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Get the nexus one or wait for the HTC supersonic?

Idk what to do because new phones come out every 2 months that are better and make the previous models obsoletee! Should i get the nexus one or wait for the HTC supersonic? Do you think the nexus one will loose its value over the next 6 months if i decide to sell it?

sasha101 said:
Idk what to do because new phones come out every 2 months that are better and make the previous models obsoletee!
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I disagree; better models being released do not make a phone obsolete. Sure it means you're not on the bleeding edge of technology, but your nice new shiny phone will not degenerate into a piece of rusty scrap metal overnight. It will be a long time before these phones are obsolete.
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Should i get the nexus one or wait for the HTC supersonic?
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I can't answer this as a quick Google produces conflicting accounts regarding quality, what stage the phone is up to regarding development, etc.. The specs I've read are also "leaked" (see: subject to change or may not even be true at all).
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Do you think the nexus one will loose its value over the next 6 months if i decide to sell it?
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It wont lose all of its value, obviously, but it certainly can go down just a tiny bit in price. I'd say get a Nexus One and sell it when you're ready; just make sure you take care of it, keep all original boxes and manuals, all plastic wrappers and casings, etc so you can get the maximum amount of money possible for it.

sasha101 said:
Idk what to do because new phones come out every 2 months that are better and make the previous models obsoletee! Should i get the nexus one or wait for the HTC supersonic? Do you think the nexus one will loose its value over the next 6 months if i decide to sell it?
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no offense to you, sasha...
but do these types of posts ever cease here?
heheh...seriously...if your opinion is that a new, bigger, better phone will be out in 2 months, then perpetually wait for that phone! based on that statement, you'll never feel comfortable buying a new phone.
do yourself a favor...buy a nexus one, enjoy it, and when you're tired of it, buy a new one.

A phone backed exclusively by GOOGLE is not going to loose any value.
Any other phone is just that a new phone. But a phone sponsored by a company I.E apple (iphone) Palm (pre) Google (nexus One) etc. Fall into a different category.
At the end of the day people look at google and know their phone is the nexus one so that adds value to the device.
Plus i prefer to be backed by google all the way. This means that the moment a new release is out in the AOSP rep the google backed phone will have first dibs on it so youll always be up to date.
Perfect example is look at the htc devices and motorola. 2.1 Been out for q month now and the only phone with it officially is the nexus one.
The other devices are not making the leap to 2.1 till probably next month or april. T oeach its own but there is a difference between a FLAGSHIP company phone and just a Released updated phone.

please excuse my being ignorant... besides wimax, will supersonic support WCDMA&GSM I am totally an idiot about WiMax technology...

The bigger issue in my mind would be who in the modding community is going to support it.

sasha101 said:
Idk what to do because new phones come out every 2 months that are better and make the previous models obsoletee! Should i get the nexus one or wait for the HTC supersonic? Do you think the nexus one will loose its value over the next 6 months if i decide to sell it?
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The absolute BEST way to play this game is to buy the first phone that comes out on the market using the next best processor.
The N1 currently has the only Snapdragon processor on the market.
It will be 9-12 months before the next 3.7 inch (or larger) Android phone with the next best processor is released.
Nuff said.

I bought the Nexus One, because I like having the lastest coolest stuff available to me, ie Android 2.1. I don't think we'll be sitting around 6 months after Android 3.0 (or whatever release) waiting for Google to push us an update. After owning an iPhone since day one I realized hardware isn't everything (This applies to other devices & hardware as well) I think we'll have the latest features with the N1 for a very long time, if we don't it'll be hacked in under 30 days, ie Desire ROM.
I will say this about the N1, when I first received it I thought I made a mistake coming from the iPhone but after a month with the phone there is no way I could go back to that glorified VTech toy. Every issue or complaint I had about the phone has been addressed by either Google, Cyanogen or a third party developer. (Other than my palms continually touching the screen but a case fixed that)
But seriously, you're looking at phones like they are software. Always something new around the corner. Outside of IT stuff, my other passion is cars. When considering a phone, look at it like you would a car. There is always going to be something out there faster, nicer and more fuel efficient but that doesn't mean your current car isn't fast, fun to drive or even a "clunker" And don't take me the wrong way I'm not talking down or preaching I had a hard time getting over the idea of not having the "best phone" for at least the next year coming from the iPhone that had zero competition (IMO) for two years. I waited for the Nexus One because it can out do pretty much anything the iPhone can do but that doesn't make my old iPhone any less of a great phone (despite what I'm sure others in this forum have to say about it). But also like a car, do your research and be very sure of your decision because you're going to be stuck with it for a very long time (Owning a phone for 2 years is like owning a car for 5 or 6 years)
Hope that helps you make a decision!

i bought the Nexus One. more then likely i'll strongly consider buying the SuperSonic.
tis' the life of a phone geek. good thing you get back some of your money reselling i guess.

Get the Nexus & try it! Maybe you'll like it so much that you won't want to get rid of it so soon But if do, then just trade up

sasha101 said:
Idk what to do because new phones come out every 2 months that are better and make the previous models obsoletee! Should i get the nexus one or wait for the HTC supersonic? Do you think the nexus one will loose its value over the next 6 months if i decide to sell it?
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Depends on your situation. Supersonic means you have to be with Sprint, N1 means T-Mobile or ATT(w/o 3g). If you have prefer one over the other, choose your phone accordingly. Otherwise, getting N1 now isn't a bad idea if you want to be on the cutting edge.
Now, the downside of being on the cutting edge is that things don't always work smoothly. N1 even with the latest (beta?) radio rom still give me lots of dropped calls, touchscreen randomly borked, etc.. Not that I wasn't prepared for this, but it kinda surprised me to see these problem from Google. Maybe they should have just released it as BETA(tm).
I have a feeling that there are bugs to be weeded out with N1. While Google is 100% behind the handset, remember that this is actually their first handset. So don't expect smooth experience with N1.
As for losing value, I never really thought of that since I save all my old cellphones.

mushroom1 said:
Now, the downside of being on the cutting edge is that things don't always work smoothly. N1 even with the latest (beta?) radio rom still give me lots of dropped calls, touchscreen randomly borked, etc.. Not that I wasn't prepared for this, but it kinda surprised me to see these problem from Google. Maybe they should have just released it as BETA(tm).
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That's a Bummer! I have none of the issues you mention, and it's been super from day one!!

