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advice plz about rooting

So i had my S4 i9500 for 3 weeks now and everything is fine, besides the laggy camera app that sometimes reboots my S4 lol... I still have my 1 year warranty and i was thinking, is it worth rooting it and lose warranty? This is because Triangleaway isnt yet available for the i9500 yet, so is it best to wait for triangle away to be available or just root it now?
I don't really plan on installing custom roms, i just wanna disable some bloatware and install rooted apps.

Jason2k13 said:
So i had my S4 i9500 for 3 weeks now and everything is fine, besides the laggy camera app that sometimes reboots my S4 lol... I still have my 1 year warranty and i was thinking, is it worth rooting it and lose warranty? This is because Triangleaway isnt yet available for the i9500 yet, so is it best to wait for triangle away to be available or just root it now?
I don't really plan on installing custom roms, i just wanna disable some bloatware and install rooted apps.
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Well it depends on you whether u wanna root or not i personally have rooted without caring abt the warranty using CF ROOT method
Triangle away is something Chainfire will work only after his main priority projects and its a process so will take time waitng for TA makes no sense till then u root and remove all that u dont want and whenever it comes u just use and get ur warranty back

123hiten said:
Well it depends on you whether u wanna root or not i personally have rooted without caring abt the warranty using CF ROOT method
Triangle away is something Chainfire will work only after his main priority projects and its a process so will take time waitng for TA makes no sense till then u root and remove all that u dont want and whenever it comes u just use and get ur warranty back
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It's just unpredictable on when I may need to use that warranty, and I also want to root but i was hoping triangle away would be available by now. Also would you happen to know which root method to use, to get as close to stock as possible?
I own the octa i9500 version running XXXUMEA

Jason2k13 said:
It's just unpredictable on when I may need to use that warranty, and I also want to root but i was hoping triangle away would be available by now. Also would you happen to know which root method to use, to get as close to stock as possible?
I own the octa i9500 version running XXXUMEA
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2317105
Use the above link for stock rooted - odex / deodexed complete firmware
Or u can use CF ROOT method both are as good as stock
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2292615
as long as u dont have any hardware issue coming u dont have to go to service centre XDA is faster and better for software vrelated issues

Should I update or not

I am worried that the samsung knox will ruin my device.So should I update or not.What if I got bored of touchwiz and wanted to flash a new rom
Does updating mean I will lose the ability to root and flash forever?

If you search the forum you will see someone already posted a rom with the knox striped. Wait a bit longer and I am sure more versions will be coming.
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also it seems across a lot of Samsung devices 4.3 drains the battery faster, correct me if this is crap

help pls...
guys,,,then..cant we use odin or enythin els to flash the custom roms after installin official note 4.3 update which has knox??
any how my 1 year warranty got over...m not bothered about the warranty m just worried of gettin my phone bricked....so pls suggest what would happen......

remosk said:
guys,,,then..cant we use odin or enythin els to flash the custom roms after installin official note 4.3 update which has knox??
any how my 1 year warranty got over...m not bothered about the warranty m just worried of gettin my phone bricked....so pls suggest what would happen......
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as far as i did understand that, it is a question of the new bootloader, where a knox flag shows your flashing orgies, which cannot be resetted at the time (no triangle away can help us so far)...so if you try to get away from the original firmware, you raise the counter and void your warranty...well, if you had one
anyway, if you have no warranty, you can show your backside to knox. nothing will happen, but a flash counter shows what you were doing...
please be careful, of course you can brick your phone with flashing, as always, but this will not have anything to do with knox!
EDIT: the only thing is, there is no possibility to downgrade the bootloader by now! so, you cannot simply go back to 4.1! but you can of course flash 4.3 custom roms...

I still don't get why Samsung has this Knox thing. As far as I know, here in the EU, rooting and flashing ROMs does not void the warranty unless it is proven that the malfunction came from the owner messing with the software. So, having Knox raising a counter or flag the device or whatever, is pretty useless, at least here in the EU. We already have the flash counter. The only advantage may be that with Knox, there is no way to conceal the precious flashes and that we can claim the warranty when we DID messed up the phone somehow, because if we didn't, the warranty is still active.

