http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news...r-google-nexus-4g-may-win-carriers-hearts.ars
Not sure what to think about this. Seems quick?
no?
NS was released late last year
N1 was released early last year
it was bound to happen.. but at least NS will be the second next phone to get ICS
Nexus One was released in January 2010, Nexus S was released in December 2010, so this seems in line with Nexus release dates, Holiday Season every year.
Says no front "buttons". I wonder how the software buttons is going to work.
Whose making it??
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Whose making it??
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Read a rumor that LG might make it, because they have experience with that form factor. I guess any company could adopt to it easily though.
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no?
NS was released late last year
N1 was released early last year
it was bound to happen.. but at least NS will be the second next phone to get ICS
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Guess you're right. Time flies. lol
I hope Samsung is making it again. I know people dislike them but I love their hardware.
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Guess you're right. Time flies. lol
I hope Samsung is making it again. I know people dislike them but I love their hardware.
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+1 they produce the best screens. I honestly don't know whats up with the hate with Samsung.
Who else is there?
LG: lol, we give stock and dont provide gingerbread updates (been almost a whole month). "stock" on carriers aren't really stock. 3rd choice.
Motorola: motoblur + bloat + locked bootloader
HTC: this is my second choice next to Samsung. even though they have said they're commited to not lock the bootloader anymore. i find it shady that they would even plan on locking the bootloader in the first place.
SE: not really producing any highend phones
Samsung: doesn't lock bootloader, easy to root etc. great hardware
my only complaint with Samsung are the plastic back covers, but I can deal with it after putting a case on.
people probably hate it because of TouchWiz. but if you don't use TouchWiz launcher (which many of us dont since we use ADW / LP) it's a great skin. it offers many features that are pretty nice.
The plastic battery cover angers me. It always creaks can't they make 2 version's. They can do it look at captivate now my screen creaks if I press the top part of screen it moves fml if they wanna compete with iPhone they need to step this up I really don't like HTC IMO there phones are garbage but damn least they put metal
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Hopefully HTC. Great build, software and hardware. Never had issues with them, now Samsung on the other hand.... The enjoy good thing about them is the screens .
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Hopefully not HTC. They already made the nexus 1. So maybe its time for another company to take the helm on this.
Why doesn't Google just make it themselves?
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Hopefully not HTC. They already made the nexus 1. So maybe its time for another company to take the helm on this.
Why doesn't Google just make it themselves?
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Because Google simply provides the software. Not the hardware. If they go towards the direction of making the phone.. well, that doesn't fit their profile. They would be purchasing things from Samsung Electronics anyway and the profit stream would be way less.
And it doesn't matter if the company has already done the Nexus phone. Everything isn't built off the idea that it's fair.
Oh hey guys, Samsung & HTC already did the Nexus phones. Let's give Huawei a chance to make the next nexus phone!
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I honestly don't know whats up with the hate with Samsung. Who else is there? LG: lol
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FWIW, my ranking would be:
HTC: decent hardware that works. I can't abide Sense nor their tendency to lock down stuff, but on a Nexus that wouldn't matter. The safe choice.
LG: their Android phones are actually really nice, even if the product lineup is a bit strange. Specced by Google, built by LG? Oh yes, please.
Huawei (or some other less well-known brand): A Nexus could give the brand a boost, thus boosting competition in the long run.
Samsung: They always manage to have great spec sheets, but also there's always something that doesn't work right or at all. See GPS on the SGS1, sound on the SGS2, GPS on the Nexus S and compass/accelerometer on basically any Samsung-built Android phone. Also they have obvious quality control issues.
S-E: Well, why not? I don't think they'd even be interested, though, control freaks that they are.
Motorola: No, thank you.
No not LG. I have owned a couple of LG phones and never ever have i been satisfied. I just dont associate LG with anything good.
I hope not LG. The G2x has been a disaster to say the least, returns like crazy on them. Everyone I know that had one has returned it..
HTC, makes IMO the best quality phones. The sensation is awesome with solid hardware! They know what their doing
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I hope not LG. The G2x has been a disaster to say the least, returns like crazy on them. Everyone I know that had one has returned it..
HTC, makes IMO the best quality phones. The sensation is awesome with solid hardware! They know what their doing
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Clearly not since they thought locking the bootloader was a great idea. Sure they listened to the community, nevertheless it was shady. At this time, bootloaders are still locked.
Not to mention, sense cripples android speed.ill stick to stock.
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Clearly not since they thought locking the bootloader was a great idea. Sure they listened to the community, nevertheless it was shady. At this time, bootloaders are still locked.
Not to mention, sense cripples android speed.ill stick to stock.
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If HTC (or any OEM for that matter) made the next Nexus phone Google would required them to make them hackable, since it will likely be a dev phone. So you don't need to worry about signed bootloaders if HTC makes the next Nexus.
Also, there are never custom skins (such as Sense) on Nexus phones. The Nexus phones are designed to be hardware benchmarks for stock Android software.
Personally, I think HTC would be a great hardware manufacturer for the next Nexus device. I miss the solid build quality of my Nexus One. That being said, Samsung's AMOLED screen on the NS is outstanding.
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If HTC (or any OEM for that matter) made the next Nexus phone Google would required them to make them hackable, since it will likely be a dev phone. So you don't need to worry about signed bootloaders if HTC makes the next Nexus.
