Why I love my Moto X even though I'm a spec lover.
1. Active Notifications - by far the best feature
2. Touchless Control - I'm using this more and more everyday.
3. Battery life
4. Small, compact and easy to hold.
5. X8 computing system. No lag whatsoever. Yes, smoother than my two other Snapdragon 600 phones.
6. Assembled in the US.
The phone is not perfect (camera, warm screen, 720 screen).
My other phones include S4 and LG Optimus Pro.
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I just bought the Moto Droid Maxx on Verizon. I've been using a GS4 and before that a Nexus 4.
I have to say, this phone is awesome. I'm loving active notifications, assist, and touchless control. They're changing the way that I use my phone.
martinezma99 said:
Why I love my Moto X even though I'm a spec lover.
1. Active Notifications - by far the best feature
2. Touchless Control - I'm using this more and more everyday.
3. Battery life
4. Small, compact and easy to hold.
5. X8 system. No lag whatsoever. Yes, smoother than my two other Snapdragon 600 phones.
6. Assembled in the US.
The phone is not perfect (camera, warm screen, 720 screen).
My other phones include S4 and LG Optimus Pro.
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a 4.7inch screen with an RGB matrix display with ppi above 300.. there is no way you would notice a difference compared to 1080p unless the screen technology itself is different. the resolution makes no difference and it just seems like such a petty thing to complain about. youre saving battery life. its the same way people who dont understand android think this phone sucks because its not quad core. lol.. you save battery and gain speed with the dualcore. its a lot more efficient. things like this will make it a hard phone to sell to the folks who like to brag about useless specs (aka the s3/s4 groupies)
warm screen can be adjusted with color multipliers and gamma settings
camera i really hope it sucks because of software like the first few batches of the htc one and not hardware related
The only time you can see a difference on the screen is when comparing Moto X to a 1080 screen side by side. The 720 screen is very good but not the best. I understand the decision behind the 720. As for it being warm, yes it can be changed but not out of the box like other phones (Samsung). For now, I'm stock with default settings.
I love the Moto X and highly recommend it.
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a 4.7inch screen with an RGB matrix display with ppi above 300.. there is no way you would notice a difference compared to 1080p unless the screen technology itself is different. the resolution makes no difference and it just seems like such a petty thing to complain about. youre saving battery life. its the same way people who dont understand android think this phone sucks because its not quad core. lol.. you save battery and gain speed with the dualcore. its a lot more efficient. things like this will make it a hard phone to sell to the folks who like to brag about useless specs (aka the s3/s4 groupies)
warm screen can be adjusted with color multipliers and gamma settings
camera i really hope it sucks because of software like the first few batches of the htc one and not hardware related
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I know people say that it's not noticeable. But it is. I have a Droid DNA 1080p. After using that, i can easily tell the difference. I even compared the same news article side by side. It's clearly more pleasurable to read on a 1080p screen than a 720p screen. That said, it could potentially be fixed with a font update as some of the font on the htc was thinner compared to the font on the moto x.
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a 4.7inch screen with an RGB matrix display with ppi above 300.. there is no way you would notice a difference compared to 1080p unless the screen technology itself is different. the resolution makes no difference and it just seems like such a petty thing to complain about. youre saving battery life. its the same way people who dont understand android think this phone sucks because its not quad core. lol.. you save battery and gain speed with the dualcore. its a lot more efficient. things like this will make it a hard phone to sell to the folks who like to brag about useless specs (aka the s3/s4 groupies)
warm screen can be adjusted with color multipliers and gamma settings
camera i really hope it sucks because of software like the first few batches of the htc one and not hardware related
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You need to use a 1080p screen cause the difference is definitely noticeable. Put the HTC one next to the moto x and get ready to be blown away.
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I used the Moto X in an AT&T store next to my One and honestly I did not have any complaints.
Too many people way overreact to things especially to screen resolution, 720p is still overkill in my opinion.
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I used the Moto X in an AT&T store next to my One and honestly I did not have any complaints.
Too many people way overreact to things especially to screen resolution, 720p is still overkill in my opinion.
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Nobody is saying that the moto X has a bad screen or that 720p isn't good, it is. But a 1080p is better, plain and simple.
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Nobody is saying that the moto X has a bad screen or that 720p isn't good, it is. But a 1080p is better, plain and simple.
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Better technically, sure.
But a deal breaker, it shouldn't be, for the spec whores, this isn't your phone anyway.,
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Better technically, sure.
But a deal breaker, it shouldn't be, for the spec whores, this isn't your phone anyway.,
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Not a deal breaker at all. Some folks claim that you can't tell the difference between a 1080p vs 720p which is completely false.
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Better technically, sure.
But a deal breaker, it shouldn't be, for the spec whores, this isn't your phone anyway.,
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It has nothing do with spec whores. It has everything to do with please your eye sight. If I personally can see a difference between 720p and 1080p then yes, its going to bother me. If its correctable thought some font/sorcery then we got something.
And why wouldn't you want the most important item (the screen) to be satisfying. But to each to their own.
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And why wouldn't you want the most important item (the screen) to be satisfying. But to each to their own.
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Because at the end of the day, it's still a HD screen with a PPI over 300 which is the supposed maximum amount a normal eye can notice.
I don't buy most people who say "Well I can see the difference" Not to discredit those of you who really might be able to but most are dead lying and I'm sure of it.
But as you said, to each their own.
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I just bought the Moto Droid Maxx on Verizon. I've been using a GS4 and before that a Nexus 4.
I have to say, this phone is awesome. I'm loving active notifications, assist, and touchless control. They're changing the way that I use my phone.
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I'd be really interested in hearing your thoughts on the Moto X vs the Moto Droid Maxx. From what I can gather, the Moto X has only three main benefits over the Maxx:
Moto maker customisation
Much better looking
A little bit cheaper
I'm not fussed about the customisation. It looking better and being a bit cheaper are nice but no way a deal breaker.
