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Samsung announce "a new" Galaxy S at CES

Here is the report
http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/05/...ounced-for-atandt-4-5-inch-super-amoled-plus/
This is only one of many announcements to come though.

Tehpriest said:
Here is the report
http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/05/...ounced-for-atandt-4-5-inch-super-amoled-plus/
This is only one of many announcements to come though.
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What about the S2?
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Their keynote from the President is tomorrow.

Hmmm... It sure looks like a nice device. I sure hope that Samsung has all the bugs worked out by the time this hits the market and Id like to see it here in Canada as well...

I've come to really like the physical home button (missing from this new model) on the i9000 as well as that little hump at the botton of the back. Two ways to easily orrient the phone without having to look at it.

Would that 50% more subpixels really improve the text quality on the SAMOLED-plus ?
I hope they sorted out the screen burn issues..

EarlZ said:
Would that 50% more subpixels really improve the text quality on the SAMOLED-plus ?
I hope they sorted out the screen burn issues..
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Yes. RIP pentile

I might better start saving today for the release of this model ;-) looks real nice & 8 MP Camera sounds just great!
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8 MP Camera sounds just great!
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8 MP Camera won't change much if the lens and sensor are still of the same size. Anyway always remember that your display is about 2 MP (full HD)
The best improvement is S-AMOLED+. 4.5" is also interesting, but some people will prefer smaller phones. That extra 200 MHz is better than nothing, but I hope that they also added more RAM or the performance will be about the same.

Hmm I hope something like this hits the UK. I'd love a 4.5" Galaxy S Although I'd rather wait for some major dual core phones to hit the market.

[whistle|thinks] Maybe the GSM version will be [/whistle|thinks]

4,5 inches?? Wow that's just too much, 4 inches are just perfect, but i wouldn't go any larger.. i'd like to see a 3,7 oder 4 inches superamoled+ samsung dual core 8 MP with xenon light and honeycomb android.. everything else would be just a minor upgrade ^^

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Yes. RIP pentile
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I thought its still using pentile..
NVM, saw it on another article they are getting rid of the pentil in favor for RGB layout for better images.. they should have done this in the first place!

Korshar said:
4,5 inches?? Wow that's just too much, 4 inches are just perfect, but i wouldn't go any larger.. i'd like to see a 3,7 oder 4 inches superamoled+ samsung dual core 8 MP with xenon light and honeycomb android.. everything else would be just a minor upgrade ^^
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gimme a break. the bigger the better, as long as it fits in your pocket. and ive got OODLES of room left with my galaxy s. my wallet is a lot wider and wallets are designed to go in your pocket.

I'm glad that AMOLED has now got to the point that they can drop PenTile!

Korshar said:
4,5 inches?? Wow that's just too much, 4 inches are just perfect, but i wouldn't go any larger.. i'd like to see a 3,7 oder 4 inches superamoled+ samsung dual core 8 MP with xenon light and honeycomb android.. everything else would be just a minor upgrade ^^
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Exactly...i dislike the idea of having a phone bigger than 4". Even when going for the SGS i was a little undecided. Id rather not have a huge hand held game like device as a phone, it should look sleek and professional, but these qualities are compromised the bigger the size. Bigger screen and therefore phone doesnt mean better. Its nice to be able to use the galaxy s with the same hand that is holding the phone.
Bigger size is just a waste in my opinion.

I cant say I see this as much of an improvement over the current sgs, where the hell is Orion? Delayed? Dropped off the radar?
And yeah, the 4.5" screen sounds like a bit much.

Not sold on 4.5" here either. Even 4" (as much as I like it over smaller sizes) is a stretch to use with one hand. It is a reach to hit the far side in 'landscape' orientation.
In terms of just looks though it should be a stunner with RGB sub-pixels instead of pentile.

I think this may be classed as a 'middle-man' to the S2.
Not too much will chance, but as I'm completed addicted to this Galaxy S and Android in general, I will no doubt upgrade to the SGS+

The screen isn't bad at all..

Why are people complaining?
Nothing is bad with the screen! I can see everything just fine!