I believe that the Nexus One will have a much bigger hacker community than Supersonic.
If you can still wait until the Supersonic is out, you might as well wait for that time and see *all* your options in the market. Who knows? Maybe, Nexus One (or HTC Desire) will be cheaper by the time Supersonic is out or there's another great phone with nice specs and a huge dev community.
If you really can wait for so long, you might also want to consider waiting for Nexus Two.
If you can't wait for so long, buy the Nexus One now. Beside the hardware; the support from Google, HTC (especially because of the Desire ROM ports), and a huge community make Nexus One a winner.

The Nexus One seems to be the G1 when in comes to the developing community, and its popularity/all the Android newcomers. The G1 seems to get the most development of all the Android devices (judging from this place, always seem to be something going on over there with the G1). Despite it's design, and processor.. people do seem to love the G1, it even still seems to be going strong after its 2008 release too.
I assume the N1 will be the same ~.~ loved, and loved for long.

Eclair~ said:
The Nexus One seems to be the G1 when in comes to the developing community, and its popularity/all the Android newcomers. The G1 seems to get the most development of all the Android devices (judging from this place, always seem to be something going on over there with the G1). Despite it's design, and processor.. people do seem to love the G1, it even still seems to be going strong after its 2008 release too.
I assume the N1 will be the same ~.~ loved, and loved for long.
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Agreed. I used to get the newest and best of everything, now I stick to the ones with the best community - problems get fixed and new things get ported. The less widespread, but "newer" stuff usually has very little support.

Eclair~ said:
The Nexus One seems to be the G1 when in comes to the developing community, and its popularity/all the Android newcomers. The G1 seems to get the most development of all the Android devices (judging from this place, always seem to be something going on over there with the G1). Despite it's design, and processor.. people do seem to love the G1, it even still seems to be going strong after its 2008 release too.
I assume the N1 will be the same ~.~ loved, and loved for long.
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Agreed. It can't be pointed out enough that this is not only "Google Phone 1", but "Android Dev Phone 3." Every Android 2.1+ app will be proofed and bug tested on a N1.

xdaIf it's an HTC android device...why wouldn't it be a prominent device in the xda community ?

Paul22000 said:
The N1 currently has the only Snapdragon processor on the market.
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Actually the HTC HD2 has the snapdragon too and technically hit the market before the Nexus One.
Your theory is sound though. Buy a phone with the next step in technology and it will age slower. As everyone has said, phones are probably the fastest moving field of technology so there is always a better model just a couple of months away. Get something like a Nexus One that has good support from it's manufacturer, good support in the community, is still very new and will have good resale value and thats your best bet.

If 4G is important for you, wait for the supersonic. Otherwise, get N1 and enjoy it until the new HTC Olympian. I read this will be the android version of HD2!

how about wait for the HTC Hypersonic, I hear it allows you to travel in time ;-)

Nexus One. We're being phased out, and quickly.

NOW! I know it is possibly too early to jump to conclusions, but I have recently been reading through some posts about how our Nexus One's are slowly, sadly and surely becoming obsolete. I agree with this theory in the fact that we aren't getting any love/support anymore. Granted, i know that Froyo is on the way, but i feel as though our hardware could have been better from the get-go, and that now (starting to become the long run since launch) it will be the death of this phone on a large basis. I feel as though Google has left us behind with some major issues, and has crippled the Nexus One name, purely because they seem like they don't want to deal with it anymore. Support is limited at that, and updates are scarce (one update to be exact, and even that OTA had problems), even for non-root users. Development, even though sometimes a tedious task, is moving slowly. We have a small selections of stable roms and thats about it. Nothing super fantastic (granted CyanogenMod and Modaco's ROMS are great, but not legendary), nothing special. I feel like there was more support for the (i hate to bring it in) iPhone in terms of the community and the modding experience.
Simply, I absolutely LOVE my Nexus One, but i feel like it is not getting the support it deserves, and i DO NOT want this beautiful piece of technology to be obsolete by september. i hope you guys are with me on this, because i think we all know that this phone could easily be something BETTER than what it is now. and it SHOULD be able to compete with any phone within a year from now because it's Google's baby. GOOGLE: GIVE US MORE for our phones and for our money. Because, even though i feel like this is the best phone i've ever had, 1) i feel like it'll be obsolete in a few months and 2) im starting to feel like i wasted my money.
long live nexus

+1 .......

The Nexus one will be the standard by which all android phones are measured for at-least another year.
Keeping everything pure AOSP is a huge plus IMO.
Official updates are slow, but code is being committed to the repository regularly and makes it on to the custom ROMS very quickly.
There is no phone out there with better features and community support than the one you have
There is no other phone on google.com/phone... so we are still the only child.

