Nexus One, Nexus S, Nexus X, Nexus Optimus, etc. - Nexus S General

Does anyone thing this is the route that Google will takes? I mean, people complain about the build quality of the Nexus S being all plastic but, I mean it makes sense. Maybe google was like "We dont want to make a Nexus Two, lets make a Nexus with a different theme, different company" hence why the picked Samsung. Or maybe they just wanted something that would be cheap to mass produce and easy to sell. It would be cool to see a Nexus X a year from now, using the same build material as the Droid X, you know, that soft rubber paint stuff they use on their phones along with some physical buttons, I'm just saying, maybe Google is pimping out their Nexus to whoever can cough up enough dough.. just sayin' lol.

I would hope the nexus line is reserved for the best there is to offer on the market. When the n1 came out it had top tier stuff like the 1ghz snapdragon processor in it. Fast forward to the ns and you have the hummingbird processor and the samoled screen. Personally it doesn't get better than that at this point. The way I see it is I don't care who makes the phone as long as it has the top notch hardware available to go along with those immediate Google updates.
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fosdos4790 said:
The way I see it is I don't care who makes the phone as long as it has the top notch hardware available to go along with those immediate Google updates.
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I keep wondering about that, since the Nexus One update isn't so immediate, are the Nexus S updates NOT going to be immediate in the same way, when the Nexus (next) will be released? That would suck if Google did it again.

patrixl said:
I keep wondering about that, since the Nexus One update isn't so immediate, are the Nexus S updates NOT going to be immediate in the same way, when the Nexus (next) will be released? That would suck if Google did it again.
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This update-delay for a Nexus (in this case the Nexus One) will just be once: at the time another Nexus is released. After then, they will get the updates at the same time (more or less). Why do I think this? The Nexus S isn't even released yet in a lot of countries, and since it is the 'first device with Gingerbread', it would be strange if the Nexus One had Gingerbread 3 months before the Nexus S in most countries. Also, I think they released Gingerbread on the Nexus S, before it was ready for other devices. I hope I can explain this to you with my bad english: If you buy a Nexus the day it comes out, you don't get the latest software; you get the software before it is even out. The updates that will be released after that, will come to your Nexus at the time it is released, not before.
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Androyed said:
This update-delay for a Nexus (in this case the Nexus One) will just be once: at the time another Nexus is released. After then, they will get the updates at the same time (more or less). Why do I think this? The Nexus S isn't even released yet in a lot of countries, and since it is the 'first device with Gingerbread', it would be strange if the Nexus One had Gingerbread 3 months before the Nexus S in most countries. Also, I think they released Gingerbread on the Nexus S, before it was ready for other devices. I hope I can explain this to you with my bad english: If you buy a Nexus the day it comes out, you don't get the latest software; you get the software before it is even out. The updates that will be released after that, will come to your Nexus at the time it is released, not before.
I hope you understand what I'm trying to say
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I do. And I think it makes perfect sense

It was pretty clear to me that using "S" (presumably for Samsung) instead of "2" meant that Google was leaving the door open for other "Nexus" phones from other companies. I was more along the lines of a Nexus "M" (Motorola), etc, but the S could be for S as in Galaxy "S", in which case your "X" and others make more sense.
The question becomes what would the next Nexus phone from Samsung be, the Nexus S2...?
I think that Nexus will just mean it's a Google sanctioned phone, that runs pure Google Android (no add-ons like Motoblur or TouchWiz or Sense), and is sold UNLOCKED. Note that I did not say they will be a "developer" phone...

Thinking of a "Nexus A" ;-)

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Thinking of a "Nexus A" ;-)
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ROFL!
You might just burn in hell for that one...

I think the next Nexus wont be a phone, it will be a tablet. It makes sense: Google is focusing on tablets now, with 3.0 and all. What I think that they will release another Nexus phone in 2 years, and next year there will be a Nexus Tab or something.

Androyed said:
I think the next Nexus wont be a phone, it will be a tablet. It makes sense: Google is focusing on tablets now, with 3.0 and all. What I think that they will release another Nexus phone in 2 years, and next year there will be a Nexus Tab or something.
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I think that would piss a lot of people off especially the guys on here that switch devices once every year. I can see them releasing a "nexus tab" but not without a new nexus phone to go along with it. But who knows, I'd say nobody on here ever thought they'd go with Samsung to make the next generation nexus. It wouldn't surprise me if they released a top secret tab with dual core when honeycomb is released. Anythings possible that's for sure lol.
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fosdos4790 said:
But who knows, I'd say nobody on here ever thought they'd go with Samsung to make the next generation nexus.
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I dunno about "nobody", I never thought they "wouldn't" either, but frankly I didn't think about it all. When Google said "no Nexus 2" I took them at face value and figured no Nexus from any manufacturer.

