While this is "kind of" an HTC fanboy post, I would like others opinions... I love the ONE (The reason I'm posting here), but HTC has fallen behing when it comes to dev support and all together ingenuity (no "But... boomsound" please). I Hate Samsung as an HTC fanboy, but they have been consistent with their products, and that conveys a certain feeling of comfort with a product... A superior screen, and sound, does that really make it better? I want honest opinions (I understand that is very unlikely). Come on people of XDA, everybody wants to buy a superior product...
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While this is "kind of" an HTC fanboy post, I would like others opinions... I love the ONE (The reason I'm posting here), but HTC has fallen behing when it comes to dev support and all together ingenuity (no "But... boomsound" please). I Hate Samsung as an HTC fanboy, but they have been consistent with their products, and that conveys a certain feeling of comfort with a product... A superior screen, and sound, does that really make it better? I want honest opinions (I understand that is very unlikely). Come on people of XDA, everybody wants to buy a superior product...
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I always try to go for galaxy phone but every time I saw their new phone screen I give up.
I really do not know why people like galaxy screen which is not bright at all, hard to read text, only when play video maybe it is good.
No disrespect as it's of course a matter of opinion.
But I think I have to take the opposite side when it comes to ingenuity. I think HTC has done pretty good this year.
Complete Aluminium design - Complete first in smartphone design
Front facing stereo speakers - No one has yet to do with these generations of Smartphones
4MP camera ultrapixel or whatever (it's a trade off for detail/low light but it still counts as ingenuity as HTC is breaking away from everyone else and being original)
Blink Feed/Sense 5- while it's not a complete new idea it is something we haven't seen implemented on Android in this way. A permanent social feed.
And the Zoe capturing video and picture at the same time may be gimmicky, but still showing ingenuity
I'd love to hear why you think opposite though :thumbup:
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While this is "kind of" an HTC fanboy post, I would like others opinions... I love the ONE (The reason I'm posting here), but HTC has fallen behing when it comes to dev support and all together ingenuity (no "But... boomsound" please). I Hate Samsung as an HTC fanboy, but they have been consistent with their products, and that conveys a certain feeling of comfort with a product... A superior screen, and sound, does that really make it better? I want honest opinions (I understand that is very unlikely). Come on people of XDA, everybody wants to buy a superior product...
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The S4 is only going to make sense for exactly two reasons, and that will be microSD and removable battery. Snapdragon means development will be much easier, and S-OFF will happen faster. I can break it down point by point and explain with the engineer's perspective why HTC is doing the right thing to make the best product, even if it doesn't sound as impressive.
You are thinking about picking the Galaxy S4S over the HTC One?
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You are thinking about picking the Galaxy S4S over the HTC One?
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You mean Galaxy S3S?
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You mean Galaxy S3S?
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You're a champion Nick!
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I see where you're coming from OP, HTC really lags sometimes when releasing kernel source versus Samsung
Personally, I'm a die-hard Sense man. I love it. Yet, my next will be Samsung because the super easy rooting and no need to do any "wire" tricks and all this risky stuff to root that comes with an HTC device now is a PITA. I mean Samsung comes with an unlocked bootloader versus locked HTC bootloader and also nand-locked. Makes it difficult to choose, but I'd rather go with greater dev support and higher chances of gaining root and gaining root safely.
And this has nothing to do with ingenuity. HTC is doing some nice things as notsointeresting pointed out, but the other things theyre doing is really making them dig their own grave, at least from the way i see it. I mean, the whole reason Android has gained so much ground on Apple and actually surpassed it was mainly because of the whole "open source" thing that lead to the creation of a huge developer / contributor community. Yet companies like Motorola, LG, and HTC make it really difficult to take advantage of these community-contributed material by locking their devices' bootloaders and generally making it difficult to root. In light of this, its no surprise that Samsung is so popular now
I'm seriously thinking about getting the HTC one, I am so done with Samsung and their plastic phones. My only concern with the HTC one is the non removable battery. Let me be more specific, I absolutely love rooting and flashing custom Roms on my phones. In the past when my phone would freeze and there was no other option, I would just pull the battery and presto, however, with a non removable battery what are we supposed to do if the phone freezes up on us... What are our options???
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I'm seriously thinking about getting the HTC one, I am so done with Samsung and their plastic phones. My only concern with the HTC one is the non removable battery. Let me be more specific, I absolutely love rooting and flashing custom Roms on my phones. In the past when my phone would freeze and there was no other option, I would just pull the battery and presto, however, with a non removable battery what are we supposed to do if the phone freezes up on us... What are our options???
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Throw it against a wall with a good case on? Lol idk, this was one of the things keeping me from getting the evo lte was it? Or whichever one had the nonremovable sdcard / battery
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I'm seriously thinking about getting the HTC one, I am so done with Samsung and their plastic phones. My only concern with the HTC one is the non removable battery. Let me be more specific, I absolutely love rooting and flashing custom Roms on my phones. In the past when my phone would freeze and there was no other option, I would just pull the battery and presto, however, with a non removable battery what are we supposed to do if the phone freezes up on us... What are our options???
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Press and hold power for about 10 seconds and that simulates a battery pull.
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Press and hold power for about 10 seconds and that simulates a battery pull.
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Shut up!!! It's that easy?? Omg, sorry for sounding like such a noob, it's just that the HTC one will be my first phone with a non removable battery. I had no idea that's all you had to do. Thanks, can't wait to get my one now
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You know what I thought about how easy it is to root and flash roms on Samsung devices and how slightly more difficult it is to root etc htc. But then I thought could I own another plastic phone and every time the answer was "NO I couldn't" even if it was easier to root.
Easy rooting is invalid with this device. You guys have not been in the dev section? There is a superroot where it roots your device at boot with just a file and a click.