Grab it and put it beside an ipad
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This is an HD screen so good in appearance, but if you compare screens with say the tf700 or even my 1080p phone screen you begin to understand just how much difference there really is. 400 ppi or higher makes everything sharp and clear. Letters pop out, and images are clear and vibrant. Even the simple act of forum reading is enhanced at 1080p 400+ ppi. There is no real comparison, true high def is simply better. While this screen is adequate it doesnt sing, 400 ppi is a Symphony.

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Why are people complaining?
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Because Internet.

gock said:
Grab it and put it beside an ipad
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True. But it really isn't bad per se. The only area where it's really noticable is text but to make text more readable rather than make it bigger I turn up the brightness. In the days of 440+PPI displays 147PPI isn't anything to write home about. But like OP said, that doesn't make it "bad." It's certainly livable.

BarryH_GEG said:
True. But it really isn't bad per se. The only area where it's really noticable is text but to make text more readable rather than make it bigger I turn up the brightness. In the days of 440+PPI displays 147PPI isn't anything to write home about. But like OP said, that doesn't make it "bad." It's certainly livable.
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Wacom displays cost lots more than standard displays. Higher Res equal much more cash.

What tablet had 400+ ppi when this was launched?

Airtioteclint said:
What tablet had 400+ ppi when this was launched?
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Tf700

I have no problems with it too but that may be coz I don't have a comparison to make. I read somewhere the resolution is limited due to wacom. But I doubt that's the main reason, since even the recent galaxy tab 3 kept the low resolution. I can't help but fear the next note 10.1 will be the same. But how about using the Sony xperia ultra screen technology on this? Works with any pen input
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Jasonchewy91 said:
. But how about using the Sony xperia ultra screen technology on this? Works with any pen input
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Because it costs money to buy off Sony... Why pay a competitor when you have good tech yourself....

We have become a bit spoilded with screen resolution anf ppi, every year the ppi gets denser and denser , personally at 340+ ppi I can't see the pixels with my naked eyes why one would need a ppi of 400 + is more for the company to get people to buy the latest product from them
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Agreed. And the worse is consumers suffer due to the compromise on battery life.
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Jasonchewy91 said:
Agreed. And the worse is consumers suffer due to the compromise on battery life.
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Exactly, when I first read about the screen I realized that if I'm going to be taking notes on this thing all day and then some (which as a college engineering student I DO), that if the screen was something like Super AMOLED or Retina Display, the tablet's battery wouldn't last me through the day.

ckavvouras said:
We have become a bit spoilded with screen resolution anf ppi, every year the ppi gets denser and denser , personally at 340+ ppi I can't see the pixels with my naked eyes why one would need a ppi of 400 + is more for the company to get people to buy the latest product from them
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1 getting the most for my money is important. Thats not being spoiled that is using your brain
2 this tablet is no where near 340 ppi. in fact it is 149 ppi. samsung is way behind in screen tech
3 everyone is not the same so some will be on the high end of normal and see 440 ppi
4 battery life will not suffer if you use the latest processor's from this year, in fact it will increase
5 watching movies and or videos in 1080p 400+ ppi is a superior experience
6 at our current ppi text is sometimes crappy and always dull. At 400 it is not so hard on my old eyes to read.
As ive said before I like this tablet a lot, and for the most part i even like touch wiz. if however samsung doesnt get with the times this year with the plethora of 1080 screens and 3gb ram, 2+Ghz machines coming out Q4 this year and Q1 next year I will gladly give my money away to another. Samsung has in the past been on the cutting edge and I think they most likely will be this year as well, so I expect we will see a 1080p unit that I will adore. This was the best overall machine when i bought it imho because when you factor the power of the cpu, battery life and smooth running rom plus stylus the only detractor was the screen. That said its a new year and I expect more from the next generation or I will simply reserve my money for a unit that tops my current note 10.1. That could be asus or sony, or anyone. Im not a fanboy, i put my money where i get the best value on the highest end of tech.