Google is trying to catch up the rest of the android world to 2.1
VZ cut them off it seems from the N1 and instead VZ gets another great Android handset.
Froyo has some much needed upgrades and will help (in theory) android solidify itself by stabilizing the platform for devs.
JIT/Flash/Market /Open GL / market upgrades are on there way if you believe the rumors.
What is it you feel is being phased out ?
Only about 500k users have an N1. Thats a miniscule amount.
Even with that we have two great devs putting out some very stable ROMS. Unlike the past N1 came with so many damn features out of box that we didnt need ROMs and Apps to add the 101 missing features.
Listen I am still up in Googles rectum about alot of features that need to be fixed/enhanced on Android. We all knew N1 was the first of the snapdragons. The others are storming in blasting taking attention away from us...but theyre all on the same team....they all bleed green =-)
Sure Id love to be slapping on Sense widgets , Moto Blur social network apps , etc...but thats up to us as a community to do it (if ever technically possible).
Anyways feel good about your purchase. You still have the best available phone on the market and will until the EVO/Iphone4G drop. And even then..youd still be top 3 at worst.

There isn't much development because there isn't much to do. The Nexus has the latest firmware and top specs. Of announced phones only the Evo and Galaxy S have significantly better specs everything else is just a SLIGHTLY upgraded Nexus. No porting apps or firmwares are needed. The only thing to really do is optimize what we have (cyanogen is doing that) and port sense UI (Paul is doing that). I'm happy with my Nexus .....for now hehe

zach I can understand the complaints about some of the nagging issues the phone has had (3G, purple tint etc.) but two things we have to realize: A majority of the users don't experience these problems, and in no way is our phone going to be obsolete anytime soon.
Here is a post I made regarding the Incredible screen, I think it's relevant here:
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Here's my take:
Would I like to have this screen in my Nexus? Yea it would have been a nice feature. Do I need this screen? No, not in the slightest.. Not yet anyways. The only apps that would require a screen like that are games, and I don't play the type of games on my phone that would require axis-crossing multitouch. I know some people do, and I can respect that but I don't, hence why I don't care about this right now.
Frankly, if you're playing those kinds of games anyways, just get an iPhone (and I'm not saying that in a bad way). iPhone is unmatched when it comes to gameplay and plus you can get them all for free if you jailbreak. Yea The Incredible has a capable screen, but do you know long it's going to take Android to catch up to Apple when it comes to game quality?? Android just got games like Racing Thunder 2 and Homerun Battle 3D while you can play Street Fighter 4 and freaking Grand Theft Auto on the iPhone! It's no competition.. if you want to game, you don't have the right phone.
By the time Android actually starts developing games and apps that can take advantage of the axis crossing MT, The Incredible will be "obsolete" (as some of you like to put it) so no need for everyone to get their panties in a bunch
With most things I normally have a realist perspective and am usually the first to 'hate' on something when its deserved, but alot of you guys are just a bunch of downers. The Incredible is a great phone as is the Nexus, everyone should just appreciate what they have! If you keep chasing the newest technology (no matter how impractical it is) you will never be satisfied!
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There will always be new technology coming out faster than we can keep up with, the important thing is to not prematurely write one product off as soon as a newer one becomes available. People will be saying the same thing about the Incredible/4G Evo etc in a few months from now. That's just the ways things are. If you have that mentality you will want a new phone every few months regardless of how good it is.
Regarding the selection of ROMS.. Guys, right now we have the top of the line OS on our phones.. 2.1 is the standard, most of the G1/Magic ROMS are trying to replicate what we already have stock. Believe me, once Froyo and Android 3.0 come out the devs will be right on it and we'll get awesome ports. We have great developers who will make sure our phones have the newest software on our devices.
And if worst comes to worst and some of you decide to sell your Nexus this summer, it will have excellent resale value.

Don't worry, This is the phone Google are actively giving to developers. We'll be here for a while to come yet.

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I most definetely do not believe the nexus one will be phased out anytime soon, actually i will be ordering one tonight as a matter of fact. yes we may not have the best touch screens or the greatest rom develipment, but that is because we are still number one There are no other builds to even create until phones of this caliber runnng other os are on the scene. And for the touch screen issue, whe the time comes to where we truely need multitouch for games on the market out nexus's WILL be outdated, or there WILL be a fix for this, i mean geez Cyanogen has nearly finished a fully working Eclair for the g1 already, all i see is hope and excitment for the future of this device, the market also needs some serious time to catch up to apples games (please dont get upset with this, its true) The only thing i can see actually outdating our phones are dual processors capable of OVER 1.5 otherwise i dont believe they will be extinct, not even the 1.3 samsung will hurt the nexus i think considering we can be oc'ed to 1.3 anyways i do believe, or at least close

I don't think that we're being phased out, not until another year. Each phone that comes in the market gets compared to Nexus One.
As far as the development is concerned, its very satisfactory. Comparing the development scene between N1 an iPhone, iPhone sold nearly 50x the units of N1 sold. So most app developers have their focus on iPhone as it stands them a better chance of making more money..... But still development on N1 is much better.....

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There will always be new technology coming out faster than we can keep up with, the important thing is to not prematurely write one product off as soon as a newer one becomes available. People will be saying the same thing about the Incredible/4G Evo etc in a few months from now. That's just the ways things are. If you have that mentality you will want a new phone every few months regardless of how good it is.
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I’m beginning to think some people have never bought a phone before, or a computer for that matter.
Did people expect the N1 to the absolute top spec phone forever? Seriously its still amazing compared to most, and measures up nicely in all significant ways to these new phones it keeps getting compared to. Stop trying to bury it before its even close to dead.
There is always something newer coming. No exceptions. There are phones in development now that will top the Evo and Incredible. At some point you have to buy something or you’ll wait forever.
The N1 is Google’s flag ship phone. I bought it for that reason. If Google is developing something cool (like FroYo!) its pretty much guaranteed to come to us first. Its not being phased out. I think there are exciting things to come…