If the rumors pan out, I would personally love to see a "Nexus N" from Nokia (maintaining the N moniker from the Nseries devices). Having Nokia's top notch hardware and incredible camera optics coupled with Android would perhaps be the perfect device.

fosdos4790 said:
I think that would piss a lot of people off especially the guys on here that switch devices once every year. I can see them releasing a "nexus tab" but not without a new nexus phone to go along with it. But who knows, I'd say nobody on here ever thought they'd go with Samsung to make the next generation nexus. It wouldn't surprise me if they released a top secret tab with dual core when honeycomb is released. Anythings possible that's for sure lol.
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Nobody? I was drooling in excitement at the idea of a Samsung / Google developed Galaxy S / Nexus One combo.

Anderdroid said:
Nobody? I was drooling in excitement at the idea of a Samsung / Google developed Galaxy S / Nexus One combo.
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Some people are just anti-Samsung and have blinders on about them. They certainly have software update issues, but in my opinion the SAMOLED screens can't be beat by any other display out there, and the rest of the hardware on the SGS series of phones, except for the plastic case, is as good as or better than anything else available.
I also was very excited at an improved i9000-like phone with Google's blessing. If only I'd remembered how much I hate T-Mobile's service in Los Angeles...I'd have probably passed on the Nexus S.

Anderdroid said:
Nobody? I was drooling in excitement at the idea of a Samsung / Google developed Galaxy S / Nexus One combo.
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ok so maybe a little over exaggeration on my part but my point was who knows who itl be or if theyl change makers or even if theyl build a new one at all. this phone is the best available, it wasnt a knock at samsung in the least, i had a captivate before the ns and loved it.

distortedloop said:
ROFL!
You might just burn in hell for that one...
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Some_One_Else said:
Thinking of a "Nexus A" ;-)
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LOL
wouldn't that be a "Nexus i" ?

AllGamer said:
LOL
wouldn't that be a "Nexus i" ?
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The iNexus - This changes everything. To a different OS.

distortedloop said:
Some people are just anti-Samsung and have blinders on about them. They certainly have software update issues, but in my opinion the SAMOLED screens can't be beat by any other display out there, and the rest of the hardware on the SGS series of phones, except for the plastic case, is as good as or better than anything else available.
I also was very excited at an improved i9000-like phone with Google's blessing. If only I'd remembered how much I hate T-Mobile's service in Los Angeles...I'd have probably passed on the Nexus S.
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I defended Samsung for a long time, but I've had enough problems with Samsung to prefer never to buy their stuff again if I don't have to. Both me and my girlfriend are on our 3rd Nexus S's since launch and neither of us are crazy about the build materials. The cheap piano black plastic they use has been consistent with all of their phones I've used since the i8910 and what's said about delayed software updates is true across the board. It took forever to get updates for the i8910 and everyone knows about the Galaxy S updates. If it weren't for the SAMOLED and Google handling the updates, I wouldn't have bothered with the Nexus S at all.

Androyed said:
I think the next Nexus wont be a phone, it will be a tablet. It makes sense: Google is focusing on tablets now, with 3.0 and all. What I think that they will release another Nexus phone in 2 years, and next year there will be a Nexus Tab or something.
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The motorola xoom is essentially the nexus tablet. Software made by google, it's the first to be released with it (honeycomb), and it's the reference device the software has been made on. Considering history dictates the device running the newest software is an official google device, I'll be getting the xoom.

j.bruha said:
I defended Samsung for a long time, but I've had enough problems with Samsung to prefer never to buy their stuff again if I don't have to. Both me and my girlfriend are on our 3rd Nexus S's since launch and neither of us are crazy about the build materials. The cheap piano black plastic they use has been consistent with all of their phones I've used since the i8910 and what's said about delayed software updates is true across the board. It took forever to get updates for the i8910 and everyone knows about the Galaxy S updates. If it weren't for the SAMOLED and Google handling the updates, I wouldn't have bothered with the Nexus S at all.
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I have used cheap plastic phones before and nexus s certainly is not cheap - far from it. It feels as good as plastic can feel, I have never held a better plastic based phone. I don't understand peoples complaints with it. The only bad thing is it's a finger print magnet. But I use a case with all my phones so it's no biggy.

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Google might release Nexus Two next month

