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If I buy, why root?

I am thinking about getting one of these. But I have 1 question. What is the benefit of rooting it? On a phone, it makes sense... since you can tether. But what features on a tablet does one get from ROOT that they otherwise wouldn't?

edufur said:
I am thinking about getting one of these. But I have 1 question. What is the benefit of rooting it? On a phone, it makes sense... since you can tether. But what features on a tablet does one get from ROOT that they otherwise wouldn't?
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USB OTG support, new ROMs, debloat, being able to back up certain apps/data

I felt I wouldn't need to root. But then I couldn't help installing Titanium Backup and restoring backups of almost all apps from my phone. That's one reason, and then there are a lot of other reasons too, as the poster mentioned above.

I haven't rooted my Nexus 7 yet, but when I do it'll primarily be for backing up my device. I love titanium backup and ROM manager. Even if you don't flash custom Roms,it still comes in handy to easily create full backups.

If you root, then have a hardware defect/issue, are you SOL?

pmgreen said:
If you root, then have a hardware defect/issue, are you SOL?
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I'm too new to post links, but there's one on this site that if you root your device, that doesn't void your warranty. I'd search and read that.
-Ara

pmgreen said:
If you root, then have a hardware defect/issue, are you SOL?
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Just unroot and relock bootloader
In development section, theres a toolkit by 'Wugfresh' that does everything for you. Check it out

thanks you too.. I appreciate the help without the ding that happens in some threads.

thanx

Appreciate it!

Rooted for the sole purpose of changing dpi to 160 to get true tablet mode.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2

I'd highly suggest you don't don't root unless you absolutely positively have a dire need for it. And, even then you should run stock for at least a few weeks to establish a base line so that if issues arise you can determine if rooting/kerneling/etc. is causing it. Seen too many glitches caused with non-stock in the forums.

I'd root for tablet ui and stickmount.

[Q] Nexus 4 On-Screen buttons

Hello, I am new to XDA developers and this is my first post here. Now my question is rather simple, yet I have not found a solution for it on the forums here. Now the issue is, I have owned an LG Nexus 4 (E960) for about a month now, and when ever I play games, the on screen buttons always seem to get in my way. Now my question is, how do you disable/re-enable the on screen buttons without rooting? (The reason why I don't want to root is that I heard it voids the warranty). Please reply with any information you think might be useful, as I have found these buttons to be frustrating when I play any game.
Thanks in advance,
Android 9000

You need to root, but otherwise try shaking your phone vigorously for 5 seconds, with the screen turned to 69% brightness, to disable the soft keys.

MattyB123 said:
You need to root, but otherwise try shaking your phone vigorously for 5 seconds, with the screen turned to 69% brightness, to disable the soft keys.
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Funny, but not helpful. If I root is there a way to revert back to stock without google knowing I rooted the phone?

Well I use this app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.tsorn.FullScreen but u need to be rooted. U can always unroot your device if u send it back in for warranty reasons.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda premium

Android 9000 said:
Funny, but not helpful. If I root is there a way to revert back to stock without google knowing I rooted the phone?
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Use this guide to root, and you can also use it to return to stock should you need to for warranty reasons.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2010312

MattyB123 said:
Use this guide to root, and you can also use it to return to stock should you need to for warranty reasons.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2010312
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Also this is my first android phone, previously coming from a bad nokia phone so I have no idea how to root. Do you know what the easiest root is? When I jailbroke my iPod touch it just took a single click, no messing around with the command prompt and moving around files. So basically where would be the best place to get a root toolkit for my nexus 4 with something like a one click root, and a one click backup?

Android 9000 said:
Also this is my first android phone, previously coming from a bad nokia phone so I have no idea how to root. Do you know what the easiest root is? When I jailbroke my iPod touch it just took a single click, no messing around with the command prompt and moving around files. So basically where would be the best place to get a root toolkit for my nexus 4 with something like a one click root, and a one click backup?
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There is only 1 way to root a Nexus, unlocking the bootloader and flashing a custom recovery, it is very easy once you start and very unlikely to go wrong, it will wipe your data though.
And its even easier to return to stock as Google provide factory images.
Sent from my Jelly Nexus 4

DarkhShadow said:
There is only 1 way to root a Nexus, unlocking the bootloader and flashing a custom recovery, it is very easy once you start and very unlikely to go wrong, it will wipe your data though.
And its even easier to return to stock as Google provide factory images.
Sent from my Jelly Nexus 4
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So there is no "one click to root" tool kit for the nexus 4? All I want is those softkeys to get out of my way when I play games, other than that the phone is fine. I don't want to ruin my nexus 4 by getting it into a bootloop or bricking it, and since there are so many steps to unlock the bootloader and root the device, I am bound to mess up somewhere.

s10shane said:
Well I use this app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.tsorn.FullScreen but u need to be rooted. U can always unroot your device if u send it back in for warranty reasons.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda premium
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Do you know if this app will modify the system files and break OTA updates?

