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root or not to root Nexus 7

I am very new to android as well as this forum...
Just bought Nexus 7 yesterday ( and yeah its my first android device).
Everyone geeks are telling me to root my device, some intelligent also says don't root it voids your warranty.
So i have few queries as novice user.
Should i root my device?
Is it safe? will my warranty void after root?
can i use add on device like pen drive, mouse via OTG without Rooting?
Can I unroot? if yes, then if I unroot, I get my warranty back?
What are other benifits of root?
Which is easiest meathod of root?

rooting sucks..don't try it

Use wugfreshs toolkit to root. Rooting is great. When you root your device you need to unlock the bootloader . When the boot loader is unlocked, the warranty is void. But its a nexus device so its easy to lock it back up so that your warranty is back so don't worry about that. Yes, you can unroot, its as easy as flashing a stock rom. There are many benefits of rooting, I for one love no ads in Any apps, including games. I use an app called wifikill which allows me to kick any WiFi device at my house offline so that I can use ,more bandwidth than my siblings also, rooting opens up Roms and kernels. I downloaded and flashed trinity kernel. I am getting crazy battery life. Up to 6-10 hrs of ONSCREEN time which is ridiculous . ROOT YOU DEVIIICE!!!!
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda app-developers app

Okaay said:
Use wugfreshs toolkit to root. Rooting is great. When you root your device you need to unlock the bootloader . When the boot loader is unlocked, the warranty is void. But its a nexus device so its easy to lock it back up so that your warranty is back so don't worry about that. Yes, you can unroot, its as easy as flashing a stock rom. There are many benefits of rooting, I for one love no ads in Any apps, including games. I use an app called wifikill which allows me to kick any WiFi device at my house offline so that I can use ,more bandwidth than my siblings also, rooting opens up Roms and kernels. I downloaded and flashed trinity kernel. I am getting crazy battery life. Up to 6-10 hrs of ONSCREEN time which is ridiculous . ROOT YOU DEVIIICE!!!!
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda app-developers app
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I couldn't agree more with what he said. Try wugfreshs toolkit, it's very simple and forward.
There's a good youtube tutorial of how to do it on youtube, just search up " How to Root the Google Nexus 7 qbking77"
Good luck !

Okaay said:
I am getting crazy battery life. Up to 6-10 hrs of ONSCREEN time which is ridiculous . ROOT YOU DEVIIICE!!!!
I'm getting that battery life without rooting or new kernel.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda app-developers app
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as people said, don't fix it if it ain't broke. unless you need more storage via stickmount. My is not rooted yet, maybe later.

hirenvasani said:
So i have few queries as novice user.
Should i root my device?
Is it safe? will my warranty void after root?
can i use add on device like pen drive, mouse via OTG without Rooting?
Can I unroot? if yes, then if I unroot, I get my warranty back?
What are other benifits of root?
Which is easiest meathod of root?
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yes
The rooting process is 99.0% safe if you read
Yes
Yes,yes
Ad blocking, USB OTG, console controllers, make Jailbreakers jealous
WugFresh toolkit, adb is failsafe but not as easy. Get PDAnet drivers.
Fastboot OEM Unlock
Sent from a Nexus 7 using my fingers

One issue no one has brought up--some apps block rooted devices.
On the one hand, I've rooted/jailbroken all my previous devices, but I'm getting my N7 partly to watch video via Hulu+ and Time Warner. Neither of those work on my One X. Is that the case with this one? Has anyone found any workarounds? The threads for the signed versions of those two apps seem to have died.

iElvis said:
One issue no one has brought up--some apps block rooted devices.
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Some used to, but I don't know of any now. Which ones are left?