On the flip side, the Maxx as the following benefits:
Much bigger battery
Wireless charging
Larger screen (not that important for me)
In short, the benefits of the Moto X aren't that great for me. However, most of the benefits of the Maxx are massive bonuses for me.
With the main benefit of the Moto X being the customisation, I really don't know why people are choosing the Moto X over the Maxx especially with the following downsides to the customisation:
Not yet available
Will be carrier exclusive when it does start
Not all options will be available to start with (e.g. wood)
Some options will cost a premium (e.g. wood).
Moto Maxx just seems like the obvious choice.
Any thoughts or opinions?
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Moto Maxx just seems like the obvious choice.
Any thoughts or opinions?
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I think your points are valid. To me the design is the deciding factor. The Droid phones look ugly to me and will be greasy finger print magnets (case free living for me). As long as I get a full day of battery from the X then that is all I need.
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I think your points are valid. To me the design is the deciding factor. The Droid phones look ugly to me and will be greasy finger print magnets (case free living for me). As long as I get a full day of battery from the X then that is all I need.
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I agree. I'll grant the Maxx is not as big a fingerprint magnet as the Ultra, but I still find the Droid line to be boxy and butt ugly. Not something I'm interested in at all.
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I know people say that it's not noticeable. But it is. I have a Droid DNA 1080p. After using that, i can easily tell the difference. I even compared the same news article side by side. It's clearly more pleasurable to read on a 1080p screen than a 720p screen. That said, it could potentially be fixed with a font update as some of the font on the htc was thinner compared to the font on the moto x.
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You need to use a 1080p screen cause the difference is definitely noticeable. Put the HTC one next to the moto x and get ready to be blown away.
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The HTC One uses an LCD screen. Like I mentioned in my post, 720 vs 1080 on such a small screen makes absolutely no difference if the technology is the same. If Motorola used the exact same screen technology but used a 1080 resolution instead, it would hardly be noticeable and by hardly I mean BARELY unless you're staring at the screen close up in a completely dark room.
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The HTC One uses an LCD screen. Like I mentioned in my post, 720 vs 1080 on such a small screen makes absolutely no difference if the technology is the same. If Motorola used the exact same screen technology but used a 1080 resolution instead, it would hardly be noticeable and by hardly I mean BARELY unless you're staring at the screen close up in a completely dark room.
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I just compared it to a GS4. So that's Amoled vs Amoled.......yeah I can still tell. It's noticeable. I must have amazing eyes.
Pixel density is pixel density. And the magic number isn't 316 ppi, it's higher. Resolution is the same as a dead pixel, once you notice it's flaw. it's over.
I am looking right now at a Galaxy S3 306 PPI, and an HTC one .. ( Over 400 ), and whoever says the human eye can't distinguish the difference is downright blind, an idiot or has an agenda of some sort ..
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I am looking right now at a Galaxy S3 306 PPI, and an HTC one .. ( Over 400 ), and whoever says the human eye can't distinguish the difference is downright blind, an idiot or has an agenda of some sort ..
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Two completely different screen technologies. You are always going to notice the difference between an Amoled and an LCD, regardless of PPI count. Funny, most people mention PPI as if they've been counting it all their lives. Screens are personal preferences, and people have different eyesights and color sensitivities, so there's no right answer. Just accept that and move on.
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I am looking right now at a Galaxy S3 306 PPI, and an HTC one .. ( Over 400 ), and whoever says the human eye can't distinguish the difference is downright blind, an idiot or has an agenda of some sort ..
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They're just justifying things after the fact.
There is absolutely a difference. Granted, the X is better due to the lack of pentile, but I can still quite easily tell. It's not horrible in terms of pixel density, but the display isn't great by any other metric.
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leaked specs from MWC, big surprise no orion on the samsung.
http://www.droiddog.com/android-blo...-2/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
Last I heard, Samsung was going to Tegra chips, not Qualcomm. If those specs are true, I'll likely go elsewhere for my next phone.
This makes no sense... Adreno 205 is actually a downgrade from what we have.
Doesn't matter, never again am I getting a Samsung phone (I do however love the developers for putting such effort into being the software updaters of the Fascinate). Next phone is a Bionic, guaranteed.
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This makes no sense... Adreno 205 is actually a downgrade from what we have.
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Yeah, at best, it'd be on par with what we have. The only thing that combo has going for it is multi-core.
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Doesn't matter, never again am I getting a Samsung phone (I do however love the developers for putting such effort into being the software updaters of the Fascinate). Next phone is a Bionic, guaranteed.
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Why? If they leave the phone completely open as they have done with this, devs will come on board and fix whatever issues there are. You can always fix the software side, but you can't fix hardware.
Unless Samsung makes their phones out of something a little more solid than plastic, and improves theirs GPS, call quality, and signal, Motorola is doing to have the edge in all these areas. Themes and custom roms are good enough for me, and Tegra 2 is speedy enough to last for a pretty long time.
Different specs posted on Android Central that look more believable to me, see here
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/10/samsung-dubs-its-mobile-processors-exynos-dual-core-4210-forme/
Looks like they will be using their own processors
Many different specs on many retailers sites, the confusion persists...
For me, if it keeps being 800x480, then better wait for qHD devices...
BGR has a review of the Atrix. Here is what they say about the qHD screen:
"The 4-inch display on the ATRIX packs a whopping 960 x 540 pixels into what Motorola is calling a qHD display. While the resolution is quite high, the display to us still looked pretty pixelated. It’s a little odd that the display on the Motorola DROID X actually looks better than the qHD display, in terms of clarity. Colors, however, look great and the panel is very bright and evenly lit. The screen on the ATRIX also fares very well in the touch sensitivity department with a solid and reliable capacitative touch screen."
http://www.bgr.com/2011/02/09/motorola-atrix-4g-review/
More pixels doesn't mean better. The Droid X screen isn't very good to begin with, and they say it looks worse than that. The youtube videos of the Atrix from CES don't flatter the screen either. Unless Google optimizes everything for the qHD display, it only has limited uses and with this screen at least, many visual drawbacks. qHD on the Atrix, another numbers game with little gain.
