I am thinking about getting one of these. But I have 1 question. What is the benefit of rooting it? On a phone, it makes sense... since you can tether. But what features on a tablet does one get from ROOT that they otherwise wouldn't?
edufur said:
I am thinking about getting one of these. But I have 1 question. What is the benefit of rooting it? On a phone, it makes sense... since you can tether. But what features on a tablet does one get from ROOT that they otherwise wouldn't?
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USB OTG support, new ROMs, debloat, being able to back up certain apps/data
I felt I wouldn't need to root. But then I couldn't help installing Titanium Backup and restoring backups of almost all apps from my phone. That's one reason, and then there are a lot of other reasons too, as the poster mentioned above.
I haven't rooted my Nexus 7 yet, but when I do it'll primarily be for backing up my device. I love titanium backup and ROM manager. Even if you don't flash custom Roms,it still comes in handy to easily create full backups.
If you root, then have a hardware defect/issue, are you SOL?
pmgreen said:
If you root, then have a hardware defect/issue, are you SOL?
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I'm too new to post links, but there's one on this site that if you root your device, that doesn't void your warranty. I'd search and read that.
-Ara
pmgreen said:
If you root, then have a hardware defect/issue, are you SOL?
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Just unroot and relock bootloader
In development section, theres a toolkit by 'Wugfresh' that does everything for you. Check it out
thanks you too.. I appreciate the help without the ding that happens in some threads.
thanx
Appreciate it!
Rooted for the sole purpose of changing dpi to 160 to get true tablet mode.
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I'd highly suggest you don't don't root unless you absolutely positively have a dire need for it. And, even then you should run stock for at least a few weeks to establish a base line so that if issues arise you can determine if rooting/kerneling/etc. is causing it. Seen too many glitches caused with non-stock in the forums.
I'd root for tablet ui and stickmount.
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just got my tf101 and updated to 3.1 and all stock. Now what is the benefit of rooting? What does it gives you that stock cant.
I'm curious about this as well.
Freezing apps
Backing up aps
Removing bloatware with superuser
Many more advantages as well
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Rooting isn't for everyone, really. Many users will derive as much pleasure from stock TFs just because that what they feel comfortable with and that's cool.
Rooting opens up many options to the user experience. Many apps (Titanium Backup is one....and probably a must have) will not install without root. You'll find, after time, many great custom ROMs that add functions and user interface enhancements you could onl get rooted. Overclocking? Can't leave that out! Being able to overclock your TF will speed up your machine and provide much staisfaction. Games? Way better. Some of the genius devs here can tweak so many parts of the TF and android experience ... you'll wonder why you didn't root earlier.
Finally, you'll learn about android and learning is really what it's all about.
Does the overclocking help on things like laggy keyboards?
How is access to root handled in Android? Can any app at any time use root (that would be quite dangerous) or does it have to ask for permission (password or pin maybe?) like sudo in Linux?
It prompts for SU/Root access and you can either allow, deny or always allow.
turbulent28 said:
Does the overclocking help on things like laggy keyboards?
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Yes it could, but is not the main reason.
Most of the time it depends on the rom that you have installed, from my personal experience.
Overclocking improve functionality generally speaking, so it could help for some lag issue, but I would say that mainly depends on the rom and, precisely, if you have lots of bloadware installed, or how many app are you running at the same time and so on....
I would like to come up with some really awesome justified reason why I rooted/custom rom/overclocked but to be honest the real answer is... Because I could
What is Asus's status on rooting? I take it they wash their hands of it and basically will say it invalidates your warranty. But I feel they should at least aknowledge it as OK if you are able to flash back to stock and confirm any problems exist with the stock rom. But I guess that's just not how it works unfortunately?
is it possible to root from 3.1 ? directly
pretty sure as long as you create a backup you can go back to stock without any evidence of rooting...
juliensch said:
is it possible to root from 3.1 ? directly
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Yes, I just did this yesterday. The instructions are in the "[ROM] Transformer 3.1 pure root" in the developers section. It only took about 10 minutes. Fairly straight forward. I did not lose any apps or data. Make sure to load the Asus Sync and USB drivers from Asus on your computer before you start. Several folks ran into issues with that.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1125714
Mostly I've been able to backup using Titanium Backup. I was hoping to be able to map shares using cifs, but sadly I can't get it to work.