Android 9000 said:
So there is no "one click to root" tool kit for the nexus 4? All I want is those softkeys to get out of my way when I play games, other than that the phone is fine. I don't want to ruin my nexus 4 by getting it into a bootloop or bricking it, and since there are so many steps to unlock the bootloader and root the device, I am bound to mess up somewhere.
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you don't want to be using a one click... chances of boot loops and you won't be learning anything about rooting. Feel free to use the Nexus toolkit, but good luck solving that pesky boot loop. The guide I linked is really easy to follow, PM me and I'll write a really simple step by step, and if you get teamviewer i will watch you do it, and stop you going wrong.:fingers-crossed:
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Exodai said:
Do you know if this app will modify the system files and break OTA updates?
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Rooting with a custom recovery will break OTA, but the app won't. But since the app needs root, basically yeah

I think I will just wait until the next version of android comes out (version 5) so that I will not have to re-root, and for now I will just have to put up with those annoying softkeys. I would really want to see google include a gesture option for hiding/showing those buttons as I don't think I am the only one here that hates accidentally touching them during games.

Android 9000 said:
I think I will just wait until the next version of android comes out (version 5) so that I will not have to re-root, and for now I will just have to put up with those annoying softkeys. I would really want to see google include a gesture option for hiding/showing those buttons as I don't think I am the only one here that hates accidentally touching them during games.
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Well, that's not until May, and then you'll have to root anyway, so why not learn now?

MattyB123 said:
Well, that's not until May, and then you'll have to root anyway, so why not learn now?
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I guess I will try and learn now then.

you can root without flashing a custom recovery, it there in WUGS tool kit on this website
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2015469,
also you can use keep root after taking a OTA from google with this
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...m9yZy5wcm9qZWN0dm9vZG9vLm90YXJvb3RrZWVwZXIiXQ..
I used it twice on my N7, theres always a chance that it might not work. But if you atleast unlock the bootloader from there you should be able to push root agian from a tool kit if you want.

BrianDigital said:
you can root without flashing a custom recovery, it there in WUGS tool kit on this website
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2015469,
also you can use keep root after taking a OTA from google with this
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...m9yZy5wcm9qZWN0dm9vZG9vLm90YXJvb3RrZWVwZXIiXQ..
I used it twice on my N7, theres always a chance that it might not work. But if you atleast unlock the bootloader from there you should be able to push root agian from a tool kit if you want.
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I always advise against toolkits of any kind
Sent from my Jelly Nexus 4

DarkhShadow said:
I always advise against toolkits of any kind
Sent from my Jelly Nexus 4
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he was already asking for it and they do exist, and i really dont care how the next person roots their phone

Okay, I have now rooted my nexus 4 and everything seems to be working great. Thank you all for your help and suggestions, I appreciate how nice everyone here is on the XDA developer forums.

Android 9000 said:
Okay, I have now rooted my nexus 4 and everything seems to be working great. Thank you all for your help and suggestions, I appreciate how nice everyone here is on the XDA developer forums.
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we try to be, also try to keep atleast one rom on your device, say if you accidentally have a bad flash for whatever reason, you will have something you know that works, or keep a nandroid backup
Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 2

Who cares about OTA, .zip will be in like minutes in here ready to flash it, even custom ROMS..

Should I root my nexus 7

So I'm kinda in between if I want to root my nexus 7. I have rooted a lot of phones before but that was all just to get stock android. Seen as how this is stock already I can't seem to find a good reason beside putting Ubuntu on my nexus. Can someone tell me there exprinces with having a rooted nexus 7 and what the advantages are besides root apps and the such.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2

In all honesty I have had my nexus for a couple of months now and I find no need to root it. It gets updated with the latest firmware and I notice little to no glitches or mistakes with the stock build. If I were to root it them I'd only do it so I can over clock.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda app-developers app

AW: Should I root my nexus 7
I also think about rooting mine. My only reason is Adaway.
Heard about unrooting/unlocking in case of waranty. So whats holding me?
I'm just satisfied with my N7. I also own a TF-201. Stock it was horrible laggy. Tried some custom-roms and it felt like a new, faster device.
My stock/unrooted N7 is even better. Atm I don't really care about it...however, someday I'm gonna root it and try multiboot/ubuntu and so on.
So it's up to you. But rooting is always an advantage. Why should i have a device without all permissions?