Thanks everyone for your valuable advice...
I have rooted my device. But my pendrive doesnt detect via OTG? Any Solution?

hirenvasani said:
I have rooted my device. But my pendrive doesnt detect via OTG? Any Solution?
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Not enough information. What did you try, with the cable, did you load stickmount. Did you try to use it to mount the drive. what type of "pendrive" etc..

hirenvasani said:
Thanks everyone for your valuable advice...
I have rooted my device. But my pendrive doesnt detect via OTG? Any Solution?
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You have the stickmount app installed? USB must be formatted as FAT32....as the easiest solution. I think linux filesystems also work like ext3 but then you can't use the usb on a Windows machine without additional software.
For a while my USB didn't work, then I plugged in a mouse and that worked. Plugged the usb in again and it somehow started working.....weird eh?

silly question, always root. even if you dont need root today, tomorrow you might. and by that time you might have useful data that might get wiped when you do decide to root. anyways, its nice to have complete control over your device, if not for the performance side, then for the maintenance and customization side.

Its MoserBear 16 GB, FAT 32 formatted Pendrive, was trying to connect it via Galaxy S2 OTG and I also installed stickmount, when i click on mount it show there is no active mounts....
Hop[e this much info is good....
Awaiting for any solution.

I rooted my phone and have decided it's not necessary on my N7 (yet). On my phone I just end up with a bunch more apps that get updated more frequently (like Titanium). The only issue I have with the N7 is real small text on some apps (like Amazon App store), will rooting fix this? With a 3rd party launcher you can make the N7 look and feel any way you want. I have 4gb left of 16, so I may root "someday" if I want to put more music on it.

iElvis said:
One issue no one has brought up--some apps block rooted devices.
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Instead, how many apps require rooted devices? How useful and relevant are those apps compared to the fabled apps that block root (I honestly have never seen any)?

palmboy5 said:
Instead, how many apps require rooted devices? How useful and relevant are those apps compared to the fabled apps that block root (I honestly have never seen any)?
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The only one I can think of is Barclays Pingit - though not sure its compatible with N7 anyway.
Agree with previous comments - even if you dont need the benifits from rooting immediately its always best to root it at the start before you set it all up and have to wipe it all. I've learnt this the hard way before.
IMO the benefits of root overweight the downfalls, by far

Google Wallet Statement
On the Google Wallet FAQs it says that Google Wallet doesn't support rooted phones...can anyone confirm it does still work or..? Cause that's the main thing holding me back. Sorry if this has already been answered

Okaay said:
Use wugfreshs toolkit to root. Rooting is great. When you root your device you need to unlock the bootloader . When the boot loader is unlocked, the warranty is void. But its a nexus device so its easy to lock it back up so that your warranty is back so don't worry about that. Yes, you can unroot, its as easy as flashing a stock rom. There are many benefits of rooting, I for one love no ads in Any apps, including games. I use an app called wifikill which allows me to kick any WiFi device at my house offline so that I can use ,more bandwidth than my siblings also, rooting opens up Roms and kernels. I downloaded and flashed trinity kernel. I am getting crazy battery life. Up to 6-10 hrs of ONSCREEN time which is ridiculous . ROOT YOU DEVIIICE!!!!
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda app-developers app
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Where can i get 'wifikill' It isn't on the play store (Silly of me to look really) Can you send me a link via a PM?
EDIT: found it on Slideme, from a XDA thread. should of searched it here before asking Never mind

BambiTyler said:
On the Google Wallet FAQs it says that Google Wallet doesn't support rooted phones...can anyone confirm it does still work or..? Cause that's the main thing holding me back. Sorry if this has already been answered
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Im rooted google wallet works fine for me.
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[Q] Nexus 4 On-Screen buttons

Hello, I am new to XDA developers and this is my first post here. Now my question is rather simple, yet I have not found a solution for it on the forums here. Now the issue is, I have owned an LG Nexus 4 (E960) for about a month now, and when ever I play games, the on screen buttons always seem to get in my way. Now my question is, how do you disable/re-enable the on screen buttons without rooting? (The reason why I don't want to root is that I heard it voids the warranty). Please reply with any information you think might be useful, as I have found these buttons to be frustrating when I play any game.
Thanks in advance,
Android 9000

You need to root, but otherwise try shaking your phone vigorously for 5 seconds, with the screen turned to 69% brightness, to disable the soft keys.

