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Well...It's been fun guys.. (Switching N1 for Epic)

I love my Nexus One. It was my introduction to android and boy, was it a good one. I sold my iPhone 3gs for it and never looked backed. One thing has been nagging at me all the while though.
While I love my N1 and agree it is a power house of a phone, the multitouch issues just drive me nuts.
I love gaming on a phone, and while android isn't known for its amazing games like iDevices (c'mon, we all know this) all I can really get out of it is emulation. With the N1's bad multitouch problems, its hard as heck to play anything decent. So I decided I'm jumping the N1 ship and switching to the epic.
So, post in this thread if you, like me, are deciding to switch to another android device, and what's your reason.
Hito

So long as your still an Android lol
The Epic looks nice, but im not a Sprint guy
See you at the next Dev Phone

Aside from the better multitouch, I'm sure you'll also appreciate the better GPU. Congrats on the good choice of upgrades.

For me? Personally? Multi-touch is a TAD bit sketch sometimes But honestly? I have an Xbox 360 for my gaming needs.. iPhone games are nice and cool and good looking (especially on iPhone 4) but it's a terrible OS. and I dislike sprint.
I just got a Nexus One today again, after not having one for a month and i am so happy. I'd rather have the phone do things like tether and torrent and BE PRODUCTIVE rather thank play games on it. And sure, every now and again i do play games so i have emulators and knock-off tetris'. IMO

zachthemaster said:
For me? Personally? Multi-touch is a TAD bit sketch sometimes But honestly? I have an Xbox 360 for my gaming needs.. iPhone games are nice and cool and good looking (especially on iPhone 4) but it's a terrible OS. and I dislike sprint.
I just got a Nexus One today again, after not having one for a month and i am so happy. I'd rather have the phone do things like tether and torrent and BE PRODUCTIVE rather thank play games on it. And sure, every now and again i do play games so i have emulators and knock-off tetris'. IMO
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Great choice, I have a vibrant and a n1, and im gonna say I wont pick my n1 up again till it gets gingerbread, and even then.
The sgs is awesome for gaming. The gpu is Amazimg. Its so nice to have proper Multitouch, if the n1s MT was better it would have been so much nicer.
Congratulations and you will love it as much as I love my vibrant I'm sure .

Hitorii said:
I love my Nexus One. It was my introduction to android and boy, was it a good one. I sold my iPhone 3gs for it and never looked backed. One thing has been nagging at me all the while though.
While I love my N1 and agree it is a power house of a phone, the multitouch issues just drive me nuts.
I love gaming on a phone, and while android isn't known for its amazing games like iDevices (c'mon, we all know this) all I can really get out of it is emulation. With the N1's bad multitouch problems, its hard as heck to play anything decent. So I decided I'm jumping the N1 ship and switching to the epic.
So, post in this thread if you, like me, are deciding to switch to another android device, and what's your reason.
Hito
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How are you making the switch?
Breaking T-Mobile/AT&T contract?

Paul22000 said:
How are you making the switch?
Breaking T-Mobile/AT&T contract?
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I'm contract free on T-mobile but I just don't find it necessary to keep the N1 as it isn't usable on CDMA networks, thus we are parting ways. =(
And yes, I I'm forever sticking with android. It's truly amazing how freedom really feels. XD
Hito

Hitorii said:
And yes, I I'm forever sticking with android. It's truly amazing how freedom really feels. XD
Hito
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Unless you're on an ATT android device.
Lolwut?

MaximReapage said:
Unless you're on an ATT android device.
Lolwut?
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Touche
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How much are you selling your N1 for?

I'm buying a G2 on preorder (if that ever happens). If not, getting it the first day.
I never really liked keyboards on a phone, that's why I took back my MT3GSlide and ordered a nexus. IMO it just makes the product bulkier. But the G2 is almost like a nexus with a hidden keyboard...And a brand new processor.
But that's still just a dream, until they "reveal" it. I'm starting to think leaking is a new advertising technique lol.
And I'll still keep the N1 for ****s and giggles, it is a dev phone after all

uansari1 said:
How much are you selling your N1 for?
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Just sold a few hours ago. It was priced at $380. It has a scratch on the back cover and a scuff on the bottom antennae cover as well as wear on the right side of the casing. It was for t-mobile with boot loader unlocked, so I say that is more than a fair price.

wdfowty said:
I'm buying a G2 on preorder (if that ever happens). If not, getting it the first day.
I never really liked keyboards on a phone, that's why I took back my MT3GSlide and ordered a nexus. IMO it just makes the product bulkier. But the G2 is almost like a nexus with a hidden keyboard...And a brand new processor.
But that's still just a dream, until they "reveal" it. I'm starting to think leaking is a new advertising technique lol.
And I'll still keep the N1 for ****s and giggles, it is a dev phone after all
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Same here G2 looks to be a Nexus with a keyboard! (although im also hoping to get a galaxy tab )

Hitorii said:
Just sold a few hours ago. It was priced at $380. It has a scratch on the back cover and a scuff on the bottom antennae cover as well as wear on the right side of the casing. It was for t-mobile with boot loader unlocked, so I say that is more than a fair price.
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Definitely a fair price given the condition. Good luck with the Epic man... I was tempted to switch to Spring, but I just can't stomach the thought of not being able to easily switch phones around.