Can Mac users go through the root process?
I don't think the above process works from a Mac. Sorry.
nv88 said:
I don't think the above process works from a Mac. Sorry.
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Is there any root process that will work for Mac users?
Dorkington said:
Is there any root process that will work for Mac users?
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It does work in linux with some adaptation of the commands in the scripts and you do not require any installation of drivers from asus. Most distros can easily be used with the adb dev kit
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It does work in linux with some adaptation of the commands in the scripts and you do not require any installation of drivers from asus. Most distros can easily be used with the adb dev kit
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Ok, what about using Parallels/Boot Camp? I haven't booted into Windows in a while, but I should still be able to.
I have rooted every phone I had, but that was to replace roms and remove bloatware that was unremovable. With 3.1 I don't feel the need to do either. Since the apps install in the storage partition they are not flooding a small partition like on the phone. I would have a real hard time filling the 32 GB with apps. Second, I really don't see anything in the available alternative roms that I want. What are other's finding in 3rd party roms? Overclocking might be nice, but not at the cost of either reliability or battery life.
jerrykur said:
I have rooted every phone I had, but that was to replace roms and remove bloatware that was unremovable. With 3.1 I don't feel the need to do either. Since the apps install in the storage partition they are not flooding a small partition like on the phone. I would have a real hard time filling the 32 GB with apps. Second, I really don't see anything in the available alternative roms that I want. What are other's finding in 3rd party roms? Overclocking might be nice, but not at the cost of either reliability or battery life.
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I agree with everything you've said here. The only reason I rooted 3.1 was to install titanium backup. I've tried a couple 3.1 custom roms, but there was nothing really exciting about them that made them really standout from stock.
Is there really a point to root right now with not many Roms to load etc. Still kinda new to Android so bare with me. Yes I would love to get rid of this Rogers bloatware.
Dx9 said:
Is there really a point to root right now with not many Roms to load etc. Still kinda new to Android so bare with me. Yes I would love to get rid of this Rogers bloatware.
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Depends if you like to use apps that require root? Tether? Titanium? etc...
Yes de bloat your phone run a nanodroid lol and access other apps that require root
SetCPU...flash custom apps/mods.etc
Ad Away, Titanium Backup, Tethering, freeze/remove bloatware.....
If you're like me... in case a ROM pops up while you're out and about and you can't wait to get home and root then flash it. That's actually the sole reason I'm rooted now
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What everyone else said. I almost always stick with stock ROMS with root and s-off so I can remove bloatware and run android wifi tether and titanium backup.
Root makes it a more enjoyable device IMO. That alone makes it worth it (The roms even more so of course)
Im waiting for a one-click method like there is for my ET4G.
incubus26jc said:
Depends if you like to use apps that require root? Tether? Titanium? etc...
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All canadien service providers allow tethering.
But to answer his question, yes, rooting the device is not only about roms, its about CPU management, running root options on apps like juice defender and mybackup pro, in my case i need root and recovery to run ceberus from CWM to make sure if i get my phone stolen i can always track and recover it no matter how many times the thief factory resets it. Android is a beautiful OS, rooting is an extra bonus...but i could very well live without it (if touchwiz wasnt so damn ugly)
ReggieTee said:
Im waiting for a one-click method like there is for my ET4G.
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If you can post on a web board you are saavy enough to root this phone via odin. The instructions are not difficult to follow and the whole process takes less than 15 minutes
Darmokk said:
If you can post on a web board you are saavy enough to root this phone via odin. The instructions are not difficult to follow and the whole process takes less than 15 minutes
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yeah.
i'm an idiot, and it took me 4 minutes.
New to Android here too. I have to follow a method that doesn't increase the 'counter' to preserve the warranty right?
I did it to freeze all the bloatware Sprint and Samsung added to the s3. Also, so I can use apps that require superuser permissions.
I am very new to android as well as this forum...
Just bought Nexus 7 yesterday ( and yeah its my first android device).
Everyone geeks are telling me to root my device, some intelligent also says don't root it voids your warranty.
So i have few queries as novice user.
Should i root my device?