MattyB123 said:
You need to root, but otherwise try shaking your phone vigorously for 5 seconds, with the screen turned to 69% brightness, to disable the soft keys.
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Funny, but not helpful. If I root is there a way to revert back to stock without google knowing I rooted the phone?

Well I use this app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.tsorn.FullScreen but u need to be rooted. U can always unroot your device if u send it back in for warranty reasons.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda premium

Android 9000 said:
Funny, but not helpful. If I root is there a way to revert back to stock without google knowing I rooted the phone?
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Use this guide to root, and you can also use it to return to stock should you need to for warranty reasons.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2010312

MattyB123 said:
Use this guide to root, and you can also use it to return to stock should you need to for warranty reasons.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2010312
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Also this is my first android phone, previously coming from a bad nokia phone so I have no idea how to root. Do you know what the easiest root is? When I jailbroke my iPod touch it just took a single click, no messing around with the command prompt and moving around files. So basically where would be the best place to get a root toolkit for my nexus 4 with something like a one click root, and a one click backup?

Android 9000 said:
Also this is my first android phone, previously coming from a bad nokia phone so I have no idea how to root. Do you know what the easiest root is? When I jailbroke my iPod touch it just took a single click, no messing around with the command prompt and moving around files. So basically where would be the best place to get a root toolkit for my nexus 4 with something like a one click root, and a one click backup?
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There is only 1 way to root a Nexus, unlocking the bootloader and flashing a custom recovery, it is very easy once you start and very unlikely to go wrong, it will wipe your data though.
And its even easier to return to stock as Google provide factory images.
Sent from my Jelly Nexus 4

DarkhShadow said:
There is only 1 way to root a Nexus, unlocking the bootloader and flashing a custom recovery, it is very easy once you start and very unlikely to go wrong, it will wipe your data though.
And its even easier to return to stock as Google provide factory images.
Sent from my Jelly Nexus 4
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So there is no "one click to root" tool kit for the nexus 4? All I want is those softkeys to get out of my way when I play games, other than that the phone is fine. I don't want to ruin my nexus 4 by getting it into a bootloop or bricking it, and since there are so many steps to unlock the bootloader and root the device, I am bound to mess up somewhere.

s10shane said:
Well I use this app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.tsorn.FullScreen but u need to be rooted. U can always unroot your device if u send it back in for warranty reasons.
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Do you know if this app will modify the system files and break OTA updates?

Android 9000 said:
So there is no "one click to root" tool kit for the nexus 4? All I want is those softkeys to get out of my way when I play games, other than that the phone is fine. I don't want to ruin my nexus 4 by getting it into a bootloop or bricking it, and since there are so many steps to unlock the bootloader and root the device, I am bound to mess up somewhere.
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you don't want to be using a one click... chances of boot loops and you won't be learning anything about rooting. Feel free to use the Nexus toolkit, but good luck solving that pesky boot loop. The guide I linked is really easy to follow, PM me and I'll write a really simple step by step, and if you get teamviewer i will watch you do it, and stop you going wrong.:fingers-crossed:
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Exodai said:
Do you know if this app will modify the system files and break OTA updates?
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Rooting with a custom recovery will break OTA, but the app won't. But since the app needs root, basically yeah

I think I will just wait until the next version of android comes out (version 5) so that I will not have to re-root, and for now I will just have to put up with those annoying softkeys. I would really want to see google include a gesture option for hiding/showing those buttons as I don't think I am the only one here that hates accidentally touching them during games.

Android 9000 said:
I think I will just wait until the next version of android comes out (version 5) so that I will not have to re-root, and for now I will just have to put up with those annoying softkeys. I would really want to see google include a gesture option for hiding/showing those buttons as I don't think I am the only one here that hates accidentally touching them during games.
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Well, that's not until May, and then you'll have to root anyway, so why not learn now?

MattyB123 said:
Well, that's not until May, and then you'll have to root anyway, so why not learn now?
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I guess I will try and learn now then.

you can root without flashing a custom recovery, it there in WUGS tool kit on this website
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2015469,
also you can use keep root after taking a OTA from google with this
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...m9yZy5wcm9qZWN0dm9vZG9vLm90YXJvb3RrZWVwZXIiXQ..
I used it twice on my N7, theres always a chance that it might not work. But if you atleast unlock the bootloader from there you should be able to push root agian from a tool kit if you want.