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Shut up!!! It's that easy?? Omg, sorry for sounding like such a noob, it's just that the HTC one will be my first phone with a non removable battery. I had no idea that's all you had to do. Thanks, can't wait to get my one now
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You do realise it's the same with Samsung phones as well? Just holding power button is much easier than removing your phone from its case, taking off back cover, Battery pull, replace cover, replace case....
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Seriously people saying Samsung is easier to root and HTC is worse at software development support, YOU GUYS MUST NEVER OWN BOTH OF THEM! ( p.s I have hox and s2 )
Odin is pratically the dumbest software to flash an OTA or root kernel or recovery. ( Okay not dumb but hard to use ) and Samsung OTA namings are the worst. With all the alphabets naming you need to search and search again for your desired version. Whereas HTC is so easy by looking at the numbers only. And updating an OTA only requires you to fastboot flash a stock recovery then run the OTA.exe then its done.
Besides, HTC always provide bootloader unlock on htcdev.com ( yes One is already available ). And its easy as 1,2,3 which I see no points for people always complaining about it. Although no S-Off really make something a lot more difficult on HOX, ( flashing kernel is a pain, yes ) but seeing how Snapdragon processors usually have problem to achieve a S-Off this is not a big issue too.
After living one year with non removable SD n battery I actually get used to it. With non-removable battery you won't have to pull ur precious battery cover apart to restart a phone freezes at flashing ROMs ( admit it you hate to take apart your phone, my heart just aches when taking apart battery cover of S2 or incredible S ) and with non-removable SD you always clean it up so less defragmentation occurs.
I may sound biased but this is truly from someone who has experienced them both. Hope it helps.
I didn't mean "ingenuity". That's my fault. They are trying new things. The problem with doing that, is as soon as they make a niche in the market (think OG EVO), they change the concept...
I like that they are trying to be the first to do this or that, but they don't need to change every aspect of there device design with each new device... I mean, really?
I think most will agree with me on this, take the stereo sound out and fill that space with LI-PO... I would much rather the device last a little longer, than hear my phone ring 2 houses away.
And everybody claims that the screen is the number one thing about a smartphone, bullcrap. Software is, and if you can develop easier on one device than you can another, developers are probably gonna swing toward that device...
HTC needs to realise that "flagship" phones, with all their tech and wonder, are going to sell to the dev community (aside from the ONE uppers (pun intended)). But all they do is drive a wedge with there ridiculous locks and late source code releases.
Apple made it to where it is today because simplicity, people want simple devices (including devs). They are still at the top (albeit, as a fashion statement, rather than a phone now that Steve Jobs can influence the tech)... Numbers don't lie, they are the only constant in this universe, the only truly universal language.
Open-source is a brilliant idea, but when we can't use it on a device, it's basically a hard to use iPhone (locked-down), and nobody wants a device that they can neither work easily, nor change it to make it better... Which is the reason Samsung sells more devices, and has a HUGE dev following. The same reason they don't bother with a new fully aluminum chassis, because it sold before, it will again. If it is not broke, don't try to fix it.
I have my opinion, others have their opinions, I don't mind them, I just voice mine.
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And everybody claims that the screen is the number one thing about a smartphone, bullcrap. Software is, and if you can develop easier on one phone that you can another, developers are probably gonna swing toward that phone...
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Developers make apps for every phone. Android = Android. You can tout software features from the brands all you want, but most people here on XDA use their own launcher and their own apps for any phone. Software is the number one thing, but all Android 4.1 and above devices are all running the exact same software in my book.
Don't get me wrong, I want to play with BlinkFeed and all, but at the end of the day I will probably go back to Zeam launcher, exDialer, GoogleVoice for texting, and the official FaceBook app... the exact same software I would use on any Android phone old or new.
EDIT: PreHome for task-switcher, MX Player for video, etc, etc, etc. The one thing I haven't found a good 3rd-party solution for is the camera app, so for that, I am excited to try this new Zoe thing (I thought of that idea 5 years ago... why take pictures when you can take 2-sec video and then make the best picture from it later).
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Developers make apps for every phone. Android = Android. You can tout software features from the brands all you want, but most people here on XDA use their own launcher and their own apps for any phone. Software is the number one thing, but all Android 4.1 and above devices are all running the exact same software in my book.
Don't get me wrong, I want to play with BlinkFeed and all, but at the end of the day I will probably go back to Zeam launcher, exDialer, GoogleVoice for texting, and the official FaceBook app... the exact same software I would use on any Android phone old or new.
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I agree with that, I'm a sense man myself. Thank you for your opinion.
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Ok so the Vibrant is not that old but seems like its forgotten already. Well the whole Galaxy S series! Bs since its only like 4 months old. Makes me mad that android devices get left behind so fast just to be replaced so quick. Not everyone can buy a new android device every week. I love my Vibrant but this crap makes me mad! Come on SLOW down with android devices already. Just my 2 cents! And no im not a fan boy. Just wanted to get this off my mind. Thanks a million!
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you don't know much about the field and business of technology do you?
The second you buy any electronic device, it is obsolete before you even walk out of the store with it. It's something you have to accept if you make any electronics purchases.
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Well as long as Samsung support the current Galaxy S line with updates I will be happy, if they don't, I know I won't be buying a Samsung phone again.
Even though they keep coming out with new phones doesn't mean yours isn't good. Root that baby, flash a rom and fall in love with your phone all over again.
Yea I Know how electronics are.just think its stupid.but love my vibrant. Already rooted.just need offical froyo 2.2 and and I will be happy!
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Yea I Know how electronics are.just think its stupid.but love my vibrant. Already rooted.just need offical froyo 2.2 and and I will be happy!
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Dont wait... Just go to akaskriller.com he already have the real one thanx to eugene
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cant wait for dual core smartphones with dedicated gpu.
4.5" screen
5+mp camera w/ flash and dedicated camera button
actual hard buttons
and of course ANDROID
And of course with the same 13-1500mAh batteries these has, so we'll have like 5000 threads about terrible battery life, etc.