I'm also a stock Android fan, but I just rooted my N7, mainly because I need titanium backup on all of my devices. And now the adaway is gone I still have my backup and really enjoyed this.
Sent from my Nexus 7

The biggest reason to not root your device is that you'll be voiding your warrant.
And as ixemerix said above, "But rooting is always an advantage. Why should i have a device without all permissions?".
You should therefore consider the advantage of rooting against your warranty. If you ever need it repaired (and you're still able to flash the device), just "unroot" it, lock the bootloader to remove the "unlock"-icon (you'll get that icon when rooted).
Some advantages, in a break-down-module :
Better overall performance
Underclock/Overclock (I do overclocked mine but some might for games, I presume)
Greatly increase the battery life, especially standby time
Hacking and modding (such as filming in 720p, adding performance tweaks e.g. in initd and buildprop, themes etc.)

Root it because its a nexus device
Sent from a Galaxy far away!!

QNBT said:
The biggest reason to not root your device is that you'll be voiding your warrant.
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You can always unroot and relock the bootloader.

marsyeti said:
I'm also a stock Android fan, but I just rooted my N7, mainly because I need titanium backup on all of my devices. And now the adaway is gone I still have my backup and really enjoyed this.
Sent from my Nexus 7
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You can still get adaway if you install fdroid. It's a repository for open-source apps. Fdroid will notify you when new versions of adaway are available, and you can use fdroid to install it, in a similar way to the play store.

I think ROOTING is always a good idea... it confers unfettered access to the O/S, and provides considerable benefits... such as, for example --
-- Disabling SCREEN DIMMER/PRISM (eradicates screen flicker).
-- Allows the running of the app LagFix (eradicates lag).
-- Allows the running of the app AdAway (eradicates unwanted advertisments).
You can also run many more diagnostic commands in Terminal Emulater, than otherwise... and several fixes also (either directly, or automated, using ScriptManager).
And finally, you can directly access /system with a ROOT capable file manager like X-Plore, and inspect all kinds of interesting stuff (...and maybe even modify some stuff... if you're feeling brave - it's not without risk!!!!).
All of which confers a fundamentally better understanding of what your Nexus 7 is up to!
If you want to understand Android, as well as to use it, to it's fullest potential - you need ROOT.
Personally, I couldn't envisage using any Android box, today, without ROOT.
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ON THE ADAWAY ISSUE...
AdAway and other Advert blocking apps were recently 'pulled' from Google Play Store as being in “Violation of section 4.4 of the Developer Distribution Agreement."... (a ridiculous decision, IMHO, but not entirely unexpected.).
See here for more details...
http://f-droid.org/forums/topic/adaway-and-other-ad-blocker-removed-from-google-play
http://techcrunch.com/2013/03/13/go...or-violating-developer-distribution-agreement
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But you can still install AdAway from the F-Droid repository, using the sideloaded app, available here http://f-droid.org... it provides a FULLY OPEN SOURCE alternative to PlayStore, in which you can install the latest version of AdaWay, and sundry other apps.
You will of course, need ROOT to run AdaWay.
...and runs great on my Nexus 7...
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Rgrds,
Ged.

I want 5cents everytime someone tell me rooting void warranty, ESPECIALLY on a Nexus device.

AW: Should I root my nexus 7
And if I get a hardware-defect, unable to unroot? Will they still repair it under waranty?

I waited a few months before rooting my nexus 7, so I could first learn about android a bit. I already had experience in rooting other devices, and missing some nice rooting features on my tablet I decided to root it.
It's totally worth it, for example:
- Ad Blocker (ad block plus without root didn't do it for me),
- Titanium Backup (can't do without it anymore),
- Hiding the navigation bar + LMT launcher (I always hated the navigation bar; my main reason for rooting)
- Stickmount (best way to mount USB sticks or hard drives with an OTG cable)
- Custom Kernel (using Timur's USB host kernel)
TWRP recovery is worth it, because:
- Nandroid backup (easy restoring of backups)
- Easy installation of custom roms, although I'm using stock.
You can always go back to stock with locked bootloader, if necessary for warranty.