Batteriah said:
I still don't get why Samsung has this Knox thing. As far as I know, here in the EU, rooting and flashing ROMs does not void the warranty unless it is proven that the malfunction came from the owner messing with the software. So, having Knox raising a counter or flag the device or whatever, is pretty useless, at least here in the EU. We already have the flash counter. The only advantage may be that with Knox, there is no way to conceal the precious flashes and that we can claim the warranty when we DID messed up the phone somehow, because if we didn't, the warranty is still active.
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Not sure about n2 but with n3 physical damage, in the form of a broken efuse, is actually the result of tripping knox. So even under eu regulations, the warranty is void once knox is tripped.

Bruce lee roy said:
Not sure about n2 but with n3 physical damage, in the form of a broken efuse, is actually the result of tripping knox. So even under eu regulations, the warranty is void once knox is tripped.
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What a cheap trick they made. Since modifying software does not void warranty, they make a little piece of hardware get damaged so the warranty gets void even though that the so called e-fuse is non-essential (I think) for the smartphone correct functioning . Wow, that is even worst that what I was thinking. Samsung really messed up this time, what's the point of having an Android then? So, after all, we people from the EU, can't get away with our flashes and customizations...
Thanks for the info, btw.

Stick to 4.1.2 and enjoy mindless flashing of custom roms.

Let't go!!!
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frnds.....
1)I am on stock 4.1.2 , non rooted..I never tried to root as I didnt want to loose my warranty..but now my 1 year warrant has got over..so I am planning to root my device and install custom roms to it as I am fed up of these samsung updates...so can I pls get a appropriate link where in I can get a clear instructions to root my note 2 n7100 and install custom roms...
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2) if I install ditto note 3 4.3 rom for note 2 can I get back to the older versions of android like 4.1.2 official or custom or 4.2 custom roms...?? and
3)is knox present on custom ditto note3 4.3 rom for note 2??
thank u...
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remosk said:
frnds.....
1)I am on stock 4.1.2 , non rooted..I never tried to root as I didnt want to loose my warranty..but now my 1 year warrant has got over..so I am planning to root my device and install custom roms to it as I am fed up of these samsung updates...so can I pls get a appropriate link where in I can get a clear instructions to root my note 2 n7100 and install custom roms...
and
2) if I install ditto note 3 4.3 rom for note 2 can I get back to the older versions of android like 4.1.2 official or custom or 4.2 custom roms...?? and
3)is knox present on custom ditto note3 4.3 rom for note 2??
thank u...
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Knox has been deleted at the DN3 Rom.
Anyways AFAIK you flash DN3 Rom from Stock 4.1.2 the Bootloader will be still the old one and you have to use the wifi fix.

Petarsson said:
as far as i did understand that, it is a question of the new bootloader, where a knox flag shows your flashing orgies, which cannot be resetted at the time (no triangle away can help us so far)...so if you try to get away from the original firmware, you raise the counter and void your warranty...well, if you had one
anyway, if you have no warranty, you can show your backside to knox. nothing will happen, but a flash counter shows what you were doing...
please be careful, of course you can brick your phone with flashing, as always, but this will not have anything to do with knox!
EDIT: the only thing is, there is no possibility to downgrade the bootloader by now! so, you cannot simply go back to 4.1! but you can of course flash 4.3 custom roms...
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yeah agree totally on this,. they make sure you only have 1 way go to up in version of rom without able to go back down to older rom by locking it with knox,. it is very cheap method samsung is using this time, kind of what's else is the point of not able to flashing all fancy custom rom ?

Ditto Note 3 is awesome. They just released v3 and works great. I was on 4.1.2 for the longest time then updated to 4.3 official release but Knox was so annoying I have decided to go for custom rom and I am very happy so far.
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agree with you
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Knox has been deleted at the DN3 Rom.
Anyways AFAIK you flash DN3 Rom from Stock 4.1.2 the Bootloader will be still the old one and you have to use the wifi fix.
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thanks for the response bro...
1)well...after flashin the dn3 custom rom..can I still flash back to stock 4.1.2 in case if I face any problems with dn3 rom??
2) will I loose my imei if I flash from stock 4.1.2 to dn3 rom or when i flash back to stock 4.1.2 rom from custom rom??
3) if yes, how can I secure my imei,, I hav heard about some efs stuff..how to back up it and keep it safe and can I know in what situation will this efs be use ful??
4)I am from india and my version of stock android is shown in the fig below
can u pls tell me wer can I find a odin flashable stock rom similar to mine which is as follows
baseband:N7100DDDMG1
Build number:N7100XXDMGI
Thank you.....
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1. Yes Flashback should be possible.
2+3. In any case do a backup of your imei, there are various possibilties but you need root.