I can't get enough of sammies super amoleds...
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"The 4-inch display on the ATRIX packs a whopping 960 x 540 pixels into what Motorola is calling a qHD display. While the resolution is quite high, the display to us still looked pretty pixelated. It’s a little odd that the display on the Motorola DROID X actually looks better than the qHD display, in terms of clarity.
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More pixels doesn't mean better... qHD on the Atrix, another numbers game with little gain.
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Many thanks for these info
Thought it was really better with higher res
If it were a "revolutionary" retina display it would be good.
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BGR has a review of the Atrix. Here is what they say about the qHD screen:
"The 4-inch display on the ATRIX packs a whopping 960 x 540 pixels into what Motorola is calling a qHD display. While the resolution is quite high, the display to us still looked pretty pixelated. It’s a little odd that the display on the Motorola DROID X actually looks better than the qHD display, in terms of clarity. Colors, however, look great and the panel is very bright and evenly lit. The screen on the ATRIX also fares very well in the touch sensitivity department with a solid and reliable capacitative touch screen."
http://www.bgr.com/2011/02/09/motorola-atrix-4g-review/
More pixels doesn't mean better. The Droid X screen isn't very good to begin with, and they say it looks worse than that. The youtube videos of the Atrix from CES don't flatter the screen either. Unless Google optimizes everything for the qHD display, it only has limited uses and with this screen at least, many visual drawbacks. qHD on the Atrix, another numbers game with little gain.
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A display is only as good as the media its displaying. If Moto doesn't beef up their icons, then the extra res wont matter. That being said, the phone is capable of much better resolution than any phone, bested only by the iPhone, however, the SF has us all spoiled in the color depth and clarity dept.
Isn't the sub pixel density much higher on the new samsung screens? If so, count me in. This phone is pretty good as is, has a great dev community and with a better screen and faster internals, what's not to like? Please don't say "lack of froyo on the fascinate," because it did take a long time, but we have it now.
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Its not the "lack" of froyo, my friends refuse to mod their phone and they dont have it. Its the lack of support, I really used to like samsung, but in overall product I was really let down by this product.
I am taking it as far as I might not get one of their TVs now, I have a friend who had to get his replaced, and my dads 3D wont work. Just feels like samsung is falling down all around me.
To be released this month
What a slap in the face -- I just got my fascinate a week ago. lol.
Looks like the only way I'll ever see 2.3 (or anything official beyond 2.1) will be by buying up a GS2
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Isn't the sub pixel density much higher on the new samsung screens? If so, count me in. This phone is pretty good as is, has a great dev community and with a better screen and faster internals, what's not to like? Please don't say "lack of froyo on the fascinate," because it did take a long time, but we have it now.
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The pixel density is claimed to be higher, but there was a side by side done with those screens, and it wasn't that much of a difference to the naked eye. I wouldn't get my hopes up....just sayin'
And you have to realize, we have it, and its floating around the internet now, but most users neither have the time or the know-how/balls to install something like that. Those are the people I truly feel sorry for, they're getting duped.
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To be released this month
What a slap in the face -- I just got my fascinate a week ago. lol.
Looks like the only way I'll ever see 2.3 (or anything official beyond 2.1) will be by buying up a GS2
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You should have ~15 days to return the phone if you "don't like it", if you really want the second one that badly.
KitsuneKnight said:
You should have ~15 days to return the phone if you "don't like it", if you really want the second one that badly.
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I'm more than content with the phone.. esp with all the XDA dev love
I just have a horrible habit of buying tech and then a >month later a new version releases. lol.
Hey there chaps. I've done a little review after using the phone for almost a full year now and wanted to share it. Love the phone, it's been a breath of fresh air owning it this year. Let's hope the M8 carries on the awesomeness!
HTC One Review
Good review...you basically spoke for me when describing the phone and touched on the key selling points of the phone. Now to see what the new version has in store when in person.
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Hey thanks. Yeh it's been a brilliant phone. I really hope the new one is good but atm it looks like HTC have done a bit of a Samsung and just done a (questionably) mildly better new device. Sad about the 5" screen though. Lower resolution then the M7 is the rumours are true.
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Hey thanks. Yeh it's been a brilliant phone. I really hope the new one is good but atm it looks like HTC have done a bit of a Samsung and just done a (questionably) mildly better new device. Sad about the 5" screen though. Lower resolution then the M7 is the rumours are true.
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How could it be a lower resolution?
Still 1080p.... A lower ppi however, though that won't be noticeable
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How could it be a lower resolution?
Still 1080p.... A lower ppi however, though that won't be noticeable
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Yea I just caught that too, must have meant ppi...no problem, I think we are all smart enough to know...maybe a slight edit due for the review for the less knowledgeable readers?
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1080p on a 5" screen = lower ppi which is lower level of resolution IMO. Less is less. And though it is all 'apparently' above what the human eye can tell the difference between, I don't know why HTC have chosen what in my eyes is a downgrade with the new device. Unless it ends up being just rumours after all.
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Dont think the new one will do that well compared to other devices it's going to have to offer something really unique and iam not really felling it with pictures and rumours. But iam sure it will be a great device and a good upgrade but not sure about it being a huge hit hope iam wrong though.
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1080p on a 5" screen = lower ppi which is lower level of resolution IMO. Less is less. And though it is all 'apparently' above what the human eye can tell the difference between, I don't know why HTC have chosen what in my eyes is a downgrade with the new device. Unless it ends up being just rumours after all.
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By writing this, it is apparent you don't know what resolution is.
Ppi and resolution are not the same thing...
It is the same resolution, not lower level of resolution.
Electrical engineer here btw
Also it is such a minute difference that it will not be noticeable.