Also, there are never custom skins (such as Sense) on Nexus phones. The Nexus phones are designed to be hardware benchmarks for stock Android software.
Personally, I think HTC would be a great hardware manufacturer for the next Nexus device. I miss the solid build quality of my Nexus One. That being said, Samsung's AMOLED screen on the NS is outstanding.
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No, not HTC again. My Nexus One already suffered from the dust issues and dead power button that I decided to just sell it after getting a replacement. HTC may make solid feeling builds but their phones almost always have build quality issues (the Sensation already has a dust issue).
If Samsung doesn't make it I will really miss the samoled screen. Unless LG decides to throw a retina busting display on it. makes you wonder what they mean by monster display, could just mean a 4.5 inch screen or a resolution that is unmatched. After all they are the ones that make the retina display.
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If HTC (or any OEM for that matter) made the next Nexus phone Google would required them to make them hackable, since it will likely be a dev phone. So you don't need to worry about signed bootloaders if HTC makes the next Nexus.
Also, there are never custom skins (such as Sense) on Nexus phones. The Nexus phones are designed to be hardware benchmarks for stock Android software.
Personally, I think HTC would be a great hardware manufacturer for the next Nexus device. I miss the solid build quality of my Nexus One. That being said, Samsung's AMOLED screen on the NS is outstanding.
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I'm not worried about "signed bootloaders." HTC has already commited themselves to unlocking the bootloaders on future phones and current phones that feature them. I've been on Android since the G1, so I'm aware of all this.
Again.. skins, I'm aware of this. I was speaking in general because there has been forum threads around the NS forum where people are headed towards "normal" phones such as Galaxy S2 & Sensation.
The build quality of Samsung phones are just as fine. The only complaint is the plastic backing. Other than that, its build is extraordinary. I personally just want Samsung to make it because the displays they offer are exclusive to their company and its just breathtaking. It would also feature Super AMOLED Plus or even their upcoming display thats even better than SAMOLED+. But I doubt it'd be in the Nexus 3 unless it can be ready by then,
http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/11/samsung-to-finally-roll-out-flexible-amoled-displays-for-public/
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pretty sure sammy is not favourite of most of us...
especially with all those odin this and that download mode etc...
wouldn't it be nice to have G2 to become Nexus Two for both ATT and TMO?
Htc needs to make a true nexus sequel not some nexus knockoff by samsung that looks like a shiney turd
Odin and download mode make the Galaxy S phones unbrickable. Why wouldn't you want that?
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Odin and download mode make the Galaxy S phones unbrickable. Why wouldn't you want that?
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too much hassle... been too spoiled with custom recovery for HTC phones!
only thing that can truly brick a HTC phone is when you flash radio anyway
EDIT: when you touch bootloader/ hboot too...
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Htc needs to make a true nexus sequel not some nexus knockoff by samsung that looks like a shiney turd
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absolutely
Bummer...where is HTC when we need them for a N2.
I am not really happy with speakerphone with HTC products (I have/had TP2, HD2, and nexus one) and the 3G reception is kinda weak.
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I am not really happy with speakerphone with HTC products (I have/had TP2, HD2, and nexus one) and the 3G reception is kinda weak.
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You didn't like the speakerphone on the TP2? That was amazing! The keyboard was awesome, too.
There are many things I miss about my old Tilt2. Slow processor is not one of them, though.
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who the hell can call any samsung device a NEXUS 2???????
Just isn't right. It is a crying shame. No device looks and feels like the Nexus One in your hand. It may have a few quirks but IMO it still the best device out there. I bought the G2 and ended up leaving the G2 on my desk and still use my Nexus One as my daily phone. Along with the desktop charger it is quite the package.
HTC + GOOGLE = WINNER
Give me a g1 with boosted specs. I miss that phone dearly
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I agree the Nexus S is not what I expected at all.
I'm confused... the g2 is a sense-less phone from HTC.. the only thing not making it a nexus is the name.........
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I'm confused... the g2 is a sense-less phone from HTC.. the only thing not making it a nexus is the name.........
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No, also everything the name implies. The Nexus One (and most likely the Nexus S) you can build pretty much straight off AOSP after adding the drivers that are not open source. This is not true for the G2 as far as I know. Also, for those running unrooted they won't get the same fast updates.
Another point is that some of us think the Nexus S hurts the Nexus brand.
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No, also everything the name implies. The Nexus One (and most likely the Nexus S) you can build pretty much straight off AOSP after adding the drivers that are not open source. This is not true for the G2 as far as I know. Also, for those running unrooted they won't get the same fast updates.
Another point is that some of us think the Nexus S hurts the Nexus brand.
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I don't think anyone with any sense of business will say that at all. I mean no offense, but hear me out. First, I'm not getting the S. Not a real upgrade, to me.
There is no real Nexus brand. It's nothing more than a silly name, really. Any profit from such a device that Google may see is miniscule at best. The 1 didn't sell many units, so not much profit there. Factor in they probably ordered a lot more than they sold, based upong Google calling it a massive failure. Then, toss in the fact that only uber-geeks bought it... The S is much the same, though sales will be theoretically be better with discount pricing, in-store sales, and better advertising. Profit will still be minimal, in my opinion. Google won't see a large revenue increase because of the S. Sounds like I'm agreeing with you so far, but I'm just saying there's no real Nexus brand.