Is it safe? will my warranty void after root?
can i use add on device like pen drive, mouse via OTG without Rooting?
Can I unroot? if yes, then if I unroot, I get my warranty back?
What are other benifits of root?
Which is easiest meathod of root?
rooting sucks..don't try it
Use wugfreshs toolkit to root. Rooting is great. When you root your device you need to unlock the bootloader . When the boot loader is unlocked, the warranty is void. But its a nexus device so its easy to lock it back up so that your warranty is back so don't worry about that. Yes, you can unroot, its as easy as flashing a stock rom. There are many benefits of rooting, I for one love no ads in Any apps, including games. I use an app called wifikill which allows me to kick any WiFi device at my house offline so that I can use ,more bandwidth than my siblings also, rooting opens up Roms and kernels. I downloaded and flashed trinity kernel. I am getting crazy battery life. Up to 6-10 hrs of ONSCREEN time which is ridiculous . ROOT YOU DEVIIICE!!!!
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Okaay said:
Use wugfreshs toolkit to root. Rooting is great. When you root your device you need to unlock the bootloader . When the boot loader is unlocked, the warranty is void. But its a nexus device so its easy to lock it back up so that your warranty is back so don't worry about that. Yes, you can unroot, its as easy as flashing a stock rom. There are many benefits of rooting, I for one love no ads in Any apps, including games. I use an app called wifikill which allows me to kick any WiFi device at my house offline so that I can use ,more bandwidth than my siblings also, rooting opens up Roms and kernels. I downloaded and flashed trinity kernel. I am getting crazy battery life. Up to 6-10 hrs of ONSCREEN time which is ridiculous . ROOT YOU DEVIIICE!!!!
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I couldn't agree more with what he said. Try wugfreshs toolkit, it's very simple and forward.
There's a good youtube tutorial of how to do it on youtube, just search up " How to Root the Google Nexus 7 qbking77"
Good luck !
Okaay said:
I am getting crazy battery life. Up to 6-10 hrs of ONSCREEN time which is ridiculous . ROOT YOU DEVIIICE!!!!
I'm getting that battery life without rooting or new kernel.
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as people said, don't fix it if it ain't broke. unless you need more storage via stickmount. My is not rooted yet, maybe later.
hirenvasani said:
So i have few queries as novice user.
Should i root my device?
Is it safe? will my warranty void after root?
can i use add on device like pen drive, mouse via OTG without Rooting?
Can I unroot? if yes, then if I unroot, I get my warranty back?
What are other benifits of root?
Which is easiest meathod of root?
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yes
The rooting process is 99.0% safe if you read
Yes
Yes,yes
Ad blocking, USB OTG, console controllers, make Jailbreakers jealous
WugFresh toolkit, adb is failsafe but not as easy. Get PDAnet drivers.
Fastboot OEM Unlock
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One issue no one has brought up--some apps block rooted devices.
On the one hand, I've rooted/jailbroken all my previous devices, but I'm getting my N7 partly to watch video via Hulu+ and Time Warner. Neither of those work on my One X. Is that the case with this one? Has anyone found any workarounds? The threads for the signed versions of those two apps seem to have died.
iElvis said:
One issue no one has brought up--some apps block rooted devices.
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Some used to, but I don't know of any now. Which ones are left?
Thanks everyone for your valuable advice...
I have rooted my device. But my pendrive doesnt detect via OTG? Any Solution?
hirenvasani said:
I have rooted my device. But my pendrive doesnt detect via OTG? Any Solution?
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Not enough information. What did you try, with the cable, did you load stickmount. Did you try to use it to mount the drive. what type of "pendrive" etc..
hirenvasani said:
Thanks everyone for your valuable advice...
I have rooted my device. But my pendrive doesnt detect via OTG? Any Solution?
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You have the stickmount app installed? USB must be formatted as FAT32....as the easiest solution. I think linux filesystems also work like ext3 but then you can't use the usb on a Windows machine without additional software.
For a while my USB didn't work, then I plugged in a mouse and that worked. Plugged the usb in again and it somehow started working.....weird eh?
silly question, always root. even if you dont need root today, tomorrow you might. and by that time you might have useful data that might get wiped when you do decide to root. anyways, its nice to have complete control over your device, if not for the performance side, then for the maintenance and customization side.