After several days of sheer frustration with 4.3 constantly rebooting, freezing my phone, causing the "black screen of death", numerous force closes, broken apps and producing many permission related errors which can be seen in logcat, I downgraded to 4.1.2 this morning and haven't had a single issue in 12 hours. I have no good reason to ever change my firmware from 4.1.2. It's solid as a rock and trouble-free. Maybe if stability improves on 4.3, I may try it out again in six months.
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I am not eager to flash, but because I have a gear now, I updated to open Asia mj5 4.3.
Rock solid until now, gear works 100%.
The only worry I have is future updates, because mj5 is a "leak".
But, mj5 is stable for me, although it seems a bit slower at times as the 4.1.2
Never rooted, standard all the way.
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Batteriah said:
What a cheap trick they made. Since modifying software does not void warranty, they make a little piece of hardware get damaged so the warranty gets void even though that the so called e-fuse is non-essential (I think) for the smartphone correct functioning . Wow, that is even worst that what I was thinking. Samsung really messed up this time, what's the point of having an Android then? So, after all, we people from the EU, can't get away with our flashes and customizations...
Thanks for the info, btw.
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Guys, I don't think KNOX e-fuse is there to void the warranty or for Samsung to know if you flashed your device or not. KNOX e-fuse is there so that you know if the phone has been messed up with if you actualy use KNOX. This is for the COMPANIES that need enhanced security etc. And for this security there must be a way to tell if the device has been messed with. For most people that don't use company phone (and for majority of those who do) KNOX is not interesting because they don't need it. But I understand why banks and other institutions that demand security would need it.
So it is no cheap trick by Samsung to get to void ordinary user's warranty, it is a security measure which only some companies will use.

[Q] Just bought an S4 and did the 4.3 OTA and have Knox, should I return the phone?

Hi everyone, I have about 7 days left on my "14 day return policy" from the Sprint store. I love XDA and it's been a HUGE help to me in the last few years. I like the phone, it's pretty snappy, and the camera is great. But I can't use a phone without root (who can??) and eventually Samsung will stop pushing updates to this phone so I'm going to need to flash custom ROMs (cyanogenmod did wonders on my last phone, the Galaxy S1). I also know that I can't mount SMB or CFS shares without flashing a kernel that supports it and I'm not sure if the S4's official firmware supports the ability to do so (which I believe requires root anyway, so I guess I answered my own question.
I have a couple of questions about the S4 that I'm hoping someone who has experience can tell me about this.
1) Can I root using VRoot and NOT trip the Knox warranty bit?
2) After rooting, can I install a recovery (I've read that Philz CWM recovery works but can't find definitive answers on this).
3) Should I even care about the Knox software?
I don't need to use the phone in an enterprise environment, but I also don't want the phone's bootloader locked to Samsung firmwares if it means I won't be able to install custom FW's or kernels.
Should I return the phone? I'll pay the $35 restocking fee just to save myself from having to deal with Samsung's (and this my opinion) bonehead move of abandoning its developer userbase.
Any and all responses would be appreciated. Thanks for reading and helping!