Higher at 5 inches (4K for example) is just overkill
Ok guys ok, let's not let this thread become a pissing contest please, it started out as a positive thread and quickly escalated to "who knows more", which isn't productive and to be honest kinda immature for no real reason...
The resolutions are the same, screen is slightly bigger in New one which will lower the ppi a tiny bit which will probably be undetectable to the naked eye in the real world...only difference if there is any, will be the vividness of the colors since the pixels will be ever so slightly further apart...
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This has been the best phone I have had. Better than the S3 plastic poop I had before!
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If anything lower ppi better battery
Those who had HoX like I did know how superb screen it had and it was only 318ppi +720p , I barely saw the difference on m7 with FHD +468PPI , why worry anyway ...amoled screens are pentile and lower resolution then ours and still are crisp almost as ours. Like I said no worries here unless you belive more is always better
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If anything lower ppi better battery
Those who had HoX like I did know how superb screen it had and it was only 318ppi +720p , I barely saw the difference on m7 with FHD +468PPI , why worry anyway ...amoled screens are pentile and lower resolution then ours and still are crisp almost as ours. Like I said no worries here unless you belive more is always better
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Exactly....
I think 1080p is the upper limit on a phone. The bump to 2k or 4K is just going to cause unnecessary battery drain and is more of a "whose e peen is bigger" thing than a useful addition.
More battery drain, more taxing on the processor...
I could see on a tablet, but not on a phone 6 inches or smaller.
I still love my One. Nothing has yet to match it in terms of build quality and design. It's no wonder it won the Smartphone of the year award at MWC:
http://www.globalmobileawards.com/winners-2014/#cat_id22
and I agree with your all points especially the point you made regarding the Highlights Themes being removed :crying:. I have even contemplated reverting back to Sense 5.0 to get them back.
A year on, this phone is still blazing. Although...I made a switch to GPE (sinless) which honestly flies faster and has better battery. I don't really miss Zoe or any of the sense apps. The hardware is enough for me to love HTC.
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A year on, this phone is still blazing. Although...I made a switch to GPE (sinless) which honestly flies faster and has better battery. I don't really miss Zoe or any of the sense apps. The hardware is enough for me to love HTC.
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I have actually heard the opposite, that sense is much better as far as battery life. What is your typical screen on time?
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Exactly....
I think 1080p is the upper limit on a phone. The bump to 2k or 4K is just going to cause unnecessary battery drain and is more of a "whose e peen is bigger" thing than a useful addition.
More battery drain, more taxing on the processor...
I could see on a tablet, but not on a phone 6 inches or smaller.
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I have actually heard the opposite, that sense is much better as far as battery life. What is your typical screen on time?
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Sense is better for battery then GPE
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Sense is better for battery then GPE
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World make sense too (bad pun I know), since it would be more fine tuned for the one's hardware. I get great battery life on sense but not so much in the brief period I tried gpe.
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By writing this, it is apparent you don't know what resolution is.
Ppi and resolution are not the same thing...
It is the same resolution, not lower level of resolution.
Electrical engineer here btw
Also it is such a minute difference that it will not be noticeable.
Higher at 5 inches (4K for example) is just overkill
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I wasn't intending on this becoming a pis#ing match and I did state that it was only my opinion. I know the technical description of resolution however to me it includes the clarity of an image and that is down to the PPI. Of course a 5" and a 50" screen can have the same resolution and you would chose which ever one suited your needs the best but the 5" display will always show the image better than the 50".
If you look at the defenition of resolution you'll find that is actually means "the degree of detail visible in a photographic or television image" this is what equates to something being "a high-resolution monitor". Hence I have formed my opinion based on this.
Electrical Mechanical Design Engineer here btw
And, still to me there's no need for HTC to have upped the screen size to 5". Nothing wrong with the 4.7" on the One. It is an epic phone and the high PPI was a good selling point. I know the're probably just trying to compete with the S5 etc but to me the screen size should have been left alone.
Let's not forget that even 1080P is an overkill on our little 4.7 inch screens, my tv is 46 inches big with the same resolution as my phone! This is nuts! Why don't they take it down to 720P and gain a massive battery life boost
http://9to5google.com/2014/04/06/moto-x-plus-one-coming-soon/
So color me intrigued! Anyone else wondering when and what the MOTO X +1 will entail?
AndreaCristiano said:
http://9to5google.com/2014/04/06/moto-x-plus-one-coming-soon/
So color me intrigued! Anyone else wondering when and what the MOTO X +1 will entail?
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I just hope they don't increase the screen size or dramatically alter the shape of it. If it has an identical body with nothing more than a spec bump I'll be THRILLED. 1080p amoled screen, faster processor, and 64gb storage but keep everything else the same and I will buy one the moment it drops. No need to mess with perfection.
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I just hope they don't increase the screen size or dramatically alter the shape of it. If it has an identical body with nothing more than a spec bump I'll be THRILLED. 1080p amoled screen, faster processor, and 64gb storage but keep everything else the same and I will buy one the moment it drops. No need to mess with perfection.
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i agree with this exactly honestly i woulsdnt complain if there was a 5 inch screen but kept the same form factor... more stoked about the moto 360 then this though..
apparently it is going to come in a leather option. https://twitter.com/evleaks/status/452952150302527488
Im just waiting to hear if it's going to be the same size or not. If it's revealed that it will be a bigger phone than the X then I'll spend my money on the current X. I'd be happy if the next X kept the same size with just a camera upgrade. We'll see soon I hope.
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Holy leather macaroni! I need a black front white leather back with silver accents right now!:victory:
I swear I said it yesterday before it came out that it was gonna have a leather option! I also agree if the screen size grows i pray the form factor doesnt. I mean there is space now to remove that can increase the screen and minimilize bezels
If this new Moto X is enticing enough, I'm actually thinking about selling my Dev edition and upgrading. However, this new X will have to seriously wow me, in terms of looks, specs, and price. Has to be all 3 of those, not just 1 or 2.