Damn so soon
Didnt google just announce though that there wasnt going to be a N2? - http://pocketnow.com/tech-news/google-says-no-nexus-two-nexus-one-is-last-of-the-line
Neowin has just learned from an inside source close to Google that they are hard at work on the successor of the Nexus One, dubbed the Nexus Two.
Although not too much information has been revealed about the Nexus Two, but the tipster has revealed Google is going to release it within the next month. With other rumors of Android 3.0 in the wild, running on what looks to be the Nexus One, which could actually be the first image of the Nexus Two, shows the device running a new firmware with a piece of paper covering the top of the phone.
Nexus One may not have sold a lot of units, around 135,000 units in the first three months, and was even dropped by Sprint due to poor sales and because its bigger competition, the HTC EVO 4G, was about to debut for release.
Google stopped shipping the Nexus One earlier this month, closing its online store so consumers couldn't purchase the phone directly from the company themselves.
According to our source, the Nexus Two is set to release next month, but no pricing, date or technical specs were released, but Google is secretly working on the Nexus Two. One thing is for sure, Google will need to make this release a good one if they want to compete with Apple's iPhone 4, Microsoft's Windows Phone 7, and the HTC EVO 4G.
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http://www.neowin.net/news/google-might-release-nexus-two-next-month
will be interesting to see if this is true?
this is all very confusing but also kind of f*****g sweet
I don't believe it...
I hope it's a tablet, 8" screen Media drive slot, USB port etc...
I am getting it if it is true but too bad it probably won't happen
According to CNET's Buzz Out Loud, Google announced it will not be producing any more devices. It's verified here:
http://technorati.com/technology/article/google-ceo-no-nexus-two-coming/
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LoL! 3.0 isn't even due 'til December! Those guys just saw the picture of a N1 with 3.0 and decided to make up a story.
Sounds like a great story...hopefully it will have a happy ending.
Probably stupidly referring to the G2 slide or whatever its called.
No screen/processor/OS upgrade worth making a Nexus Two right now in any case.
It's probably a tweaked nexus one to be sold as ADP3
xManMythLegend said:
Probably stupidly referring to the G2 slide or whatever its called.
No screen/processor/OS upgrade worth making a Nexus Two right now in any case.
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dont be so quick to discard technology that may not be known to the public, who would have thought of a 1ghz snapdragon before the nexus?
Blueman101 said:
dont be so quick to discard technology that may not be known to the public, who would have thought of a 1ghz snapdragon before the nexus?
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The same company that made the HD2?
irishrally said:
The same company that made the HD2?
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And the company that made Toshiba TG01.
uansari1 said:
I don't believe it...
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I don't either...But if Schmidt said the N1's purpose was to push the hardware platform, and now everyone is pretty much caught up? I wouldn't put it past Google to want to push it again.
Come on G, show 'em how it's done...Again!
There is no point in pushing it again, not now, and not in any near future. The current top Android devices sport the best HW available.
Looking for page hits, that's what this article is...
This information does not surprise me at all with the exception of Google making another Nexus. About 3.0 i am not surprised at all and I expect leaks to start happening in august.. screens and images of phones that might carry the new Software version. Considering Google plans to debut this update around OCT then at the very latest we should have seen quite a bit by SEPT..
This is one of the rumors that everybody could write.
Obviously, bull****.
There won't be a N2. Since N1 kicked off android development so successfully, if google is working on some hardware, it'll be a tablet or something similar. Something to expand android to other devices.
What if T-Mobile's HTC Emerald IS the NEXUS TWO?