epi4gtn said:
Hi everyone, I have about 7 days left on my "14 day return policy" from the Sprint store. I love XDA and it's been a HUGE help to me in the last few years. I like the phone, it's pretty snappy, and the camera is great. But I can't use a phone without root (who can??) and eventually Samsung will stop pushing updates to this phone so I'm going to need to flash custom ROMs (cyanogenmod did wonders on my last phone, the Galaxy S1). I also know that I can't mount SMB or CFS shares without flashing a kernel that supports it and I'm not sure if the S4's official firmware supports the ability to do so (which I believe requires root anyway, so I guess I answered my own question.
I have a couple of questions about the S4 that I'm hoping someone who has experience can tell me about this.
1) Can I root using VRoot and NOT trip the Knox warranty bit?
2) After rooting, can I install a recovery (I've read that Philz CWM recovery works but can't find definitive answers on this).
3) Should I even care about the Knox software?
I don't need to use the phone in an enterprise environment, but I also don't want the phone's bootloader locked to Samsung firmwares if it means I won't be able to install custom FW's or kernels.
Should I return the phone? I'll pay the $35 restocking fee just to save myself from having to deal with Samsung's (and this my opinion) bonehead move of abandoning its developer userbase.
Any and all responses would be appreciated. Thanks for reading and helping!
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I am not worried about the Knox bit. Mine is tripped and it's not preventing anything, AFAIK. I can still install Sammy firmwares, ROM's that are at the correct version/level, mods, apps, etc. It seems it's really only a flag for enterprise users. I agree it kind of sucks, and I'm not a fan of it, but it doesn't seem to be causing any real harm at this point warranty or service wise. Some say it may prevent Samsung from honoring the warranty, but I'm not sure that's true, based on reading the forums.
As far as Samsung stopping pushing firmwares to this phone, that should be a long way off since this is their flagship smartphone at this point. It's a great phone and I've been very happy with mine, which I got the weekend they were released. Rooted, stock rom, hotspot mod. So much better phone than my old HTC Androids!

jejb said:
I am not worried about the Knox bit. Mine is tripped and it's not preventing anything, AFAIK. I can still install Sammy firmwares, ROM's that are at the correct version/level, mods, apps, etc. It seems it's really only a flag for enterprise users. I agree it kind of sucks, and I'm not a fan of it, but it doesn't seem to be causing any real harm at this point warranty or service wise. Some say it may prevent Samsung from honoring the warranty, but I'm not sure that's true, based on reading the forums.
As far as Samsung stopping pushing firmwares to this phone, that should be a long way off since this is their flagship smartphone at this point. It's a great phone and I've been very happy with mine, which I got the weekend they were released. Rooted, stock rom, hotspot mod. So much better phone than my old HTC Androids!
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This is just a thought... but... check your phone, when I got mine not too long back it still came with 4.2 on it. If yours still has 4.2 you wouldn't have to worry about knox as long as you didn't take the OTA. You could root it and rom it all you wanted.

Yes you should return the phone. That way you **** all the people who return their phones for legitimate warranty/insurance reasons with higher costs.
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frostedunit said:
Yes you should return the phone. That way you **** all the people who return their phones for legitimate warranty/insurance reasons with higher costs.
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I haven't done any type of rooting or modification to the phone yet. That's the reason I'm asking, I haven't tripped the counter. I'm just aggravated by not having root and being able to remove this crapware. I wouldn't be ****ing anyone. Please don't be a ****.
jejb said:
I am not worried about the Knox bit. Mine is tripped and it's not preventing anything, AFAIK. I can still install Sammy firmwares, ROM's that are at the correct version/level, mods, apps, etc. It seems it's really only a flag for enterprise users. I agree it kind of sucks, and I'm not a fan of it, but it doesn't seem to be causing any real harm at this point warranty or service wise. Some say it may prevent Samsung from honoring the warranty, but I'm not sure that's true, based on reading the forums.
As far as Samsung stopping pushing firmwares to this phone, that should be a long way off since this is their flagship smartphone at this point. It's a great phone and I've been very happy with mine, which I got the weekend they were released. Rooted, stock rom, hotspot mod. So much better phone than my old HTC Androids!
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This is great news, can you point me to the tool you used to root the phone? I've read the Chinese VRoot method doesn't trip the counter, but installs "Superuser" which can subsequently be removed and replaced with SuperSU. I think using SuperSU and something like DroidWall to monitor the device to make sure nothing fishy is going on will help us determine whether or not VRoot is really malware (I've read comments saying that it's some kind of spyware but I'm not sure of the technical prowess of those commenters).
What recovery are you using to flash custom ROMs?
And as asked in a previous post-- Did you root before taking the OTA? Or did you take the OTA and do you see the Knox Warranty Bit marked as 0x1 in the stock recovery?
Thanks for the replies, appreciate all the info guys!