Why not the vibrant? If your a gamer I guess its the right phone for you. However you will miss your n1. I bought a captivate used it for a 1 1/2 month and returned it. I am not a gamer. I need to multi task. Of captivate was nice but not for me. I was able to do more on my n1 and it was nice to have froyo. I might wait for galaxy tab though. That looks nice. Well have fun with a new device. Its always fun getting a new toy.
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sl8125 said:
Why not the vibrant? If your a gamer I guess its the right phone for you. However you will miss your n1. I bought a captivate used it for a 1 1/2 month and returned it. I am not a gamer. I need to multi task. Of captivate was nice but not for me. I was able to do more on my n1 and it was nice to have froyo. I might wait for galaxy tab though. That looks nice. Well have fun with a new device. Its always fun getting a new toy.
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I thought about it, but I really miss keyboards for emulation. The cliq was horrible! The bulk never bothers me as I never pocket a phone anyway. I already miss my N1, but that's because I don't have an android replacement yet ! XD.
Another reason is the Dev community. While the N1 community trumps nearly any other with great guys such as in this thread, I feel that with the galaxy S line will do what the N1 was supposed to do, but never got the chance, and that's going to all major US carriers. So my hopes are that this will bring out a great community hopefully like that of the N1.
Also my iPad is up on eBay so I can buy an android tab....

i dont know...

So, I have been playijg around with my new Nexus S for a few hours and have everything loaded up like before. It's an awesome phone, just not surs ifbit is a $500 upgrade from the Nexus One that I currently own. My biggest issue is the limilted memory... with 12 gigs of music, my work files and others- I think I will run out soon, I am guessing they come out with a 32 gig before long. I will hang on to this and see how my N1 performs with GB. I really don't need a front facing camera or NFC chip. But I must admit, this thing is great and really flies! Anyone else having second thought?

It's disappointing that Google is going the Steve Jobs way trying to control what we can or can't do with our phones. I prefer my Nexus one 1000 times over this mediocre-half-ass attempt of a phone. I'll wait for Google to try again next year and bring back the tracking ball, memory slot, and a metallic casing instead of the plasticky one.
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calin75 said:
It's disappointing that Google is going the Steve Jobs way trying to control what we can or can't do with our phones.
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Yeah, I don't really see the Google Walled Garden. You'll have to explain.

I am almost positive there will be a Nexus-M by Motorola, they really want in on the Nexus name I have heard. Might be called the Nexus-3.0 and released after Honeycomb comes out, but that's just rumors I have heard. I thought Moto was gonna get the Nexus-2 before Samsung got involved, so I am sure they are working on a Nexus phone for release in 2011.
Right now, today, the Nexus-S is the best Android phone on the market, if you want pure Android, with no carrier bloatware, and no branding crap like Sense or Touchwiz, and you just need to root this phone to make it bad ass, no real need for a custom rom like C 6.1.
I would not want the first dual core phone to market anyways, let them work out the kinks and bugs first, and I'll take the second round of dual core phones. Will give them time to really optimize Android for dual core after the 2nd gen is out.

I think the OP was asking if you have actually bought the phone are you having second thoughts.

To go from a Nexus One to a Nexus S and call it an upgrade is an oxymoron. To pay money and get a phone with less features is unwise. Gingerbread is coming to the Nexus One anyway.
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calin75 said:
To go from a Nexus One to a Nexus S and call it an upgrade is an oxymoron. To pay money and get a phone with less features is unwise.
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Where does Google say it's an upgrade? Link, please.
If you're just whining because the Nexus S doesn't have all the features that you want, then please stop. Go somewhere else and start your own thread, where you can complain all you want that the phone doesn't have a Jet Pack or a Rocket Launcher.

calin75 said:
It's disappointing that Google is going the Steve Jobs way trying to control what we can or can't do with our phones. I prefer my Nexus one 1000 times over this mediocre-half-ass attempt of a phone. I'll wait for Google to try again next year and bring back the tracking ball, memory slot, and a metallic casing instead of the plasticky one.
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It's hardly the same thing. Sure, Google may have taken out a couple features that you find important, but they are definitely not controlling anything. These decisions ONLY affect the Nexus S. The MANY other Android phones are not affected. So if you want a trackball and expandable memory, you can very well have that. Just buy a different phone. Apple on the other hand, prevents this freedom since the iPhone is the only available iOS phone.

shrivelfig said:
Where does Google say it's an upgrade? Link, please.
If you're just whining because the Nexus S doesn't have all the features that you want, then please stop. Go somewhere else and start your own thread, where you can complain all you want that the phone doesn't have a Jet Pack or a Rocket Launcher.
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This is a forum for people to share their opinions. If you really like the Nexus S, you shouldn't get mad if others don't. Go buy one, enjoy it and move on. But try to understand that different people use their phones differently.
For me, the lack of SD storage is a deal breaker. Like the OP, I have easily over 12GB of music that I load on my phones. I don't want to carry an MP3 player on top of my cellphone. Nexus S's lack of SD slot leaves me with very limited space for my other data (work emails, apps, pictures and clips that I shoot, and so on). Having said that, I could see how this wouldn't be an issue for someone who doesn't fill up their phone.
Secondly, no matter how you spin it, the hardware is not a noticeable step ahead from the Nexus One, or the myTouch 4G. The S has a 1GHz processor and so do a whole slew of phones by Samsung and other manufacturers.
Thirdly, the Nexus S doesn't utilize TMO's HSPA+ network. Again, this may not be a big deal for somebody who doesn't do heavy data on their phone. But I do, and I happen to live in an area where TMO's "4G" network works extremely well. I definitely consider going from HSPA+ back to "3G" a downgrade. You may not share that view...
Basically, the only selling point for the S is Gingerbread. Based on certain information I have, the MT4G is highly likely to get a 2.3 update on the other side of the year. A minor OS update isn't enough to convince me to buy this phone.
As for your "upgrade" comment, technology is expected to get better over time. It's just the way it works. Google doesn't need to hold a press conference event to tell us whether this phone is an upgrade over a phone released nearly a year ago. That is expected to be the case.