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If this new Moto X is enticing enough, I'm actually thinking about selling my Dev edition and upgrading. However, this new X will have to seriously wow me, in terms of looks, specs, and price. Has to be all 3 of those, not just 1 or 2.
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one thing that the X "failed" at was competing in the "more is everything" spec war. which is entirely unfortunate given this is easily the best android device i've owned since the original DROID. with that said, i don't want Moto to give in to the spec war. previous articles have mentioned that whatever the X successor will be, it will be a "premium" model.
so far for the X+1, i've seen reports of a 6" screen, which is absolutely and completely a horrible idea. if they shrunk the bezel to "nothing" and kept the form factor, then fine, increase the screen. but the form factor is damn near perfect.
and honestly, i wouldn't care if they kept the most of the same internals, but more RAM, extra storage and wireless charging top my list as things that are a must with the new device. or if they're going to skip wireless charge, a bigger battery.
What to keep:
Active notifications
Touchless control
I don't mind the 720p resolution
Great better life (before 4.4.2)
What to add:
Wireless charging
4.8" to 5" screen but similar form factor.
Bigger battery
Better camera
Better picture/video gallery
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Jamolah said:
What to keep:
Active notifications
Touchless control
I don't mind the 720p resolution
Great better life (before 4.4.2)
What to add:
Wireless charging
4.8" to 5" screen but similar form factor.
Bigger battery
Better camera
Better picture/video gallery
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AKA Droid Maxx
Camera of course--13 mpix at least, but more importantly, some additional settings options, such as shutter speed. Better color balance too.
Go to 32 gB standard, with possible microSD support. Water/dust proofing also a plus; it's a functional feature that doesn't necessarily give in to the spec wars that the X eschewed in the first place.
Screen size increase? Meh. Right now I can work the phone with one hand/thumb. If it gets bigger, then not so much. If they can do something with bezel size and screen real estate with the current body size, then fine.
Screen resolution? If your eyes can't tell the difference, much greater resolution only draws more battery power. As does going quadcore--remember, Moto's own research supposedly showed that even their quadcore competitors' phones didn't use more than two cores at any time.
If they keep to close the current size, then battery capacity isn't likely to grow much, so retaining efficiency is paramount.
Nor do I care about front facing speakers, ala HTC. I don't listen to much music with phone speakers, and the quality is fine for interacting with the phone's TTV engine.
Finally, I am still a skeptic about wireless charging, if only because of the probability that it can heat the battery excessively, killing overall longevity.
Unlike wood, leather backs are not my thing--what's next, chinchilla?
I think the X+1 is not the 2014 X. Maybe it meants 4.7+1 = 5.7in phablet? maybe they have another name for the X?
If they don't change the name it may or may not just be 2014 moto x like the n7 but I doubt it.... Hopefully its not moto x+1 cause that's the stupidest name I've ever heard of
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If they don't change the name it may or may not just be 2014 moto x like the n7 but I doubt it.... Hopefully its not moto x+1 cause that's the stupidest name I've ever heard of
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The leak picture actually sayS +X1. JPNo idea why everyone's stuck to +1
I would be persuaded to upgrade if they added:
Wireless charging
Bigger capacity battery
Better camera
Upgraded specs
Even more waterproofing
I'm hoping they don't change the size or form-factor as it's perfect for me. I don't really care about a leather back as I love the woven back.
Front facing speakers would be ideal; firing your audio away from you on the back of your phone is retarded for watching video.
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Front facing speakers would be ideal; firing your audio away from you on the back of your phone is retarded for watching video.
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give me a SD card slot and I am golden.
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give me a SD card slot and I am golden.
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honestly they are becoming extinct and the desire for them wont make that change manufactures want you to buy up for memory why would they want you to buy the cheapest model and allow you to upgrade the memory outside their pockets?
all i know is if they make the phone larger, i am going to have to look for a different phone or stay with this one till it dies. i have had the One, S4, Nexus 5 and pretty much any high end device in recent years and one of the main reason i love my X is due to its size.
Apparently a Brazilian retailer leaked the specs of the X+1. What do you guys think? Personally I would liked to have seen a slightly smaller screen.
http://www.examiner.com/article/motorola-moto-x-1-specifications-outed-by-brazilian-retailer
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Apparently a Brazilian retailer leaked the specs of the X+1. What do you guys think? Personally I would liked to have seen a slightly smaller screen.
http://www.examiner.com/article/motorola-moto-x-1-specifications-outed-by-brazilian-retailer
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These leaks definitely seem to be getting louder. I too am really bummed about the screen. What will be a good upgrade path for the current Moto X users who want the same form factor in a year or two? The market definitely doesn't seem to want Moto X-sized phones... Which is a real shame.
The page said at the bottom 'confirm specs prior to launch' or some such thing. It's a placeholder page the sleezy click-bait sites are posting.
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These leaks definitely seem to be getting louder. I too am really bummed about the screen. What will be a good upgrade path for the current Moto X users who want the same form factor in a year or two? The market definitely doesn't seem to want Moto X-sized phones... Which is a real shame.
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i really hope that if this turns out to be true, one of the other companies will step in and come up with a great 4.7" device.
Yeah to me the 4.7-inch screen size is perfect. 5.2-inch is so weird....just a little too big for those that want a smaller phone, just a little too small for those that want a bigger screened phone. Otherwise the specs are pretty nice. If they can keep the price low enough though they will have a solid phone on their hands.
Oh for God's sake 5.2", really? Just have to go with the nonsense trend Moto? I hope the phone will not be bigger by more than 5-6% than the current one, but as I see it's not gonna happen!
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These leaks definitely seem to be getting louder. I too am really bummed about the screen. What will be a good upgrade path for the current Moto X users who want the same form factor in a year or two? The market definitely doesn't seem to want Moto X-sized phones... Which is a real shame.
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The market does want Moto X sized phones, but manufacturers don't. Bigger phones are cheaper to make more powerful, so the flagship phones will always be the biggest. The market wasn't given a choice, if you wanted a flagship you had to buy the biggest phone.