But, figure there is a Nexus brand. The S, with in-store sales, discount pricing, and better advertising, will appeal to a wider audience than the 1. More Android users now, more people know about Froyo and Gingerbread. The S helps with brand recognition and gets the name out. It's like selling out: you're fan base hates you, nut you increase your fan base ten fold.
It's not what you or I want, but it doesn't hurt the brand, if one even exists.
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Factor in they probably ordered a lot more than they sold, based upong Google calling it a massive failure. Then, toss in the fact that only uber-geeks bought it.
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google called the webstore a failure, not the nexus. they did see profits from the nexus one just a few months after going on sale.
and the nexus WAS meant for uber-geeks
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google called the webstore a failure, not the nexus. they did see profits from the nexus one just a few months after going on sale.
and the nexus WAS meant for uber-geeks
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Thanks for reading it literally and missing the point. The webstore was a failure, hence profits couldn't have been high at all, which is further evidence there is not much of a brand. Better?
Jesus....
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heres a real Nexus 2: http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/15/lg-optimus-2x-first-dual-core-smartphone-launches-with-android/
I think that HTC should first make phones with better HW quality.
Speakers, t-screen, 3G connectivity are a joke on the N1 compared to other phones.
I wouldnt take another chance at HTC. They screwed up with the N1.
Yea that! I would love a G1 with updated specs and a 3.7 inch screen or higher and same keyboard..shooooot!!
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A G2 with a front facing camera, 2.3 and a hinge that didn't feel like it was a second away from failing catastrophically would be tough to beat!
Unfortunately that doesnt exist so try a Nexus S, it works great!
So I bought a Nexus S yesterday, earlier today I noticed a co worker of mine had a Nexus 1, I know of them, I mean I've seen them but I never actually held one; I was blown away by the build quality and the trackball is awesome as well. After playing with his phone I started hitting up craigslist to see if I could find one and was seriously considering returning my Nexus S.
I think I'm gonna keep the Nexus S after all but god damn, I'm just shocked that the Nexus S is the Nexus S, I mean, you would think that after the Nexus 1, the phone replacing it would at least have that same style of build quality. oh well, I still like the NS non the less.
I'm sure you can understand why so many of us chose not to upgrade, eh? The Nexus S is a nice handset if you didn't already have a Nexus One...it just isn't a big enough step up for us though.
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biggest suck up thread ever
though, I personally, am very flattered
Nexus s is great. You get a better touch sensor and a faster gpu.
I played with one in store. I have my N1 running the latest CM7 gingerbread. So I setup my desktop matching the NS.
The screen is a Tad nicer but overall I didn't see much to warrant my dough.
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biggest suck up thread ever
though, I personally, am very flattered
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haha no sucking up here, just gotta pay respect when its due; I mean lets be honest, the Nexus S IS better than the Nexus One, even if the specs are slightly better, with its slightly better screen, higher quality screen, front facing camera, etc. etc. the only thing I feel the S falls short on is the build quality, its nothing bad but its like with the iPhone, I liked the build quality better on the first gen iphone then the 3G or 3GS.
Unless Palm announces something crazy (Palm fanboy here) I'll probably just stick with the Nexus S, I also have a Droid Pro so I think I should be set for a while.
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So I bought a Nexus S yesterday, earlier today I noticed a co worker of mine had a Nexus 1, I know of them, I mean I've seen them but I never actually held one; I was blown away by the build quality and the trackball is awesome as well. After playing with his phone I started hitting up craigslist to see if I could find one and was seriously considering returning my Nexus S.
I think I'm gonna keep the Nexus S after all but god damn, I'm just shocked that the Nexus S is the Nexus S, I mean, you would think that after the Nexus 1, the phone replacing it would at least have that same style of build quality. oh well, I still like the NS non the less.
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Now you see why many of us love the nexus one so much! CPU and specs aside, the nexus one hardware, build quality, color track ball for any notification you want, materials, size and package, its unmatched even by any current phone out there today! This phone is literally a work of art.
Throw in the car dock and desk dock, it can't be beat. Damn I wish Google went with HTC for the next nexus phone.
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Damn I wish Google went with HTC for the next nexus phone.
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I know it just blows my mind that th folks at Google carried around an HTC N1 for almost a year and then decided that the Nexus S made by Samsung was the way to go...it really does blow my mind every time I think about it. Who in their right mind would make that choice?? I'm still bitter about it...feel as if I was robbed out of an upgrade. Forced to make a choice of crappy build quality with better internals or stick with older internals with better build quality. I'd still like to know what asshole at Google made us face that choice.
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I'd still like to know what asshole at Google made us face that choice.
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Oh cmon MM... tell us how you REALLY feel
It make sense to me at least for Google to keep its various manufacturers happy by spreading the Nexus love. I guess we will have to see who the next Nexus is made by: Motorola? LG?
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Oh cmon MM... tell us how you REALLY feel
It make sense to me at least for Google to keep its various manufacturers happy by spreading the Nexus love. I guess we will have to see who the next Nexus is made by: Motorola? LG?
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I hadn't thought about it in awhile and it kinda hit me again there reading this thread.