Removed by me

I think the Nexus phones are Google's iPhone. It is untouched by Carrier bloatware, and untouched by phone brand UI's. This is the "pure" Android experience, sort of how iPhone is the "pure" Apple phone experience, but they only have one phone anyways, so sort of hard to compare, but you get my drift.
Is the Nexus-S gonna be the top dog hardware, no. But it will always be up to date with the current OS, and not really needing any custom roms, just a root. Sure in two months from now, there will be dual cores etc...but they will also have Moto blur, or TouchWiz, or Sense UI, and then have Verizon Bing search, or ATT crap ware. I like the virgin Nexus, even if she is a little slower
Every Christmas time there will be a new Nexus, running the latest OS, sort of like every summer there is a new iPhone. I hope this keeps going.

Zorachus said:
Sure in two months from now, there will be dual cores etc...but they will also have Moto blur, or TouchWiz, or Sense UI, and then have Verizon Bing search, or ATT crap ware.
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even if there is, until android is written to support it, and the apps are as well, having an extra core will be useless.
I'm going to sit on my n1 until a dual core dev phone is released. By that point, my n1 will be at the same hardware comparison with the new phone that my g1 was with the n1

deprecate said:
even if there is, until android is written to support it, and the apps are as well, having an extra core will be useless.
I'm going to sit on my n1 until a dual core dev phone is released. By that point, my n1 will be at the same hardware comparison with the new phone that my g1 was with the n1
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Agreed, I would not want to be beta tester on the first gen of dual core phones, could be buggy, or could not offer any performance gains until the Android OS is totally ready for it . Now a dual core Nexus development phone would be nice.

Probably going to return mine
This phone is nice, but I really don't c much performance upgrade over my Nexus One. When I tried to watch some flash videos, it was just as choppy as my Nexus One...I was very disappointed. I think right before the remorse period is over I will return the phone and go back to my N1.

I visited Best Buy during lunch and got to play with a demo unit. The first impression is that the phone feels cheap. Yes, we've read about this many times in reviews, but I don't think one realizes it until one has it in their hands. It feels like a toy. And for whatever reason, it feels cheaper than the Vibrant; maybe because of expectations (Nexus branding and all)? I don't know. In some ways, the Vibrant's cheapness still feels like quality.
Granted, I was only using it for no more than 5 minutes, I was quite underwhelmed. Gingerbread sure is smooth, though.

Driving home with mine right now. 30 day return policy with no restocking fee. Ill see how gb does on my nexus one also and if I find any buyers. If gb flies on n1 and no buyers ill return. Can't wait to get home and charge it then wait till its done before I use. Fffuuuuuuu
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I too am underwhelmed with the device so far. Oh yes it is fast and smooth but I am getting Fc's and some have to do with the GPS which does concern me. My GPS has been spotty so far and I still recall the torture with the Vibrant's GPS. Also Market has not updated to the new market. I thought GB would include that for sure(perhaps it is not actually released yet although I have it on my Vibrant. I do like the feel of the phone though. It is heavier to me than the Vibrant or the MT4G

... Like 2 dicks and no *****, Samsung and Android don't mix.
Sorry but that's just the god's honest truth.

tenbeau said:
I too am underwhelmed with the device so far. Oh yes it is fast and smooth but I am getting Fc's and some have to do with the GPS which does concern me. My GPS has been spotty so far and I still recall the torture with the Vibrant's GPS. Also Market has not updated to the new market. I thought GB would include that for sure(perhaps it is not actually released yet although I have it on my Vibrant. I do like the feel of the phone though. It is heavier to me than the Vibrant or the MT4G
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If you're getting FC's out of the box, do a full reset of the phone. If it keeps doing it even afterwards, then exchange it.

This is my first Samsung device and I disagree with the folks saying that it feels cheap or like a toy. My only complaint about it's build quality after having played with it for the last several hours is that I wish they had used some rubberized texture coating or something because the phone is pretty slick.
I'm sure I'll get used to it though and adjust my grip accordingly.
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... Like 2 dicks and no *****, Samsung and Android don't mix.
Sorry but that's just the god's honest truth.
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LOL I'm writing that one down.