Its MoserBear 16 GB, FAT 32 formatted Pendrive, was trying to connect it via Galaxy S2 OTG and I also installed stickmount, when i click on mount it show there is no active mounts....
Hop[e this much info is good....
Awaiting for any solution.
I rooted my phone and have decided it's not necessary on my N7 (yet). On my phone I just end up with a bunch more apps that get updated more frequently (like Titanium). The only issue I have with the N7 is real small text on some apps (like Amazon App store), will rooting fix this? With a 3rd party launcher you can make the N7 look and feel any way you want. I have 4gb left of 16, so I may root "someday" if I want to put more music on it.
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One issue no one has brought up--some apps block rooted devices.
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Instead, how many apps require rooted devices? How useful and relevant are those apps compared to the fabled apps that block root (I honestly have never seen any)?
palmboy5 said:
Instead, how many apps require rooted devices? How useful and relevant are those apps compared to the fabled apps that block root (I honestly have never seen any)?
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The only one I can think of is Barclays Pingit - though not sure its compatible with N7 anyway.
Agree with previous comments - even if you dont need the benifits from rooting immediately its always best to root it at the start before you set it all up and have to wipe it all. I've learnt this the hard way before.
IMO the benefits of root overweight the downfalls, by far
Google Wallet Statement
On the Google Wallet FAQs it says that Google Wallet doesn't support rooted phones...can anyone confirm it does still work or..? Cause that's the main thing holding me back. Sorry if this has already been answered
Okaay said:
Use wugfreshs toolkit to root. Rooting is great. When you root your device you need to unlock the bootloader . When the boot loader is unlocked, the warranty is void. But its a nexus device so its easy to lock it back up so that your warranty is back so don't worry about that. Yes, you can unroot, its as easy as flashing a stock rom. There are many benefits of rooting, I for one love no ads in Any apps, including games. I use an app called wifikill which allows me to kick any WiFi device at my house offline so that I can use ,more bandwidth than my siblings also, rooting opens up Roms and kernels. I downloaded and flashed trinity kernel. I am getting crazy battery life. Up to 6-10 hrs of ONSCREEN time which is ridiculous . ROOT YOU DEVIIICE!!!!
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Where can i get 'wifikill' It isn't on the play store (Silly of me to look really) Can you send me a link via a PM?
EDIT: found it on Slideme, from a XDA thread. should of searched it here before asking Never mind
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On the Google Wallet FAQs it says that Google Wallet doesn't support rooted phones...can anyone confirm it does still work or..? Cause that's the main thing holding me back. Sorry if this has already been answered
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Im rooted google wallet works fine for me.
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Hi guys! I got my Samsung galaxy s4 first day of release and I really like it, I had an iPhone before and I jailbroke it because it made it so much better, but the question is, is rooting just as good as jailbreaking? Should I root my galaxy s4? It can sometimes be a bit laggy on the home screen and was wondering if a custom rom would fix it?
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Hi guys! I got my Samsung galaxy s4 first day of release and I really like it, I had an iPhone before and I jailbroke it because it made it so much better, but the question is, is rooting just as good as jailbreaking? Should I root my galaxy s4? It can sometimes be a bit laggy on the home screen and was wondering if a custom rom would fix it?
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You don't need to root it, its already good enough and if the small lag bothers you, have you tried other launchers such as Nova launcher? It's almost lag free.
But if you want the best experience from your S4 then yes root it, try CF auto root, but remember you lose warranty and anything can go wrong, so try to follow instructions properly and always backup your important data.
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You don't need to root it, its already good enough and if the small lag bothers you, have you tried other launchers such as Nova launcher? It's almost lag free.
But if you want the best experience from your S4 then yes root it, try CF auto root, but remember you lose warranty and anything can go wrong, so try to follow instructions properly and always backup your important data.
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Thanks for the reply, I did try go launcher but just couldn't get used to it so I went back, but will give nova launcher a go. If I did root is it easy to un root it if I don't like it?
Michael1290 said:
Thanks for the reply, I did try go launcher but just couldn't get used to it so I went back, but will give nova launcher a go. If I did root is it easy to un root it if I don't like it?
