Why are people complaining?
Nothing is bad with the screen! I can see everything just fine!
Grab it and put it beside an ipad
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This is an HD screen so good in appearance, but if you compare screens with say the tf700 or even my 1080p phone screen you begin to understand just how much difference there really is. 400 ppi or higher makes everything sharp and clear. Letters pop out, and images are clear and vibrant. Even the simple act of forum reading is enhanced at 1080p 400+ ppi. There is no real comparison, true high def is simply better. While this screen is adequate it doesnt sing, 400 ppi is a Symphony.
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Because Internet.
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Grab it and put it beside an ipad
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True. But it really isn't bad per se. The only area where it's really noticable is text but to make text more readable rather than make it bigger I turn up the brightness. In the days of 440+PPI displays 147PPI isn't anything to write home about. But like OP said, that doesn't make it "bad." It's certainly livable.
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True. But it really isn't bad per se. The only area where it's really noticable is text but to make text more readable rather than make it bigger I turn up the brightness. In the days of 440+PPI displays 147PPI isn't anything to write home about. But like OP said, that doesn't make it "bad." It's certainly livable.
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Wacom displays cost lots more than standard displays. Higher Res equal much more cash.
What tablet had 400+ ppi when this was launched?
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What tablet had 400+ ppi when this was launched?
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Tf700
I have no problems with it too but that may be coz I don't have a comparison to make. I read somewhere the resolution is limited due to wacom. But I doubt that's the main reason, since even the recent galaxy tab 3 kept the low resolution. I can't help but fear the next note 10.1 will be the same. But how about using the Sony xperia ultra screen technology on this? Works with any pen input
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. But how about using the Sony xperia ultra screen technology on this? Works with any pen input
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Because it costs money to buy off Sony... Why pay a competitor when you have good tech yourself....
We have become a bit spoilded with screen resolution anf ppi, every year the ppi gets denser and denser , personally at 340+ ppi I can't see the pixels with my naked eyes why one would need a ppi of 400 + is more for the company to get people to buy the latest product from them
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Agreed. And the worse is consumers suffer due to the compromise on battery life.
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Agreed. And the worse is consumers suffer due to the compromise on battery life.
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Exactly, when I first read about the screen I realized that if I'm going to be taking notes on this thing all day and then some (which as a college engineering student I DO), that if the screen was something like Super AMOLED or Retina Display, the tablet's battery wouldn't last me through the day.
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We have become a bit spoilded with screen resolution anf ppi, every year the ppi gets denser and denser , personally at 340+ ppi I can't see the pixels with my naked eyes why one would need a ppi of 400 + is more for the company to get people to buy the latest product from them
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1 getting the most for my money is important. Thats not being spoiled that is using your brain
2 this tablet is no where near 340 ppi. in fact it is 149 ppi. samsung is way behind in screen tech
3 everyone is not the same so some will be on the high end of normal and see 440 ppi
4 battery life will not suffer if you use the latest processor's from this year, in fact it will increase
5 watching movies and or videos in 1080p 400+ ppi is a superior experience
6 at our current ppi text is sometimes crappy and always dull. At 400 it is not so hard on my old eyes to read.
As ive said before I like this tablet a lot, and for the most part i even like touch wiz. if however samsung doesnt get with the times this year with the plethora of 1080 screens and 3gb ram, 2+Ghz machines coming out Q4 this year and Q1 next year I will gladly give my money away to another. Samsung has in the past been on the cutting edge and I think they most likely will be this year as well, so I expect we will see a 1080p unit that I will adore. This was the best overall machine when i bought it imho because when you factor the power of the cpu, battery life and smooth running rom plus stylus the only detractor was the screen. That said its a new year and I expect more from the next generation or I will simply reserve my money for a unit that tops my current note 10.1. That could be asus or sony, or anyone. Im not a fanboy, i put my money where i get the best value on the highest end of tech.
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1 getting the most for my money is important. Thats not being spoiled that is using your brain
2 this tablet is no where near 340 ppi. in fact it is 149 ppi. samsung is way behind in screen tech
3 everyone is not the same so some will be on the high end of normal and see 440 ppi
4 battery life will not suffer if you use the latest processor's from this year, in fact it will increase
5 watching movies and or videos in 1080p 400+ ppi is a superior experience
6 at our current ppi text is sometimes crappy and always dull. At 400 it is not so hard on my old eyes to read.