Wow, everyone is trying to get rid of their Galaxy S

So, I'm a daily patron on craigslist and as a side hobby I trade phones, I always seem to make a profit if I wait so it's something I do kinda for fun. I have had a recent influx of literally every kind of galaxy S phone there is aside from the Nexus S (which I wouldnt touch with a 10 foot pole.) For example, I posted my HD7 less than 2 hours ago, and have had 13 offers, 4 are unlocked iphones and the remaining 9 have all been captivates or vibrants all offering as much as 150 cash with their phone for an HD7. I mean a couple would be written off as coincidence but literally every offer. I mean I knew these phones were crap the first time I touched the vibrant but it's funny seeing all these media sheep finally realizing they made a bad deal. Samsung has always been the biggest scam artist in the phone world and it's good to see so many people finally realizing it. This just goes to show that HTC is the only way to go

You can't really talk unless you've owned a galaxy s phone. I can tell you from experience the Captivate or Vibrant is anything but a piece of ****. Given, the software sucks but that's why we have xda, right?
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Had a vibrant 3 days, rooted, unlocked, and running the G2 girmware (or a clone). Worst phone I've had since the cliq. The original software was crap (thank you XDA for that save) and the overall plasticky feel of it paired with the buffer overrun issue just killed it. My wife owns a captivate, much better build quality and doesnt seem to have the same buffer issues though I would think it should. XDA has made that phone usable but by default... hardly. I'd still pick an HD2 running android over it any day. Of course this is ffrom someone whos grown tired of android as a whole and the fact that it has to be constantly 'tweaked' just to remain functional but as a former android fanboy, those phones were kinda an embarassment and way overhyped for mediocrity.

I owned a Nexus S for long enough to have an opinion: I'm never buying from Samsung again.
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People that sell out vibrant can't handle vibrant or android imho.Get an iphone and don't even bother with any android.
Vibrant nero v3
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people who buy vibrants are people who do what the media tells them is more individual. Go be a mac user. I'll stick to real android devices manufactured by HTC as they should be.

Had a Samsung SGH-i900 Omnia between jan 2009 and mars 2010 (dropped it in water that killed the Omnia but thank lord not the SIM and memory cards).
Anyone still remember the Samsung marketing of that phone. Well to make a long story short: The i900 never delivered what Samsung promised in their marketing.
Sticking to SonyEricsson now.

TheBiles said:
I owned a Nexus S for long enough to have an opinion: I'm never buying from Samsung again.
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but you have a samsung in nexus S, Nexus S was made by Samsung for Google.
How about that?
bR

essojay said:
but you have a samsung in nexus S, Nexus S was made by Samsung for Google.
How about that?
bR
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hence the reason hes texting from a G2... he obviously gave it up...

I own a Captivate - and other than the crappy OTA OS, non-working GPS, random shutdowns, and the lag... it's a great phone.
But.. thanks to XDA and much tweaking the performance of the phone is better, GPS hobbles along semi working - but the shutdown issue still exists due to hardware and I've been too busy to go get it exchanged.
I wouldn't recommend getting a Samsung phone to anyone. I like mine (when it works) but couldn't recommend it to anyone else.

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but you have a samsung in nexus S, Nexus S was made by Samsung for Google.
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I guess you missed the "sent from my G2."

If you were in the UK I may have brought something from ya, I could do with another phone xD

the nexus s is the biggest phone ripoff ive seen in some time ... they took a half year(which is alot in phone life) hardware , gave it an update that everyone is gonna have in a few months anyway , slapped a full price on , and WOW THE NEW NEXUSSSSS !! ppl who fall for that , well i pity them

Wow, everyone is trying to get rid of their Galaxy S...
...Some of us never even had one

some people were so lucky.

I will personally never buy a samsung phone again after owning the moment. The wife has an epic and loves it but i dont care much for it.
That said the latest LG phones have been very nice and i am not a fan of sense so its nice to have options other than htc.

Your average every day person will either think the vibrant is a great phone or a complete fail. I liked my vibrant until I started hearing about the issues and realized they exist. Now, after many modifications, I like it more than any phone out now.
I work with 3 people that own droid x's. Anytime I've asked any of them to play with it, it's had nearly as much lag as my stock vibrant. I owned a g2 for 3 days and mytouch 4g for a week. Those are for people that want a new, fast phone and don't care how it looks or how they look using one. Neither are very physically attractive, they run decent though.
Galaxy S phones were definitely a fail software wise by samsung. Hardware wise, they're still as good as anything else. They aren't for people that want a top phone but don't want to modify it.
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some nnob said he had G2 firmware on his Vibrant... BS! My vibrant is a G2/MT4G/EVO/DroidX killer, screw benchmarks, just take raw performance. Yes I rooted and flashed roms (no lag-fix though) but thats wats so great abiut android.
Now I will say that out of the box it has issues, but so has every phone. (excluding the G1 it was excellent) But I have working gps, night mode imo better than led flash, ffc with all video chat apps working, noled for notifications, full 2.2 with flash 10.1, ect...
The SGS community have made thus phone great. People just have to take advantage.
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well I mean there have been over 10 million galaxy s phones sold, so its understandable that they'd show up on craigslist more. but because of past experiences with Samsung, (ie my mom's moment) I would never trust a Samsung again. should've got her a htc hero.
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everyone says sammy's bad about updating but what about moto and the cliq? htc and the G1 after the mytouch and n1 release? Dell and sony still shipping 1.6? they all sucked. Sammy was smart by concentrating on one device, working the update and allowing the carrier to add tweaks. The phone has been here 6mos max and people are clamoring that they are slow, the phone is still new, and they've dropped updates already for launch day issues. If your unit is defective exchange it, you got a year warranty like the rest of us.
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Returning Tomorrow

So.. yea I think ill be returning the Atrix tomorrow. The phone is amazing: great screen, great battery life, amazingly fast, but I just don't think it is really necessary to have right now.
I wasn't planning on using the webtop application so that whole idea was out; the phone is fast but when compares to my Nexus 1 and Captivate, only loads pages 1-3 seconds faster than the two.
I'm planning on just hollding onto my upgrade until something else comes out or they lower the price of fhe laptop dock or make it better.
Anyone else with the same feelings?