You have got to be kidding. Seriously?
zachthemaster said:
NOW! I know it is possibly too early to jump to conclusions, but I have recently been reading through some posts about how our Nexus One's are slowly, sadly and surely becoming obsolete. I agree with this theory
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How does the best Android phone currently on the market obsolete? You must be working from a totally different definition of "obsolete".
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in the fact that we aren't getting any love/support anymore.
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THAT must be why Google is giving Nexus Ones out to so many developers! Because they don't love it anymore and want to get rid of it!
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Granted, i know that Froyo is on the way, but i feel as though our hardware could have been better from the get-go, and that now (starting to become the long run since launch) it will be the death of this phone on a large basis.
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As if Froyo isn't a major undertaking.
In what way could the hardware have been better, without delaying the release of the phone?
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I feel as though Google has left us behind with some major issues, and has crippled the Nexus One name, purely because they seem like they don't want to deal with it anymore. Support is limited at that
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Are we talking about the same phone? In what way is it crippled?
Google has upped its support, hired more support personnel, and continues to present the N1 as its flagship phone. How does that equate to "they don't want to deal with it anymore"?
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and updates are scarce (one update to be exact, and even that OTA had problems), even for non-root users.
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How long has the N1 been out? Just how often did you expect an update? I think your expectations might be wildly unrealistic.
And "even for non-root users"!?! WTF does that mean? If anything, non-root users have far fewer updates -- rooted users are getting the updates from CM as soon as Google commits them to the source repository, whereas "even" implies that you expect non-root users to receive more updates, which is completely backwards.
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Development, even though sometimes a tedious task, is moving slowly. We have a small selections of stable roms and thats about it. Nothing super fantastic (granted CyanogenMod and Modaco's ROMS are great, but not legendary), nothing special.
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If you don't think CM is "super fantasic" then I invite you to go back to the stock N1 rom. Installing CM for the first time is like getting a whole new phone.
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I feel like there was more support for the (i hate to bring it in) iPhone in terms of the community and the modding experience.
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Somebody call the waaaaaaaaaahmbulance.

I don't buy it. I don't like the multitouch sensor they used for the phone, and I think the scrolling could be smoother, but what do you really expect from Google? Short of them sending out free hardware upgrades, what are you really looking for to not feel phased out?
The Nexus One is a great phone, at least for me. Even with the multitouch issues, I'm able to pull off running jumps when I play Super Mario World and the like. And that issue is allegedly being worked on with 2.2. If they flat out said the Nexus One wasn't getting 2.2 then you could make the claim of the Nexus One being phased out.
As far as network issues go, I have zero problems with my AT&T Nexus One and 3G. I live in the DC Metro area, for what it's worth. Most problems I've heard from people are all on T-Mobile. Who's to say the problem isn't on T-Mobile's side instead of Google's? Everyone blames AT&T's network for the iPhone's network issues, but it's pretty clear that the radio in the iPhone is garbage.
We live in a time where there are 1ghz processors in handheld devices. Technology is advancing so fast. It's always going to hurt when your $500+ dollar device isn't the best around anymore, but do you really want forward progress to slow down so you feel like you have the best phone longer?
I think you're being overly paranoid, if you ask me. So long as you love the phone, what do you care?

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You have got to be kidding. Seriously?
How does the best Android phone currently on the market obsolete? You must be working from a totally different definition of "obsolete".
THAT must be why Google is giving Nexus Ones out to so many developers! Because they don't love it anymore and want to get rid of it!
As if Froyo isn't a major undertaking.
In what way could the hardware have been better, without delaying the release of the phone?
Are we talking about the same phone? In what way is it crippled?
Google has upped its support, hired more support personnel, and continues to present the N1 as its flagship phone. How does that equate to "they don't want to deal with it anymore"?
How long has the N1 been out? Just how often did you expect an update? I think your expectations might be wildly unrealistic.
And "even for non-root users"!?! WTF does that mean? If anything, non-root users have far fewer updates -- rooted users are getting the updates from CM as soon as Google commits them to the source repository, whereas "even" implies that you expect non-root users to receive more updates, which is completely backwards.
If you don't think CM is "super fantasic" then I invite you to go back to the stock N1 rom. Installing CM for the first time is like getting a whole new phone.
Somebody call the waaaaaaaaaahmbulance.
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I didn't wanna quote the whole thing (sorry everyone) but this is the post of the year IMO!!!! Every counter argument you made is perfect.....This thread is BOGUS!!!!!!

You can't compare the modding/dev community of the N1 to the iPhone anyways.
The iphone has FAR more units out there, and the Apple cult is still buying. The iPhone also has more that is needed as far as mods to make it a nice OS.
The iPhone also runs native binaries, so there seem to be a lot more standard systems written for it, or so I was told in my Q&A thread. The iPhone has full apt packaging system, full set of GNU tools, full OpenSSH suite, etc.
The iPhone also has a lot more core teams of dedicated modders, while Android seems to have 1-2, at least for the N1. This is, again, I think due to the fact that the iPhone needs more mods to make it a good OS.

Without boobs, this thread is a waste of time.

Not even boobs can rescue the OP's post.

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I didn't wanna quote the whole thing (sorry everyone) but this is the post of the year IMO!!!! Every counter argument you made is perfect.....This thread is BOGUS!!!!!!
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Without boobs, this thread is a waste of time.
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I agree wholeheartedly with both of you.

zachthemaster said:
NOW! I know it is possibly too early to jump to conclusions, but I have recently been reading through some posts about how our Nexus One's are slowly, sadly and surely becoming obsolete.
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Can you link these posts?
How is the N1 becoming obsolete? What are your reasons? I have yet to see any indication of this.
updates are scarce (one update to be exact, and even that OTA had problems), even for non-root users.
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What kind of crap is this? Yes, the N1 has received 1 update. Which is 1 more than MANY other Android phones in YEARS.
Development, even though sometimes a tedious task, is moving slowly.
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Here's the Android source code:
http://android.git.kernel.org/
Get to work!
GOOGLE: GIVE US MORE for our phones and for our money
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Give more WHAT?