epi4gtn said:
I haven't done any type of rooting or modification to the phone yet. That's the reason I'm asking, I haven't tripped the counter. I'm just aggravated by not having root and being able to remove this crapware. I wouldn't be ****ing anyone. Please don't be a ****.
This is great news, can you point me to the tool you used to root the phone? I've read the Chinese VRoot method doesn't trip the counter, but installs "Superuser" which can subsequently be removed and replaced with SuperSU. I think using SuperSU and something like DroidWall to monitor the device to make sure nothing fishy is going on will help us determine whether or not VRoot is really malware (I've read comments saying that it's some kind of spyware but I'm not sure of the technical prowess of those commenters).
What recovery are you using to flash custom ROMs?
And as asked in a previous post-- Did you root before taking the OTA? Or did you take the OTA and do you see the Knox Warranty Bit marked as 0x1 in the stock recovery?
Thanks for the replies, appreciate all the info guys![/QUOTE
I used an app from thePlayStore called Triangle Away to reset the counter. You have to be rooted, but it works perfectly. Just an FYI.
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epi4gtn said:
I haven't done any type of rooting or modification to the phone yet. That's the reason I'm asking, I haven't tripped the counter. I'm just aggravated by not having root and being able to remove this crapware. I wouldn't be ****ing anyone. Please don't be a ****.
This is great news, can you point me to the tool you used to root the phone? I've read the Chinese VRoot method doesn't trip the counter, but installs "Superuser" which can subsequently be removed and replaced with SuperSU. I think using SuperSU and something like DroidWall to monitor the device to make sure nothing fishy is going on will help us determine whether or not VRoot is really malware (I've read comments saying that it's some kind of spyware but I'm not sure of the technical prowess of those commenters).
What recovery are you using to flash custom ROMs?
And as asked in a previous post-- Did you root before taking the OTA? Or did you take the OTA and do you see the Knox Warranty Bit marked as 0x1 in the stock recovery?
Thanks for the replies, appreciate all the info guys!
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Dont use vroot. Until some dev can pin point what the chinese root method actually does. And if your on 4.2.2 your ok but once ota to 4.3 then you have knox bootloader meaning you cant downgrade firmwares. It wont stop you from changing kernels and roms. Knox flag just voids your warranty with samsung but if you have insurance with sprint they can care less about it tripped. I updated to 4.3 and tripped the knox amd I havent seen no problems really. Btw please make research this has been talked about lately too much.
SoFaKiNgStOkeD said:
epi4gtn said:
I haven't done any type of rooting or modification to the phone yet. That's the reason I'm asking, I haven't tripped the counter. I'm just aggravated by not having root and being able to remove this crapware. I wouldn't be ****ing anyone. Please don't be a ****.
This is great news, can you point me to the tool you used to root the phone? I've read the Chinese VRoot method doesn't trip the counter, but installs "Superuser" which can subsequently be removed and replaced with SuperSU. I think using SuperSU and something like DroidWall to monitor the device to make sure nothing fishy is going on will help us determine whether or not VRoot is really malware (I've read comments saying that it's some kind of spyware but I'm not sure of the technical prowess of those commenters).
What recovery are you using to flash custom ROMs?
And as asked in a previous post-- Did you root before taking the OTA? Or did you take the OTA and do you see the Knox Warranty Bit marked as 0x1 in the stock recovery?
Thanks for the replies, appreciate all the info guys![/QUOTE
I used an app from thePlayStore called Triangle Away to reset the counter. You have to be rooted, but it works perfectly. Just an FYI.
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That only works if your on 4.2. It wont reset the knox bootloader counter.
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epi4gtn said:
This is great news, can you point me to the tool you used to root the phone? I've read the Chinese VRoot method doesn't trip the counter, but installs "Superuser" which can subsequently be removed and replaced with SuperSU. I think using SuperSU and something like DroidWall to monitor the device to make sure nothing fishy is going on will help us determine whether or not VRoot is really malware (I've read comments saying that it's some kind of spyware but I'm not sure of the technical prowess of those commenters).
What recovery are you using to flash custom ROMs?
And as asked in a previous post-- Did you root before taking the OTA? Or did you take the OTA and do you see the Knox Warranty Bit marked as 0x1 in the stock recovery?
Thanks for the replies, appreciate all the info guys!
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Yes, my Knox bit it tripped/set. It is 0x1 on the download screen. Can't view it in recovery. I just used CF Auto Root after going to 4.3. Should be easy to search and find that thread. I'm on the stock rom with tweaks.
Using TWRP recovery, but I've tried several, including Philz and OUDHS. It seems Philz is the flavor of the month, so you might want to go with that just to be safe.
I did not root before taking the OTA. I don't think I'd try it that way. I was rooted, but went back to stock to take the update. If you get back to stock, reset the custom bits on your download screen (triangle away and RTN's seem to do that, but might have to do more than one), recover your apps/data and then take the OTA, it should be the most sure fire method. Then root, custom recovery, nandroid backup and play from there.