As ive said before I like this tablet a lot, and for the most part i even like touch wiz. if however samsung doesnt get with the times this year with the plethora of 1080 screens and 3gb ram, 2+Ghz machines coming out Q4 this year and Q1 next year I will gladly give my money away to another. Samsung has in the past been on the cutting edge and I think they most likely will be this year as well, so I expect we will see a 1080p unit that I will adore. This was the best overall machine when i bought it imho because when you factor the power of the cpu, battery life and smooth running rom plus stylus the only detractor was the screen. That said its a new year and I expect more from the next generation or I will simply reserve my money for a unit that tops my current note 10.1. That could be asus or sony, or anyone. Im not a fanboy, i put my money where i get the best value on the highest end of tech.
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Your right getting the most bang for our your buck is important, that being said the note was on par with most of the Android tablets out there. I don't know much about how much more power it would use but i have heard that the nexus 10 that share a lot of the same hardware as the note has problems with stutter with some of the games that the note has no problem with. Text is a bit hard to read at times but there are ways to adjust it from within the browser or reader app you are using. Would I like a higher ppi, yes am I gonna complain about nope love the note and the s pen makes up for up for all of any shortcomings
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I totally agree with the OP. Screen isn't bad at all just that the text is a little hard at times, but nothing zooming in won't fix. I actually sold me Nexus 10 and got this device :laugh:. I have no regrets what so ever. I find myself using this tablet more than I did with the Nexus 10 because of its functionality. All the Nexus 10 got was a nice screen and that's it plus it had something called "Surface flinger" and memory leaks which makes the tablet extremely slow. The Note 10.1 works flawlessly.
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OK 1 billion threads I know but its more so a thread of my joy.
See the big boys Samsung/Apple/HTC should be working along the lines of when they bring out their top end phone, its the best one....maybe for a few short months, but that’s the way tech works, wait for one company to bring something out then you better it.
My joy has came from the fact that I was waiting for Apple to trump Samsung, its a newer phone/hype so it will be better, Apples chance to go one up on Samsung, they have the court win (fix ) and a new phone right behind that, times are good, what could go wrong..........oh dear, its not quite the phone we all thought it might be.
Not a Apple fan (was many years ago) but had they brought out a really top end/new ideas phone then it would have been bad news for Samsung (state side) as it is Samsung now have the perfect chance to really push this, they have in a way got off lightly.
It will be very easy for Samsung to make a phone that easily outstrips the ip5, I just hope they take a little bit extra from that tech they are sitting on and really leave other companies behind, but that comes with a high cost.
P.S
Just love how Apple is lost for ideas.
I know the war on trying to bring other firms down to their speed is well under way but its shocking when they are so open about lack of innovation on their side.
There was a write up about the iphone 5 looking like a longer 4s, and the question was put to Apple on why the look of the phone has hardy changed since iphone4, the reply was that they felt it was a great design and that people liked it, and that they don’t see the main shape changing for sometime yet.
Why not simply say
“we don’t have any idea what we could do and we are not willy to take any chances, customers are happy with it so why bother trying any new ideas, but if the sales are not what we wanted then we will make a slight change to the shape........this is Apple after all, we are all about slight changes here”
So comment/delete yet another thread either way I am happy Apple dropped the ball with this one.
Apple has just smashed preorder records over all their other phones. Samsung won't outsell the iPhone, and in terms of specs their phones have always been better anyway.
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Apple has just smashed preorder records over all their other phones. Samsung won't outsell the iPhone, and in terms of specs their phones have always been better anyway.
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The iPhone 5 has better specs? ......
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Apple has just smashed preorder records over all their other phones. Samsung won't outsell the iPhone, and in terms of specs their phones have always been better anyway.
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How do you know this, I don't doubt you but would like to see the figures.
Cm10 latest with s3 = godly.
Best is nit a figure. Best for what?
Whats best some one is not for another. Specs dont mean best
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I think it's 4 million preorders for the iPhone 5.
Also iSheep don't buy a phone because it's the best (like us) they buy a phone because it's an iPhone no other reason. Apple could make a new Nokia 3310 and people would still buy it thinking it's the best because they blindly follow Apple.
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Already done. The SGS3 is superior to the iphone5.
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Its going down the path of mine is better than yours.....but I notice you start with preorders, so sales means its better? if so explain the Twilight movies, how did they make the money?????
Had you started off by listing the changes Apple made then I would be more willing to listen to a I.fan.
Oh and just so it does not need pointed out again
S1 1ghz 5mp camera 720p recording 4inch screen.512 ram
S2 1.2ghz dual core 8mp camera 1080p recording 4.3 inch screen.1gig ram.