Enjoy the wave for as long as it lasts... which will be a long time
Tech wise phones go obsolete much faster than a PC ever would for the simple fact that you are in a closed environment. You can't upgrade the RAM, graphics or CPU on one of these things so shelf life is in terms of months not years. But that's not to say that support will go away for the N1 any time soon. OP is just acknowledging/exhibiting the mid-life crisis that the N1 is in currently. It's still the flagship product and a benchmark for every phone slated to be released this year. Next year may be different--hell I'm sure it will be--but for now, we're good and there's enough power that it'll still be viable 2 years from now. If you need a current tangible example, just look at how many G1's there are out there and how long that phone has been out.
I came from the dismally dysfunctional land of the Epix from Samsung where between them and AT&T, they couldn't figure out who was suppose to be doing the obligatory reach-around. With the N1 there are no more worries about the carrier holding up the updates for a fix to a major problem introduced by another fix almost a year prior for an infantile notification issue., there are no more issues with contractual obilgations to corporate partnerships (Yahoo) with draconian imposed restrictions to enforce it(backflip) and mostly there's no more waiting for the mfg to finally update their license to a newer version OS if they even bother going that route to begin with. Open architecture, open software and an infinite amount of potential for old and new phones is why I'm here and I'm sure a bunch of others are too.
So to anyone else reading this and especially to Sprint customers that are waiting for the N1, catch the wave however you want(N1, Evo, etc) but enjoy it for what it is--a long great ride and loads of fun--cowabunga!

Did somebody say boobs? Er, was I supposed to get something else out of this?

From n1 to g2 and back. Anyone else?

So I've had my n1 (two actually, claimed insurance on first one cuz I accidentally smashed it) since its release. Got the g2 on oct4 (west coast early store sell) and today I've decided to return the g2.
I love the keyboard but I'm faster on my nexus one with smart keyboard pro. Battery life is better on my nexus (I think fixed in ota). The g2 did feel snappier overall even with a stock rom, and browsing was in a different league!
Don't get me wrong the g2 is better in every way but not much better. Not enough to warrant $499+tax. If I was upgrading from g1 with full $200 upgrade yes.
I also kept posting my n1 on Craigslist with the dock and kept blowing off buyers. Somehow I could not part with my nexus. I guess I love this phone TOO much. Anyone else have a similar story?
Sent from my sexy nexy with XDA app.

I cheated on my Nexus One with an Hd2 when I thought I could use Android on it... Boy was that a huge mistake!
I def learned my lesson, no more non-developer phones... EVER!!!
Nexus One is the perfect phone for me. It does everything I need perfectly:
- Google Maps Navigation
- Free tethering
- Instant Google Voice text msg notifications
- Free unlimited calls through gizmo/google voice
- Emulators + Bluetooth wiimote support
- DolphinHD browser
- Color trackball notifications
- Voice dictation
- Great Tmobile / HTC customer service
- Updates directly from Google
- Beautiful thin design that doesn't make me look like I have an erection in my front pocket due to a unnecessary hardware keyboard

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So I've had my n1 (two actually, claimed insurance on first one cuz I accidentally smashed it) since its release. Got the g2 on oct4 (west coast early store sell) and today I've decided to return the g2.
I love the keyboard but I'm faster on my nexus one with smart keyboard pro. Battery life is better on my nexus (I think fixed in ota). The g2 did feel snappier overall even with a stock rom, and browsing was in a different league!
Don't get me wrong the g2 is better in every way but not much better. Not enough to warrant $499+tax. If I was upgrading from g1 with full $200 upgrade yes.
I also kept posting my n1 on Craigslist with the dock and kept blowing off buyers. Somehow I could not part with my nexus. I guess I love this phone TOO much. Anyone else have a similar story?
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I did the exact same thing, paid the full 500 and everything. Had my nexus one from march till now, it's been REAL good to me. Got the G2 Oct 6 and returned it today. Definitely nothing wrong with it but like you said, i feel it's not much better, but it's really a nice phone(build quality and everything), on par with the N1. The lady said they wanted to bring the nexus one in-store since so many people ask for it, but its a no go..definitely luv my Nexus One.

Us n1s are rare now... I got phone jealousy from the vibrant but not anymore. I thought the iphone 4 would give me a little tug seeing as I use to be 3gs user.. But I walked in the store picked it up, laughed, and walked away... Compare a picture on the two lol
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I thought about going to a galaxys, for the gpu jump. But I wasn't convinced (still not), that it was worth the effort.
For me, there's no real upgrade options until dual-core.

Why you'd sell a phone that its software are in the mature stage for something new?
I bought a vibrant just to play around and the phone sucks, i mean hardware is great but when you look at the dev's forum for the phone you hardly find anything. Only fixes and half baked roms, however the fault is not the community but samsung for being slow and asshats about releasing updates for their phones.
From now on i'd get a phone may be 5 or 6 months after its initial release because i can see how the software has matured for the phone as well as a considerable drop in price.
To me android is a worthless operating system fresh from the carriers because is just full of bloat and limitations, without the community android would be just another big FAIL imo.
So going back to the G2 i think is still too early, while n1 owners enjoy the software stability and new releases, the G2 owners still wait for propper root or samsung galaxy s owners are waiting for 2.2 which is sad.

greenstuffs said:
Why you'd sell a phone that its software are in the mature stage for something new?
I bought a vibrant just to play around and the phone sucks, i mean hardware is great but when you look at the dev's forum for the phone you hardly find anything. Only fixes and half baked roms, however the fault is not the community but samsung for being slow and asshats about releasing updates for their phones.
From now on i'd get a phone may be 5 or 6 months after its initial release because i can see how the software has matured for the phone as well as a considerable drop in price.
To me android is a worthless operating system fresh from the carriers because is just full of bloat and limitations, without the community android would be just another big FAIL imo.
So going back to the G2 i think is still too early, while n1 owners enjoy the software stability and new releases, the G2 owners still wait for propper root or samsung galaxy s owners are waiting for 2.2 which is sad.
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I agree with how people should wait a few months AFTER the phone is released to think about purchasing. Heck, that's true for ALL electronics. Let the other guys discover all the potential problems and then I'll decide if it's worth it. In the case of my N1... 100% worth it.