Personally, I don't think there is anything great about the Vibrant outside of the screen. That was Samsung's main selling point. The GPU is good, but there are now apps popping up left and right that are claiming "No Support for Samsung Galaxy S."
Yahoo Messenger for Android now has no Support for Galaxy S, Lol.
Not going to bother buying another Samsung phone anyways, but certainly not going to buy another phone with internals outside of the mainstream.
I personally view them going in another direction IRT hardware has a massive failure. That's like buying a Windows Computer with an AMD Processor, and Microsoft telling you Live Messenger isn't supported on you computer because you got AMD instead of Intel, or Microsoft Office won't run on your computer because you're running Windows Vista instead of 7, or WoW won't run on your computer because you got an ATI instead of an NVidia. Massive failure, IMO.
Apps > Hardware.
Then there's the issue of a bunch of apps simply being incompatible due to the phone only having Android 2.1...
If you expect a Nexus S or whatever to change that, then I dunno what to say. 90% of high end smartphones run Snapdragons and most don't run TouchWiz, so developers will continue to target architectures which are the majority - as they should, cause targetting Samsung's phone and ending up with apps that crash and burn on all those other phones would be utterly retarded.
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Well as long as Samsung support the current Galaxy S line with updates I will be happy, if they don't, I know I won't be buying a Samsung phone again.
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yeah, this
only to add: i will actively tell every person i know to avoid samsung like the plague
ball's in your court samsung!
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cant wait for dual core smartphones with dedicated gpu.
4.5" screen
5+mp camera w/ flash and dedicated camera button
actual hard buttons
and of course ANDROID
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in a few weeks new Galaxy S/Nexus S coming to Tmobile. maybe it will be dual and 99.9% it will have flash. and the best thing, no more waiting for updates, and it will already come with Android 2.3
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Dont wait... Just go to akaskriller.com he already have the real one thanx to eugene
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Got in the site... i figured it out and didn't have to watch that whole video lol
Please tell me your not mad that technology is advancing. Really? Is it such a bad thing? Nobody is forcing you to go out and buy the newest, fastest and greatest device. Personally I think while the vibrant may lack in 2.2 and some other things like flash and a 4.3" screen or HSPA+ it more than makes up for in MONSTER graphics computing, overall speed, a beautiful 4" SAMOLED screen and a camera that takes pretty amazing pics. I did expect better support from samsung considering the phone is across all carriers However I did buy the phone as is so I cant complain too much. it still holds its own against any other device out right now. Plus... The Nexus 2 will basically be a Galaxy S so we should see easy porting to our devices once gingerbread is released and android 3.0.
Hopefully we'll see some advanced implimentation of battery technology to make these handsets last a while with usage. Cause I don't want to see another ZOMG! I got 47 hours of battery.... with everything off.
Don't blame me, blame my keyboard's autocorrection algorithm.
Thing about it is, I thought about this too.. What is out that your phone can't do? It can run all the latest apps, and will even be able to support gingerbread. You could have a 5ghz phone, but what good will it do? The 1/4 second that it would be quicker would not be noticeable.
Galaxy S. Maybe the next version will include the P, so it will have a GPS~
Slow down??? Hell no! Speed up with new devices already. And the Vibrant is just fine. I use it, it has an awesome screen, and new updates get uploaded on XDA almost on a daily basis. And I love watching new phones appear. It just means that by the time I get around to another upgrade in about 14 months, the phones at that time will be that much better. So keep innovating, companies, and improving and releasing new phones.
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Ok so the Vibrant is not that old but seems like its forgotten already. Well the whole Galaxy S series! Bs since its only like 4 months old. Makes me mad that android devices get left behind so fast just to be replaced so quick. Not everyone can buy a new android device every week. I love my Vibrant but this crap makes me mad! Come on SLOW down with android devices already. Just my 2 cents! And no im not a fan boy. Just wanted to get this off my mind. Thanks a million!
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Has anyone noticed the multitude of G2 ads everywhere? Seems like HTC is really pushing the advertising with that phone...i dont understand because i have messed with the phone and i dont think its really that good. any agree?
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Please tell me your not mad that technology is advancing. Really? Is it such a bad thing? Nobody is forcing you to go out and buy the newest, fastest and greatest device. Personally I think while the vibrant may lack in 2.2 and some other things like flash and a 4.3" screen or HSPA+ it more than makes up for in MONSTER graphics computing, overall speed, a beautiful 4" SAMOLED screen and a camera that takes pretty amazing pics. I did expect better support from samsung considering the phone is across all carriers However I did buy the phone as is so I cant complain too much. it still holds its own against any other device out right now. Plus... The Nexus 2 will basically be a Galaxy S so we should see easy porting to our devices once gingerbread is released and android 3.0.
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What exactly are you talking about. No one is complaining about technology advancing. People are complaining mostly (and mostly indirectly) about the rate at which hardware/devices are deprecated and forgotten about.
Lots of people come from a long background in using computers, so they are not used to seeing a 1 year old device become "unsupported" for the most part.
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Hopefully we'll see some advanced implimentation of battery technology to make these handsets last a while with usage. Cause I don't want to see another ZOMG! I got 47 hours of battery.... with everything off.
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Yes, those threads piss me off so much I don't even open battery threads anymore unless it's one I posted in and there's a chance a reply may be directed at me.
Most people with great battery life hardly use the phone. I get 20 hours easy when it sits there in Standby for 18.5 of those hours. Once I start using the phone, the battery is crap. I actually had to uninstall some very useful applications so the battery wouldn't commit suicide.
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Has anyone noticed the multitude of G2 ads everywhere? Seems like HTC is really pushing the advertising with that phone...i dont understand because i have messed with the phone and i dont think its really that good. any agree?
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Yep. Actually noticed the G2 add play 3x tonight. The hinge is crap, but at least the phone works as expected.