BrianDigital said:
you can root without flashing a custom recovery, it there in WUGS tool kit on this website
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2015469,
also you can use keep root after taking a OTA from google with this
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...m9yZy5wcm9qZWN0dm9vZG9vLm90YXJvb3RrZWVwZXIiXQ..
I used it twice on my N7, theres always a chance that it might not work. But if you atleast unlock the bootloader from there you should be able to push root agian from a tool kit if you want.
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I always advise against toolkits of any kind
Sent from my Jelly Nexus 4

DarkhShadow said:
I always advise against toolkits of any kind
Sent from my Jelly Nexus 4
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he was already asking for it and they do exist, and i really dont care how the next person roots their phone

Okay, I have now rooted my nexus 4 and everything seems to be working great. Thank you all for your help and suggestions, I appreciate how nice everyone here is on the XDA developer forums.

Android 9000 said:
Okay, I have now rooted my nexus 4 and everything seems to be working great. Thank you all for your help and suggestions, I appreciate how nice everyone here is on the XDA developer forums.
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we try to be, also try to keep atleast one rom on your device, say if you accidentally have a bad flash for whatever reason, you will have something you know that works, or keep a nandroid backup
Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 2

Who cares about OTA, .zip will be in like minutes in here ready to flash it, even custom ROMS..

[Q] Should i root my Samsung galaxy S4?

Hi guys! I got my Samsung galaxy s4 first day of release and I really like it, I had an iPhone before and I jailbroke it because it made it so much better, but the question is, is rooting just as good as jailbreaking? Should I root my galaxy s4? It can sometimes be a bit laggy on the home screen and was wondering if a custom rom would fix it?

Michael1290 said:
Hi guys! I got my Samsung galaxy s4 first day of release and I really like it, I had an iPhone before and I jailbroke it because it made it so much better, but the question is, is rooting just as good as jailbreaking? Should I root my galaxy s4? It can sometimes be a bit laggy on the home screen and was wondering if a custom rom would fix it?
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You don't need to root it, its already good enough and if the small lag bothers you, have you tried other launchers such as Nova launcher? It's almost lag free.
But if you want the best experience from your S4 then yes root it, try CF auto root, but remember you lose warranty and anything can go wrong, so try to follow instructions properly and always backup your important data.

Jason2k13 said:
You don't need to root it, its already good enough and if the small lag bothers you, have you tried other launchers such as Nova launcher? It's almost lag free.
But if you want the best experience from your S4 then yes root it, try CF auto root, but remember you lose warranty and anything can go wrong, so try to follow instructions properly and always backup your important data.
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Thanks for the reply, I did try go launcher but just couldn't get used to it so I went back, but will give nova launcher a go. If I did root is it easy to un root it if I don't like it?

Michael1290 said:
Thanks for the reply, I did try go launcher but just couldn't get used to it so I went back, but will give nova launcher a go. If I did root is it easy to un root it if I don't like it?
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Yes its very easy to un-root, you can always flash a stock rom via Odin, and some custom rom have an option to unroot your phone.

Jason2k13 said:
Yes its very easy to un-root, you can always flash a stock rom via Odin, and some custom rom have an option to unroot your phone.
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What about triangle away and resetting the binary counter back to zero? I think its not possible right now on i9500 variant.
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yes right now its not possible for the i9500

Rooting all depends on your usage.
The benefits being custom roms, but again it all depends if you want to keep flashing and ensuring you always maximize the phone to its full potential.