Root it! Loads of advantages and if you do it probably then it is completely safe.
Sent from my HTC Desire S using xda app-developers app

ucf15 said:
You can still get adaway if you install fdroid. It's a repository for open-source apps. Fdroid will notify you when new versions of adaway are available, and you can use fdroid to install it, in a similar way to the play store.
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Thanks so much for that suggestion about f droid. I don't know how I wasn't aware of that, but it's a nice find since ad blocking apps have been removed from the Play Store.

I always root everything i have...i suggest you do the same ....you have access to a lot of stuff...and the variety of roms and kernelsyou can flash
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda app-developers app

Westervoort said:
I waited a few months before rooting my nexus 7, so I could first learn about android a bit. I already had experience in rooting other devices, and missing some nice rooting features on my tablet I decided to root it.
It's totally worth it, for example:
- Ad Blocker (ad block plus without root didn't do it for me),
- Titanium Backup (can't do without it anymore),
- Hiding the navigation bar + LMT launcher (I always hated the navigation bar; my main reason for rooting)
- Stickmount (best way to mount USB sticks or hard drives with an OTG cable)
- Custom Kernel (using Timur's USB host kernel)
TWRP recovery is worth it, because:
- Nandroid backup (easy restoring of backups)
- Easy installation of custom roms, although I'm using stock.
You can always go back to stock with locked bootloader, if necessary for warranty.
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Can you please add references how to root the device (Nexus 7)?

YoramZa said:
Can you please add references how to root the device (Nexus 7)?
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Too complicated for you to read the hundred threads already on this subject?
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus

Pirateghost said:
Too complicated for you to read the hundred threads already on this subject?
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
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I don't need hundred threads just one good thread. Probably for you it's easier to lecture than help.
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Too complicated for you to read the hundred threads already on this subject?
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
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Since English is not my mother tongue I can't handle hundred threads.
I will appreciate if you can recommend a good one.
I have read some but couldn't understand how to do it.
I have rooted 3 Samsung devices very easy (s1 s2 note2) but the nexus is different
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I'm also in the boat of having been unrooted for months.. BUT... I finally decided I needed some ad-blocking.
SOOOO... my one remaining question is how far the rooting path can I go and still be able to get OTA updates? (other than having root, I am happy enough with stock).
- can I get OTA if I just root ? (I think the answer is yes, but I may need to install rootkeeper before I OTA)
- can I get OTA if I also install custom recovery (I think the answer is no)
thanks!

If i root my nexus will my apps still work? Or does rooting disable them?

Simple Root?

I have never rooted and am scared to do so but I really want and need the ability to use more apps in the multi-window setting. Is there a simple/basic root for me as I don't really care about any other features that rooting brings to the table?
Google is my friend. I'm rooted now and Multi window is as it should be.

Got any good links. Bout to root as well

vincey2kr1 said:
Got any good links. Bout to root as well
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Here you go.... http://howtorootmobile.com/root-galaxy-note-10-1-2014-edition-step-step-working-guide/

Mickeylittle said:
I have never rooted and am scared to do so but I really want and need the ability to use more apps in the multi-window setting. Is there a simple/basic root for me as I don't really care about any other features that rooting brings to the table?
Google is my friend. I'm rooted now and Multi window is as it should be.
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Did you have to install Esposed?

swaggerjacker said:
Did you have to install Esposed?
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Never heard of Esposed so no I didn't.

I guess He means "Xposed Framework"
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benni2903 said:
I guess He means "Xposed Framework"
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Sorry, like I said I'm a total rookie at rooting a device and most of the threads I've seen just don't make sense to me. In fact it took a little while for me to figure out how to even extract the files needed to root the device. I ended up downloading an extraction program to my PC. It was free and did a great job!

Mickeylittle said:
Sorry, like I said I'm a total rookie at rooting a device and most of the threads I've seen just don't make sense to me. In fact it took a little while for me to figure out how to even extract the files needed to root the device. I ended up downloading an extraction program to my PC. It was free and did a great job!
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You've got to read the pages about universal root de la vega, that's how i managed to root my note 10.1 2014, and the result is very good. You should succeed in doing that cause i achieved to do it without being a native english speaker. After having root your device you can enable all the apps working with multi windows by using Wanam Xposed and multi window manager. You can use Gmd gesture as well, it's very useful to get all the ipad like gestures on the note. Good luck! (If you've got a pc with windows 7 you should install Cygwin64 Terminal to "make" your personal Rooted firmware).