A phone doesn't have to be "really that good" to be worth the investment. In many cases, like the Vibrant, when the phone is supposed to be "really that good" it just turns out to be a failed result of overreaching.
I got this phone because it had a lot of storage in it, and it's not like T-Mobile had that many choices when it came to high end smartphones when the Vibrant was released. Some people replying to posts act like the G2, MyTouch4G, HD7, etc. were being sold in stores in July/August.
There was the HD2, and the Vibrant. That's it. The rest of T-Mobile's phones were utter crap.
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yeah, this
only to add: i will actively tell every person i know to avoid samsung like the plague
ball's in your court samsung!
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This right here. What should have been a wonderful experience has been badly sullied by non-existent support.
Buying a phone on a 2 year contract and finding out that the phone isn't even properly supported for 4 months should be enough to piss anyone off.
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news...r-google-nexus-4g-may-win-carriers-hearts.ars
Not sure what to think about this. Seems quick?
no?
NS was released late last year
N1 was released early last year
it was bound to happen.. but at least NS will be the second next phone to get ICS
Nexus One was released in January 2010, Nexus S was released in December 2010, so this seems in line with Nexus release dates, Holiday Season every year.
Says no front "buttons". I wonder how the software buttons is going to work.
Whose making it??
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Whose making it??
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Read a rumor that LG might make it, because they have experience with that form factor. I guess any company could adopt to it easily though.
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NS was released late last year
N1 was released early last year
it was bound to happen.. but at least NS will be the second next phone to get ICS
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Guess you're right. Time flies. lol
I hope Samsung is making it again. I know people dislike them but I love their hardware.
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Guess you're right. Time flies. lol
I hope Samsung is making it again. I know people dislike them but I love their hardware.
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+1 they produce the best screens. I honestly don't know whats up with the hate with Samsung.
Who else is there?
LG: lol, we give stock and dont provide gingerbread updates (been almost a whole month). "stock" on carriers aren't really stock. 3rd choice.
Motorola: motoblur + bloat + locked bootloader
HTC: this is my second choice next to Samsung. even though they have said they're commited to not lock the bootloader anymore. i find it shady that they would even plan on locking the bootloader in the first place.
SE: not really producing any highend phones
Samsung: doesn't lock bootloader, easy to root etc. great hardware
my only complaint with Samsung are the plastic back covers, but I can deal with it after putting a case on.
people probably hate it because of TouchWiz. but if you don't use TouchWiz launcher (which many of us dont since we use ADW / LP) it's a great skin. it offers many features that are pretty nice.
The plastic battery cover angers me. It always creaks can't they make 2 version's. They can do it look at captivate now my screen creaks if I press the top part of screen it moves fml if they wanna compete with iPhone they need to step this up I really don't like HTC IMO there phones are garbage but damn least they put metal
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Hopefully HTC. Great build, software and hardware. Never had issues with them, now Samsung on the other hand.... The enjoy good thing about them is the screens .
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Hopefully not HTC. They already made the nexus 1. So maybe its time for another company to take the helm on this.
Why doesn't Google just make it themselves?
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Hopefully not HTC. They already made the nexus 1. So maybe its time for another company to take the helm on this.
Why doesn't Google just make it themselves?
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Because Google simply provides the software. Not the hardware. If they go towards the direction of making the phone.. well, that doesn't fit their profile. They would be purchasing things from Samsung Electronics anyway and the profit stream would be way less.
And it doesn't matter if the company has already done the Nexus phone. Everything isn't built off the idea that it's fair.
Oh hey guys, Samsung & HTC already did the Nexus phones. Let's give Huawei a chance to make the next nexus phone!
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I honestly don't know whats up with the hate with Samsung. Who else is there? LG: lol
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FWIW, my ranking would be:
HTC: decent hardware that works. I can't abide Sense nor their tendency to lock down stuff, but on a Nexus that wouldn't matter. The safe choice.
LG: their Android phones are actually really nice, even if the product lineup is a bit strange. Specced by Google, built by LG? Oh yes, please.
Huawei (or some other less well-known brand): A Nexus could give the brand a boost, thus boosting competition in the long run.
Samsung: They always manage to have great spec sheets, but also there's always something that doesn't work right or at all. See GPS on the SGS1, sound on the SGS2, GPS on the Nexus S and compass/accelerometer on basically any Samsung-built Android phone. Also they have obvious quality control issues.
S-E: Well, why not? I don't think they'd even be interested, though, control freaks that they are.
Motorola: No, thank you.
No not LG. I have owned a couple of LG phones and never ever have i been satisfied. I just dont associate LG with anything good.
I hope not LG. The G2x has been a disaster to say the least, returns like crazy on them. Everyone I know that had one has returned it..
HTC, makes IMO the best quality phones. The sensation is awesome with solid hardware! They know what their doing
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I hope not LG. The G2x has been a disaster to say the least, returns like crazy on them. Everyone I know that had one has returned it..
HTC, makes IMO the best quality phones. The sensation is awesome with solid hardware! They know what their doing
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Clearly not since they thought locking the bootloader was a great idea. Sure they listened to the community, nevertheless it was shady. At this time, bootloaders are still locked.
Not to mention, sense cripples android speed.ill stick to stock.
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Clearly not since they thought locking the bootloader was a great idea. Sure they listened to the community, nevertheless it was shady. At this time, bootloaders are still locked.
Not to mention, sense cripples android speed.ill stick to stock.
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If HTC (or any OEM for that matter) made the next Nexus phone Google would required them to make them hackable, since it will likely be a dev phone. So you don't need to worry about signed bootloaders if HTC makes the next Nexus.
Also, there are never custom skins (such as Sense) on Nexus phones. The Nexus phones are designed to be hardware benchmarks for stock Android software.
Personally, I think HTC would be a great hardware manufacturer for the next Nexus device. I miss the solid build quality of my Nexus One. That being said, Samsung's AMOLED screen on the NS is outstanding.