conan1600 said:
1 getting the most for my money is important. Thats not being spoiled that is using your brain
2 this tablet is no where near 340 ppi. in fact it is 149 ppi. samsung is way behind in screen tech
3 everyone is not the same so some will be on the high end of normal and see 440 ppi
4 battery life will not suffer if you use the latest processor's from this year, in fact it will increase
5 watching movies and or videos in 1080p 400+ ppi is a superior experience
6 at our current ppi text is sometimes crappy and always dull. At 400 it is not so hard on my old eyes to read.
As ive said before I like this tablet a lot, and for the most part i even like touch wiz. if however samsung doesnt get with the times this year with the plethora of 1080 screens and 3gb ram, 2+Ghz machines coming out Q4 this year and Q1 next year I will gladly give my money away to another. Samsung has in the past been on the cutting edge and I think they most likely will be this year as well, so I expect we will see a 1080p unit that I will adore. This was the best overall machine when i bought it imho because when you factor the power of the cpu, battery life and smooth running rom plus stylus the only detractor was the screen. That said its a new year and I expect more from the next generation or I will simply reserve my money for a unit that tops my current note 10.1. That could be asus or sony, or anyone. Im not a fanboy, i put my money where i get the best value on the highest end of tech.
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Your right getting the most bang for our your buck is important, that being said the note was on par with most of the Android tablets out there. I don't know much about how much more power it would use but i have heard that the nexus 10 that share a lot of the same hardware as the note has problems with stutter with some of the games that the note has no problem with. Text is a bit hard to read at times but there are ways to adjust it from within the browser or reader app you are using. Would I like a higher ppi, yes am I gonna complain about nope love the note and the s pen makes up for up for all of any shortcomings
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I totally agree with the OP. Screen isn't bad at all just that the text is a little hard at times, but nothing zooming in won't fix. I actually sold me Nexus 10 and got this device :laugh:. I have no regrets what so ever. I find myself using this tablet more than I did with the Nexus 10 because of its functionality. All the Nexus 10 got was a nice screen and that's it plus it had something called "Surface flinger" and memory leaks which makes the tablet extremely slow. The Note 10.1 works flawlessly.

Why I Love My Moto X

Why I love my Moto X even though I'm a spec lover.
1. Active Notifications - by far the best feature
2. Touchless Control - I'm using this more and more everyday.
3. Battery life
4. Small, compact and easy to hold.
5. X8 computing system. No lag whatsoever. Yes, smoother than my two other Snapdragon 600 phones.
6. Assembled in the US.
The phone is not perfect (camera, warm screen, 720 screen).
My other phones include S4 and LG Optimus Pro.
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I just bought the Moto Droid Maxx on Verizon. I've been using a GS4 and before that a Nexus 4.
I have to say, this phone is awesome. I'm loving active notifications, assist, and touchless control. They're changing the way that I use my phone.

martinezma99 said:
Why I love my Moto X even though I'm a spec lover.
1. Active Notifications - by far the best feature
2. Touchless Control - I'm using this more and more everyday.
3. Battery life
4. Small, compact and easy to hold.
5. X8 system. No lag whatsoever. Yes, smoother than my two other Snapdragon 600 phones.
6. Assembled in the US.
The phone is not perfect (camera, warm screen, 720 screen).
My other phones include S4 and LG Optimus Pro.
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a 4.7inch screen with an RGB matrix display with ppi above 300.. there is no way you would notice a difference compared to 1080p unless the screen technology itself is different. the resolution makes no difference and it just seems like such a petty thing to complain about. youre saving battery life. its the same way people who dont understand android think this phone sucks because its not quad core. lol.. you save battery and gain speed with the dualcore. its a lot more efficient. things like this will make it a hard phone to sell to the folks who like to brag about useless specs (aka the s3/s4 groupies)
warm screen can be adjusted with color multipliers and gamma settings
camera i really hope it sucks because of software like the first few batches of the htc one and not hardware related