jejb said:
Yes, my Knox bit it tripped/set. It is 0x1 on the download screen. Can't view it in recovery. I just used CF Auto Root after going to 4.3. Should be easy to search and find that thread. I'm on the stock rom with tweaks.
Using TWRP recovery, but I've tried several, including Philz and OUDHS. It seems Philz is the flavor of the month, so you might want to go with that just to be safe.
I did not root before taking the OTA. I don't think I'd try it that way. I was rooted, but went back to stock to take the update. If you get back to stock, reset the custom bits on your download screen (triangle away and RTN's seem to do that, but might have to do more than one), recover your apps/data and then take the OTA, it should be the most sure fire method. Then root, custom recovery, nandroid backup and play from there.
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Thank you, I plan to just use CF-Auto-Root to root the phone. I'm starting to care less about the Knox bit getting tripped.
I came across this post by rawintellect that seems to have everything I'd need out of the phone, rooted/deodexed MK2 with all the bloat removed, BUT it says in the description that the Knox Bootloader is removed *EDIT: After thinking about the statement some more, I think he means the Knox bootloader is NOT included in the rom, but this raises another question, can I install it on a phone WITH the knox bootloader?), so I'm afraid of attempting to flash it because as I understand it, it's impossible to replace the knox bootloader.
Here's the post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=48516106
This individual seems to have gotten everything working: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=48516106&postcount=88
Do you know if anyone is able to flash Philz through Odin successfully on the MJA/knox bootloader?

I took mine back after I took the OTA. I was honest about why I was returning it, that the firmware introduces restrictions and annoying features (I cited the multiple WiFi security warnings in particular) I was not willing to accept, and the independent store I was dealing with gave me an exchange to a new phone with 4.2. I first asked if they could downgrade the phone to 4.2, including the bootloader, they researched that option, finding it impossible.
If they had not given me the exchange, I would have picked a different color and done it that way.

Try this Guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2572000
MrTasselhof

To root or not to root the s5?

Hey guys I'm pondering whether or not to root my s5 and I have yet to find THE reason. I'd appreciate it if you took a second to write down if you rooted or not. The pros and cons pertaining the the s5. So far there's only a handfull of roms available, a far cry from the previous, galaxy s forums.
IMO Xposed framework would be the only valid reason but then again is it worth tripping the knox counter and voiding our warranty?
What do you think?

I'm curious to know this also, unless some way is ever discovered to root without tripping Knox, or somehow reset Knox.
The one thing I'd love to do is enable more apps in multi-window. Does anyone know an easy way to do that without root?
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Hi,
I had my device rooted a couple days ago and I could'n be happier. I flashed a custom light ROM and IO have an amazing battery life now. I could last up to 24 hours with 7 hours screen on.
On more thing, you could experience more Android OS when you have your device rooted.
So what is the reason for not rooting your device?

Void warranty, that's really all.
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I'm still unsure if knox is tripped on rooting or if it's when a kernel/rom is flashed. I'd be happy to run a rooted stock rom for adblock and a few other apps that need root.
Very hesitant to lose the warranty on this even though I've beta tested and flashed hundreds of times in the past with other phones and never really worried about warranty as they were pretty much all used handsets.
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Prof Peach said:
I'm still unsure if knox is tripped on rooting or if it's when a kernel/rom is flashed. I'd be happy to run a rooted stock rom for adblock and a few other apps that need root.
Very hesitant to lose the warranty on this even though I've beta tested and flashed hundreds of times in the past with other phones and never really worried about warranty as they were pretty much all used handsets.
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You know that's a good question because I remember being asked a question when I rooted my first s5 about knox. Maybe someone else could answer that one.
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mrnovanova said:
You know that's a good question because I remember being asked a question when I rooted my first s5 about knox. Maybe someone else could answer that one.
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The best way to root, is to remove knox completely if possible, its a stupid POS spyware app, that eats battery and has no purpose for the end user on the Galaxy S5. There is an app called Triangle away or something of the similar sort that can "trick" the phone into appearing that it has not been tampered with if you need to do a warranty.
I am not sure about your specific model, but if the bootloader is unlocked, why dont you flash AllianceROM, or one of the others which by default has knox removed, and root.