S3 1.4ghz quad core 8pm camera 1080p recording 4.8 inch screen.1 gig ram.
Iphone 620mhz no camera 3.5 inch screen..128 ram.
Iphone 3g 620mhz.2mp camera vga recording.3.5 inch screen.128 ram.
Iphone 3gs 833mhz.3mp camera vga recording 3.5 inch screen.256 ram
Iphone 4 1ghz.5mp camera..720p recording 3.5 inch screen.512 ram.
Iphone 4s 1ghz.dual core.8mp camera 1080p recording 3.5 inch screen.512 ram.
Iphone 5 1.2ghz dual core.8mp camera 1080p recording 4 inch screen. 1gb ram.
It took them 6 phones to make these changes, they went form a 620mhz cpu to 1.2ghz dual core.
From no camera to 8mp 1080p recording.
From 128ram to 1gb ram.
And from a 3.5 inch screen to a..................well 4inch screen.
I know its all been said but to me this is not a big leap over 6 years, Samsung has done more over 3 years.
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Agree!! Enjoying every bit of it now. I wish i could donate to CM Team but i don't have PayPal account.
Anyway, back to topic. I heard Samsung made sure S3 is iPhone 5 proof. Meaning they already knew how it would look like and made s3 superior.
W/o Steve Jobs, i don't think there's still life in Apple.
Steve jobs said before he died that he wanted to destroy android, Well i think by him dying he destroyed Apple.
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Its going down the path of mine is better than yours.....but I notice you start with preorders, so sales means its better? if so explain the Twilight movies, how did they make the money?????
Had you started off by listing the changes Apple made then I would be more willing to listen to a I.fan.
Oh and just so it does not need pointed out again
S1 1ghz 5mp camera 720p recording 4inch screen.512 ram
S2 1.2ghz dual core 8mp camera 1080p recording 4.3 inch screen.1gig ram.
S3 1.4ghz quad core 8pm camera 1080p recording 4.8 inch screen.1 gig ram.
Iphone 620mhz no camera 3.5 inch screen..128 ram.
Iphone 3g 620mhz.2mp camera vga recording.3.5 inch screen.128 ram.
Iphone 3gs 833mhz.3mp camera vga recording 3.5 inch screen.256 ram
Iphone 4 1ghz.5mp camera..720p recording 3.5 inch screen.512 ram.
Iphone 4s 1ghz.dual core.8mp camera 1080p recording 3.5 inch screen.512 ram.
Iphone 5 1.2ghz dual core.8mp camera 1080p recording 4 inch screen. 1gb ram.
It took them 6 phones to make these changes, they went form a 620mhz cpu to 1.2ghz dual core.
From no camera to 8mp 1080p recording.
From 128ram to 1gb ram.
And from a 3.5 inch screen to a..................well 4inch screen.
I know its all been said but to me this is not a big leap over 6 years, Samsung has done more over 3 years.
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The i5 has 1GHZ dual core...
Anyway,i do agree to that.
Most of apples buyers are dumb...
A youtube video where they showed the people the 4s instead of the 5 and most of them said it's definently better even though it was THE SAME FRICKING PHONE??
Jesus...i wonder who the hell did we get there sometimes...
Well I know I have a good phone when I can do everything I need w/o much tinkerin...I dont like CM and I hardly use modded stuff so I am not spoiled by the custom rom godness and still any stock android phone 2.3 and up have better usability than any iThing up to date. Cant debate usability.
Android top phones come in better specs, and spec is something that can be measured because its a fact that hardware X is faster than Y, cant debate on that when the difference is so great between top android phones and iphone.
The screen size, for me 4.5 is better than 4.8, that we can debate as it is personal preference. Everything else is no brainer for me, real multitask, widgets, the fact that I can chose my default apps, change my ringtone at will, stuff all my mp3 in a sdcard and be happy all day, and the look in my iphone friends faces when I click on a street addres inside gmail and android ask me if I want directions or maps...
Anyone who try to argue that iphone is a better smart phone is wrong, iphone is a better...ipod that make calls...for the hardware it sports and the target market I would say the iphone is still overkill.
Android phones will always have better specs, that's not going to change. Apple sells features not specs and that I mean by that is that Apple will advertise a certain feature, siri, and people will see that and flock, or something like icloud, and people will buy. 5 years ago if you would of told me that the wii would be one of the best selling systems of all time, I would of laughed, the wii is just gamecube 2,with a new controller, but Nintendo focused on features and not specs and look what happened
I think Samsung is getting the idea, advertise what the phone can do, and why you need it, then people will buy. It's easy to say that the iphone is gonna outsell the sg3 because if you want an iphone you get an iphone, there no choice, if you want a android, you literally have 500 choices.