The only time you can see a difference on the screen is when comparing Moto X to a 1080 screen side by side. The 720 screen is very good but not the best. I understand the decision behind the 720. As for it being warm, yes it can be changed but not out of the box like other phones (Samsung). For now, I'm stock with default settings.
I love the Moto X and highly recommend it.
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a 4.7inch screen with an RGB matrix display with ppi above 300.. there is no way you would notice a difference compared to 1080p unless the screen technology itself is different. the resolution makes no difference and it just seems like such a petty thing to complain about. youre saving battery life. its the same way people who dont understand android think this phone sucks because its not quad core. lol.. you save battery and gain speed with the dualcore. its a lot more efficient. things like this will make it a hard phone to sell to the folks who like to brag about useless specs (aka the s3/s4 groupies)
warm screen can be adjusted with color multipliers and gamma settings
camera i really hope it sucks because of software like the first few batches of the htc one and not hardware related
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I know people say that it's not noticeable. But it is. I have a Droid DNA 1080p. After using that, i can easily tell the difference. I even compared the same news article side by side. It's clearly more pleasurable to read on a 1080p screen than a 720p screen. That said, it could potentially be fixed with a font update as some of the font on the htc was thinner compared to the font on the moto x.

DonDizzurp said:
a 4.7inch screen with an RGB matrix display with ppi above 300.. there is no way you would notice a difference compared to 1080p unless the screen technology itself is different. the resolution makes no difference and it just seems like such a petty thing to complain about. youre saving battery life. its the same way people who dont understand android think this phone sucks because its not quad core. lol.. you save battery and gain speed with the dualcore. its a lot more efficient. things like this will make it a hard phone to sell to the folks who like to brag about useless specs (aka the s3/s4 groupies)
warm screen can be adjusted with color multipliers and gamma settings
camera i really hope it sucks because of software like the first few batches of the htc one and not hardware related
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You need to use a 1080p screen cause the difference is definitely noticeable. Put the HTC one next to the moto x and get ready to be blown away.
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I used the Moto X in an AT&T store next to my One and honestly I did not have any complaints.
Too many people way overreact to things especially to screen resolution, 720p is still overkill in my opinion.

I Am Marino said:
I used the Moto X in an AT&T store next to my One and honestly I did not have any complaints.
Too many people way overreact to things especially to screen resolution, 720p is still overkill in my opinion.
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Nobody is saying that the moto X has a bad screen or that 720p isn't good, it is. But a 1080p is better, plain and simple.
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barondebxl said:
Nobody is saying that the moto X has a bad screen or that 720p isn't good, it is. But a 1080p is better, plain and simple.
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Better technically, sure.
But a deal breaker, it shouldn't be, for the spec whores, this isn't your phone anyway.,

I Am Marino said:
Better technically, sure.
But a deal breaker, it shouldn't be, for the spec whores, this isn't your phone anyway.,
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Not a deal breaker at all. Some folks claim that you can't tell the difference between a 1080p vs 720p which is completely false.
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I Am Marino said:
Better technically, sure.
But a deal breaker, it shouldn't be, for the spec whores, this isn't your phone anyway.,
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It has nothing do with spec whores. It has everything to do with please your eye sight. If I personally can see a difference between 720p and 1080p then yes, its going to bother me. If its correctable thought some font/sorcery then we got something.
And why wouldn't you want the most important item (the screen) to be satisfying. But to each to their own.

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And why wouldn't you want the most important item (the screen) to be satisfying. But to each to their own.
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Because at the end of the day, it's still a HD screen with a PPI over 300 which is the supposed maximum amount a normal eye can notice.
I don't buy most people who say "Well I can see the difference" Not to discredit those of you who really might be able to but most are dead lying and I'm sure of it.
But as you said, to each their own.

anaphora68 said:
I just bought the Moto Droid Maxx on Verizon. I've been using a GS4 and before that a Nexus 4.
I have to say, this phone is awesome. I'm loving active notifications, assist, and touchless control. They're changing the way that I use my phone.
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I'd be really interested in hearing your thoughts on the Moto X vs the Moto Droid Maxx. From what I can gather, the Moto X has only three main benefits over the Maxx:
Moto maker customisation
Much better looking
A little bit cheaper
I'm not fussed about the customisation. It looking better and being a bit cheaper are nice but no way a deal breaker.
On the flip side, the Maxx as the following benefits:
Much bigger battery
Wireless charging
Larger screen (not that important for me)
In short, the benefits of the Moto X aren't that great for me. However, most of the benefits of the Maxx are massive bonuses for me.
With the main benefit of the Moto X being the customisation, I really don't know why people are choosing the Moto X over the Maxx especially with the following downsides to the customisation:
Not yet available
Will be carrier exclusive when it does start
Not all options will be available to start with (e.g. wood)
Some options will cost a premium (e.g. wood).
Moto Maxx just seems like the obvious choice.
Any thoughts or opinions?