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I am hoping all these leaks are not of Moto X+1 but of some other phone (eg. Droid..) and Motorola is purposely allow these leaks to keep the all these parapazzi away from the ACTUAL Moto X+1. It would be so awesome
Would be amazing to see a 4.7" screen at 1080p. Would be the first of its kind I believe. I don't recall any phone offering 1080p resolution below a 5" screen phone.
Htc one (m7) my friend
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I just don't get the trend of having a 5" phone. Its not natural to hold in your hand. I'm just happy the moto x is such a great phone, I just don't feel the need to upgrade.
I'm not too concerned. They mentioned smaller bezels and there is more than enough bezel at the top of the x to keep a similar size and enlarge the screen. I'm more interested to see what else they improve and if they release it for a price that reflects it's specs or price it based on its competition with better specs again
Bring on the X+1, I recently picked up a Moto G to hold me over until the X+1 gets here. I suppose if the 5.2" is too crazy-big, I'll just stick with the G for a while longer.
+ 1000000.
I was really hoping they would stick with the screen size less than 5 in.
Guess i'll stick with my current moto x for now..
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there is more than enough bezel at the top of the x to keep a similar size and enlarge the screen.
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Not really. If you want to keep the same proportions, the screen can't be enlarged vertically without making the screen wider.
I look at my Nexus 7 2012 and then look at my Moto X.. What a difference.
The colors are so much more vivid on my X. It amazes me every time.. Makes working on my tablet "not fun" to see those drab colors, especially, when I know I have another device that has much better colors..
I am excited to see what the new screens look like. I don't think that .3 is going to make that much of a difference with most people.
I got my hands on an LG G3 (D851 TMOUS 32/3) and have used it for a solid day. Coming off of 8 months on the Moto X (AT&T 16), there are some big pros and cons on both sides. Here are some thoughts so far:
1. The LG G3 has a BIG screen! Seriously, the entire Moto X is about the size of the G3 screen. I actually giggled when I got the X back in my hand because it looked and felt so tiny. It's a similar feeling to going from the X to an iPhone.
2. The G3 is big but much more manageable than the Note 3 or Oneplus One. The shape of the G3 is similar to the X but not quite as contoured. Still, the X (and HTC M7) really set the standard for ergonomics with the curved back. One of the things that makes the Note 3 & 1+1 so hard for me to use is that they are big flat slabs. The Moto X has spoiled my hand and the G3 fit very nicely. It was still a 1 hand device for me and I enjoyed using it.
3. The Moto X has a low res screen. There's simply no way around that. Of course, I'm comparing a bleeding edge 2014 phone to a 2012-spec'd phone, but you'll never notice a pixel on your Moto X (or Nexus 5) until you pick up the G3. I actually said "Wow!" multiple times while turning the G3 on during the day.
4. LG "simplicity" vs Moto simplicity. One of the big things LG said they did with the G3 was simplify the whole UI. While it's certainly simple compared to the G2, it's not in same league as the Moto X. The simplicity of the Moto X "Vanilla" easily beats out the G3 for ease of use and lightness. The G3 lags more than the X (which isn't much but it's there) and is much more complicated as far as tweaking goes. This really played into my modding tendencies but the straight-forward approach of the X won out. That being said, the LG UI feels infinitely more modern and makes the X feel frumpy and dated. Thank goodness for Nova!
5. Features/Gimmicks. The G3 is packed with features and many of them are actually useful. The IR blaster is great and works with my dinosaur Vizio TV. It's nice to have Qi charging back. The knock feature is actually really cool, and all the customizable UI elements are great. By far the best feature of the G3 is the removable battery and micro SD support. This is seriously nice to have back, no matter what anyone says. When you fly 10,000 miles a month like I do, it's nice to be able to have movies and music with you. The replaceable battery is nice for the same reason.
6. Battery life. I'm a power user and the battery life is the same. The G3 is maybe 5% better at best.
7. Thermal throttling. Yes, it happened right away with my G3. My brightness got knocked 10% and the device became very laggy as it was installing my apps (about 30)
8. Build quality. Both of these phones are excellent. The materials on the G3 are very nice and don't leave me wanting anything more.
9. Speaker. The G3 speaker blew me away. It's even better and louder than the Moto X speaker. Points to LG for that one. The speaker was one of the major downfalls of the N5 IMO.
10. Button placement. The button placement on the G3 actually makes a lot of sense and I prefer it to the Moto X setup.
11. Camera. The camera on the G3 focuses very fast and the OIS does wonders for phone photography. That being said, it isn't that much better than the X and honestly let me down a bit.
At the end of the day, the G3 is the second best phone I've ever used. It wasn't compelling enough for me to leave the Moto X just yet, not because the G3 is flawed, but because the X is just that good. I'm astounded!
Hopefully this is helpful/interesting to someone out there. I'm happy to answer any more questions.
I was playing with the G3 today and it is an excellent phone. I would have thought that the large size would be off-putting, but that slight curvature of the back really helps with the ergonomics.
I disagree with 2 points:
LG's UI is more simplified than the previous iterations, but it's still a little too cluttered. To me, it's a step towards Touchwiz, which is definitely a step in the wrong direction, at least IMO.
The speaker quality didn't seem as good as my X. Volume was fairly equal, but the sound was not nearly as full. It still destroys the G2/N5 speaker, though.
I was really surprised that I didn't notice any 2D scrolling slowdown, though. I thought the 1440p screen would really tax the SD 801 processor in that regard, but it held up fine for me.
If the Moto X+1 weren't coming out in a couple months I'd jump ship to LG.
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4. LG "simplicity" vs Moto simplicity. One of the big things LG said they did with the G3 was simplify the whole UI. While it's certainly simple compared to the G2, it's not in same league as the Moto X. The simplicity of the Moto X "Vanilla" easily beats out the G3 for ease of use and lightness. The G3 lags more than the X (which isn't much but it's there) and is much more complicated as far as tweaking goes. This really played into my modding tendencies but the straight-forward approach of the X won out. That being said, the LG UI feels infinitely more modern and makes the X feel frumpy and dated. Thank goodness for Nova!