Vincent-iPhilo said:
You've got to read the pages about universal root de la vega, that's how i managed to root my note 10.1 2014, and the result is very good. You should succeed in doing that cause i achieved to do it without being a native english speaker. After having root your device you can enable all the apps working with multi windows by using Wanam Xposed and multi window manager. You can use Gmd gesture as well, it's very useful to get all the ipad like gestures on the note. Good luck! (If you've got a pc with windows 7 you should install Cygwin64 Terminal to "make" your personal Rooted firmware).
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Well I rooted using the link that I provided and then I downloaded the app MW app manager by Xperiacle from the play store since it was made for Samsung devices. All is running well to my knowledge.

Very Good! But i do think that it's a nonsens for Samsung to forbid the use of all the apps in multi windows when it works perfectly well with a mod... I just don't understand them!...

Vincent-iPhilo said:
Very Good! But i do think that it's a nonsens for Samsung to forbid the use of all the apps in multi windows when it works perfectly well with a mod... I just don't understand them!...
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Nor do I. It's ridiculous. And yes, I meant Xposed.
Steve

Vincent-iPhilo said:
Very Good! But i do think that it's a nonsens for Samsung to forbid the use of all the apps in multi windows when it works perfectly well with a mod... I just don't understand them!...
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This.
Multi-window is what really sets the Samsung Notes apart as productivity devices, being able to extend the apps that run under multi-window was my main reason for routing. There are a couple of apps that I use that aren't at the best in multi-window, but they still work for my needs, I don't need nannying!

omneity said:
This.
Multi-window is what really sets the Samsung Notes apart as productivity devices, being able to extend the apps that run under multi-window was my main reason for routing. There are a couple of apps that I use that aren't at the best in multi-window, but they still work for my needs, I don't need nannying!
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They need to be careful because Windows 8.1 tablets do it perfectly on all apps out of the box. And for non rooting people who are looking for ease this just ain't easy.
Besides why start with the walled garden effect of Apple by preventing things that could/should work to just the rooters/jailbreakers!

I've heard that rooting this device irreversibly voids your warranty even if you go back to stock and you will no longer receive updates from Samsung. Is this true?

¿Will-it-Blend? said:
I've heard that rooting this device irreversibly voids your warranty even if you go back to stock and you will no longer receive updates from Samsung. Is this true?
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Yes, and no. Yes, rooting will void your warranty. It will activate the Knox counter. However, after rooting, flash stock recovery. Be sure to update to the latest firmware before rooting. Updating may cause you to loose root. Be sure to freeze, not delete Knox apps after rooting. The update may look for those. There are a lot of differing opinions on this.
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Mickeylittle said:
Here you go.... http://howtorootmobile.com/root-galaxy-note-10-1-2014-edition-step-step-working-guide/
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How about easy toot for P605? Thanks
Sent from my SM-N9005

Ok now I'm second guessing myself on rooting my Note. Can someone please post a link so that I can unroot it? LOL
My desire at this point is to unroot and factory reset and setup as a new tablet. I do not like the fact that it will not update. Yes I knew this going in so I'm not complaining I'm just changing my mind.
The only reason that I rooted was to get 3-4 apps on multi-window that do not currently work on multi-window. The root process did fix that for me but I just don't believe it to be worth it in the long run so if possible I wish to undo what I've done.

Dupe Post Sorry!

Mickey, First I would try to install OTA Rootkeeper, backup root and then do a temp unroot. See if this allows you to update. If so, then restore root after the update.
OK, nix that - OTA Rootkeeper is not 4.3 compatible due to security changes.
Have a look here and use ODIN to flash back to stock. http://www.tsar3000.com/Joomla/inde...sing-odin3-program&catid=57:how-to&Itemid=104 This will wipe all data on your tablet. Be sure to use an app like MyBackup to back up your apps and data: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rerware.android.MyBackup It is free for 30 days and works well.

Mickeylittle said:
Ok now I'm second guessing myself on rooting my Note. Can someone please post a link so that I can unroot it? LOL
My desire at this point is to unroot and factory reset and setup as a new tablet. I do not like the fact that it will not update. Yes I knew this going in so I'm not complaining I'm just changing my mind.
The only reason that I rooted was to get 3-4 apps on multi-window that do not currently work on multi-window. The root process did fix that for me but I just don't believe it to be worth it in the long run so if possible I wish to undo what I've done.
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Going back won't fix warranty problem, it's now done, cannot change the counter. I'd say not to worry about updates. When update is available, there will be many helpful posts here for rooted devices. I got the tablet on October 1st, rooted on first day root was available. And I updated it after that when Samsung released 3rd update.