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Moto Maxx just seems like the obvious choice.
Any thoughts or opinions?
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I think your points are valid. To me the design is the deciding factor. The Droid phones look ugly to me and will be greasy finger print magnets (case free living for me). As long as I get a full day of battery from the X then that is all I need.

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I think your points are valid. To me the design is the deciding factor. The Droid phones look ugly to me and will be greasy finger print magnets (case free living for me). As long as I get a full day of battery from the X then that is all I need.
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I agree. I'll grant the Maxx is not as big a fingerprint magnet as the Ultra, but I still find the Droid line to be boxy and butt ugly. Not something I'm interested in at all.

DammitCubs said:
I know people say that it's not noticeable. But it is. I have a Droid DNA 1080p. After using that, i can easily tell the difference. I even compared the same news article side by side. It's clearly more pleasurable to read on a 1080p screen than a 720p screen. That said, it could potentially be fixed with a font update as some of the font on the htc was thinner compared to the font on the moto x.
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You need to use a 1080p screen cause the difference is definitely noticeable. Put the HTC one next to the moto x and get ready to be blown away.
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The HTC One uses an LCD screen. Like I mentioned in my post, 720 vs 1080 on such a small screen makes absolutely no difference if the technology is the same. If Motorola used the exact same screen technology but used a 1080 resolution instead, it would hardly be noticeable and by hardly I mean BARELY unless you're staring at the screen close up in a completely dark room.

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The HTC One uses an LCD screen. Like I mentioned in my post, 720 vs 1080 on such a small screen makes absolutely no difference if the technology is the same. If Motorola used the exact same screen technology but used a 1080 resolution instead, it would hardly be noticeable and by hardly I mean BARELY unless you're staring at the screen close up in a completely dark room.
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I just compared it to a GS4. So that's Amoled vs Amoled.......yeah I can still tell. It's noticeable. I must have amazing eyes.
Pixel density is pixel density. And the magic number isn't 316 ppi, it's higher. Resolution is the same as a dead pixel, once you notice it's flaw. it's over.

I am looking right now at a Galaxy S3 306 PPI, and an HTC one .. ( Over 400 ), and whoever says the human eye can't distinguish the difference is downright blind, an idiot or has an agenda of some sort ..

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I am looking right now at a Galaxy S3 306 PPI, and an HTC one .. ( Over 400 ), and whoever says the human eye can't distinguish the difference is downright blind, an idiot or has an agenda of some sort ..
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Two completely different screen technologies. You are always going to notice the difference between an Amoled and an LCD, regardless of PPI count. Funny, most people mention PPI as if they've been counting it all their lives. Screens are personal preferences, and people have different eyesights and color sensitivities, so there's no right answer. Just accept that and move on.

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I am looking right now at a Galaxy S3 306 PPI, and an HTC one .. ( Over 400 ), and whoever says the human eye can't distinguish the difference is downright blind, an idiot or has an agenda of some sort ..
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They're just justifying things after the fact.
There is absolutely a difference. Granted, the X is better due to the lack of pentile, but I can still quite easily tell. It's not horrible in terms of pixel density, but the display isn't great by any other metric.

My review of the One, about 1 year on

Hey there chaps. I've done a little review after using the phone for almost a full year now and wanted to share it. Love the phone, it's been a breath of fresh air owning it this year. Let's hope the M8 carries on the awesomeness!
HTC One Review