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Yes its very easy to un-root, you can always flash a stock rom via Odin, and some custom rom have an option to unroot your phone.
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Yes its very easy to un-root, you can always flash a stock rom via Odin, and some custom rom have an option to unroot your phone.
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What about triangle away and resetting the binary counter back to zero? I think its not possible right now on i9500 variant.
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yes right now its not possible for the i9500
Rooting all depends on your usage.
The benefits being custom roms, but again it all depends if you want to keep flashing and ensuring you always maximize the phone to its full potential.
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super nice and very good !
THX
If you don't know exact reason why you want to root your phone then rooting just for rooting makes no sense. Root access by itself won't make your device any better. Also try to remember that there are many guys here that blow their phones by messing with them.
I've rooted my old sgs2 after few months and used it that way. After some time the only thing I needed root for was the possibility to move apps data to sdcard.
My sgs4 is not rooted for now because I don't need it. Playing with mods or "removing bloatware" is total nonsense to me as I prefer stable device. Also flashing custom roms is nor for me. So widely spoken app Titanium Backup I've used maybe twice in a year, the same I can say about clockwork mod. Just have no time to mess and repair all the time because I need working device as it helps me a lot in my work as smartphone and assistant, not as subject to experiments.
Guy from that video nicely explained what is root for and all of this is definitely true (part about security can be controversial because rooting and installing su does not patch security hole and permission prompt appear only when root access is achieved by su not by security hole), but for me in everyday use it turned to be as useful as towel for a fish.
Android by itself is very good in terms of functionality and far from being restricted in a apple way. You cannot compare root to jailbreak because jb on iphone is needed to get some basic functions. Android has all of this out of the box.
Remember also that rooted phone looses OTA upgrade possibility.
Everything depends on how you use your phone - there is the answer to your question
I am the complete opposite. If I have a device running an os, whether it be a computer, smartphone or whatever, I want full control of the device and it's os as it should be. I want full axx, full power of it.
edit: forgot why I came here in the first place, to the OP, glad you liked the vid and also glad my post wasn't wasted space like the majority of posts I see on here all the time, take it easy.
Rooting all depends on your need while using s4
If you're asking yourself that question then no, you shouldn't root it.
I recently got a new S4 at the store, and of course, it came with MF3.
My question is, if I choose to root it, which I would really like to, would this potentially block my ability to utilize a future exploit in the bootloader or otherwise negatively impact the phone?
I know I can't un-root the phone for the time being, which is fine, but I would like to root it if there won't be any future issues.
Why would you think there would be issues with a future bootloader exploit?
Root has nothing to do with the bootloaders. If there were ever to be issues, it would be addressed and fixed before it goes public.
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just remember that if you root, and your device takes a poop, you wont have odin as option to fix it nor will you have a backup to restore it since you wont have a custom recovery. dont root if you dont think you'd know how to get it back up and going again. read up. cheers.
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Why would you think there would be issues with a future bootloader exploit?
Root has nothing to do with the bootloaders. If there were ever to be issues, it would be addressed and fixed before it goes public.
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Yeah, as you can see I'm not very knowledgeable about the way the phones work and how these exploits deal with the phone software. But I appreciate the info that rooting won't mess with that kind of thing.
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just remember that if you root, and your device takes a poop, you wont have odin as option to fix it nor will you have a backup to restore it since you wont have a custom recovery. dont root if you dont think you'd know how to get it back up and going again. read up. cheers.
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I guess I'm wondering what could cause my device to take a poop if I simply root it and install Titanium Backup and some other root apps. Yeah, I've been trying to read up ever since I became a member a couple days ago.
I appreciate the advice, guys. Thanks!
there's a hundred threads spread out over the last couple weeks of people asking what they can do to fix their devices. people that were on MF3, rooted, and suddenly there was a glitch somewhere. whether they deleted something they shouldnt have, installed something they shouldnt have, some random misc unforeseen error, etc.
if i were a user that had a very introductory-level of android knowledge, it would be a no brainer for me: having no root on my device vs having no way to backup/restore via a custom recovery and no odin. i choose stock/unrooted. just keep your eyes peeled. when there is finally an exploit, you'll see it here on xda.