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If HTC (or any OEM for that matter) made the next Nexus phone Google would required them to make them hackable, since it will likely be a dev phone. So you don't need to worry about signed bootloaders if HTC makes the next Nexus.
Also, there are never custom skins (such as Sense) on Nexus phones. The Nexus phones are designed to be hardware benchmarks for stock Android software.
Personally, I think HTC would be a great hardware manufacturer for the next Nexus device. I miss the solid build quality of my Nexus One. That being said, Samsung's AMOLED screen on the NS is outstanding.
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No, not HTC again. My Nexus One already suffered from the dust issues and dead power button that I decided to just sell it after getting a replacement. HTC may make solid feeling builds but their phones almost always have build quality issues (the Sensation already has a dust issue).
If Samsung doesn't make it I will really miss the samoled screen. Unless LG decides to throw a retina busting display on it. makes you wonder what they mean by monster display, could just mean a 4.5 inch screen or a resolution that is unmatched. After all they are the ones that make the retina display.
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If HTC (or any OEM for that matter) made the next Nexus phone Google would required them to make them hackable, since it will likely be a dev phone. So you don't need to worry about signed bootloaders if HTC makes the next Nexus.
Also, there are never custom skins (such as Sense) on Nexus phones. The Nexus phones are designed to be hardware benchmarks for stock Android software.
Personally, I think HTC would be a great hardware manufacturer for the next Nexus device. I miss the solid build quality of my Nexus One. That being said, Samsung's AMOLED screen on the NS is outstanding.
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I'm not worried about "signed bootloaders." HTC has already commited themselves to unlocking the bootloaders on future phones and current phones that feature them. I've been on Android since the G1, so I'm aware of all this.
Again.. skins, I'm aware of this. I was speaking in general because there has been forum threads around the NS forum where people are headed towards "normal" phones such as Galaxy S2 & Sensation.
The build quality of Samsung phones are just as fine. The only complaint is the plastic backing. Other than that, its build is extraordinary. I personally just want Samsung to make it because the displays they offer are exclusive to their company and its just breathtaking. It would also feature Super AMOLED Plus or even their upcoming display thats even better than SAMOLED+. But I doubt it'd be in the Nexus 3 unless it can be ready by then,
http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/11/samsung-to-finally-roll-out-flexible-amoled-displays-for-public/
Hey folks
I've noticed myself being pulled in more and more by getting an iPhone. Having previously owned a Touch Diamond (WinMo), Xperia X10 and mini then a GS1 and finally this phone, I've owned throughout all this change an iPod touch and also an iPad for the best part.
What I've found is the Apple products seem more... complete. The user experience is significantly more seemless.
Please don't turn this into an "I hate apple so keep the Gs2" thread cause truthfully I hate Apple as a company but what they produce is actually very good.
So, having rooted the phone and flashing custom ROMs, can someone advise tthings I could do to this thing to make it a bit more user friendly? I've had MIUI on it and when it works 100% ill have it on but until then, to prevent me sswapping this for an i4 can you guys advise on mods etc that might make the gs2 experience a bit better?
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why should we bother? Get an iPhone. see who cares.
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I had IPhone for 3 years. Great device. No way could I leave this for it again.
If iPhone5 is 4'3" screen, 1.5 dual core processor, accelerated browser, as easy to jailbreak as this is to root, I'd consider it.
I kind of have to agree with the above poster. Why should we convince you? You are supposed to know what you like and want, not the other way around.
Problem
I really think this should not be a problem
Okay, well scrap this post. Sorry for trying to ask a question that, regardless of what anyone says, a lot of people wanted to ask. Cheers.
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A lot of people want to ask how to make SGS2 Ui more user friendly? I consider it to be one of the most user friendly user interfaces there are. The only one even more user friendly is HTC Sense UI.
It uses the same type of movement as the Iphone does, holding a button a few seconds etc. I love it.
I find the Iphone to be annoying and to closed for it to be comfortable, unless you jailbreak it. Which has been getting harder and harder to do lately. The Iphone 5 is coming soon and there is a large change it will take several weeks before even a small jailbreak is available for that one.
As far as I am aware, the Iphone also lacks Customization, like flashing new firmware or roms etc.
But in the end its just a matter of personal preference and nothing we say can change that. You are the one that needs to feel happy with a phone, if you are not happy with SGS2, then switch to what phone you think will make you happy.
Above post was what I was looking for. Thanks bud
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If I was going to move to the iPhone I'd wait till the iPhone 5 came out.
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Hey folks
I've noticed myself being pulled in more and more by getting an iPhone. Having previously owned a Touch Diamond (WinMo), Xperia X10 and mini then a GS1 and finally this phone, I've owned throughout all this change an iPod touch and also an iPad for the best part.
What I've found is the Apple products seem more... complete. The user experience is significantly more seemless.
Please don't turn this into an "I hate apple so keep the Gs2" thread cause truthfully I hate Apple as a company but what they produce is actually very good.
So, having rooted the phone and flashing custom ROMs, can someone advise tthings I could do to this thing to make it a bit more user friendly? I've had MIUI on it and when it works 100% ill have it on but until then, to prevent me sswapping this for an i4 can you guys advise on mods etc that might make the gs2 experience a bit better?
Regards
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I dont know why you would need convincing from anyone else to keep something that does not meet your expectations or your needs, if you can return the S2 then do so now and get the Iphone and be happy there, its not about what phone you have its about how you area able to use it at its full potential w/o relying on anything else.
I would be happy to give your S2 the loving home it deserves...
yetep said:
Hey folks
I've noticed myself being pulled in more and more by getting an iPhone. Having previously owned a Touch Diamond (WinMo), Xperia X10 and mini then a GS1 and finally this phone, I've owned throughout all this change an iPod touch and also an iPad for the best part.
What I've found is the Apple products seem more... complete. The user experience is significantly more seemless.