Good review...you basically spoke for me when describing the phone and touched on the key selling points of the phone. Now to see what the new version has in store when in person.
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Hey thanks. Yeh it's been a brilliant phone. I really hope the new one is good but atm it looks like HTC have done a bit of a Samsung and just done a (questionably) mildly better new device. Sad about the 5" screen though. Lower resolution then the M7 is the rumours are true.
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horsetastic said:
Hey thanks. Yeh it's been a brilliant phone. I really hope the new one is good but atm it looks like HTC have done a bit of a Samsung and just done a (questionably) mildly better new device. Sad about the 5" screen though. Lower resolution then the M7 is the rumours are true.
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How could it be a lower resolution?
Still 1080p.... A lower ppi however, though that won't be noticeable

crixley said:
How could it be a lower resolution?
Still 1080p.... A lower ppi however, though that won't be noticeable
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Yea I just caught that too, must have meant ppi...no problem, I think we are all smart enough to know...maybe a slight edit due for the review for the less knowledgeable readers?
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1080p on a 5" screen = lower ppi which is lower level of resolution IMO. Less is less. And though it is all 'apparently' above what the human eye can tell the difference between, I don't know why HTC have chosen what in my eyes is a downgrade with the new device. Unless it ends up being just rumours after all.
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Dont think the new one will do that well compared to other devices it's going to have to offer something really unique and iam not really felling it with pictures and rumours. But iam sure it will be a great device and a good upgrade but not sure about it being a huge hit hope iam wrong though.
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1080p on a 5" screen = lower ppi which is lower level of resolution IMO. Less is less. And though it is all 'apparently' above what the human eye can tell the difference between, I don't know why HTC have chosen what in my eyes is a downgrade with the new device. Unless it ends up being just rumours after all.
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By writing this, it is apparent you don't know what resolution is.
Ppi and resolution are not the same thing...
It is the same resolution, not lower level of resolution.
Electrical engineer here btw
Also it is such a minute difference that it will not be noticeable.
Higher at 5 inches (4K for example) is just overkill

Ok guys ok, let's not let this thread become a pissing contest please, it started out as a positive thread and quickly escalated to "who knows more", which isn't productive and to be honest kinda immature for no real reason...
The resolutions are the same, screen is slightly bigger in New one which will lower the ppi a tiny bit which will probably be undetectable to the naked eye in the real world...only difference if there is any, will be the vividness of the colors since the pixels will be ever so slightly further apart...
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This has been the best phone I have had. Better than the S3 plastic poop I had before!
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If anything lower ppi better battery
Those who had HoX like I did know how superb screen it had and it was only 318ppi +720p , I barely saw the difference on m7 with FHD +468PPI , why worry anyway ...amoled screens are pentile and lower resolution then ours and still are crisp almost as ours. Like I said no worries here unless you belive more is always better
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Shan89 said:
If anything lower ppi better battery
Those who had HoX like I did know how superb screen it had and it was only 318ppi +720p , I barely saw the difference on m7 with FHD +468PPI , why worry anyway ...amoled screens are pentile and lower resolution then ours and still are crisp almost as ours. Like I said no worries here unless you belive more is always better
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Exactly....
I think 1080p is the upper limit on a phone. The bump to 2k or 4K is just going to cause unnecessary battery drain and is more of a "whose e peen is bigger" thing than a useful addition.
More battery drain, more taxing on the processor...
I could see on a tablet, but not on a phone 6 inches or smaller.

I still love my One. Nothing has yet to match it in terms of build quality and design. It's no wonder it won the Smartphone of the year award at MWC:
http://www.globalmobileawards.com/winners-2014/#cat_id22
and I agree with your all points especially the point you made regarding the Highlights Themes being removed :crying:. I have even contemplated reverting back to Sense 5.0 to get them back.

A year on, this phone is still blazing. Although...I made a switch to GPE (sinless) which honestly flies faster and has better battery. I don't really miss Zoe or any of the sense apps. The hardware is enough for me to love HTC.
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ahmadmfz said:
A year on, this phone is still blazing. Although...I made a switch to GPE (sinless) which honestly flies faster and has better battery. I don't really miss Zoe or any of the sense apps. The hardware is enough for me to love HTC.
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I have actually heard the opposite, that sense is much better as far as battery life. What is your typical screen on time?

crixley said:
Exactly....
I think 1080p is the upper limit on a phone. The bump to 2k or 4K is just going to cause unnecessary battery drain and is more of a "whose e peen is bigger" thing than a useful addition.
More battery drain, more taxing on the processor...
I could see on a tablet, but not on a phone 6 inches or smaller.
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I agree

crixley said:
I have actually heard the opposite, that sense is much better as far as battery life. What is your typical screen on time?
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Sense is better for battery then GPE

horsetastic said:
Sense is better for battery then GPE
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World make sense too (bad pun I know), since it would be more fine tuned for the one's hardware. I get great battery life on sense but not so much in the brief period I tried gpe.