I can understand wanting to spread the manufacturer love but Google should have told Samsung that if they wanted the Nexus "2", then they could have it, PROVIDED they built it nicer than their usual crap. Google should have kept a higher standard for the Nexus line and they let Samsung kinda cheapen it in my book.
It's one thing to spread the love and it's another to tell Samsung here are the internals we want and oh you can wrap those internals in whatever you want. I almost think us users are prouder of the N1 than Google, who seemed to give up on it like a step child when it didn't sell as well as they would have liked. Hell we users BEGGED Google to advertise the damn thing....but no, they run a search ad during the Super Bowl LESS THAN A MONTH after the Nexus launched...what kind of sense did that make?? Like Google needed a search ad during the Super Bowl...everyone already uses Google search for god's sake!!!
What is up with Samsung and plastic? I know that they have one phone made of metal, but plastic gets so fingerprint prone.
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Oh cmon MM... tell us how you REALLY feel
It make sense to me at least for Google to keep its various manufacturers happy by spreading the Nexus love. I guess we will have to see who the next Nexus is made by: Motorola? LG?
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I hope it is by Motorola, providing that they don't have a locked bootloader. They actually put dual noise canceling mics on their phone (Droid X), which is probably one of the most important thing on a smartphone.
Yeah, hands up for Nexus One
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Old MuckenMire said:
I hadn't thought about it in awhile and it kinda hit me again there reading this thread.
I can understand wanting to spread the manufacturer love but Google should have told Samsung that if they wanted the Nexus "2", then they could have it, PROVIDED they built it nicer than their usual crap. Google should have kept a higher standard for the Nexus line and they let Samsung kinda cheapen it in my book.
It's one thing to spread the love and it's another to tell Samsung here are the internals we want and oh you can wrap those internals in whatever you want. I almost think us users are prouder of the N1 than Google, who seemed to give up on it like a step child when it didn't sell as well as they would have liked. Hell we users BEGGED Google to advertise the damn thing....but no, they run a search ad during the Super Bowl LESS THAN A MONTH after the Nexus launched...what kind of sense did that make?? Like Google needed a search ad during the Super Bowl...everyone already uses Google search for god's sake!!!
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True that everyone already what the hell business google is about. I was too disappointed the way they advertised the n1
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I think that samsung phones build quality is in general cheap, but lets be honest, they can make phones with nice specs, and then there's those qualcomm chipsets that HTC put in the their phones, they're just awful, which kinda makes you consider buying samsung phones.
This is the exact reason I'm still using my N1 - normally I upgrade as soon as the next best phone is out, but the Nexus is just perfect. The build quality is amazing compared to any samsung phones.
And seriously, I'd miss the trackball too much.
With that said, I have a Galaxy Tab - and think thats great, but I don't carry that with me every day so the cheap plastic doesnt annoy me as much
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I think that samsung phones build quality is in general cheap, but lets be honest, they can make phones with nice specs, and then there's those qualcomm chipsets that HTC put in the their phones, they're just awful, which kinda makes you consider buying samsung phones.
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The snapdragon, even first gen, is not too shabby at all, and it beats the hummingbird in a lot of CPU tests. The advantage of hummingbird is the graphics. In fact, I think the nexus one was better at scrolling smoothly over the nexus s in most cases because graphics was not yet enabled on the S. CPU vs CPU the snapdragon seemed to out perform it imo.
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The snapdragon, even first gen, is not too shabby at all, and it beats the hummingbird in a lot of CPU tests. The advantage of hummingbird is the graphics. In fact, I think the nexus one was better at scrolling smoothly over the nexus s in most cases because graphics was not yet enabled on the S. CPU vs CPU the snapdragon seemed to out perform it imo.
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Well, to be honest I never used a the nexus s, here in Brasil is too expensive to get new devices, I used only the galaxy s, which I think is basically the same device, only in a different housing, and it was pretty fast. I used a Nexus One too, but obviously the roms were different (even though both were using cooked froyo roms) and I know experience may vary, but the galaxy s seemed much faster.
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What is up with Samsung and plastic? I know that they have one phone made of metal, but plastic gets so fingerprint prone.
I hope it is by Motorola, providing that they don't have a locked bootloader. They actually put dual noise canceling mics on their phone (Droid X), which is probably one of the most important thing on a smartphone.
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I'm sorry, but I can't agree with you about that MotoNexus crap. Only US of A can be happy with Motorola customer service and update policy... Ever heared of the Milestone? Yeah, Droid with GSM... Today it can only run stock 2.1 krenel because of MotoPLCY and locked bootloader. Rest of the world is so fcuking tired of hearing their craptalk that they would never buy a Moto device again! Well, Nexus phones are not ONLY American phones.
Also I actually don't like the idea of releasing Nexus devices by different manufacturer each year.. It just doesn't make sense for me. Google is a company not different from others, they count each dollar when it comes to spending money. N1 was a good compromise between cheap and technically good, htc made it that way as they did with desire. So... What's the point? Even if Mofofaila would bulid another Nexus (NX? They seem to like that letter) what would be nest? LG? ok, and then?
P.S. If anything what i wrote is unclear, tell me. It can happen, because english is not my native langueage
EDIT: BUT I agree about those dual mics. They do make a difference for me too!