solrazr said:
The best way to root, is to remove knox completely if possible, its a stupid POS spyware app, that eats battery and has no purpose for the end user on the Galaxy S5. There is an app called Triangle away or something of the similar sort that can "trick" the phone into appearing that it has not been tampered with if you need to do a warranty.
I am not sure about your specific model, but if the bootloader is unlocked, why dont you flash AllianceROM, or one of the others which by default has knox removed, and root.
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Yeah, good point. Triangle away doesn't reset the knox counter not yet anyway. The thing is I have nothing against knox I appreciate the extra level of security I like the private mode and I like the fact that I can stop the phone from being rooted or reset should it fall into the wrong hands. That's a plus in my book. Furthermore none of the ROMs out that this moment make me wanna root I find that samsung has come a long way since my s2 customization wise. The phone is awesome out of the box IMHO.
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mrnovanova said:
Hey guys I'm pondering whether or not to root my s5 and I have yet to find THE reason. I'd appreciate it if you took a second to write down if you rooted or not. The pros and cons pertaining the the s5. So far there's only a handfull of roms available, a far cry from the previous, galaxy s forums.
IMO Xposed framework would be the only valid reason but then again is it worth tripping the knox counter and voiding our warranty?
What do you think?
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Hi! Some other opinions can be found in his thread (also my answer): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2724257
Cheers!
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zeldavn said:
Hi,
I had my device rooted a couple days ago and I could'n be happier. I flashed a custom light ROM and IO have an amazing battery life now. I could last up to 24 hours with 7 hours screen on.
On more thing, you could experience more Android OS when you have your device rooted.
So what is the reason for not rooting your device?
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Rooting the device might prevent some native apps from functioning such as allshare, screen cast etc...

Root is so good! believe me.:laugh:

hfs1314 said:
Root is so good! believe me.:laugh:
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Lol. I know. I'm actually convinced now. Screw the warranty LOL...:silly:

As long as you know what you're doing and you're voiding the phone's 1 year waranty with it. Think before you do it because it could never be undone (KNOX 0x1).
I'm leaving my S5 unrooted.

Root! No root, no fun!
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I think as of right now there is no good reason to root the S5....none of the current ROMs are worth breaking the warranty for and we aren't lagging behind the android OS versions that we want urgently catch up to. My advice would be to wait until more advanced rooting methods come around that bypass the knox tripping or until CM, AOKP, AOSP etc ROMS start rolling out or if we get a couple of Android OS versions behind, whichever comes first

mrnovanova said:
Hey guys I'm pondering whether or not to root my s5 and I have yet to find THE reason. I'd appreciate it if you took a second to write down if you rooted or not. The pros and cons pertaining the the s5. So far there's only a handfull of roms available, a far cry from the previous, galaxy s forums.
IMO Xposed framework would be the only valid reason but then again is it worth tripping the knox counter and voiding our warranty?
What do you think?
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today i ended up rooting because i was going criminally insane not having root, but i ran into a problem where the play store got deleted so i had to go a bit further and flash a new rom. ive had root on every android i have had besides the htc my touch. the features you get with root are so wonderful apps like adaway (most useful app in the history of apps), xposed installer, root browser, and many more that i cant think of yet are so useful that i couldnt live without them any longer. plus you can flash different roms if you love the s5 but hate touchwiz there is a rom for that. you have cm11 aokp crdroid paranoid and aosp to give you a stock experience. true at the moment you can not reset knox and if that is an issue for you then dont root. or.... dunk your phone in water without the cover on lol just kidding i do not recommend doing that. the choice is yours though i know others and i love having root and cant live without it. but there are just as many people who love root but dont want to trip knox. for me i ended up rooting because i found out my carrier does not check if the device is modified or not when you trade in so i just said screw it.take all counts into consideration is root something you need or do you not need some of the features you get with root. simple question is are you a hardcore user or basic user?