You lot disappoint me. I would never cheat on my nexus.
-Sent from my Nexus One Superphone.

I have thought about switching the G2 countless times, but in the end, I just couldnt justify the 500+ for the G2 or leaving my N1.
The G2 is really an updated N1, but the added bulk of the physical keyboard really turned me off. I am going to wait til there is something like the N1 with a 4 inch+ screen.

No point in a G2 unless you want the keyboard.
I tested it out in store and was massively disappointed. I'm faster with Swype.
Not only that but with people reporting hinge problems... Blech. Even if you don't have hinge problems, the added mechanism as opposed to a slate device means more room for hardware issues/failure 6+ months into owning the phone. A slate phone means as long as you don't drop it, no hardware will break.
Also I tested an embedded Flash video in the browser and it stuttered just like my N1. I guess I'll have to wait until the 3rd gen Adreno GPUs (220) to make an upgrade on that front.

Returned mine in 2days

Can someone post experience on hd2 running android? I'm thinking of doing this because I want the 4.3 screen. I have friend that use hd2 with android but couldn't compare to n1 since he doesn't have it.

zizoty said:
Can someone post experience on hd2 running android? I'm thinking of doing this because I want the 4.3 screen. I have friend that use hd2 with android but couldn't compare to n1 since he doesn't have it.
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http://androidforums.com/nexus-one/...uld-i-have-ever-cheated-my-nexus-one-hd2.html
My opinion... DONT do it. After using a Nexus One for so long I can honestly tell you the Hd2 runs android like crap.

ChongoDroid said:
Us n1s are rare now... I got phone jealousy from the vibrant but not anymore. I thought the iphone 4 would give me a little tug seeing as I use to be 3gs user.. But I walked in the store picked it up, laughed, and walked away... Compare a picture on the two lol
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I too was shockingly unimpressed by the iPhone 4....good phone, sure...but sea of icons? nah...I need my widgets and uber customization....another reason I can't see myself going WinPho 7 despite the fact that I REALLY like the look of it.

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I too was shockingly unimpressed by the iPhone 4....good phone, sure...but sea of icons? nah...I need my widgets and uber customization....another reason I can't see myself going WinPho 7 despite the fact that I REALLY like the look of it.
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You can not go from an Android to Iphone especially if you've never used an Iphone. You can go from iphone to android though. The reason why is you take things forgranted with Android that Iphone doesn't do, simple things such as ring tones and alerts sounds.
To original topic the N1 rules, g2 drools

I have my Nexus One sitting proudly on my desk sitting in it's dock playing music channeled into my boss stereo. It sounds freaken fantastic. I also went out and bought the G2 thinking I was missing out on something new and fresh. The only thing I see that is a major plus is the memory. I rarely use the keyboard, use Vlingo for just about all entries into both devices. I'm going to probably keep the G2 but will never give my Nexus One away.. I honestly have not seen a better looking, quality built phone. The extras that you can buy for it and the endless tinkering that you can do. Yep, I love that damn phone, sorry honey go to bed, the Nexus and I are up doing some tinkering.

You guys just made my day with your comments about the N1 ! I ordered one a few days ago - it is unfortunately B/O and I should get it in a few days.
I was also considering the Samsung Galaxy X and I am glad I chose the N1. Froyo was released for the Galaxy yesterday - after a long wait to get the latest version of Android, the users quickly found that the major GPS and lag problems are still present. Beautiful specs on paper... on paper only !

Wow
I just ordered one that will be here on Monday and I'm gettin really excited reading the posts here have had a backflip (was a bad joke lol) now i have the htc aria, its a decent phone, but will have the N1 Monday. Thanks for all the insight and help from the site.

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I def learned my lesson, no more non-developer phones... EVER!!!
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Well said, this is my philosophy also.

chaoss1968 said:
I just ordered one that will be here on Monday and I'm gettin really excited reading the posts here have had a backflip (was a bad joke lol) now i have the htc aria, its a decent phone, but will have the N1 Monday. Thanks for all the insight and help from the site.
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Congrats! N1 is pretty sick stock, its almost impossible to replace customized. Google phones ftw
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Future Development

With the Nexus S coming out and phones should be out in the next few months which will start making the Nexus One look old.
I bought the Nexus One because it did not include a manufacturer UI i did not want, it had good reviews, it was the official development phone, and it is easy to customize.
If people move on to something new I want to move on too.
How long will people, programmers, developers spend time on the Nexus One?

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With the Nexus S coming out and phones should be out in the next few months which will start making the Nexus One look old.
I bought the Nexus One because it did not include a manufacturer UI i did not want, it had good reviews, it was the official development phone, and it is easy to customize.
If people move on to something new I want to move on too.
How long will people, programmers, developers spend time on the Nexus One?
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people still build for the G1...I'm sure the N1 is fine.

You're making a fuss over nothing.
Sure some people will move on to the Nexus S, but this means absolutely nothing as far as development time and effort is concerned. You forget that the Nexus One is far from old or obsolete yet - I personally would go as far as to say that it's still the best Android phone out there to date.
As AbsoluteDesignz pointed out above, there are still some people (a very fair number) working on the G1. Apps are still being made that support it, I'm not sure about ROMs but I'm guessing there's a fair few.
The Nexus One is not going to suddenly become irrelevant any time soon.