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I was just reading a review about the G3 and they mentioned that the phone lags. I'm still in disbelief that a 2.5Ghz quad core can lag in comparison to our 1.7 dual core. Granted I'm sure that it's the UI and the screen on the G3 more than the SOC. But much credit needs to be given to moto for optimizing the X to run smooth as butter in 2014 with 2012 specs.
Thanks for the awesome review.
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I was playing with the G3 today and it is an excellent phone. I would have thought that the large size would be off-putting, but that slight curvature of the back really helps with the ergonomics.
I disagree with 2 points:
LG's UI is more simplified than the previous iterations, but it's still a little too cluttered. To me, it's a step towards Touchwiz, which is definitely a step in the wrong direction, at least IMO.
The speaker quality didn't seem as good as my X. Volume was fairly equal, but the sound was not nearly as full. It still destroys the G2/N5 speaker, though.
I was really surprised that I didn't notice any 2D scrolling slowdown, though. I thought the 1440p screen would really tax the SD 801 processor in that regard, but it held up fine for me.
If the Moto X+1 weren't coming out in a couple months I'd jump ship to LG.
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I had actually planned on grabbing an n5 today as an upgrade for my gnex because I didn't really feel happy with the g3 reviews, but this almost changes my mind.
Was gonna get an n5 until something more solid came around
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I had actually planned on grabbing an n5 today as an upgrade for my gnex because I didn't really feel happy with the g3 reviews, but this almost changes my mind.
Was gonna get an n5 until something more solid came around
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I think the G3 trumps the N5 in basically every area. I owned an N5 for a couple months too. There's nothing better about the N5 except the updates directly from Google and the low price tag. I think the G3 will be a fairly dev friendly device once it's released.
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I think the G3 trumps the N5 in basically every area. I owned an N5 for a couple months too. There's nothing better about the N5 except the updates directly from Google and the low price tag. I think the G3 will be a fairly dev friendly device once it's released.
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I understand the g3 is better in all aspects, but I don't know if I want to all in on this phone. I was thinking of just grabbing a n5 and waiting with that until some more phones came out.
Does that make sense.
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I understand the g3 is better in all aspects, but I don't know if I want to all in on this phone. I was thinking of just grabbing a n5 and waiting with that until some more phones came out.
Does that make sense.
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Yes that totally makes sense. I still think the X is better than the N5 though.
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Yes that totally makes sense. I still think the X is better than the N5 though.
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Really? My roommate just got an x, which is how I got to this topic. I understand how optimised it is, and it seems awesome.
Are there any specific things that it does better than the n5?
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11. Camera. The camera on the G3 focuses very fast and the OIS does wonders for phone photography. That being said, it isn't that much better than the X and honestly let me down a bit.
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The camera is the only thing I would want this phone for. Glad I read this. I'll wait for the X+1 and 360.
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Really? My roommate just got an x, which is how I got to this topic. I understand how optimised it is, and it seems awesome.
Are there any specific things that it does better than the n5?
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Yes they both have their plusses and minuses but I feel the X has the edge. Here's just a few points on each:
Moto X:
+Better battery life
+Louder speakers
+Better signal
+Screen/device size (IMO)
+Touchless control
+Active display
+Trusted devices
-Little to no dev community (depends on model)
-Some models can't be rooted/unlocked
-720p is showing its age
Nexus 5:
+1080p
+Direct updates from Google (Moto X has kept up well)
+Massive dev community
-Poor battery life
-No VZW option (if that matters)
-Bad speakers (low volume & quality)
-Less hardware custom options (if that matters)
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Yes they both have their plusses and minuses but I feel the X has the edge. Here's just a few points on each:
Moto X:
+Better battery life
+Louder speakers
+Better signal
+Screen/device size (IMO)
+Touchless control
+Active display
+Trusted devices
-Little to no dev community (depends on model)
-Some models can't be rooted/unlocked
-720p is showing its age
Nexus 5:
+1080p
+Direct updates from Google (Moto X has kept up well)
+Massive dev community
-Poor battery life
-No VZW option (if that matters)
-Bad speakers (low volume & quality)
-Less hardware custom options (if that matters)
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Oh yeah the X is awesome all around, I just don't know how much the 720p will affect me, plus Android L on the n5 is very tempting.
I have two questions to OP.
First, how could you fathom G3's display? I mean I am not talking about QHD or resolution, I am talking about panel type, I mean was not it hard to see an IPS display after X's AMOLED? How about the contrast ratio? GSMA review clearly mentioned it to be pretty low. Didn't it feel dull?
And secondly, how was the call quality? On par with X? Or inferior (if yes then to what extent?)? Or superior, which is highly unlikely though.
Looks good from the front but has those stupid looking controls at the back which kind of ruins the overall appearance as I like my phones elegant and conservative.
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I have two questions to OP.
First, how could you fathom G3's display? I mean I am not talking about QHD or resolution, I am talking about panel type, I mean was not it hard to see an IPS display after X's AMOLED? How about the contrast ratio? GSMA review clearly mentioned it to be pretty low. Didn't it feel dull?
And secondly, how was the call quality? On par with X? Or inferior (if yes then to what extent?)? Or superior, which is highly unlikely though.
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Going by how rubbish the call quality was on the N5, I wouldn't be surprised if it's just as bad on the G3.
One lesson I learned from owning the LG made N5, I NEVER buy LG phones, not even consider them.
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I have two questions to OP.
First, how could you fathom G3's display? I mean I am not talking about QHD or resolution, I am talking about panel type, I mean was not it hard to see an IPS display after X's AMOLED? How about the contrast ratio? GSMA review clearly mentioned it to be pretty low. Didn't it feel dull?