+1 for dual mics
The call sound quality on the N1 and the Droid X are what attracted me to those two phones. In my opinion, it's a MUST HAVE feature and the single biggest reason I haven't bought a Nexus S.
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I'm sorry, but I can't agree with you about that MotoNexus crap. Only US of A can be happy with Motorola customer service and update policy... Ever heared of the Milestone? Yeah, Droid with GSM... Today it can only run stock 2.1 krenel because of MotoPLCY and locked bootloader. Rest of the world is so fcuking tired of hearing their craptalk that they would never buy a Moto device again! Well, Nexus phones are not ONLY American phones.
Also I actually don't like the idea of releasing Nexus devices by different manufacturer each year.. It just doesn't make sense for me. Google is a company not different from others, they count each dollar when it comes to spending money. N1 was a good compromise between cheap and technically good, htc made it that way as they did with desire. So... What's the point? Even if Mofofaila would bulid another Nexus (NX? They seem to like that letter) what would be nest? LG? ok, and then?
P.S. If anything what i wrote is unclear, tell me. It can happen, because english is not my native langueage
EDIT: BUT I agree about those dual mics. They do make a difference for me too!
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but remember, if Moto is making the next nexus, google will be the one controlling the software, not moto. moto shouldn't be able to lock the bootloader in the next nexus without google saying yes.
Does anyone thing this is the route that Google will takes? I mean, people complain about the build quality of the Nexus S being all plastic but, I mean it makes sense. Maybe google was like "We dont want to make a Nexus Two, lets make a Nexus with a different theme, different company" hence why the picked Samsung. Or maybe they just wanted something that would be cheap to mass produce and easy to sell. It would be cool to see a Nexus X a year from now, using the same build material as the Droid X, you know, that soft rubber paint stuff they use on their phones along with some physical buttons, I'm just saying, maybe Google is pimping out their Nexus to whoever can cough up enough dough.. just sayin' lol.
I would hope the nexus line is reserved for the best there is to offer on the market. When the n1 came out it had top tier stuff like the 1ghz snapdragon processor in it. Fast forward to the ns and you have the hummingbird processor and the samoled screen. Personally it doesn't get better than that at this point. The way I see it is I don't care who makes the phone as long as it has the top notch hardware available to go along with those immediate Google updates.
I'm a nexus s and I approve this message
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The way I see it is I don't care who makes the phone as long as it has the top notch hardware available to go along with those immediate Google updates.
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I keep wondering about that, since the Nexus One update isn't so immediate, are the Nexus S updates NOT going to be immediate in the same way, when the Nexus (next) will be released? That would suck if Google did it again.
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I keep wondering about that, since the Nexus One update isn't so immediate, are the Nexus S updates NOT going to be immediate in the same way, when the Nexus (next) will be released? That would suck if Google did it again.
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This update-delay for a Nexus (in this case the Nexus One) will just be once: at the time another Nexus is released. After then, they will get the updates at the same time (more or less). Why do I think this? The Nexus S isn't even released yet in a lot of countries, and since it is the 'first device with Gingerbread', it would be strange if the Nexus One had Gingerbread 3 months before the Nexus S in most countries. Also, I think they released Gingerbread on the Nexus S, before it was ready for other devices. I hope I can explain this to you with my bad english: If you buy a Nexus the day it comes out, you don't get the latest software; you get the software before it is even out. The updates that will be released after that, will come to your Nexus at the time it is released, not before.
I hope you understand what I'm trying to say
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This update-delay for a Nexus (in this case the Nexus One) will just be once: at the time another Nexus is released. After then, they will get the updates at the same time (more or less). Why do I think this? The Nexus S isn't even released yet in a lot of countries, and since it is the 'first device with Gingerbread', it would be strange if the Nexus One had Gingerbread 3 months before the Nexus S in most countries. Also, I think they released Gingerbread on the Nexus S, before it was ready for other devices. I hope I can explain this to you with my bad english: If you buy a Nexus the day it comes out, you don't get the latest software; you get the software before it is even out. The updates that will be released after that, will come to your Nexus at the time it is released, not before.
I hope you understand what I'm trying to say
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I do. And I think it makes perfect sense
It was pretty clear to me that using "S" (presumably for Samsung) instead of "2" meant that Google was leaving the door open for other "Nexus" phones from other companies. I was more along the lines of a Nexus "M" (Motorola), etc, but the S could be for S as in Galaxy "S", in which case your "X" and others make more sense.
The question becomes what would the next Nexus phone from Samsung be, the Nexus S2...?
I think that Nexus will just mean it's a Google sanctioned phone, that runs pure Google Android (no add-ons like Motoblur or TouchWiz or Sense), and is sold UNLOCKED. Note that I did not say they will be a "developer" phone...
Thinking of a "Nexus A" ;-)
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Thinking of a "Nexus A" ;-)
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ROFL!
You might just burn in hell for that one...
I think the next Nexus wont be a phone, it will be a tablet. It makes sense: Google is focusing on tablets now, with 3.0 and all. What I think that they will release another Nexus phone in 2 years, and next year there will be a Nexus Tab or something.
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I think the next Nexus wont be a phone, it will be a tablet. It makes sense: Google is focusing on tablets now, with 3.0 and all. What I think that they will release another Nexus phone in 2 years, and next year there will be a Nexus Tab or something.