Google better not abandon or neglect N1 for this NS

Google better not leave us Nexus One owners out to dry for this Nexus S. Im talking about being the first to get updates like Gingerbread and Honeycomb (at least up to Honeycomb).
I still love my Nexus One and don't see any overwhelming reason to change to the Nexus S. Especially since HTC has been SO good to me.
Who's with me? Any of you thinking about jumping ship? Why?
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im with you, i dislike the general look of samsung hardware, looks like an iphone to me...
I'll stick with the Nexus One because it's still great and will get the latest updates.
And I agree with the guy above.
Oh, see this comparisation of the Nexus S, Nexus One and Galaxy S http://www.google.com/phone/compare/?phone=nexus-s&phone=nexus-one&phone=samsung-galaxy-s
try posting this in the right section... this is for apps and themes
lol, don't kid yourself, Google abandoned the N1 3 months after it came out. The N1 is getting shafted. Thanks Google.
If Google F's us over we still got the Dev. and XDA to save the day.
I don't see them leaving us in the dark.
As for getting the new one. At this point, nope. Not enough there to justify the $529. More memory, but no expansion?? 2nd Camera that I would never use. The Gyroscope. Eh.
Really the only thing there is Android 2.3. It will come out eventually for the N1. Even if not right away I will wait for it. I might try it when it comes time to upgrade the latest Desire Port but I have been happy with Sense UI and want to keep that in the long term so no big deal.
Not worried about Google as long as we have XDA!
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Not worried about Google as long as we have XDA!
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I would like to definitely try it. The only thing that kinda bothers me is the built in memory, but then again I have 8GB on the nexus one and I don't really feel the need to upgrade to anything more yet. If I switch to the nS is because of the front camera and (hopefully) a better digitizer, I hate the half baked one of the n1.
Me too...still love my nexus one even can not afford google maps 5.0 on gingerbread...
i doubt google will leave the nexus one behind, especially since the N1 and NS are very similiar in hardware, the NS is supior in power, but not enough to make it get updates the N1 won't
Also google has already said the N1 will be getting gingerbread in a few weeks, and i'm sure both phones will be getting honeycomb when it eventually comes out.
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i doubt google will leave the nexus one behind, especially since the N1 and NS are very similiar in hardware, the NS is supior in power, but not enough to make it get updates the N1 won't
Also google has already said the N1 will be getting gingerbread in a few weeks, and i'm sure both phones will be getting honeycomb when it eventually comes out.
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Thats a very good point Neo, Thanks.
I'm pretty sure they did ages ago and just handed over everything to HTC, who will probably get rid of all N1 support in about 6 months when the last warranties expire.
In terms of software though, it BETTER get Gingerbread and Honeycomb.
sirjoeyg said:
Google better not leave us Nexus One owners out to dry for this Nexus S. Im talking about being the first to get updates like Gingerbread and Honeycomb (at least up to Honeycomb).
I still love my Nexus One and don't see any overwhelming reason to change to the Nexus S. Especially since HTC has been SO good to me.
Who's with me? Any of you thinking about jumping ship? Why?
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Let me paraphrase that for you.
I have a Nexus One, a year old phone, that is being surpassed by superior hardware on a slew of devices. Google better continue specializing their production of Android based on my year old device, those bastards. If they move forward and advance phone tech and its corresponding software I'm gonna be pissed!
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Joking aside ; even if Google does abandon us, as you say, it's certainly not the end for the Nexus One. Look at the G1 running Froyo for crying out loud. There are a lot of N1's floating around out there, and the demographic of its users are almost all tech heads like ourselves - A LOT of whom are even developers/programmers.
Don't concern yourself with the matter, if your phone does what you need it to and you like it... keep it. If you need to be first in line for updates directly from Google for the next year, I would suspect the NS would be the way to go.
Personally, I'm hanging on to my N1 until there are some respectable multi-core phones on the market. When that day finally comes I intend on having my Nexus framed; this has been the best phone I've owned and I don't think I could find it in myself to sell it.
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lol, don't kid yourself, Google abandoned the N1 3 months after it came out. The N1 is getting shafted. Thanks Google.
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That N1 has never gotten shafted, seriously. Give an example. The reality is that 11 months after its release we are still at the head of the line for OS updates. What is it with the ridiculous persecution complex among some N1 owners??
We should as a community make sure that google doesn't leave us.
we must remind them that as we were loyal to them, and they'd better not do an apple thing and ditch us.
Our phone's still more than capable compared to any other phone out there....
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Although XDA community's gr8, we should get their support too.
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Look at the G1 running Froyo for crying out loud.
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This alone should be enough to console the worried. A 2 year old phone, with incredibly outdated hardware, is still getting major support from developers -- if even Google abandons us.. hopefully there is one place that won't.
I bet the G1 itself is going to get a Gingerbread port.
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What is it with the ridiculous persecution complex among some N1 owners??
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Indeed, +1
I dont get why anyone gets so defensive about a phone, whatever it may be. Choose the phone which does what YOU want it to do, what it does NOW, not what it may or may not do in the future. Then, when you've made the choice, don't try and tell everyone else what they should or shouldn't choose.
As for the NS, looks nice enough, but I wont buy one for 2 reasons. First I've just bought an iphone 4 and second I'm reluctant to buy anything from samsung - I've had very little luck with their products - not just phones, and its always been a frustrating ownership experience - and worse - when its time to sell on, the resale value is terrible.
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Google better not leave us Nexus One owners out to dry for this Nexus S. Im talking about being the first to get updates like Gingerbread and Honeycomb (at least up to Honeycomb).
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Google owes you nothing. The N1 was primarily a reference dev device for Eclair/Froyo. The NS is the new reference dev device for Gingerbread/2.4.
It's called progress, get over it.