Please don't turn this into an "I hate apple so keep the Gs2" thread cause truthfully I hate Apple as a company but what they produce is actually very good.
So, having rooted the phone and flashing custom ROMs, can someone advise tthings I could do to this thing to make it a bit more user friendly? I've had MIUI on it and when it works 100% ill have it on but until then, to prevent me sswapping this for an i4 can you guys advise on mods etc that might make the gs2 experience a bit better?
Regards
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Here is my way to convince you, if you can find a way to Jailbreak iPhone5 with out Comex help or any other 3rd Party help. Just do it yourself than Leeching off Comex. Yea I will say go for it.
If NOT, drop your SGS2 in to the Atlantic Ocean depth to the Abyss, that you can never get it again. Now you got a choice to get iPhone5. Selling it off eBay or Craigslist DO NOT COUNT!!
Or just Love your current SGS2 to the best you can, and ditch the Steve Job Ghetto iPhone5 good bye. Since Ghetto Steve Job left the floor...maybe due to health or something personal who know, Human Made NEWs are all Entertainment to people ears and eyes!!
Indeed, With Comex gone jailbreaking the Iphone 5 (you know they hired him to prevent the jailbreaks on upcoming versions) is going to be a lot harder. In such a case samsungs open approach is much and much better. Thats why i love Android
I had a 3g and a Iphone 4. Never been happier than I am right now with sgs2. I like to tinker with phone and change roms every day. Can't do that with Iphone. Love the screen on this phone, love the speed, very easy to work with. Sgs2 is the best phone on the planet right now in my opinion.
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Seriously??? who cares?? get what you want and then use it. then i figure useless threads like this will die off.
If you mind not having a microSD Slot, great features, flexibility, if you prefer to only scroll icons on a single estate, if you don't like super amoled, you move to iphone
BTW, what the heck do you bring such stupid questions to such a forum. You should know what you want, then seek solutions to what you have in the respective. Forums
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Iphone screen is just too small now its irrelevant. Anything less than 4" screen is so 2010.
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I think you should write down all you can think about the pros and cons of both phones, and weigh what is most important to you. That will put your mind to peace once and for all. For me, the much lighter weight, far less radiation and greater flexibility (e.g. drag & drop rather than itunes) far outweigh any other smartphones.
I don't get the smooth and seamless aspect that I keep hearing about though. I've tried the ipad and have an ipod nano...the devices have limited features and are underwhelming. Perhaps you've read about many "issues" with the SGSII and the need for tweaks to make it perform more smoothly. I do suspect users of android phones--who have done the necessary research--are probably perfectionists in the first place, who scrutinise everything that they own and enjoy the ability to customise the phone to their needs.
Again, above poster. Thank you
Gonna keep hold of it for now, spend ssome time at work tonight figuring out some tweeks etc and go from there.
Those that have been extremely unhelpful, why don't you just not reply?
Anyways, can a mod please lock this thread? Don't see the need for further flaming. Again, the helpful ones, thank you.
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Get an iphone and be a slave of sysstem.
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Hi there,
Does anyone know if there is a smartphone planned like the Desire Z?
For me the keyboard is the most important feature of my smartphone.
I recall a thread in which an xda user had sent an e-mail to HTC about this and they mentioned about it being discussed over at HTC Headquarters. They will probably release another phone but I wouldn't expect to make much out of it. The new line of HTC phones will probably be harder to unlock (if it's even possible, that is), and I wouldn't expect a userbase as large as this phones'. It seems like the Physcical keyboard are becoming deprecated...
However, if you don't exactly mind the above I'd say this phone will last you long enough till another HTC Device with a H/W Keyboard is released.
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The new line of HTC phones will probably be harder to unlock (if it's even possible, that is)
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The One X has already been rooted, before its even released. Although you have to unlock the bootloader via HTC Unlock first (and therefore void your warranty);.
Not exactly your ideal tradeoff, especially for a phone like the One X...
So, it's still hard to unlock whilst preserving your warranty.
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Not exactly your ideal tradeoff, especially for a phone like the One X...
So, it's still hard to unlock whilst preserving your warranty.
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The phone isn't even released yet! So it remains to be seen how hard it will be.
Talk about impatient! . . .
I am in despair about any new keyboard phones coming
I am considering, that if my Desire Z stops working, getting a large-screen dual or quad-core phone. Something like the Galaxy Note. Perhaps the on-screen keyboard will work better for me on a large-screen phone.
I am also worried about the trend towards having no SD cards or removable batteries.
I wouldlike to see that too. The problem is, i cant mind the design of such a phone. New generation Smartphone are thin and stylie. The DZ ist in fact a bit too fat for that. Then if we got the whole thing thinner, we have a lack of hardwarepower, that leads us to lower cpu and ram.
I dunno what u think but i can type much faster and more precisely on HWK than on display. Its more silent too. The vibrating Feedback on screen is way louder than that little "click" on HWK, and can make people standing around u thinking "wtf is he raping his phone?".
There are some improvements in my mind too. For example: instead of the "never-used-shortcut-buttons" (at least i never did) there should be "left" and "right". Than u can choose the right displayed word (when typing long words) and hit enter. Makes u saving even more time.
I would buy the next HWK-HTC Sense Phone, definitly!
I am waiting for the next one as well... And yeah, this phone can really last long until maybe HTC releases a new HWK phone... I'm hoping sometime this year... If not, I might jump over to another manufacturer...
Also, I don't think they need to sacrifice power for phones with HWK, since most of us don't mind fat phones like the DZ. I'd rather want to see the next HWK from HTC in the mid to high end hardware-wise. I'd be happy if we get card slot and removable battery. I'm also getting worried about the trend of having no removeable battery. I might be able to tollerate no card slot, but I'd be worried if my phone has no removeable battery.
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burtcom said:
I am in despair about any new keyboard phones coming
I am considering, that if my Desire Z stops working, getting a large-screen dual or quad-core phone. Something like the Galaxy Note. Perhaps the on-screen keyboard will work better for me on a large-screen phone.