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I think that would piss a lot of people off especially the guys on here that switch devices once every year. I can see them releasing a "nexus tab" but not without a new nexus phone to go along with it. But who knows, I'd say nobody on here ever thought they'd go with Samsung to make the next generation nexus. It wouldn't surprise me if they released a top secret tab with dual core when honeycomb is released. Anythings possible that's for sure lol.
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But who knows, I'd say nobody on here ever thought they'd go with Samsung to make the next generation nexus.
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I dunno about "nobody", I never thought they "wouldn't" either, but frankly I didn't think about it all. When Google said "no Nexus 2" I took them at face value and figured no Nexus from any manufacturer.
If the rumors pan out, I would personally love to see a "Nexus N" from Nokia (maintaining the N moniker from the Nseries devices). Having Nokia's top notch hardware and incredible camera optics coupled with Android would perhaps be the perfect device.
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I think that would piss a lot of people off especially the guys on here that switch devices once every year. I can see them releasing a "nexus tab" but not without a new nexus phone to go along with it. But who knows, I'd say nobody on here ever thought they'd go with Samsung to make the next generation nexus. It wouldn't surprise me if they released a top secret tab with dual core when honeycomb is released. Anythings possible that's for sure lol.
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Nobody? I was drooling in excitement at the idea of a Samsung / Google developed Galaxy S / Nexus One combo.
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Nobody? I was drooling in excitement at the idea of a Samsung / Google developed Galaxy S / Nexus One combo.
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Some people are just anti-Samsung and have blinders on about them. They certainly have software update issues, but in my opinion the SAMOLED screens can't be beat by any other display out there, and the rest of the hardware on the SGS series of phones, except for the plastic case, is as good as or better than anything else available.
I also was very excited at an improved i9000-like phone with Google's blessing. If only I'd remembered how much I hate T-Mobile's service in Los Angeles...I'd have probably passed on the Nexus S.
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Nobody? I was drooling in excitement at the idea of a Samsung / Google developed Galaxy S / Nexus One combo.
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ok so maybe a little over exaggeration on my part but my point was who knows who itl be or if theyl change makers or even if theyl build a new one at all. this phone is the best available, it wasnt a knock at samsung in the least, i had a captivate before the ns and loved it.
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Some_One_Else said:
Thinking of a "Nexus A" ;-)
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LOL
wouldn't that be a "Nexus i" ?
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LOL
wouldn't that be a "Nexus i" ?
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The iNexus - This changes everything. To a different OS.
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Some people are just anti-Samsung and have blinders on about them. They certainly have software update issues, but in my opinion the SAMOLED screens can't be beat by any other display out there, and the rest of the hardware on the SGS series of phones, except for the plastic case, is as good as or better than anything else available.
I also was very excited at an improved i9000-like phone with Google's blessing. If only I'd remembered how much I hate T-Mobile's service in Los Angeles...I'd have probably passed on the Nexus S.
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I defended Samsung for a long time, but I've had enough problems with Samsung to prefer never to buy their stuff again if I don't have to. Both me and my girlfriend are on our 3rd Nexus S's since launch and neither of us are crazy about the build materials. The cheap piano black plastic they use has been consistent with all of their phones I've used since the i8910 and what's said about delayed software updates is true across the board. It took forever to get updates for the i8910 and everyone knows about the Galaxy S updates. If it weren't for the SAMOLED and Google handling the updates, I wouldn't have bothered with the Nexus S at all.
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I think the next Nexus wont be a phone, it will be a tablet. It makes sense: Google is focusing on tablets now, with 3.0 and all. What I think that they will release another Nexus phone in 2 years, and next year there will be a Nexus Tab or something.
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The motorola xoom is essentially the nexus tablet. Software made by google, it's the first to be released with it (honeycomb), and it's the reference device the software has been made on. Considering history dictates the device running the newest software is an official google device, I'll be getting the xoom.
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I defended Samsung for a long time, but I've had enough problems with Samsung to prefer never to buy their stuff again if I don't have to. Both me and my girlfriend are on our 3rd Nexus S's since launch and neither of us are crazy about the build materials. The cheap piano black plastic they use has been consistent with all of their phones I've used since the i8910 and what's said about delayed software updates is true across the board. It took forever to get updates for the i8910 and everyone knows about the Galaxy S updates. If it weren't for the SAMOLED and Google handling the updates, I wouldn't have bothered with the Nexus S at all.
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I have used cheap plastic phones before and nexus s certainly is not cheap - far from it. It feels as good as plastic can feel, I have never held a better plastic based phone. I don't understand peoples complaints with it. The only bad thing is it's a finger print magnet. But I use a case with all my phones so it's no biggy.
Does anyone know if there is still any place that sells brand new GT-I9020T Nexus S phones?
Best buy
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and will that work on T-Mobile 3G? I see that it is listed as an AT&T phone
You have to pick the Tmobile one. They sell all 3.
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are you sure? I don't see the T-Mobile Nexus S listed on their site...
Try a Store!
traded an htc sensation for mine. no regrets
having trouble deciding between the Nexus S and the upcoming nexus prime.. the prime looks cool but 4.65 inch screen just seems impractical for a smartphone...
the prime is not going to be released any time soon
hope that helps
wait seriously? how do you know?