I almost wish I looked at a N1 before picking up a NS

So I bought a Nexus S yesterday, earlier today I noticed a co worker of mine had a Nexus 1, I know of them, I mean I've seen them but I never actually held one; I was blown away by the build quality and the trackball is awesome as well. After playing with his phone I started hitting up craigslist to see if I could find one and was seriously considering returning my Nexus S.
I think I'm gonna keep the Nexus S after all but god damn, I'm just shocked that the Nexus S is the Nexus S, I mean, you would think that after the Nexus 1, the phone replacing it would at least have that same style of build quality. oh well, I still like the NS non the less.
I'm sure you can understand why so many of us chose not to upgrade, eh? The Nexus S is a nice handset if you didn't already have a Nexus One...it just isn't a big enough step up for us though.
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biggest suck up thread ever
though, I personally, am very flattered
Nexus s is great. You get a better touch sensor and a faster gpu.
I played with one in store. I have my N1 running the latest CM7 gingerbread. So I setup my desktop matching the NS.
The screen is a Tad nicer but overall I didn't see much to warrant my dough.
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biggest suck up thread ever
though, I personally, am very flattered
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haha no sucking up here, just gotta pay respect when its due; I mean lets be honest, the Nexus S IS better than the Nexus One, even if the specs are slightly better, with its slightly better screen, higher quality screen, front facing camera, etc. etc. the only thing I feel the S falls short on is the build quality, its nothing bad but its like with the iPhone, I liked the build quality better on the first gen iphone then the 3G or 3GS.
Unless Palm announces something crazy (Palm fanboy here) I'll probably just stick with the Nexus S, I also have a Droid Pro so I think I should be set for a while.
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So I bought a Nexus S yesterday, earlier today I noticed a co worker of mine had a Nexus 1, I know of them, I mean I've seen them but I never actually held one; I was blown away by the build quality and the trackball is awesome as well. After playing with his phone I started hitting up craigslist to see if I could find one and was seriously considering returning my Nexus S.
I think I'm gonna keep the Nexus S after all but god damn, I'm just shocked that the Nexus S is the Nexus S, I mean, you would think that after the Nexus 1, the phone replacing it would at least have that same style of build quality. oh well, I still like the NS non the less.
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Now you see why many of us love the nexus one so much! CPU and specs aside, the nexus one hardware, build quality, color track ball for any notification you want, materials, size and package, its unmatched even by any current phone out there today! This phone is literally a work of art.
Throw in the car dock and desk dock, it can't be beat. Damn I wish Google went with HTC for the next nexus phone.
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Damn I wish Google went with HTC for the next nexus phone.
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I know it just blows my mind that th folks at Google carried around an HTC N1 for almost a year and then decided that the Nexus S made by Samsung was the way to go...it really does blow my mind every time I think about it. Who in their right mind would make that choice?? I'm still bitter about it...feel as if I was robbed out of an upgrade. Forced to make a choice of crappy build quality with better internals or stick with older internals with better build quality. I'd still like to know what asshole at Google made us face that choice.
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I'd still like to know what asshole at Google made us face that choice.
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Oh cmon MM... tell us how you REALLY feel
It make sense to me at least for Google to keep its various manufacturers happy by spreading the Nexus love. I guess we will have to see who the next Nexus is made by: Motorola? LG?
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Oh cmon MM... tell us how you REALLY feel
It make sense to me at least for Google to keep its various manufacturers happy by spreading the Nexus love. I guess we will have to see who the next Nexus is made by: Motorola? LG?
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I hadn't thought about it in awhile and it kinda hit me again there reading this thread.
I can understand wanting to spread the manufacturer love but Google should have told Samsung that if they wanted the Nexus "2", then they could have it, PROVIDED they built it nicer than their usual crap. Google should have kept a higher standard for the Nexus line and they let Samsung kinda cheapen it in my book.
It's one thing to spread the love and it's another to tell Samsung here are the internals we want and oh you can wrap those internals in whatever you want. I almost think us users are prouder of the N1 than Google, who seemed to give up on it like a step child when it didn't sell as well as they would have liked. Hell we users BEGGED Google to advertise the damn thing....but no, they run a search ad during the Super Bowl LESS THAN A MONTH after the Nexus launched...what kind of sense did that make?? Like Google needed a search ad during the Super Bowl...everyone already uses Google search for god's sake!!!
What is up with Samsung and plastic? I know that they have one phone made of metal, but plastic gets so fingerprint prone.
ap3604 said:
Oh cmon MM... tell us how you REALLY feel
It make sense to me at least for Google to keep its various manufacturers happy by spreading the Nexus love. I guess we will have to see who the next Nexus is made by: Motorola? LG?
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I hope it is by Motorola, providing that they don't have a locked bootloader. They actually put dual noise canceling mics on their phone (Droid X), which is probably one of the most important thing on a smartphone.
Yeah, hands up for Nexus One
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Old MuckenMire said:
I hadn't thought about it in awhile and it kinda hit me again there reading this thread.