I am also worried about the trend towards having no SD cards or removable batteries.
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I have a GT 7.7 and the experience of typing onscreen is nowhere near the experience of the HWK. I was considering using the tab as my mobile office, however, I will stick to my DZ for that and use the Tab for entertainment and reading.
I dream of a 4" screen quadcore HTC with HWK and card slot. The nonremovable battery wouldn't bother me much.
Also, I don't consider the DZ a thick phone. If you compare it with other smartphone it is thicker, but I find it very balanced.
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hey OP there are a few different options. I actually am in the same quandry and thus am looking possibly at returning to an android keyboard phone..
Options:
-Droid 4
-Motorola Admiral
-HTC MyTouch Slide 4G
-SE Xperia Pro
check out my thread for more info: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1552248
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The phone isn't even released yet! So it remains to be seen how hard it will be.
Talk about impatient! . . .
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Just interested to see how things are going to fold out, as I'm considering an upgrade by the start of the next year. I had read a post at some site noting something about htc locking down it's bootloaders thus making it next to impossible to get s-off, et cetera. Hope that's not the case, else there's not much room for upgrade...
Sent from my DZ.
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I had read a post at some site noting something about htc locking down it's bootloaders thus making it next to impossible to get s-off, et cetera. Hope that's not the case, else there's not much room for upgrade...
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Unlocking the bootloader via HTC Unlock lets you load custom ROMs, you just need to do it through fastboot, since its not true S-Off.
And yes, HTC Unlock voids your warranty. But HTC's claim is that lots of noobs are messing up their phones when trying to mod them, and trying to claim them as warranty repairs. If the problem is really as bad as HTC claims, it seems like a fair tradeoff. Based on the noobs coming here asking for a "one-click root" and too lazy to use the Wiki method, I'm inclined to believe HTC's claim. Too many people getting into rooting and modding, and too lazy to really learn and understand what they are doing.
True that. Some people here always expect things to just happen.
And I'd also have to agree with HTC, whether I like it or not. But I think that the way they address this issue is too extreme. Voiding the entire warranty is not the way to do it. What they should instead do is "modify" the conditions. Although I guess it's more beneficial in terms of money to go with the former option.
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And I'd also have to agree with HTC, whether I like it or not. But I think that the way they address this issue is too extreme. Voiding the entire warranty is not the way to do it. What they should instead do is "modify" the conditions. Although I guess it's more beneficial in terms of money to go with the former option.
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That's true. Unlocking the bootloader shouldn't void the warranty in the case of hardware failures.
sebastian_henze said:
Hi there,
Does anyone know if there is a smartphone planned like the Desire Z?
For me the keyboard is the most important feature of my smartphone.
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Same here tried the Sensation XL and the big screen made the onscreen keyboard a little easier, however came back to the DZ for the keypad. Also didn't realise how much I used the trackpad until I didn't have one. So eagerly awaiting the G3
Are you guys just speculating about a g3 or are there some rumors out there??
The more I continue my quest the more the mtouch 4g slide looks like a rocking phone with a solid keyboard and great specs.. What sayeth you all?!?
What i don't understand is why the sony xperia pro seems to be such an unknown phone. I remember it got really good reviews, so i don't know why it isn't really mentioned much at all.
magic_android said:
What i don't understand is why the sony xperia pro seems to be such an unknown phone. I remember it got really good reviews, so i don't know why it isn't really mentioned much at all.
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It wasnt advertised much by sony. If it had a community as good as ours id have got it
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austriker27 said:
Are you guys just speculating about a g3 or are there some rumors out there??
The more I continue my quest the more the mtouch 4g slide looks like a rocking phone with a solid keyboard and great specs.. What sayeth you all?!?
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Just speculating and wishful thinking... Looked at the Sony Experian Pro and looked very good, but agree with the previous comments about the community support.
austriker27 said:
Are you guys just speculating about a g3 or are there some rumors out there??
The more I continue my quest the more the mtouch 4g slide looks like a rocking phone with a solid keyboard and great specs.. What sayeth you all?!?
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The MT4GS is a solid phone with a community that is growing steadily. Get it if you can
HTC are now moving away from the traditional way of releasing their phones to having a single phone for each tier as is with the HTC One series of phones, so probability for a G3 is even slimmer now.
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You know how Samsung say they're inspired by nature? One thing's rather peculiar. I don't recall nature being bloated, ugly and sluggish. Or maybe they specifically mean stink bugs, ticks, weeds, etc.. Rather peculiar, don't you think?
'Tis a funny world we live in.
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You know how Samsung say they're inspired by nature? One thing's rather peculiar. I don't recall nature being bloated, ugly and sluggish. Or maybe they specifically mean stink bugs, ticks, weeds, etc.. Rather peculiar, don't you think?
'Tis a funny world we live in.
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Inspired by what comes out of a cows ar*e I think... ill never buy a samsung again I know that much
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This is the first and the last samsung phone, from now on i'm going with nexus.
My first Samsung phone, OEM wise. I had a Gnex before. This is, however, my very last Samsung device. EVER. I will never buy another Faildung device again. Deciding which phone will be my bext is hard, though, because I'm considering either the Xperia Z, HTC One or the next Nexus. Maybe not the HTC after all because I don't feel like messing with locked down bootloaders (unless they're nexii because it's a simple fastboot command to lock/unlock at your will)
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My first Samsung phone, OEM wise. I had a Gnex before. This is, however, my very last Samsung device. EVER. I will never buy another Faildung device again. Deciding which phone will be my bext is hard, though, because I'm considering either the Xperia Z, HTC One or the next Nexus. Maybe not the HTC after all because I don't feel like messing with locked down bootloaders (unless they're nexii because it's a simple fastboot command to lock/unlock at your will)
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Yeah htc's are a bit*h man a mate of mine has a xperia z its a very very nice phone in my opinion
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Theshawty said:
........ Rather peculiar, don't you think?