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having trouble deciding between the Nexus S and the upcoming nexus prime.. the prime looks cool but 4.65 inch screen just seems impractical for a smartphone...
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4.65" is including the part for "buttons" since they will be on the screen as there aren't any physical keys. so technically it isn't 4.65"
http://androidandme.com/2011/10/devices/doing-the-math-how-the-next-nexus-measures-up/
but is it really not coming out anytime soon?
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but is it really not coming out anytime soon?
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Depends on your definition of "soon".
As of right now it looks like it will be released around November.
If you want a cynic's opinion, here it is: The Nexus S was old-hat before it was even released. The only benefit was the ease of unlocking and getting updates first, which sounds awesome until you realize that the initial versions of GB were massively buggy. I'd expect the same for ICS. Add to that the fact that HTC is making it so you can easily unlock all of their phones and the list of reasons why I would want one gets much, much shorter. Non-existent, in fact. I'm actively looking for a way to get my hands on a device with hardware that wasn't dated before the first model rolled off the line or wasn't succeeded months later by a phone with a key feature the original was lacking for a more than sub-par carrier. I've said it before, but to save you the trouble of reading it somewhere else, I should have learned my lesson about buying Samsung phones after the Epic 4g debacle but I didn't. I have now and I'll advise anyone against buying their POS devices.
what does gingerbread being buggy have to do with samsung?
AllGamer said:
the prime is not going to be released any time soon
hope that helps
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I'd say before the end of the year is "soon"
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what does gingerbread being buggy have to do with samsung?
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When did I say it did? Never? Yeah that's the answer to that. See there are things called 'lists' where you mention many things that are all related to one other topic but are not necessarily related to each other. Like a grocery list. See cereal and baby spinach are not related to each other but they are both things I need from the grocery store. Just like GB being buggy and my hatred for the way Samsung treats its customers are both reasons why I wouldn't want another nexus device but they are not related to each other. Does basic sentence structure make sense now?
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kenvan19 said:
When did I say it did? Never? Yeah that's the answer to that. See there are things called 'lists' where you mention many things that are all related to one other topic but are not necessarily related to each other. Like a grocery list. See cereal and baby spinach are not related to each other but they are both things I need from the grocery store. Just like GB being buggy and my hatred for the way Samsung treats its customers are both reasons why I wouldn't want another nexus device but they are not related to each other. Does basic sentence structure make sense now?
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I think he was confused (as was I) by the fact that your conclusion didn't really follow from your argument. You complained about the phone being outdated and you complained about gingerbread being buggy and then you ended by concluding that you shouldn't have bought a Samsung phone. But everything you complained of was Google's doing.
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I just picked up an i9020t Nexus S knowing full well that the Nexus Prime is coming. You know why?
Refined Galaxy S hardware
Comfortable rounded edges (looking at you, captivate)
Great ROM support, with ICS on the horizon
Respectable battery life
Pretty freaking fast
So yeah, the phone's hardware is dated. However, the Nexus S is my favorite size and shape, and OC'ed to 1.2ghz with some speed hacks from different places, I can't even imagine wanting for more speed. Now, this is all my opinion, but you can land a Nexus S now for a reasonable price. So get one and have several happy months of hacking!
eBay
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You know how Samsung say they're inspired by nature? One thing's rather peculiar. I don't recall nature being bloated, ugly and sluggish. Or maybe they specifically mean stink bugs, ticks, weeds, etc.. Rather peculiar, don't you think?
'Tis a funny world we live in.
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You know how Samsung say they're inspired by nature? One thing's rather peculiar. I don't recall nature being bloated, ugly and sluggish. Or maybe they specifically mean stink bugs, ticks, weeds, etc.. Rather peculiar, don't you think?
'Tis a funny world we live in.
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Inspired by what comes out of a cows ar*e I think... ill never buy a samsung again I know that much
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This is the first and the last samsung phone, from now on i'm going with nexus.
My first Samsung phone, OEM wise. I had a Gnex before. This is, however, my very last Samsung device. EVER. I will never buy another Faildung device again. Deciding which phone will be my bext is hard, though, because I'm considering either the Xperia Z, HTC One or the next Nexus. Maybe not the HTC after all because I don't feel like messing with locked down bootloaders (unless they're nexii because it's a simple fastboot command to lock/unlock at your will)
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My first Samsung phone, OEM wise. I had a Gnex before. This is, however, my very last Samsung device. EVER. I will never buy another Faildung device again. Deciding which phone will be my bext is hard, though, because I'm considering either the Xperia Z, HTC One or the next Nexus. Maybe not the HTC after all because I don't feel like messing with locked down bootloaders (unless they're nexii because it's a simple fastboot command to lock/unlock at your will)
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Yeah htc's are a bit*h man a mate of mine has a xperia z its a very very nice phone in my opinion
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Theshawty said:
........ Rather peculiar, don't you think?
'Tis a funny world we live in.
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Questions belong in Q&A
Theshawty said:
My first Samsung phone, OEM wise. I had a Gnex before. This is, however, my very last Samsung device. EVER. I will never buy another Faildung device again. Deciding which phone will be my bext is hard, though, because I'm considering either the Xperia Z, HTC One or the next Nexus. Maybe not the HTC after all because I don't feel like messing with locked down bootloaders (unless they're nexii because it's a simple fastboot command to lock/unlock at your will)
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Don't forget this site if you want an xperia z
http://unlockbootloader.sonymobile.com/
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i agree to you guys..
samsung is crap. will never buy samsung again, NEVER.
you will only have problems with samsung, like the SDS.