crixley said:
By writing this, it is apparent you don't know what resolution is.
Ppi and resolution are not the same thing...
It is the same resolution, not lower level of resolution.
Electrical engineer here btw
Also it is such a minute difference that it will not be noticeable.
Higher at 5 inches (4K for example) is just overkill
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I wasn't intending on this becoming a pis#ing match and I did state that it was only my opinion. I know the technical description of resolution however to me it includes the clarity of an image and that is down to the PPI. Of course a 5" and a 50" screen can have the same resolution and you would chose which ever one suited your needs the best but the 5" display will always show the image better than the 50".
If you look at the defenition of resolution you'll find that is actually means "the degree of detail visible in a photographic or television image" this is what equates to something being "a high-resolution monitor". Hence I have formed my opinion based on this.
Electrical Mechanical Design Engineer here btw
And, still to me there's no need for HTC to have upped the screen size to 5". Nothing wrong with the 4.7" on the One. It is an epic phone and the high PPI was a good selling point. I know the're probably just trying to compete with the S5 etc but to me the screen size should have been left alone.

Let's not forget that even 1080P is an overkill on our little 4.7 inch screens, my tv is 46 inches big with the same resolution as my phone! This is nuts! Why don't they take it down to 720P and gain a massive battery life boost

Note 5 rumors already

I've read several just released articles about samsung producing a 5.9 inch 4k screen for it.
http://www.technobuffalo.com/2014/11/06/galaxy-note-5-might-sport-ultra-hd-4k-display/
My understanding over the years is that on screens this size you would really not be able to tell the difference between the two anyway.
So any experts out there can you provide insight.
Will it be noticeable on phone screens at the level we are now.....

Although the prospect of it is fun to talk about, I'm too in love with my note 4 to think about that right now. I wouldn't doubt samsung will not want to be out done in their own space but unless they can squeeze 5.9 inch screen into this same form factor and achieve the same battery, no thanks imo.

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masri1987 said:
Are you not familiar with the industry? This is how it gies
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I agree, I think everyone will say you can't tell the difference, nobody wants that. But if they pull it off with good battery life and decent form factor, everyone will want it, even if they can't tell the difference (ie 720P -> 1080P -> 2160P).

Yea. 5.9 is too much. 5.7 is extreme borderline. That's one reason I have no interest in the Nexus 6. It's too big, and it's only big for the sake of being big. Doesn't offer any extra functionality with its size like the note does

They should have released the note 4 with a 6" screen. Same size or a tad bigger would have been perfect.

I read somewhere that the naked eye doesn't even see a difference between 1080p and 4K until you have a screen size of 50 inches. That said, on a Smartphone, it'd be pointless. Then again, I did see this page that has a chart that contains the distance from your monitor vs the size of your monitor, and shows a line where you'd see a difference. Not sure how accurate this is. The chart only goes down to 2 ft (viewing distance) and a 20 inch monitor. Most of us may be looking at are phones from about 1 ft away, roughly. That said, I can't imagine 4k actually making a difference, on screen. Now, if the phone were to get docked and the content was viewed on a TV, that'd obviously be a different story.
http://www.rtings.com/info/4k-ultra-hd-uhd-vs-1080p-full-hd-tvs

Rippley05 said:
Yea. 5.9 is too much. 5.7 is extreme borderline. That's one reason I have no interest in the Nexus 6. It's too big, and it's only big for the sake of being big. Doesn't offer any extra functionality with its size like the note does
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Agreed.
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I don't mind big screens. I saw 2 weeks ago about a phone the Hisense X1 (I think that's the name) but it is supposed to be here in the next few weeks they say. It's an overs seas right now but it's got a freaking 6.8 inch 1080 screen and the usual specs.
The damn thing comes with a remote control for it which I've never heard of.
That might be much but for me my ideal would be 6.
I don't talk that much and I mainly use my 4 for writing and as a computer.