And secondly, how was the call quality? On par with X? Or inferior (if yes then to what extent?)? Or superior, which is highly unlikely though.
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1. The IPS panel on the G3 is fantastic but the phone is calibrated to keep the display dim if left on auto, probably due to heat & battery. The touch sensitivity is better on the X but both are way better than the iPhone. I love both display technologies for different reasons. It's contrast vs clarity. The G3 doesn't have the contrast or intensity of the X, but the X doesn't have the color clarity or accuracy of the G3. The G3 seems easier on the eyes.
2. Call quality is great! I would say it's on par with the X although the G3 doesn't have the signal strength of the X.
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Looks good from the front but has those stupid looking controls at the back which kind of ruins the overall appearance as I like my phones elegant and conservative.
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Going by how rubbish the call quality was on the N5, I wouldn't be surprised if it's just as bad on the G3.
One lesson I learned from owning the LG made N5, I NEVER buy LG phones, not even consider them.
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Lol, thanks. Kinda same here with me, when I first called my home from my friend's N5 it was like WTF! I asked him to increase the volume as even at highest it was sounding like crap. Then when the call connected the quality was pretty below average too. I think LG needs to do a much better job.
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1. The IPS panel on the G3 is fantastic but the phone is calibrated to keep the display dim if left on auto, probably due to heat & battery. The touch sensitivity is better on the X but both are way better than the iPhone. I love both display technologies for different reasons. It's contrast vs clarity. The G3 doesn't have the contrast or intensity of the X, but the X doesn't have the color clarity or accuracy of the G3. The G3 seems easier on the eyes.
2. Call quality is great! I would say it's on par with the X although the G3 doesn't have the signal strength of the X.
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Thanks. Well seems like you definitely missed the contrast of X but at the same time you liked the clarity of the G3, which is kinda surprising (or not!), cause I am still not sure how human eye can see the difference for anything above 350 PPI! I mean I have moved from an S4 to X, a 1080p to 720p, and to be honest I don't see much difference, if any at all. And I am kinda obsessed with displays as well, I don't like the X's display because of it's infamous cross hatch pattern (or whatever it is called, the Pentile problem) but I guess I will live with it. I have thought about moving from OLED to normal / standard IPS based panels a lot of time, then I had the M7 after selling the S4 for about two weeks and the display was horrible, the dullest display I have ever seen. With AMOLED you can have decent amount of saturation and colour accuracy with a different profile, I am exampling S5 here, not anything else, I have seen my colleague's G900F and with Cinema preset it's really decent, I mean for people who prefers accurate colours and less saturation, but at the same time I can switch back to normal, over vivid mode if I want to. Personal preference I suppose. But this AMOLED fantasy of mine have kept me from using a lot of good phones, you know M8, Z2 etc., yeah they all are monstrous in size that's another reason, still.
Oh and thanks for clearing the call quality factor, seems like LG has learnt a lesson from Nexus 5.
Moto X uses an RGB pattern... Not anything pentile btw. Though you do roll the dice getting a screen that doesn't have some color shift halfway down the screen or whatever.
I actually sold my Nexus 5 after I got the moto x because it just sat in a box. This is the only device I've used that wasn't a Nexus since the Nexus S came out, and I have used other flagships.
Nothing really quite beats the ergonomics, size, quality (speakers, touch, antennas, etc) and subtle software features of the Moto X. In my mind it's the best android phone ever built. If they would have shoehorned a 1080p Amoled at 4.7in and little bigger battery, and wireless charging at the time it would probably be the greatest phone ever made period.
With my Nexus 5 I luckily never had the sound problem you guys describe, but perhaps that was because I have T-Mobile and HD voice. My friends on ATT hated the call quality over the speaker on their N5. To me the phone was just too big (and I'm 6'3), not nearly as ergonomic, and was just basic compared to the X. I prefer the screen of the nexus, and I actually got the same or better battery life.
I just can't go without the sensors in the X and the touch less controls and active notifications. The X+1 should have no problem doing better on that front because their sensors plus the newer snapdragons should be great on battery. This is why I'm personally going to wait for the moto x successor even though it's no doubt fallen into the bigger-screen-is-better bull crap.
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3. The Moto X has a low res screen. There's simply no way around that. Of course, I'm comparing a bleeding edge 2014 phone to a 2012-spec'd phone, but you'll never notice a pixel on your Moto X (or Nexus 5) until you pick up the G3. I actually said "Wow!" multiple times while turning the G3 on during the day.
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I contest this statement. "Low-Res" is a huge exaggeration because the order of magnitude from 720x1280 to 1440x2560 is 4x the difference in pixel density overall when we're still manufacturing phones that are 480x800 at 4.5 inches and 10 inch tablets that are 768x1366. Having the G3 doesn't automatically make the Moto X 'low-res' but that it makes the G3 'hi-res' by comparison to the rest of the market.
I just tried a HTC One M8 for two days and returned it to go back to my MotoX.
I was looking for removable storage, and a bit larger and brighter screen. The HTC M* has all that, but it has so much crud from HTC and AT&T that I can't see how anyone uses it stock.
I had an LG Optimus G prior to my Moto X. They both have 4.7 inch screen, but the LG had capacitive buttons. The extra screen space that the on screen buttons take up is noticeable in everyday use.
I am looking forward to the Moto X+1, hopefully it will answer all of my concerns that I have with the MotoX. But after using the MotoX it will be hard to give up active notifications, touchless control and moto assist.
There is also a great gulf between the Dev Edition and any phone that is branded for a carrier. The stuff that the manufacturers and carriers shove down your throat is beyond annoying.
Nice review and thanks! I thought I read somewhere that US-spec G3's didn't include Qi? Am I going nuts [don't answer this one!]?
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Nice review and thanks! I thought I read somewhere that US-spec G3's didn't include Qi? Am I going nuts [don't answer this one!]?
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I'm not sure what the official phone will have but this one definitely worked on my Qi pad. I believe it's all in the back cover anyways so you could easily swap if needed.