IMO, if not rooted, ROMed etc, why come to XDA Developers website, you know what I mean?
I do it first day on all devices, have'nt bricked one yet :silly: not!
I love to tweak the hell out of the device, rid it of bloat, block adds, not to mention the advantages of more regular updates and fixes.
Also if using custom ROM you're getting a ROM that has had many man/team hours spent on it rather than a ROM developed for a commercial mass production, theres a comment above that states "no ROM is worthy of flashing on S5 yet" well I'd like to ask you, how the hell do you know if you have'nt flashed anything yet?

I root my S5 first day and I didn't face any problem with Knox Can someone explain to me why Knox is problem ?
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Mohannad-K said:
I root my S5 first day and I didn't face any problem with Knox Can someone explain to me why Knox is problem ?
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Triggering knox will void your warranty without possibility to undo it.
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There are also certain features that may not function after tripping Knox. Additionally most companies won't let you BYOD after Knox trips. Unless they "forget" to check
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What to do tomorrow when I get my S7E?

Hi guys, after overthinking it *way* too much I decided to order a new S7E through my provider (T-mobile) in Holland.
I was afraid to get one because i'm clumsy as hell and drop my phones hundreds of time. Till now i've always been extremely lucky (S1, S3, G3) but the S7 is very shatter prone to say the least...
After reading countless threads and videos about screenprotectors (liquid, TG, plastic, cases) I still don't know what to choose
Anyway, I'm getting it tomorrow and I read that knox get tripped as soon as you root.
Does anyone in Holland have experience with warranty being rejected because knox was tripped?
I think I really want to root (Titanium backup, xposed mods, several apps that work better with root) but maybe I'll have to hold off until I know for sure that the hardware is working fine?
So IF I decide to go for it and root with CF-Root, is it true that when using Flashfire you basically don't need TWRP anymore as you can flash zipfiles and create/restore backups with it?
And when you root, do you immediately lose automatic OTA? Or do you lose that when flashing a customized rom?
Thanks for any tips

if you install customized rom so need TRWP !
get new s7 phone
- no install new system update
- odin flash CF auto root - http://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-edge/development/sm-g935-exynos-cf-auto-root-t3337354
- odin flash TRWP
after
- TRWP install Phoenix ROM
- TRWP install Protheus Kernel
- enjoy your Life and great phone

Dont go for the glass protector try to get a solution based screen protector And if you care for warranty dont root, until rooting without tripping knox possible .
Flashing custom rom will loose the ability to OTA. But, most custom roms support their own OTA
I am not on the only root thing, it is always better to have a custom recovery when you are in to modding.

dayl1ght said:
if you install customized rom so need TRWP !
get new s7 phone
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I will certainly look into optimized stock roms as soon as I have rooted, the question still is, to root or not to root
I'm curious to know how warranty reparations in Holland end up when you've rooted your device.
sohojmanush said:
Dont go for the glass protector try to get a solution based screen protector And if you care for warranty dont root, until rooting without tripping knox possible .
Flashing custom rom will loose the ability to OTA. But, most custom roms support their own OTA
I am not on the only root thing, it is always better to have a custom recovery when you are in to modding.
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I've normally not been really worried about warranty, but i've read many warnings from people here that your screen might go bad after a month or two, so I guess I want knox to be untripped :|
And you're right, when using custom roms it might be safer to have TWRP to come to the rescue when needed.

latino147 said:
I'm curious to know how warranty reparations in Holland end up when you've rooted your device.
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in Europe root phones , maybe no warranty.
only UK have warranty with Root Phone

Try not to drop it.

latino147 said:
I will certainly look into optimized stock roms as soon as I have rooted, the question still is, to root or not to root
I'm curious to know how warranty reparations in Holland end up when you've rooted your device.
I've normally not been really worried about warranty, but i've read many warnings from people here that your screen might go bad after a month or two, so I guess I want knox to be untripped :|
And you're right, when using custom roms it might be safer to have TWRP to come to the rescue when needed.
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Actually for Samsung it doesn't matter , get Smart Switch> Download mode > brand new OS > (Except) Knox tripped . But, Smart Switch take ages to download .. to me no matter how fast my connection is. you know OEM server's are always slow