I can understand wanting to spread the manufacturer love but Google should have told Samsung that if they wanted the Nexus "2", then they could have it, PROVIDED they built it nicer than their usual crap. Google should have kept a higher standard for the Nexus line and they let Samsung kinda cheapen it in my book.
It's one thing to spread the love and it's another to tell Samsung here are the internals we want and oh you can wrap those internals in whatever you want. I almost think us users are prouder of the N1 than Google, who seemed to give up on it like a step child when it didn't sell as well as they would have liked. Hell we users BEGGED Google to advertise the damn thing....but no, they run a search ad during the Super Bowl LESS THAN A MONTH after the Nexus launched...what kind of sense did that make?? Like Google needed a search ad during the Super Bowl...everyone already uses Google search for god's sake!!!
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True that everyone already what the hell business google is about. I was too disappointed the way they advertised the n1
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I think that samsung phones build quality is in general cheap, but lets be honest, they can make phones with nice specs, and then there's those qualcomm chipsets that HTC put in the their phones, they're just awful, which kinda makes you consider buying samsung phones.
This is the exact reason I'm still using my N1 - normally I upgrade as soon as the next best phone is out, but the Nexus is just perfect. The build quality is amazing compared to any samsung phones.
And seriously, I'd miss the trackball too much.
With that said, I have a Galaxy Tab - and think thats great, but I don't carry that with me every day so the cheap plastic doesnt annoy me as much
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I think that samsung phones build quality is in general cheap, but lets be honest, they can make phones with nice specs, and then there's those qualcomm chipsets that HTC put in the their phones, they're just awful, which kinda makes you consider buying samsung phones.
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The snapdragon, even first gen, is not too shabby at all, and it beats the hummingbird in a lot of CPU tests. The advantage of hummingbird is the graphics. In fact, I think the nexus one was better at scrolling smoothly over the nexus s in most cases because graphics was not yet enabled on the S. CPU vs CPU the snapdragon seemed to out perform it imo.
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The snapdragon, even first gen, is not too shabby at all, and it beats the hummingbird in a lot of CPU tests. The advantage of hummingbird is the graphics. In fact, I think the nexus one was better at scrolling smoothly over the nexus s in most cases because graphics was not yet enabled on the S. CPU vs CPU the snapdragon seemed to out perform it imo.
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Well, to be honest I never used a the nexus s, here in Brasil is too expensive to get new devices, I used only the galaxy s, which I think is basically the same device, only in a different housing, and it was pretty fast. I used a Nexus One too, but obviously the roms were different (even though both were using cooked froyo roms) and I know experience may vary, but the galaxy s seemed much faster.
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What is up with Samsung and plastic? I know that they have one phone made of metal, but plastic gets so fingerprint prone.
I hope it is by Motorola, providing that they don't have a locked bootloader. They actually put dual noise canceling mics on their phone (Droid X), which is probably one of the most important thing on a smartphone.
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I'm sorry, but I can't agree with you about that MotoNexus crap. Only US of A can be happy with Motorola customer service and update policy... Ever heared of the Milestone? Yeah, Droid with GSM... Today it can only run stock 2.1 krenel because of MotoPLCY and locked bootloader. Rest of the world is so fcuking tired of hearing their craptalk that they would never buy a Moto device again! Well, Nexus phones are not ONLY American phones.
Also I actually don't like the idea of releasing Nexus devices by different manufacturer each year.. It just doesn't make sense for me. Google is a company not different from others, they count each dollar when it comes to spending money. N1 was a good compromise between cheap and technically good, htc made it that way as they did with desire. So... What's the point? Even if Mofofaila would bulid another Nexus (NX? They seem to like that letter) what would be nest? LG? ok, and then?
P.S. If anything what i wrote is unclear, tell me. It can happen, because english is not my native langueage
EDIT: BUT I agree about those dual mics. They do make a difference for me too!
+1 for dual mics
The call sound quality on the N1 and the Droid X are what attracted me to those two phones. In my opinion, it's a MUST HAVE feature and the single biggest reason I haven't bought a Nexus S.
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I'm sorry, but I can't agree with you about that MotoNexus crap. Only US of A can be happy with Motorola customer service and update policy... Ever heared of the Milestone? Yeah, Droid with GSM... Today it can only run stock 2.1 krenel because of MotoPLCY and locked bootloader. Rest of the world is so fcuking tired of hearing their craptalk that they would never buy a Moto device again! Well, Nexus phones are not ONLY American phones.
Also I actually don't like the idea of releasing Nexus devices by different manufacturer each year.. It just doesn't make sense for me. Google is a company not different from others, they count each dollar when it comes to spending money. N1 was a good compromise between cheap and technically good, htc made it that way as they did with desire. So... What's the point? Even if Mofofaila would bulid another Nexus (NX? They seem to like that letter) what would be nest? LG? ok, and then?
P.S. If anything what i wrote is unclear, tell me. It can happen, because english is not my native langueage
EDIT: BUT I agree about those dual mics. They do make a difference for me too!
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but remember, if Moto is making the next nexus, google will be the one controlling the software, not moto. moto shouldn't be able to lock the bootloader in the next nexus without google saying yes.