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super nice and very good !
THX

If you don't know exact reason why you want to root your phone then rooting just for rooting makes no sense. Root access by itself won't make your device any better. Also try to remember that there are many guys here that blow their phones by messing with them.
I've rooted my old sgs2 after few months and used it that way. After some time the only thing I needed root for was the possibility to move apps data to sdcard.
My sgs4 is not rooted for now because I don't need it. Playing with mods or "removing bloatware" is total nonsense to me as I prefer stable device. Also flashing custom roms is nor for me. So widely spoken app Titanium Backup I've used maybe twice in a year, the same I can say about clockwork mod. Just have no time to mess and repair all the time because I need working device as it helps me a lot in my work as smartphone and assistant, not as subject to experiments.
Guy from that video nicely explained what is root for and all of this is definitely true (part about security can be controversial because rooting and installing su does not patch security hole and permission prompt appear only when root access is achieved by su not by security hole), but for me in everyday use it turned to be as useful as towel for a fish.
Android by itself is very good in terms of functionality and far from being restricted in a apple way. You cannot compare root to jailbreak because jb on iphone is needed to get some basic functions. Android has all of this out of the box.
Remember also that rooted phone looses OTA upgrade possibility.
Everything depends on how you use your phone - there is the answer to your question

I am the complete opposite. If I have a device running an os, whether it be a computer, smartphone or whatever, I want full control of the device and it's os as it should be. I want full axx, full power of it.
edit: forgot why I came here in the first place, to the OP, glad you liked the vid and also glad my post wasn't wasted space like the majority of posts I see on here all the time, take it easy.

Rooting all depends on your need while using s4

If you're asking yourself that question then no, you shouldn't root it.

To root or not to root

To root or not to root
After my last bad experience and also after reading how some have faced issues after rooting their note 3 I was wondering if rooting has any adverse effects on the phones functionality. What are cons of rooting?
There's bit of lag on note 3 which is really annoying for such a beast.
Any advice would be much appreciated thanks
I own N9005 model from O2 unlocked.

riz157 said:
To root or not to root
After my last bad experience and also after reading how some have faced issues after rooting their note 3 I was wondering if rooting has any adverse effects on the phones functionality. What are cons of rooting?
There's bit of lag on note 3 which is really annoying for such a beast.
Any advice would be much appreciated thanks
I own N9005 model from O2 unlocked.
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There is an update from Samsung that should fix the lag.

I would wait until a good (really) good rom is out

elias2204 said:
There is an update from Samsung that should fix the lag.
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No update available for my model unfortunately.

CoolDevelopment said:
I would wait until a good (really) good rom is out
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Hmmm....are current roms poor or no improvement?

I've rooted my phone and hence sacrificed the ability to get OTA update from Samsung... but still, in my opinion, it really depends on the user own personal preference. I root my phone because there's a lot of apps that I am using requires root access (tasker, xposed, etc)...
There are currently not too many custom roms available for note 3 yet (as far as i know), better wait for a while if you're planning on rooting simply for the sake of flashing new rom. :good:

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I've rooted my phone and hence sacrificed the ability to get OTA update from Samsung... but still, in my opinion, it really depends on the user own personal preference. I root my phone because there's a lot of apps that I am using requires root access (tasker, xposed, etc)...
There are currently not too many custom roms available for note 3 yet (as far as i know), better wait for a while if you're planning on rooting simply for the sake of flashing new rom. :good:
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But for a popular device like taht i won't take too long

I'm tossing up the same thing and wondering if anyone can answer this question. If I flash back to stock firmware after rooting will device status revert to official thus allowing me to have ota updates again or does setting the knox flag mean I will be system status modified forever?
I know knox flag can't be reverted but what about system status?
Sent from my SM-N9005 now Free

jigzopuzzle said:
I've rooted my phone and hence sacrificed the ability to get OTA update from Samsung... but still, in my opinion, it really depends on the user own personal preference. I root my phone because there's a lot of apps that I am using requires root access (tasker, xposed, etc)...
There are currently not too many custom roms available for note 3 yet (as far as i know), better wait for a while if you're planning on rooting simply for the sake of flashing new rom. :good:
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Same here.
Although I'd liked to get a good recovery, too. I just rooted with stock recovery, so I can't make a full nand-backup so far. I tried xposed yesterday, but it didn't work. And as long as there isn't a working recovery option (except for going back to stock and installing my apps again vs. installing the full OS including apps and settings), I probably won't try xposed again. But I do miss the "skip tracks with volume rocker" feature.