Go with Iphone (no im not iphone fan or something, never owned one but friends got.)or with Nexus.
Software > Hardware
saprer said:
i agree to you guys..
samsung is crap. will never buy samsung again, NEVER.
you will only have problems with samsung, like the SDS.
Go with Iphone (no im not iphone fan or something, never owned one but friends got.)or with Nexus.
Software > Hardware
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"Software > Hardware"
Clearly not the case with iPhones, ^^
Inspired by nature, yeah right.
Two words: dog poo.
Its natural
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The Inspired by Nature thing was a huge marketing fail in my view.
Where is Glebun.. Waiting for him.. Shawty beware...
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Where is Glebun.. Waiting for him.. Shawty beware...
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Haha got the jaws theme tune in my head now
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I'm quite happy with my samsung. Had the S II before this S III and I guess I like the multitude of roms available. Sure, Samsung needs to get their Exynos sources out in the wild but even without them AOSP, Cyanogenmod and AOKP aren't that bad. Used those type of Roms for a while and never thought I would flash a Samsung based rom again... Until a few weeks ago. You could say there's alot of bloatware in the stock rom and you're absolutely right. On the other hand, some bloat is really "useful". For me personally I really like showing photos and videos directly on my TV without having to open a third party DLNA app. I like how easy it is to root and unroot everything back to stock. I like my external SD card, removable battery. I like how their phones feel in my hand. My girlfriend has an Xperia S and although I kinda like the design, it just doesn't feel right in the hand nor are the menu and back button easy to touch. I think the S4 with a Snapdragon or Exynos with sources will be the perfect phone. Gonna hold on to my S III for the time being or till I have one of my impulsive buying sprees.
Personally, I don't really "get" the Nature bit. Bit of a Marketing thing, differentiation and all that USP stuff.
I'm actually quite happy with the S3. I've a later one, mind. I've never had any funny reboots whatever firmware I used, never had any marks or cracks and the battery life on a Stock or Stock based ROM is rather good.
My primary likes are:
Good sound, great FM radio (I use this a lot due to a serious walking regime - I'm probably of a similar age to one of you other guys). The call quality and general signal sensitivity (GPS/FM/Cell/WiFi/BT) are really good. The notification LED is a real boon too - not having to wake the phone to see missed activity or see something come in during a meeting is fantastic.
The screen is truly oleophobic AND scratch-resistant - I hate screen protectors - they're hard to fit properly and look sh1t quickly.
They hold their value well if looked after cosmetically.
In a word then it is reliable - and eminently modifiable.
The things I dislike are:
The screen is just not bright enough outside even without direct sunlight. Hopelessly dim. This is the biggy for me - walking whilst outside and trying to read anything is just a joke.
The Samsung software is cobbled together, and feels so. Fortunately I remove most of it, but the core is still there... and their non-open source approach and lack of engagement with their development community is a "shame".
A soft gel case is a necessity or you will drop it. I never have. Touch wood.
The accessories supplied are 2nd rate. Belies the cost of the phone.
Replacing the screen and digitizer as a unit (the only real way to do it) is f.expensive (I did a mate's - £150)
I would buy another Samsung, I had the SGS2 and that was good for its time too. My wife's 2 yo Omnia 7 is also reliable and she has had no issues with that either. My eldest daughter's Xperia S has started losing pixels. My youngest daughter's HTC ONE S is totally stock and has randomly rebooted from new for no obvious reason. And this is the 4th Amazon BNIB replacement. It looks like crap too after a few weeks as the black finish is brittle.
Problem is, what else is there?
S4 - unknown quantity (might not have an FM Radio, might be Snapdragon or not), £600 and being an early adopter means beta tester.
HTC ONE - even if you can get hold of one, too early to tell if they are reliable or durable and the modding potential is not great.
Nexus 4 - No FM radio and LG not the world's best phone designer
Sony Z - good but odd in the hand and screen dim - massive development potential though thanks to Sony.
LG Optimus G - not readily available, too expensive, no FM radio and no development community and Billy Bland.
Note 2 - get real. S3 on acid with a silly stick, has its own identity crisis.
I would like the OPPO Find 5 - but not available and may not have an FM Radio or LED notification. Or development potential. I have an OPPO Blu-Ray player that is utterly fantastic. For those that remember, like a Nakamichi tape deck style quality.
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Where is Glebun.. Waiting for him.. Shawty beware...
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right here! Where was I? Right.. This kind of stuff should be in the General thread, that's what it's for
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right here! Where was I? Right.. This kind of stuff should be in the General thread, that's what it's for
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Well! You won't get an argument from me..
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right here! Where was I? Right.. This kind of stuff should be in the General thread, that's what it's for
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Better late than never
Glebun said:
right here! Where was I? Right.. This kind of stuff should be in the General thread, that's what it's for
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With the current discussions going on in the general thread (eels, lube, etc.) I don't think many dare entering, or even stay after they've entered so I thought I'd liven the place up a bit.
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Better late than never
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Your location reminds me of my favorite Orbital song!