The next Nexus phone???

http://phandroid.com/2011/06/15/nex...handset-with-android-4-0-720p-display-rumors/
Doesn't really give me a warm and fuzzy feeling.
So E3D in June or this in December? I'd wait if this was confirmed and I didn't already have a preorder.
"It’s also possible that this device will just be the flagship/reference Ice Cream Sandwich device — just like the Motorola DROID and Motorola XOOM were for Android 2.0 and Android 3.0, respectively — and not a Google Nexus-branded product, so we’ll have to wait and see."
Doubt it will be a Nexus, I expect Google to abandon the nexus brand as there is no need for it anymore. Just as there really wasn't a Nexus 2.
I am still on the fence about the 3d or the Samsung Gs 2. From what I read 3d in June, Sammy in July.
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http://phandroid.com/2011/06/15/nex...handset-with-android-4-0-720p-display-rumors/
Doesn't really give me a warm and fuzzy feeling.
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careful your not talking about the EVO in the EVO forum rolfd might shut you down like he did someone else for talking about the EVO 3D here.
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"It’s also possible that this device will just be the flagship/reference Ice Cream Sandwich device — just like the Motorola DROID and Motorola XOOM were for Android 2.0 and Android 3.0, respectively — and not a Google Nexus-branded product, so we’ll have to wait and see."
Doubt it will be a Nexus, I expect Google to abandon the nexus brand as there is no need for it anymore. Just as there really wasn't a Nexus 2.
I am still on the fence about the 3d or the Samsung Gs 2. From what I read 3d in June, Sammy in July.
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The Nexus S is pretty much the "Nexus 2". There will almost without a doubt be another Nexus. Whether or not its a ICS launch phone is another matter - but one thing to keep in mind is that the original Nexus didn't launch any version of Android.
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The Nexus S is pretty much the "Nexus 2". There will almost without a doubt be another Nexus. Whether or not its a ICS launch phone is another matter - but one thing to keep in mind is that the original Nexus didn't launch any version of Android.
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Not sure I can agree. The Nexus 1 was directly supported by Google. The Nexus S needs to get its updates from Samsung.
That is what I would see as the real value of a "Nexus" device, who rolls the updates.
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Not sure I can agree. The Nexus 1 was directly supported by Google. The Nexus S needs to get its updates from Samsung.
That is what I would see as the real value of a "Nexus" device, who rolls the updates.
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nexus s gets updates from google as well
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Not sure I can agree. The Nexus 1 was directly supported by Google. The Nexus S needs to get its updates from Samsung.
That is what I would see as the real value of a "Nexus" device, who rolls the updates.
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Where did you read this? Any Nexus branded device is directly supported by google. This has and will always be the case.
"Google Talk with video and voice chat will gradually roll out to Nexus S devices in the next few weeks as part of the Android 2.3.4 over-the-air update and will launch on other Android 2.3+ devices in the future."
http://googlemobile.blogspot.com/2011/04/video-chat-on-your-android-phone.html
Proven wrong. I didn't think it was actually called a Nexus.
The nexus line of phones don't seem to be the "big kid on the block" anymore that sets the standard. More like your "meh" phone that just gets the Google updates first.
Well, to be fair, there's really only 2 devices to put that statement on. We'll see where the next Nexus device stands.
Well the nexus 1 I considered a powerhouse at the time, the nexus s is kinda low end on some things. The nexus 3 sounds like your typical 2011 smartphone, nothing to really drool over or consider selling a kidney over.
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Well the nexus 1 I considered a powerhouse at the time, the nexus s is kinda low end on some things. The nexus 3 sounds like your typical 2011 smartphone, nothing to really drool over or consider selling a kidney over.
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WTH are you talking about. these rumored speaks are way better than anything out now including the evo 3d. possible quad core or 28nm dual core plus a 720p display!
But what is with this Tegra 3 talk and the introductory ICS mentions? Heresay, sure. But I would like to think they make a bigger splash with that than a dual-core 'steady run of the mill' one. Then again, as said, the Nexus S was a little lackluster but it also didn't drop when there were any two-core phones, so I could see this being more real then them holding out for the four-core. Though, honestly. I hope the latter is true. A true powerhouse ICS offering. Time will tell.
But if it drops when things are starting to shift, like the last one, it would be a 'tad' disappointing. Not to suggest the phone couldn't be a beast. But still.
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New Nexus? What do you make of this?