Mikegrmn said:
Same here.
Although I'd liked to get a good recovery, too. I just rooted with stock recovery, so I can't make a full nand-backup so far. I tried xposed yesterday, but it didn't work. And as long as there isn't a working recovery option (except for going back to stock and installing my apps again vs. installing the full OS including apps and settings), I probably won't try xposed again. But I do miss the "skip tracks with volume rocker" feature.
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According to this website xposed should work? Are you using version 2.2?
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Which is the safest way to root please?
My main reason for rooting is to reduce lag and install custom ROMs, at the moment their aren't many ROMs to choose from but I'm sure it won't be too long before that changes.
Also My phone is from o2 and they are one of the carriers who still have their ugly logo bootup at startup, shut down which is very annoying.
Also if things go wrong I can still revert back to stock via Odin?
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Auto root by chainfire is the safest and easiest way ti root.
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riz157 said:
Which is the safest way to root please?
My main reason for rooting is to reduce lag and install custom ROMs, at the moment their aren't many ROMs to choose from but I'm sure it won't be too long before that changes.
Also My phone is from o2 and they are one of the carriers who still have their ugly logo bootup at startup, shut down which is very annoying.
Also if things go wrong I can still revert back to stock via Odin?
Sent from my SM-N9005 using Tapatalk 2
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Rooting or putting a custom rom(based on touchwiz) won't probably change anything.
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Yes that's true simply rooting wont get rid of lag however my main questions are which is the safest way to root and would I be able to flash generic rom via Odin? It's been awhile since I used Odin.
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Ever time I consider rooting I come across post were user bricked phone. This is really of putting don't fancy bricking my phone. However can't do with lag which is very annoying.
Which is the simplest and safest method of rooting?
Not worried about knox my Model N9005 on MJ3 FW, unlocked version from the UK. Thanks

Rooting does not brick your phone. Only users who don't read the instructions properly bricks their phones.
I have been rooting andriod phones since Samsung S2 with no bricks.
Rooting gives you 'Admin' rights on your phone and I want / need that to have full control of my device.
Rooting does not stop OTA updates but you will need to re-root for every new update.
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I had the same dilemma. I rooted my Note 1, flashed mods & ROMs, and it was eventually what I wanted. It was, however, locked in that version. I had no time to play with it any more, so left it.
On buying the Note 3, I flashed a stock ROM for the Note 1, got the updates, and it was much better than what I had customised. I guess I had my customised ROM earlier than any OTA update, so did benefit.
The other aspect is a firewall. You can now block apps from Mobile data access (although it is tedious), but not from WiFi access. You can, however, block the access that apps have to your data (although also tedious), so at least you may be safer.
Finally, we have the bloatware on the device. This generation of Andoid seems a bit better behaved than previous ones, and I can disable a lot of the stock apps, which is good. I am not finding any wakelocks (or at least not a great deal), and battery life is very good overall.
So, for me, I would like to have a firewall, but as for the rest of the system, it is perfectly good for me, and I have no current plans to root this device.

What's the easiest way of disabling stock apps such as trip advisor, flipboard, ant bloatware etc?
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dholms said:
What's the easiest way of disabling stock apps such as trip advisor, flipboard, ant bloatware etc?
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Unfortunately some of the ones you listed cannot be turned off in the app manager. Many other apps, can however be turned off. Once I rooted I deleted most of the third party nonsense and froze most of the extra Samsung apps.

Techweed said:
Unfortunately some of the ones you listed cannot be turned off in the app manager. Many other apps, can however be turned off. Once I rooted I deleted most of the third party nonsense and froze most of the extra Samsung apps.
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Do you keep Knox counter at 0x0 if you fiddle with deleting stock apps?
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Is there any reason not to root my new 6p?