Is there any reason not to root my new 6p?

Like the title says, is there any reason not to root my new 6p?
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Android pay won't work but other than that I love mine rooted
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funnel71 said:
Android pay won't work but other than that I love mine rooted
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Android Pay works with system-less root.
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That's what I have or so I thought but I can't seem to add any cards to it. It tells me my Android device isn't recognized. Do you know how to get around that
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I tried with systemless root and AP worked fine, but my company dinged me for having email installed and they detected root.
Sucks too because EX kernel plus stock seemed awesome. But having access to corporate email is more a daily must, and I don't want to carry two phones.

jpeg42 said:
I tried with systemless root and AP worked fine, but my company dinged me for having email installed and they detected root.
Sucks too because EX kernel plus stock seemed awesome. But having access to corporate email is more a daily must, and I don't want to carry two phones.
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I know what you mean, my company uses good for email access and it will shut down if root is detected. So, I just carry two phones
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funnel71 said:
I know what you mean, my company uses good for email access and it will shut down if root is detected. So, I just carry two phones
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I was reading over an Xposed module the other day that can hide root detection. I personally have no experience with this as I have no need to hide root. Have you tried using root masking apps or modules before?
And to the OP, no. I bought this phone specifically because its a nexus.... It was built to be rooted. Some will argue that point saying that android is so well optimized now that root isn't necessary, stock ROMs are no longer better than stock blah blah blah. Root still have amazing advantages. I say root all the way. Heisenberg wrote an amazing guide in the general section that will answer 99% of your questions about this phone when it comes to rooting and flashing. Anything else he and community will answer in the Q&A section.

Pain-N-Panic said:
I was reading over an Xposed module the other day that can hide root detection. I personally have no experience with this as I have no need to hide root. Have you tried using root masking apps or modules before?
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Some apps *cought* Snapchat *cough* don't work even with the root hiding xposed module. For some reason, I could still use snapchat even with root, but no xposed. On my Note 4, I couldn't use snapchat unless the thing is completely stock.

funnel71 said:
That's what I have or so I thought but I can't seem to add any cards to it. It tells me my Android device isn't recognized. Do you know how to get around that
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Once you've installed system-less root you have to remove xbin_bin folder in /su/bin if you forgot to do it when installing system-less. You also have to change the permissions of the /su/bin folder to 0751 from 0755. You can change the permissions through terminal on the phone, or with adb on the computer; you can also change the permissions with a file manager such as Root Explorer. I suggest you reboot the phone just as a precaution after making the changes.
Once you've done that you can check with one of the SafetyNet checking apps from the Play Store.
Pain-N-Panic said:
I was reading over an Xposed module the other day that can hide root detection. I personally have no experience with this as I have no need to hide root. Have you tried using root masking apps or modules before?
And to the OP, no. I bought this phone specifically because its a nexus.... It was built to be rooted. Some will argue that point saying that android is so well optimized now that root isn't necessary, stock ROMs are no longer better than stock blah blah blah. Root still have amazing advantages. I say root all the way. Heisenberg wrote an amazing guide in the general section that will answer 99% of your questions about this phone when it comes to rooting and flashing. Anything else he and community will answer in the Q&A section.
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Xposed automatically breaks AP...no way around that.

The two reasons I don't root it are android pay and updates. I know AP is possible but it's a cat and mouse game. Updates seem easier now than in previous versions but not nearly as convenient as they are unrooted.

NCguy said:
The two reasons I don't root it are android pay and updates. I know AP is possible but it's a cat and mouse game. Updates seem easier now than in previous versions but not nearly as convenient as they are unrooted.
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Most custom ROMs are usually updated before you get the official OTA from Google...

slaydog said:
Most custom ROMs are usually updated before you get the official OTA from Google...
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This. Plus updating via fastboot really isnt very difficult at all. A little time consuming but that's it.

slaydog said:
Most custom ROMs are usually updated before you get the official OTA from Google...
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The OP said root not ROM.

NCguy said:
The OP said root not ROM.
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Yeah, I was just pointing out that if you don't like to root because it's more difficult to get updates, you may want to try a custom ROM, then you can have the benefits of root and easy updates.
Of course you'll still have the same cat and mouse game with Google in regards to Android Pay, so if you find yourself shopping without your wallet allot, you might just wanna forget the whole thing...