leyvatron said:
They should have released the note 4 with a 6" screen. Same size or a tad bigger would have been perfect.
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Agreed. If this baby was 6 inches I would consider it the perfect phone. Aside from Lockzilla and their pita control

JOSHSKORN said:
I read somewhere that the naked eye doesn't even see a difference between 1080p and 4K until you have a screen size of 50 inches. That said, on a Smartphone, it'd be pointless. Then again, I did see this page that has a chart that contains the distance from your monitor vs the size of your monitor, and shows a line where you'd see a difference. Not sure how accurate this is. The chart only goes down to 2 ft (viewing distance) and a 20 inch monitor. Most of us may be looking at are phones from about 1 ft away, roughly. That said, I can't imagine 4k actually making a difference, on screen. Now, if the phone were to get docked and the content was viewed on a TV, that'd obviously be a different story.
http://www.rtings.com/info/4k-ultra-hd-uhd-vs-1080p-full-hd-tvs
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I as well have been told by TV experts that unless your TV is 50 inches or bigger you wouldn't tell if it was 720 or 1080.
I just was not sure if the principle applied to phones as well.
I will say I had to operate on my wife's S4 last night and it made me love this screen even more.

masri1987 said:
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Yeah I know that they will continue screen wars always until it's 20k. I was just wondering on these phone screens if it would make a noticeable difference or basically be a marketing point

Short of 64 bit architecture what would actually be changed for the N5?

sprintuser1977 said:
Yeah I know that they will continue screen wars always until it's 20k. I was just wondering on these phone screens if it would make a noticeable difference or basically be a marketing point
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the science says your eyes won't tell the difference,
but your OCD tells you that you will, it tells me that too. but it's best to ignore it.

Rumor has it the Note 6 will be out after the Note 5.

I can easily tell the difference between 720p and 1080p on my 40" tv at any distance from 2in to 15ft, I have an S5 and can definitely tell the difference between that and my old Droid Razr HD when holding it between 4 in from my nose and full arms length (approx 2'), I have both and use both every day, the HD although 720p is one of the sharpest cell phone screens I have ever seen, but the S5 is so much better, I can still see the pixels (when extremely close) on the Razr HD, but not at all on the S5. I am not interested in 4k at all, 2k would be nice I think, but not the right format for the display dimensions of the standard phone shape.
That said, I eagerly await the opportunity to order a Note 4 DE, the only thing that would change my mind on that is if Samsung announces a 2015 12.2" note pro model with reasonably decent specs (the last one was spec'd too low).

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JOSHSKORN said:
I read somewhere that the naked eye doesn't even see a difference between 1080p and 4K until you have a screen size of 50 inches. That said, on a Smartphone, it'd be pointless. Then again, I did see this page that has a chart that contains the distance from your monitor vs the size of your monitor, and shows a line where you'd see a difference. Not sure how accurate this is. The chart only goes down to 2 ft (viewing distance) and a 20 inch monitor. Most of us may be looking at are phones from about 1 ft away, roughly. That said, I can't imagine 4k actually making a difference, on screen. Now, if the phone were to get docked and the content was viewed on a TV, that'd obviously be a different story.
http://www.rtings.com/info/4k-ultra-hd-uhd-vs-1080p-full-hd-tvs
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Just my two cents...I personally can tell a huge difference between the 1080p S5 and the QuadHD display of the LG G3. And I'm a Samsung guy. Anyways, I'm back on the 900T. So much snappier and reliable but I do miss the G3's screen terribly. Lol...

ronaldheld said:
Short of 64 bit architecture what would actually be changed for the N5?
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Snap dragon 805 is a 64bit chip... KitKat isn't 64bit....

Boss428man said:
Snap dragon 805 is a 64bit chip... KitKat isn't 64bit....
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Sorry, but the Snapdragon 805 is not a 64 bit chip.

Redapple63 said:
Sorry, but the Snapdragon 805 is not a 64 bit chip.
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I'm no chip expert, but everything I have read has confirmed this.
The next one will be 64, but apps and games no where near max out the current tech we have.
It will probably be forever before 64 bit tech is taken advantage of.