The Nexus S really won't make the N1 look old.
Plus the N1 is Google's official development phone.
The N1 isn't going any where.

The nexus one IS old.

JCopernicus said:
The nexus one IS old.
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I agree that the nexus one is old in terms of the mobile industry, but it is far from being outdated.

JCopernicus said:
The nexus one IS old.
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In what sense? And I am asking this as of 11-18-10.
Because it is the only phone natively running 2.2.1?
Because it WILL BE THE FIRST PHONE to have gingerbread.
Maybe its hardware is not the absolute best,
but there are phones that have come out after it with less impressive specs.
I would argue that (except maybe the G2) there is no phone that better utilizes Froyo's abilities than the N1. Because most phones come with bloatware and other garbage. And other phones have imho an incomplete version of froyo. (I'm talking pre root)

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In what sense? And I am asking this as of 11-18-10.
Because it is the only phone natively running 2.2.1?
Because it WILL BE THE FIRST PHONE to have gingerbread.
Maybe its hardware is not the absolute best,
but there are phones that have come out after it with less impressive specs.
I would argue that (except maybe the G2) there is no phone that better utilizes Froyo's abilities than the N1. Because most phones come with bloatware and other garbage. And other phones have imho an incomplete version of froyo. (I'm talking pre root)
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I love qualifiers. lol

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I love qualifiers. lol
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Don't get me wrong, even though I defend the N1. I'll be the first one trying to get a Nexus S when it comes out.

AstroDigital said:
With the Nexus S coming out and phones should be out in the next few months which will start making the Nexus One look old.
I bought the Nexus One because it did not include a manufacturer UI i did not want, it had good reviews, it was the official development phone, and it is easy to customize.
If people move on to something new I want to move on too.
How long will people, programmers, developers spend time on the Nexus One?
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Aside from the N1 still getting developed for, HAVE YOU SEEN THE NEXUS S? Aesthetically, it comes nowhere NEAR the N1. One of the major reasons I sprung the full retail price for the N1 was the design which has, imho, still had trouble being surpassed.
The Nexus S and most other Galaxy S phones feel cheap and plastic-ey, which is a reason why I never purchased one. It feels as though one drop would destroy it.
In terms of specs, look at the N1 compared to other phones now. When It came out, it DOMINATED the mobile phone market, and now it's falling behind. Same will happen with Nexus S in less than a year
tl;dr - its ugly and will be outdated in like 6 months. Boo friggin hoo.

The nexus one is a high quality work of art compared to these new galaxy and nexus s phones. I'm sticking with my nexus 1 for now. It's just too solid and beautiful. And its specs are still fine in Today's mobile world.

i dont know...

So, I have been playijg around with my new Nexus S for a few hours and have everything loaded up like before. It's an awesome phone, just not surs ifbit is a $500 upgrade from the Nexus One that I currently own. My biggest issue is the limilted memory... with 12 gigs of music, my work files and others- I think I will run out soon, I am guessing they come out with a 32 gig before long. I will hang on to this and see how my N1 performs with GB. I really don't need a front facing camera or NFC chip. But I must admit, this thing is great and really flies! Anyone else having second thought?

It's disappointing that Google is going the Steve Jobs way trying to control what we can or can't do with our phones. I prefer my Nexus one 1000 times over this mediocre-half-ass attempt of a phone. I'll wait for Google to try again next year and bring back the tracking ball, memory slot, and a metallic casing instead of the plasticky one.
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It's disappointing that Google is going the Steve Jobs way trying to control what we can or can't do with our phones.
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Yeah, I don't really see the Google Walled Garden. You'll have to explain.

I am almost positive there will be a Nexus-M by Motorola, they really want in on the Nexus name I have heard. Might be called the Nexus-3.0 and released after Honeycomb comes out, but that's just rumors I have heard. I thought Moto was gonna get the Nexus-2 before Samsung got involved, so I am sure they are working on a Nexus phone for release in 2011.
Right now, today, the Nexus-S is the best Android phone on the market, if you want pure Android, with no carrier bloatware, and no branding crap like Sense or Touchwiz, and you just need to root this phone to make it bad ass, no real need for a custom rom like C 6.1.
I would not want the first dual core phone to market anyways, let them work out the kinks and bugs first, and I'll take the second round of dual core phones. Will give them time to really optimize Android for dual core after the 2nd gen is out.

I think the OP was asking if you have actually bought the phone are you having second thoughts.

To go from a Nexus One to a Nexus S and call it an upgrade is an oxymoron. To pay money and get a phone with less features is unwise. Gingerbread is coming to the Nexus One anyway.
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To go from a Nexus One to a Nexus S and call it an upgrade is an oxymoron. To pay money and get a phone with less features is unwise.
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Where does Google say it's an upgrade? Link, please.
If you're just whining because the Nexus S doesn't have all the features that you want, then please stop. Go somewhere else and start your own thread, where you can complain all you want that the phone doesn't have a Jet Pack or a Rocket Launcher.

calin75 said:
It's disappointing that Google is going the Steve Jobs way trying to control what we can or can't do with our phones. I prefer my Nexus one 1000 times over this mediocre-half-ass attempt of a phone. I'll wait for Google to try again next year and bring back the tracking ball, memory slot, and a metallic casing instead of the plasticky one.
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It's hardly the same thing. Sure, Google may have taken out a couple features that you find important, but they are definitely not controlling anything. These decisions ONLY affect the Nexus S. The MANY other Android phones are not affected. So if you want a trackball and expandable memory, you can very well have that. Just buy a different phone. Apple on the other hand, prevents this freedom since the iPhone is the only available iOS phone.