'Tis a funny world we live in.
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Questions belong in Q&A
Theshawty said:
My first Samsung phone, OEM wise. I had a Gnex before. This is, however, my very last Samsung device. EVER. I will never buy another Faildung device again. Deciding which phone will be my bext is hard, though, because I'm considering either the Xperia Z, HTC One or the next Nexus. Maybe not the HTC after all because I don't feel like messing with locked down bootloaders (unless they're nexii because it's a simple fastboot command to lock/unlock at your will)
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Don't forget this site if you want an xperia z
http://unlockbootloader.sonymobile.com/
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i agree to you guys..
samsung is crap. will never buy samsung again, NEVER.
you will only have problems with samsung, like the SDS.
Go with Iphone (no im not iphone fan or something, never owned one but friends got.)or with Nexus.
Software > Hardware
saprer said:
i agree to you guys..
samsung is crap. will never buy samsung again, NEVER.
you will only have problems with samsung, like the SDS.
Go with Iphone (no im not iphone fan or something, never owned one but friends got.)or with Nexus.
Software > Hardware
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"Software > Hardware"
Clearly not the case with iPhones, ^^
Inspired by nature, yeah right.
Two words: dog poo.
Its natural
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The Inspired by Nature thing was a huge marketing fail in my view.
Where is Glebun.. Waiting for him.. Shawty beware...
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zoot1 said:
Where is Glebun.. Waiting for him.. Shawty beware...
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Haha got the jaws theme tune in my head now
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I'm quite happy with my samsung. Had the S II before this S III and I guess I like the multitude of roms available. Sure, Samsung needs to get their Exynos sources out in the wild but even without them AOSP, Cyanogenmod and AOKP aren't that bad. Used those type of Roms for a while and never thought I would flash a Samsung based rom again... Until a few weeks ago. You could say there's alot of bloatware in the stock rom and you're absolutely right. On the other hand, some bloat is really "useful". For me personally I really like showing photos and videos directly on my TV without having to open a third party DLNA app. I like how easy it is to root and unroot everything back to stock. I like my external SD card, removable battery. I like how their phones feel in my hand. My girlfriend has an Xperia S and although I kinda like the design, it just doesn't feel right in the hand nor are the menu and back button easy to touch. I think the S4 with a Snapdragon or Exynos with sources will be the perfect phone. Gonna hold on to my S III for the time being or till I have one of my impulsive buying sprees.
Personally, I don't really "get" the Nature bit. Bit of a Marketing thing, differentiation and all that USP stuff.
I'm actually quite happy with the S3. I've a later one, mind. I've never had any funny reboots whatever firmware I used, never had any marks or cracks and the battery life on a Stock or Stock based ROM is rather good.
My primary likes are:
Good sound, great FM radio (I use this a lot due to a serious walking regime - I'm probably of a similar age to one of you other guys). The call quality and general signal sensitivity (GPS/FM/Cell/WiFi/BT) are really good. The notification LED is a real boon too - not having to wake the phone to see missed activity or see something come in during a meeting is fantastic.
The screen is truly oleophobic AND scratch-resistant - I hate screen protectors - they're hard to fit properly and look sh1t quickly.
They hold their value well if looked after cosmetically.
In a word then it is reliable - and eminently modifiable.
The things I dislike are:
The screen is just not bright enough outside even without direct sunlight. Hopelessly dim. This is the biggy for me - walking whilst outside and trying to read anything is just a joke.
The Samsung software is cobbled together, and feels so. Fortunately I remove most of it, but the core is still there... and their non-open source approach and lack of engagement with their development community is a "shame".
A soft gel case is a necessity or you will drop it. I never have. Touch wood.
The accessories supplied are 2nd rate. Belies the cost of the phone.
Replacing the screen and digitizer as a unit (the only real way to do it) is f.expensive (I did a mate's - £150)
I would buy another Samsung, I had the SGS2 and that was good for its time too. My wife's 2 yo Omnia 7 is also reliable and she has had no issues with that either. My eldest daughter's Xperia S has started losing pixels. My youngest daughter's HTC ONE S is totally stock and has randomly rebooted from new for no obvious reason. And this is the 4th Amazon BNIB replacement. It looks like crap too after a few weeks as the black finish is brittle.
Problem is, what else is there?
S4 - unknown quantity (might not have an FM Radio, might be Snapdragon or not), £600 and being an early adopter means beta tester.
HTC ONE - even if you can get hold of one, too early to tell if they are reliable or durable and the modding potential is not great.
Nexus 4 - No FM radio and LG not the world's best phone designer
Sony Z - good but odd in the hand and screen dim - massive development potential though thanks to Sony.
LG Optimus G - not readily available, too expensive, no FM radio and no development community and Billy Bland.
Note 2 - get real. S3 on acid with a silly stick, has its own identity crisis.
I would like the OPPO Find 5 - but not available and may not have an FM Radio or LED notification. Or development potential. I have an OPPO Blu-Ray player that is utterly fantastic. For those that remember, like a Nakamichi tape deck style quality.
zoot1 said:
Where is Glebun.. Waiting for him.. Shawty beware...
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right here! Where was I? Right.. This kind of stuff should be in the General thread, that's what it's for
Glebun said:
right here! Where was I? Right.. This kind of stuff should be in the General thread, that's what it's for
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Well! You won't get an argument from me..
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Glebun said:
right here! Where was I? Right.. This kind of stuff should be in the General thread, that's what it's for
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Better late than never
Glebun said:
right here! Where was I? Right.. This kind of stuff should be in the General thread, that's what it's for
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With the current discussions going on in the general thread (eels, lube, etc.) I don't think many dare entering, or even stay after they've entered so I thought I'd liven the place up a bit.
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Better late than never
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Your location reminds me of my favorite Orbital song!