Props on signing off without a list of dumb reasons on why you are returning it. You feel like you don't need it right now and there's nothing wrong with that. Good luck with your new phone.

me want but me no really need....
man i was itching to buy this phone. ive been holding back my compulsion to buy this phone but its geting harder and harder.
just got to keep teling myself that its not a need but a want. got to stop trolling this atrix forum before i nd up buying it

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got to stop trolling this atrix forum before i nd up buying it
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I'm gonna end up doing the same... I want an Atrix bad, but I am curious when a true 4G (LTE) android phone comes out. May have to wait to jump until then.

FLAC Vest said:
So.. yea I think ill be returning the Atrix tomorrow. The phone is amazing: great screen, great battery life, amazingly fast, but I just don't think it is really necessary to have right now.
I wasn't planning on using the webtop application so that whole idea was out; the phone is fast but when compares to my Nexus 1 and Captivate, only loads pages 1-3 seconds faster than the two.
I'm planning on just hollding onto my upgrade until something else comes out or they lower the price of fhe laptop dock or make it better.
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I just got back from returning mine. I felt the same way I'll hold out on my upgrade until something else comes out. My unlocked vibrant is getting 4x faster upload speed than the atrix. Now thats unacceptable even if att is the reason why it's capped.

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I just got back from returning mine. I felt the same way I'll hold out on my upgrade until something else comes out. My unlocked vibrant is getting 4x faster upload speed than the atrix. Now thats unacceptable even if att is the reason why it's capped.
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Sailing in the same boat, leaning towards selling/returning

I'm probably returning mine within the next few days. It's a great phone but I'm just not feeling it. A lot of the apps that I use often are just more mature and have more features on iOS. It doesn't help that the bootloader is locked and I won't get to enjoy the Cyanogen ROM's I liked so much when I was using the Nexus One. Probably the final straw is also that I am not in a market that has the enhanced backhaul completed yet so my speeds are just as fast on my iPhone 4, which also natively supports HSUPA.
I'll be looking for another Android device as it gets closer to summer.

I added a line and purchased the Atrix at 199 for it..If I decided to return it, and use my captivate on that line, would that upgrade just stay on that line until i use it?

anomaly460 said:
I added a line and purchased the Atrix at 199 for it..If I decided to return it, and use my captivate on that line, would that upgrade just stay on that line until i use it?
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Yes. If you return within 30 days you get the upgrade back on that line.
it's great I'd you want to try ever phone and you can just keep switching over and over within a month.
You might have to pay a little for restocking or something (and the phone but that can be made up with return)

FLAC Vest said:
So.. yea I think ill be returning the Atrix tomorrow. The phone is amazing: great screen, great battery life, amazingly fast, but I just don't think it is really necessary to have right now.
I wasn't planning on using the webtop application so that whole idea was out; the phone is fast but when compares to my Nexus 1 and Captivate, only loads pages 1-3 seconds faster than the two.
I'm planning on just hollding onto my upgrade until something else comes out or they lower the price of fhe laptop dock or make it better.
Anyone else with the same feelings?
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I was thinking about returning not because I did not need it but because of the random reboots. But I got that fixed today by calling AT&T and have them fix my account. I have the captivate but this phone is beast, I no longer have to worry about widgets taken too much memory, application running that needs to be close, and phone not performing because of too many things running.
Now I will take a lock phone that can run all my apps with no issues then a phone I can customized but still having issues with performance and memory. So at this moment this is definitely a keeper until something better (which I think won't happen until the christmas holiday). Let's be real the next bing thing on the horizon is the SGS II, it is likely not coming to AT&T so we are going to end up paying big bucks for AT&T 3G compatible version imported to the US.

lpsi2000 said:
Let's be real the next bing thing on the horizon is the SGS II, it is likely not coming to AT&T so we are going to end up paying big bucks for AT&T 3G compatible version imported to the US.
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A bit off-topic. Care to back up your guess? All the Galaxy S2 specs I've read so far is covered by AT&T: 850/900/1900/2100

quattr0 said:
A bit off-topic. Care to back up your guess? All the Galaxy S2 specs I've read so far is covered by AT&T: 850/900/1900/2100
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Read again or call your resailers, there will be two version one with 850/1900 that will come after the Euro one. I don't think AT&T will be carrying it. I thought the same thing at first but I believe the specs from Samsung are misleading. Let's wait and see but I will not hold my breath.

quattr0 said:
A bit off-topic. Care to back up your guess? All the Galaxy S2 specs I've read so far is covered by AT&T: 850/900/1900/2100
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Yea; why would they not release it here? It sold tons here in the US and although it might not go to every carrier, I'm confident it will go to ATT

FLAC Vest said:
Yea; why would they not release it here? It sold tons here in the US and although it might not go to every carrier, I'm confident it will go to ATT
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I hope I am wrong because I would want it on AT&T too, but remember AT&T is getting the iPhone 5 sometime during the summer or fall. I won't bet my money on them getting another powerful phone that could potentially knock the iPhone 5. I think the Atrix was the answer to the iPhone 4 going to Verizon. It took AT&T a long time to get the Captivate in rotation.
The HD2 never made to AT&T although there was one with AT&T 3G