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Where does Google say it's an upgrade? Link, please.
If you're just whining because the Nexus S doesn't have all the features that you want, then please stop. Go somewhere else and start your own thread, where you can complain all you want that the phone doesn't have a Jet Pack or a Rocket Launcher.
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This is a forum for people to share their opinions. If you really like the Nexus S, you shouldn't get mad if others don't. Go buy one, enjoy it and move on. But try to understand that different people use their phones differently.
For me, the lack of SD storage is a deal breaker. Like the OP, I have easily over 12GB of music that I load on my phones. I don't want to carry an MP3 player on top of my cellphone. Nexus S's lack of SD slot leaves me with very limited space for my other data (work emails, apps, pictures and clips that I shoot, and so on). Having said that, I could see how this wouldn't be an issue for someone who doesn't fill up their phone.
Secondly, no matter how you spin it, the hardware is not a noticeable step ahead from the Nexus One, or the myTouch 4G. The S has a 1GHz processor and so do a whole slew of phones by Samsung and other manufacturers.
Thirdly, the Nexus S doesn't utilize TMO's HSPA+ network. Again, this may not be a big deal for somebody who doesn't do heavy data on their phone. But I do, and I happen to live in an area where TMO's "4G" network works extremely well. I definitely consider going from HSPA+ back to "3G" a downgrade. You may not share that view...
Basically, the only selling point for the S is Gingerbread. Based on certain information I have, the MT4G is highly likely to get a 2.3 update on the other side of the year. A minor OS update isn't enough to convince me to buy this phone.
As for your "upgrade" comment, technology is expected to get better over time. It's just the way it works. Google doesn't need to hold a press conference event to tell us whether this phone is an upgrade over a phone released nearly a year ago. That is expected to be the case.

Removed by me

I think the Nexus phones are Google's iPhone. It is untouched by Carrier bloatware, and untouched by phone brand UI's. This is the "pure" Android experience, sort of how iPhone is the "pure" Apple phone experience, but they only have one phone anyways, so sort of hard to compare, but you get my drift.
Is the Nexus-S gonna be the top dog hardware, no. But it will always be up to date with the current OS, and not really needing any custom roms, just a root. Sure in two months from now, there will be dual cores etc...but they will also have Moto blur, or TouchWiz, or Sense UI, and then have Verizon Bing search, or ATT crap ware. I like the virgin Nexus, even if she is a little slower
Every Christmas time there will be a new Nexus, running the latest OS, sort of like every summer there is a new iPhone. I hope this keeps going.

Zorachus said:
Sure in two months from now, there will be dual cores etc...but they will also have Moto blur, or TouchWiz, or Sense UI, and then have Verizon Bing search, or ATT crap ware.
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even if there is, until android is written to support it, and the apps are as well, having an extra core will be useless.
I'm going to sit on my n1 until a dual core dev phone is released. By that point, my n1 will be at the same hardware comparison with the new phone that my g1 was with the n1

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even if there is, until android is written to support it, and the apps are as well, having an extra core will be useless.
I'm going to sit on my n1 until a dual core dev phone is released. By that point, my n1 will be at the same hardware comparison with the new phone that my g1 was with the n1
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Agreed, I would not want to be beta tester on the first gen of dual core phones, could be buggy, or could not offer any performance gains until the Android OS is totally ready for it . Now a dual core Nexus development phone would be nice.

Probably going to return mine
This phone is nice, but I really don't c much performance upgrade over my Nexus One. When I tried to watch some flash videos, it was just as choppy as my Nexus One...I was very disappointed. I think right before the remorse period is over I will return the phone and go back to my N1.

I visited Best Buy during lunch and got to play with a demo unit. The first impression is that the phone feels cheap. Yes, we've read about this many times in reviews, but I don't think one realizes it until one has it in their hands. It feels like a toy. And for whatever reason, it feels cheaper than the Vibrant; maybe because of expectations (Nexus branding and all)? I don't know. In some ways, the Vibrant's cheapness still feels like quality.
Granted, I was only using it for no more than 5 minutes, I was quite underwhelmed. Gingerbread sure is smooth, though.

Driving home with mine right now. 30 day return policy with no restocking fee. Ill see how gb does on my nexus one also and if I find any buyers. If gb flies on n1 and no buyers ill return. Can't wait to get home and charge it then wait till its done before I use. Fffuuuuuuu
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I too am underwhelmed with the device so far. Oh yes it is fast and smooth but I am getting Fc's and some have to do with the GPS which does concern me. My GPS has been spotty so far and I still recall the torture with the Vibrant's GPS. Also Market has not updated to the new market. I thought GB would include that for sure(perhaps it is not actually released yet although I have it on my Vibrant. I do like the feel of the phone though. It is heavier to me than the Vibrant or the MT4G

... Like 2 dicks and no *****, Samsung and Android don't mix.
Sorry but that's just the god's honest truth.

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I too am underwhelmed with the device so far. Oh yes it is fast and smooth but I am getting Fc's and some have to do with the GPS which does concern me. My GPS has been spotty so far and I still recall the torture with the Vibrant's GPS. Also Market has not updated to the new market. I thought GB would include that for sure(perhaps it is not actually released yet although I have it on my Vibrant. I do like the feel of the phone though. It is heavier to me than the Vibrant or the MT4G
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If you're getting FC's out of the box, do a full reset of the phone. If it keeps doing it even afterwards, then exchange it.

This is my first Samsung device and I disagree with the folks saying that it feels cheap or like a toy. My only complaint about it's build quality after having played with it for the last several hours is that I wish they had used some rubberized texture coating or something because the phone is pretty slick.
I'm sure I'll get used to it though and adjust my grip accordingly.
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... Like 2 dicks and no *****, Samsung and Android don't mix.
Sorry but that's just the god's honest truth.
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LOL I'm writing that one down.