http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news...r-google-nexus-4g-may-win-carriers-hearts.ars
Not sure what to think about this. Seems quick?
no?
NS was released late last year
N1 was released early last year
it was bound to happen.. but at least NS will be the second next phone to get ICS
Nexus One was released in January 2010, Nexus S was released in December 2010, so this seems in line with Nexus release dates, Holiday Season every year.
Says no front "buttons". I wonder how the software buttons is going to work.
Whose making it??
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Whose making it??
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Read a rumor that LG might make it, because they have experience with that form factor. I guess any company could adopt to it easily though.
zephiK said:
no?
NS was released late last year
N1 was released early last year
it was bound to happen.. but at least NS will be the second next phone to get ICS
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Guess you're right. Time flies. lol
I hope Samsung is making it again. I know people dislike them but I love their hardware.
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Guess you're right. Time flies. lol
I hope Samsung is making it again. I know people dislike them but I love their hardware.
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+1 they produce the best screens. I honestly don't know whats up with the hate with Samsung.
Who else is there?
LG: lol, we give stock and dont provide gingerbread updates (been almost a whole month). "stock" on carriers aren't really stock. 3rd choice.
Motorola: motoblur + bloat + locked bootloader
HTC: this is my second choice next to Samsung. even though they have said they're commited to not lock the bootloader anymore. i find it shady that they would even plan on locking the bootloader in the first place.
SE: not really producing any highend phones
Samsung: doesn't lock bootloader, easy to root etc. great hardware
my only complaint with Samsung are the plastic back covers, but I can deal with it after putting a case on.
people probably hate it because of TouchWiz. but if you don't use TouchWiz launcher (which many of us dont since we use ADW / LP) it's a great skin. it offers many features that are pretty nice.
The plastic battery cover angers me. It always creaks can't they make 2 version's. They can do it look at captivate now my screen creaks if I press the top part of screen it moves fml if they wanna compete with iPhone they need to step this up I really don't like HTC IMO there phones are garbage but damn least they put metal
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Hopefully HTC. Great build, software and hardware. Never had issues with them, now Samsung on the other hand.... The enjoy good thing about them is the screens .
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Hopefully not HTC. They already made the nexus 1. So maybe its time for another company to take the helm on this.
Why doesn't Google just make it themselves?
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Hopefully not HTC. They already made the nexus 1. So maybe its time for another company to take the helm on this.
Why doesn't Google just make it themselves?
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Because Google simply provides the software. Not the hardware. If they go towards the direction of making the phone.. well, that doesn't fit their profile. They would be purchasing things from Samsung Electronics anyway and the profit stream would be way less.
And it doesn't matter if the company has already done the Nexus phone. Everything isn't built off the idea that it's fair.
Oh hey guys, Samsung & HTC already did the Nexus phones. Let's give Huawei a chance to make the next nexus phone!
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I honestly don't know whats up with the hate with Samsung. Who else is there? LG: lol
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FWIW, my ranking would be:
HTC: decent hardware that works. I can't abide Sense nor their tendency to lock down stuff, but on a Nexus that wouldn't matter. The safe choice.
LG: their Android phones are actually really nice, even if the product lineup is a bit strange. Specced by Google, built by LG? Oh yes, please.
Huawei (or some other less well-known brand): A Nexus could give the brand a boost, thus boosting competition in the long run.
Samsung: They always manage to have great spec sheets, but also there's always something that doesn't work right or at all. See GPS on the SGS1, sound on the SGS2, GPS on the Nexus S and compass/accelerometer on basically any Samsung-built Android phone. Also they have obvious quality control issues.
S-E: Well, why not? I don't think they'd even be interested, though, control freaks that they are.
Motorola: No, thank you.
No not LG. I have owned a couple of LG phones and never ever have i been satisfied. I just dont associate LG with anything good.
I hope not LG. The G2x has been a disaster to say the least, returns like crazy on them. Everyone I know that had one has returned it..
HTC, makes IMO the best quality phones. The sensation is awesome with solid hardware! They know what their doing
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I hope not LG. The G2x has been a disaster to say the least, returns like crazy on them. Everyone I know that had one has returned it..
HTC, makes IMO the best quality phones. The sensation is awesome with solid hardware! They know what their doing
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Clearly not since they thought locking the bootloader was a great idea. Sure they listened to the community, nevertheless it was shady. At this time, bootloaders are still locked.
Not to mention, sense cripples android speed.ill stick to stock.
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Clearly not since they thought locking the bootloader was a great idea. Sure they listened to the community, nevertheless it was shady. At this time, bootloaders are still locked.
Not to mention, sense cripples android speed.ill stick to stock.
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If HTC (or any OEM for that matter) made the next Nexus phone Google would required them to make them hackable, since it will likely be a dev phone. So you don't need to worry about signed bootloaders if HTC makes the next Nexus.
Also, there are never custom skins (such as Sense) on Nexus phones. The Nexus phones are designed to be hardware benchmarks for stock Android software.
Personally, I think HTC would be a great hardware manufacturer for the next Nexus device. I miss the solid build quality of my Nexus One. That being said, Samsung's AMOLED screen on the NS is outstanding.
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If HTC (or any OEM for that matter) made the next Nexus phone Google would required them to make them hackable, since it will likely be a dev phone. So you don't need to worry about signed bootloaders if HTC makes the next Nexus.
Also, there are never custom skins (such as Sense) on Nexus phones. The Nexus phones are designed to be hardware benchmarks for stock Android software.
Personally, I think HTC would be a great hardware manufacturer for the next Nexus device. I miss the solid build quality of my Nexus One. That being said, Samsung's AMOLED screen on the NS is outstanding.
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No, not HTC again. My Nexus One already suffered from the dust issues and dead power button that I decided to just sell it after getting a replacement. HTC may make solid feeling builds but their phones almost always have build quality issues (the Sensation already has a dust issue).
If Samsung doesn't make it I will really miss the samoled screen. Unless LG decides to throw a retina busting display on it. makes you wonder what they mean by monster display, could just mean a 4.5 inch screen or a resolution that is unmatched. After all they are the ones that make the retina display.
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If HTC (or any OEM for that matter) made the next Nexus phone Google would required them to make them hackable, since it will likely be a dev phone. So you don't need to worry about signed bootloaders if HTC makes the next Nexus.
Also, there are never custom skins (such as Sense) on Nexus phones. The Nexus phones are designed to be hardware benchmarks for stock Android software.
Personally, I think HTC would be a great hardware manufacturer for the next Nexus device. I miss the solid build quality of my Nexus One. That being said, Samsung's AMOLED screen on the NS is outstanding.
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I'm not worried about "signed bootloaders." HTC has already commited themselves to unlocking the bootloaders on future phones and current phones that feature them. I've been on Android since the G1, so I'm aware of all this.
Again.. skins, I'm aware of this. I was speaking in general because there has been forum threads around the NS forum where people are headed towards "normal" phones such as Galaxy S2 & Sensation.
The build quality of Samsung phones are just as fine. The only complaint is the plastic backing. Other than that, its build is extraordinary. I personally just want Samsung to make it because the displays they offer are exclusive to their company and its just breathtaking. It would also feature Super AMOLED Plus or even their upcoming display thats even better than SAMOLED+. But I doubt it'd be in the Nexus 3 unless it can be ready by then,
http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/11/samsung-to-finally-roll-out-flexible-amoled-displays-for-public/

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