See I've had the Captivate and loved it and Android and was forced to get rid of it due to it's battery life. It would last like 6-7 hours not even joking. But this Atrix is a beast. I took it off the charger about 8:30 am and I have 30% remaining now and im a heavy user of everything. Streaming music using audio galaxy through my jawbone while connected to wi fi for hours at work. Battery life got me loving android again.
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lpsi2000 said:
I hope I am wrong because I would want it on AT&T too, but remember AT&T is getting the iPhone 5 sometime during the summer or fall. I won't bet my money on them getting another powerful phone that could potentially knock the iPhone 5. I think the Atrix was the answer to the iPhone 4 going to Verizon. It took AT&T a long time to get the Captivate in rotation.
The HD2 never made to AT&T although there was one with AT&T 3G
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AT&T drug their feet on the Captivate a little when they had exclusivity with Apple. Now that Verizon and possibly other carriers will have the iPhone 5, don't expect any such coddling of Apple by AT&T. The CEO of AT&T has been using a Captivate as his personal phone since 4Q10 and made sure the media knew he was toting it. He won't be helping Apple out at the expense of other devices any longer.

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AT&T drug their feet on the Captivate a little when they had exclusivity with Apple. Now that Verizon and possibly other carriers will have the iPhone 5, don't expect any such coddling of Apple by AT&T. The CEO of AT&T has been using a Captivate as his personal phone since 4Q10 and made sure the media knew he was toting it. He won't be helping Apple out at the expense of other devices any longer.
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I'd really like to believe that, but...it seems pretty obvious (to me anyway) that the Inspire and Atrix were gimped as to not knock iPhone as at&t's flagship. There's just no other explanation. iPhone is still at&t's top-seller.

I had been itching to buy the Atrix for over 5 months (when it was known as the Tegra 2 Olympus) but now, with the locked bootloader and the complete uselessness of the front camera and the fact it won't get Ice Cream till December'11, I'm thinking dual-core won't officially matter till Google releases a Nexus with it.
Who wants to develop for dual-core anyway when 95% of the phones on the market are single-core? If only stupid moto left the bootloader unsigned, I could have relied on XDA to deliver Ice Cream when it arrives in May/June.
Sad.

A lot people on these threads are dogging the Atrix because of missing features, things not working etc. Damn, can we just enjoy the device. The phone just came out a week or two ago, give it a chance. I had one of the Google I/O Evo's when they came out last year and it was issues with that too. They released the Evo to general public and those too had some issues that consisted of SD card problems, capped fps, battery issues, screen tearing and a lot more. But over time and with updates, the issues that was at hand with the Evo, got fixed and now the Evo is one of the top of the line phones.
I can understand if you just don't like the Atrix but to have the phone a day or two and say oh I'm returning it because it has lag or some other stupid reason..is ridiculous. Most of the time you have lag, it's because of a rogue app or setting. And when talking about apps, one must also remember that this is one of the first if not the first Tegra 2 handset on the market. With that said a lot of apps may not be compatible with the the Atrix...just yet. I know I ran into this issue when I bought the Nexus S. There was a lot of apps in the Market that wasn't compatible with 2.3, one specifically the camera app Vignette. I actually emailed the dev behind the app and they emailed me a different version of the app that worked fine.
I haven't haven't had a iP4 since last year when I sold mine. But for the people coming from the iP4 to Android,specifically the Atrix and is whining about the bootloader being locked, isn't the iPhone locked down as well?
All I'm saying is I'm sure that there will be some updates coming out for the Atrix that will fix some of these issues that everybody is complaining about.

