rooting a device and most of the threads I've seen just don't make sense to me. In fact it took a little while for me to figure out how to even extract the files needed to root the device. I ended up downloading an extraction program to my PC. It was free and did a great job!
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You've got to read the pages about universal root de la vega, that's how i managed to root my note 10.1 2014, and the result is very good. You should succeed in doing that cause i achieved to do it without being a native english speaker. After having root your device you can enable all the apps working with multi windows by using Wanam Xposed and multi window manager. You can use Gmd gesture as well, it's very useful to get all the ipad like gestures on the note. Good luck! (If you've got a pc with windows 7 you should install Cygwin64 Terminal to "make" your personal Rooted firmware).

Vincent-iPhilo said:
You've got to read the pages about universal root de la vega, that's how i managed to root my note 10.1 2014, and the result is very good. You should succeed in doing that cause i achieved to do it without being a native english speaker. After having root your device you can enable all the apps working with multi windows by using Wanam Xposed and multi window manager. You can use Gmd gesture as well, it's very useful to get all the ipad like gestures on the note. Good luck! (If you've got a pc with windows 7 you should install Cygwin64 Terminal to "make" your personal Rooted firmware).
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Well I rooted using the link that I provided and then I downloaded the app MW app manager by Xperiacle from the play store since it was made for Samsung devices. All is running well to my knowledge.

Very Good! But i do think that it's a nonsens for Samsung to forbid the use of all the apps in multi windows when it works perfectly well with a mod... I just don't understand them!...

Vincent-iPhilo said:
Very Good! But i do think that it's a nonsens for Samsung to forbid the use of all the apps in multi windows when it works perfectly well with a mod... I just don't understand them!...
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Nor do I. It's ridiculous. And yes, I meant Xposed.
Steve

Vincent-iPhilo said:
Very Good! But i do think that it's a nonsens for Samsung to forbid the use of all the apps in multi windows when it works perfectly well with a mod... I just don't understand them!...
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This.
Multi-window is what really sets the Samsung Notes apart as productivity devices, being able to extend the apps that run under multi-window was my main reason for routing. There are a couple of apps that I use that aren't at the best in multi-window, but they still work for my needs, I don't need nannying!

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This.
Multi-window is what really sets the Samsung Notes apart as productivity devices, being able to extend the apps that run under multi-window was my main reason for routing. There are a couple of apps that I use that aren't at the best in multi-window, but they still work for my needs, I don't need nannying!
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They need to be careful because Windows 8.1 tablets do it perfectly on all apps out of the box. And for non rooting people who are looking for ease this just ain't easy.
Besides why start with the walled garden effect of Apple by preventing things that could/should work to just the rooters/jailbreakers!

I've heard that rooting this device irreversibly voids your warranty even if you go back to stock and you will no longer receive updates from Samsung. Is this true?

¿Will-it-Blend? said:
I've heard that rooting this device irreversibly voids your warranty even if you go back to stock and you will no longer receive updates from Samsung. Is this true?
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Yes, and no. Yes, rooting will void your warranty. It will activate the Knox counter. However, after rooting, flash stock recovery. Be sure to update to the latest firmware before rooting. Updating may cause you to loose root. Be sure to freeze, not delete Knox apps after rooting. The update may look for those. There are a lot of differing opinions on this.
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Mickeylittle said:
Here you go.... http://howtorootmobile.com/root-galaxy-note-10-1-2014-edition-step-step-working-guide/
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How about easy toot for P605? Thanks
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Ok now I'm second guessing myself on rooting my Note. Can someone please post a link so that I can unroot it? LOL
My desire at this point is to unroot and factory reset and setup as a new tablet. I do not like the fact that it will not update. Yes I knew this going in so I'm not complaining I'm just changing my mind.
The only reason that I rooted was to get 3-4 apps on multi-window that do not currently work on multi-window. The root process did fix that for me but I just don't believe it to be worth it in the long run so if possible I wish to undo what I've done.

Dupe Post Sorry!

Mickey, First I would try to install OTA Rootkeeper, backup root and then do a temp unroot. See if this allows you to update. If so, then restore root after the update.
OK, nix that - OTA Rootkeeper is not 4.3 compatible due to security changes.
Have a look here and use ODIN to flash back to stock. http://www.tsar3000.com/Joomla/inde...sing-odin3-program&catid=57:how-to&Itemid=104 This will wipe all data on your tablet. Be sure to use an app like MyBackup to back up your apps and data: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rerware.android.MyBackup It is free for 30 days and works well.

Mickeylittle said:
Ok now I'm second guessing myself on rooting my Note. Can someone please post a link so that I can unroot it? LOL
My desire at this point is to unroot and factory reset and setup as a new tablet. I do not like the fact that it will not update. Yes I knew this going in so I'm not complaining I'm just changing my mind.
The only reason that I rooted was to get 3-4 apps on multi-window that do not currently work on multi-window. The root process did fix that for me but I just don't believe it to be worth it in the long run so if possible I wish to undo what I've done.
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Going back won't fix warranty problem, it's now done, cannot change the counter. I'd say not to worry about updates. When update is available, there will be many helpful posts here for rooted devices. I got the tablet on October 1st, rooted on first day root was available. And I updated it after that when Samsung released 3rd update.