Like the title says, is there any reason not to root my new 6p?
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Android pay won't work but other than that I love mine rooted
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funnel71 said:
Android pay won't work but other than that I love mine rooted
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Android Pay works with system-less root.
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That's what I have or so I thought but I can't seem to add any cards to it. It tells me my Android device isn't recognized. Do you know how to get around that
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I tried with systemless root and AP worked fine, but my company dinged me for having email installed and they detected root.
Sucks too because EX kernel plus stock seemed awesome. But having access to corporate email is more a daily must, and I don't want to carry two phones.

jpeg42 said:
I tried with systemless root and AP worked fine, but my company dinged me for having email installed and they detected root.
Sucks too because EX kernel plus stock seemed awesome. But having access to corporate email is more a daily must, and I don't want to carry two phones.
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I know what you mean, my company uses good for email access and it will shut down if root is detected. So, I just carry two phones
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funnel71 said:
I know what you mean, my company uses good for email access and it will shut down if root is detected. So, I just carry two phones
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I was reading over an Xposed module the other day that can hide root detection. I personally have no experience with this as I have no need to hide root. Have you tried using root masking apps or modules before?
And to the OP, no. I bought this phone specifically because its a nexus.... It was built to be rooted. Some will argue that point saying that android is so well optimized now that root isn't necessary, stock ROMs are no longer better than stock blah blah blah. Root still have amazing advantages. I say root all the way. Heisenberg wrote an amazing guide in the general section that will answer 99% of your questions about this phone when it comes to rooting and flashing. Anything else he and community will answer in the Q&A section.

Pain-N-Panic said:
I was reading over an Xposed module the other day that can hide root detection. I personally have no experience with this as I have no need to hide root. Have you tried using root masking apps or modules before?
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Some apps *cought* Snapchat *cough* don't work even with the root hiding xposed module. For some reason, I could still use snapchat even with root, but no xposed. On my Note 4, I couldn't use snapchat unless the thing is completely stock.

funnel71 said:
That's what I have or so I thought but I can't seem to add any cards to it. It tells me my Android device isn't recognized. Do you know how to get around that
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Once you've installed system-less root you have to remove xbin_bin folder in /su/bin if you forgot to do it when installing system-less. You also have to change the permissions of the /su/bin folder to 0751 from 0755. You can change the permissions through terminal on the phone, or with adb on the computer; you can also change the permissions with a file manager such as Root Explorer. I suggest you reboot the phone just as a precaution after making the changes.
Once you've done that you can check with one of the SafetyNet checking apps from the Play Store.
Pain-N-Panic said:
I was reading over an Xposed module the other day that can hide root detection. I personally have no experience with this as I have no need to hide root. Have you tried using root masking apps or modules before?
And to the OP, no. I bought this phone specifically because its a nexus.... It was built to be rooted. Some will argue that point saying that android is so well optimized now that root isn't necessary, stock ROMs are no longer better than stock blah blah blah. Root still have amazing advantages. I say root all the way. Heisenberg wrote an amazing guide in the general section that will answer 99% of your questions about this phone when it comes to rooting and flashing. Anything else he and community will answer in the Q&A section.
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Xposed automatically breaks AP...no way around that.

The two reasons I don't root it are android pay and updates. I know AP is possible but it's a cat and mouse game. Updates seem easier now than in previous versions but not nearly as convenient as they are unrooted.

NCguy said:
The two reasons I don't root it are android pay and updates. I know AP is possible but it's a cat and mouse game. Updates seem easier now than in previous versions but not nearly as convenient as they are unrooted.
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Most custom ROMs are usually updated before you get the official OTA from Google...

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Most custom ROMs are usually updated before you get the official OTA from Google...
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This. Plus updating via fastboot really isnt very difficult at all. A little time consuming but that's it.

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Most custom ROMs are usually updated before you get the official OTA from Google...
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The OP said root not ROM.

NCguy said:
The OP said root not ROM.
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Yeah, I was just pointing out that if you don't like to root because it's more difficult to get updates, you may want to try a custom ROM, then you can have the benefits of root and easy updates.
Of course you'll still have the same cat and mouse game with Google in regards to Android Pay, so if you find yourself shopping without your wallet allot, you might just wanna forget the whole thing...