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A lot people on these threads are dogging the Atrix because of missing features, things not working etc. Damn, can we just enjoy the device. The phone just came out a week or two ago, give it a chance. I had one of the Google I/O Evo's when they came out last year and it was issues with that too. They released the Evo to general public and those too had some issues that consisted of SD card problems, capped fps, battery issues, screen tearing and a lot more. But over time and with updates, the issues that was at hand with the Evo, got fixed and now the Evo is one of the top of the line phones.
I can understand if you just don't like the Atrix but to have the phone a day or two and say oh I'm returning it because it has lag or some other stupid reason..is ridiculous. Most of the time you have lag, it's because of a rogue app or setting. And when talking about apps, one must also remember that this is one of the first if not the first Tegra 2 handset on the market. With that said a lot of apps may not be compatible with the the Atrix...just yet. I know I ran into this issue when I bought the Nexus S. There was a lot of apps in the Market that wasn't compatible with 2.3, one specifically the camera app Vignette. I actually emailed the dev behind the app and they emailed me a different version of the app that worked fine.
I haven't haven't had a iP4 since last year when I sold mine. But for the people coming from the iP4 to Android,specifically the Atrix and is whining about the bootloader being locked, isn't the iPhone locked down as well?
All I'm saying is I'm sure that there will be some updates coming out for the Atrix that will fix some of these issues that everybody is complaining about.
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I've been using the Iphones since 2008 and I think some of the issues that people that are coming from an Iphone are having is that it just works out of the box. I was use to a device just working and with the atrix there is a lot of setup time. The contacts are cumbersome and it pulls them from everywhere without giving you the options clearly to select where you want the contacts to come from. The android market is not as mature as the app store. If I get an app from the app store, I know it will work just fine with my phone, that's not always the case with android.
Despite all the hate people have for apple, their closed app store prevents a lot of things from happening. Their device works just right out of the box and a lot of end-user's prefer that and even some of us techies.
I work with PC's all day long and to be honest the last thing I want to do is work on anything computer related when I get home. When I got the atrix, it felt like I was working. It took some time to sort out all of the issues and I still have some that linger on, yet whenever I got an iphone it just worked. I plugged it in and it synced everything and it just worked. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying the iphone is the best phone out there. I personally think iOS has grown stale and prefer the android notifications over apples, and let's not get into multitasking... I know android is better at that. The problem is that you have too much fragmentation and that doesn't sit well with most people.
Now you mentioned updates and that's another issue that android has... google doesn't update all the phones, it has to go through the manufacturer and carrier. That, in my opinion is a huge mistake, it causes too many delays and a lot of phones are never even updated. So, while some of the issues can be fixed with an update the question is, will they? The iphone crowd knows for them that it will because most bugs are dealt with through minor updates and then you get the major updates.
The android platform has a lot to offer, I just think google gave away too much control to the makers of these handsets. I think a lot of issues would be alleviated if google just took control back and just released the updates themselves.
I'm keeping the phone and so is my wife, she really loves the customization of it and the widgets. However, I understand where a lot of people are coming from, it's hard to justify spending money on a phone that just doesn't work out of the box.
As for the bootloader, yes apple has everything locked down. A jailbreak is all you need on the iphone. You don't need custom kernels because it's all optimized for apples hardware. You can find a ton of mods as well just by opening up cydia on your phone. The hacking community for the iphone is pretty active, which brings me to another point... I've been looking through the dev forums and most of what I see is dev bickering. I doubt we will see any solid development for the atrix when you have devs to busy trying to prove you can't do something and the others trying to argue with them about it. That's just a waste of time, drop the bullcrap and collaborate, you really never know what you may find.
I was very excited about the atrix, but the more I read those forums the more I knew this phone was doomed.
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IDK. Move on from my N1

I don't know if i should move on from my N1.
I had mine since the released date. I loved having this phone. I love how much dev it received. I love the form factor, size and performance. I don't know what more i need from my smartphone. However, its been almost two years now and want a new phone. Maybe I am having rom-flash withdrawal since there is no more CM nightly. My phone has been running like a champ. I have no dent, scratch and no hardware malfunction, other then multi-touch screen problem all N1 users have. I don't know if i need a bigger screen phone. I don't know if i want it any bigger.
Are your N1 still holding up? Are you still happy with it? I like to upgrade but it feels like a waste right now. What do you guys think? Maybe I should wait until ICS is available for N1. At least an official CM9 nightly.

My N1 is holding up like a champ. After having not updated the theme/icons/wallpaper, etc, for awhile, I started to get the "I need a new phone" thoughts...but since changing all of that and making things look more like ICS, I kind of feel like I have a new phone.
I dunno. I love my N1, despite all of its quirks. IMO there are few phones with the size and form factor on par or better than the N1's. The N1 is supported so well, it kind of seems like a waste to upgrade to better phone. I mean, most of the things the newer phones can do, the N1 can be hacked to do and perform it almost if not just as well.
I say wait. That's what I'm going to try to do. I have a AT&T N1 and am switching over to T-Mobile tomorrow. Unless I can get some 1900 mhz love from T-Mobile with the addition of the new band, I will be stuck on Edge which will be pretty brutal. I have a T-Mobile Moto Milestone but I don't want to pull that thing out because I love my N1 just so much...
Also, I cannot live without the trackball. I just can't. It is too awesome.

I also have an AT&T N1 and was thinking of switching to TMo, have you heard which markets they were using the 1900mhz in?
I was also thinking of getting the Galaxy Nexus, hopefully on someone beside Verizon.

I have also had N1 from release. I was getting bored, but I just recently installed one of the ICS builds. Very nice!

im feeling almost the same way, but I've only had this phone for about 6 months now... I bought it used on ebay.
Don't get me wrong, I love it.

Yeah it shame to let it go. I don't wanna. With devs here in xda, I feel like my N1 could live forever.
With all these new tech, Im just jealous and want to get it. But 600 dollar is alot to fork over. I have a special reserve just for tech but every time I think of pulling the trigger my N1 screams why. It still runs smooth, flawless and just the right size, it feels. Maybe new case will change my mind. Lol. I just can't wait for CM9 or ICS.
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I think i'll keep mine until the next Nexus phone...
Other than the internal storage and touchscreen issues, it's still really a great phone.
The upgrades are not very compelling... The only reason to upgrade sooner was if it developed some fault and i can't be bothered to fix it.

JoshX said:
I also have an AT&T N1 and was thinking of switching to TMo, have you heard which markets they were using the 1900mhz in?
I was also thinking of getting the Galaxy Nexus, hopefully on someone beside Verizon.
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I have not. My AT&T plan resets tomorrow, I believe, so today is kind of D-Day for my AT&T plan. I plan to port my number to Google Voice today and then renew my T-Mobile plan (I tried it out in November for one month).
There is a forum on HoFo where people have been reporting getting the new band. The here is the link for the forum: http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php/1748317-Post-here-if-you-have-noticed-1900MHz-3G-on-an-iPhone-or-other-device
I was looking at the Galaxy Nexus too, especially because it was on sale on DailySteals the other day for $565 I believe. But...meh. Technology will only get better and better, and with the support here on XDA for the N1, I believe there is really nothing that the N1 won't be able to accomplish.

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I don't know if i should move on from my N1.
ur N1 still holding up? Are you still happy with it? I like to upgrade but it feels like a waste right now. What do you guys think? Maybe I should wait until ICS is available for N1. At least an official CM9 nightly.
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I'm holding out for the 32GB GSM Galaxy Nexus. I'm hoping T-Mobile will eventually offer it under contract so I can use my upgrade subsidy--I re-upped a 2-year family plan back in May so my wife could upgrade from a G1 to a G2X. The biggest downsides to the GN for me are the lack of a microSD card slot and a trackball. The first is nearly inexcusable. The second is unfortunately the new standard.
Though there aren't official CM nighties, there are some nice KANG builds out there that are pretty much the same thing--just gathering up the changes since the #253 official build. I'm using temasek's build, available here. The newest builds have been very stable.

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I think i'll keep mine until the next Nexus phone...
Other than the internal storage and touchscreen issues, it's still really a great phone.
The upgrades are not very compelling... The only reason to upgrade sooner was if it developed some fault and i can't be bothered to fix it.
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My thoughts too.

lol, I feel like I walked into an N1 support group...
I was pretty confident I was going to upgrade to the GN, because I can get full subsidies from my carrier, but I need to pay it all upfront (I'll be buying it independently). When I thought about it some more, the GN isn't enough of a jump.
I mean, I've been with the N1 since it's launch, and it's served me so well. Yes, we all have that stupid synaptics touch screen, the terrible lack of internal storage and a camera I simply don't like using because of the quality. I personally would've liked the look of the N1 better without the trackball, but I can't say it hasn't been super useful. I think without the trackball though (and perhaps some less bland colors) it could've easily been the prettiest phone I've ever seen.
Everyone around here have either iPhones or Galaxies (1, 2). I gotta say, Samsung is only getting better in their design (even with the plastics). And their screens are a big win.
But for me, I'm waiting it out with my N1. I'm even considering keeping it on Gingerbread from now on, so that my upgrade will be a real experience. I think it's incredible to think that keeping my N1 on GB will really define the N1 as "legacy". Two years and it's still holding its own against the biggest and baddest phones out there.
When quad cores start pouring, I'll be taking another look. But atm I'm happy to be at the end of the cycle where my phone is becoming legacy and soon I will move on to the next cycle - Quad core, 720p, hardware-button-less, ICS and all those goodies...

HI MY NAME IS STEVE AND I AM ADDICTED TO MY NEXUS ONE. LOL.
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i heart my N1 too much
I've also had my N1 since release and I honestly having a heard time finding a phone i'd rather be using. especially now that am running ICS on it.
i love the support this phone gets and probably will keep using it even after i get a new phone.
but i highly doubt i could ever really replace it.

hi
I used my nexus one for a year and a half. I bought a nexus S for cheap a few weeks ago (I wouldn't have bought this POS for full retail price, got it for U$270 off contract), but I'm really having a hard time letting go of my "old" N1.
I really, really miss the trackball notifications and the feel of the phone. I tried to explain it to my friends, but they didn't get it. They like the way samsung phones feel ("very light! awesome!"), but I don't. I like how HTC phones feel, sturdy and heavy.
Things I REALLY miss:
- trackball
- trackball colour notifications
- how the N1 feels
- battery life
- contactless desktop dock
- non-buggy ROMs!
Things I like on the NS:
- application storage space is 1GB! awesome!
- screen is better, multitouch is not buggy
- I thought i would miss the SD card, but I don't
Things I REALLY DISLIKE on the NS:
- buggy back button, presses itself or gets stuck.
- battery life sucks
- phone is stupid.
Things I couldn't care less for in the NS:
- NFC
- contour display
- front facing camera
long story short, I'm going back to my N1 and selling this piece of crap NS, maybe i can get some more money out of it.

I was thinking about picking up a Nexus S. Since ICS was released I was tempted. I also found some under 300. Glad I didn't.
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I bought a brand new Nexus One last month. After hours of browsing on the internet looking at as many phones as possible, the N1 just stood out for some reason. And since owning it I haven't regretted my decision one bit.
In fact, my 82 year old Grandad has just bought one (over the iPhone too)!!
One thing that has actually amazed me about the N1, is that it can get a GPS lock in under 10 seconds when I'm indoors. Less than 5 when I'm outside. The first time I did it indoors my mind almost exploded. My old HTC Legend took ~30 seconds, and just couldn't really do it indoors. Not that being able to get GPS when I'm in my own house is of any use whatsoever, but I just thought it was epic
Never give up the N1 until something absolutely epic comes out, which, at the moment (at least IMO), there is not one phone worth forking out so much money for.

Long live the Nexus One!
I like it too. Hehe!
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I'm not gonna switch to a phone without a trackball.

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- phone is stupid.
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I like that one...
Anyone worrying about losing color notifications from the trackball - just letting you know the GNex has color notifications, the led is just hidden under the bezel (brilliant!).

WiW said:
I like that one...
Anyone worrying about losing color notifications from the trackball - just letting you know the GNex has color notifications, the led is just hidden under the bezel (brilliant!).
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Google actually listened. Prob one thing I like about GN. And also ICS, screen and ..... who am I kidding? I like the damn thing. But obviously not enough to take me away from my N1.
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