Plus Samsung makes alot of the parts for the iphone so they winning regardless
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That could just mean they doing a Buzz Lightyear and deliberately creating stock shortages so all the iSheep think it's more popular than it actually is.
The ip5 will sell well, but if its looking to good then Samsung will start teasing the SGS4 and its "maybe specs" I mean there is already talk of its first showing next year been March.
This is Samsungs chance to distance their product, better specs/features/look, after Apples so so ip5 Samsung really need to make the most of it and show off, it does come at a cost but long term it will be a winner.
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Well I do think that Samsung and rest of the Android pack has a lot of catching up with apple's processor. Especially in terms of battery consumption. They could fit quite small sized battery and still have excellent battery life. I don't like Apple as an company and because of that will always boycott them but must give credit for the processor.
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Well I do think that Samsung and rest of the Android pack has a lot of catching up with apple's processor. Especially in terms of battery consumption. They could fit quite small sized battery and still have excellent battery life. I don't like Apple as an company and because of that will always boycott them but must give credit for the processor.
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Features are what matters to the average person not pointless benchmark results and a little bit of a speedup, and iPhone chronically lacks features compared to Android.
Apple does not have to try hard for making an 'innovative' phone. Just putting a new name tag would turn on the iSheeps and sell like hot cakes. So be it.
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Lower benchmark score than the Galaxy S3 and battery drops from 97% to 93% in 5 minutes of use.
Not impressed Sony.
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Check out the video.
Lower benchmark score than the Galaxy S3 and battery drops from 97% to 93% in 5 minutes of use.
Not impressed Sony.
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Isn't that a test unit though? Plus benchmarks don't really mean that much, it's the actual user experience which is important I think
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Isn't that a test unit though?
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What would the difference be?
The phone is coming out next month. Production has started already.
I don't blame the hardware though. The S4 Pro is powerful.
Most likely Sony screwed up the software.....
Also battery needed to be bigger.
Why in the love of god didn't Sony follow Samsung and use a bigger battery like the Note 2? :crying:
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What would the difference be?
The phone is coming out next month. Production has started already.
I don't blame the hardware though. The S4 Pro is powerful.
Most likely Sony screwed up the software.....
Also battery needed to be bigger.
Why in the love of god didn't Sony follow Samsung and use a bigger battery like the Note 2? :crying:
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I see what you mean, the actual production devices could ship with different software I don't know? I agree about the battery though we'll just have to wait for a full review I guess
Engadget got the ZL at 13,589
It's an S4 Pro with quad-core krait. Just like the Droid DNA and Nexus 4. Stop worrying about benchmarks, especially when it hasn't even been released. It will perform like every other S4 Pro phone, give or take a small margin.
The battery complaint is even more ridiculous. So many phones get updates on launch day fixing battery issues and they keep tweaking it with each update for months after release.
The biggest disappointment is the display. It looks exactly like a bigger version of the Xperia S/Ion/T with all the problems. Washed out look with poor viewing angles and contrast. Sony likes to turn up the brightness to mask the poor contrast. It's 2013. HTC doesn't even make displays and their SuperLCD IPS display is far and ahead the best. IPS displays on LG are also good as well as the one on the Lumia 920. Sony displays continue to disappoint.
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It's an S4 Pro with quad-core krait. Just like the Droid DNA and Nexus 4. Stop worrying about benchmarks, especially when it hasn't even been released. It will perform like every other S4 Pro phone, give or take a small margin.
The battery complaint is even more ridiculous. So many phones get updates on launch day fixing battery issues and they keep tweaking it with each update for months after release.
The biggest disappointment is the display. It looks exactly like a bigger version of the Xperia S/Ion/T with all the problems. Washed out look with poor viewing angles and contrast. Sony likes to turn up the brightness to mask the poor contrast. It's 2013. HTC doesn't even make displays and their SuperLCD IPS display is far and ahead the best. IPS displays on LG are also good as well as the one on the Lumia 920. Sony displays continue to disappoint.
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The Ion has a pretty good display, dunno what you're talking about, many people agree with me. Probably one of the best out there.
I got the S which seems to have a pretty nice one as well, maybe almost the same as the Ion. The only washed out display that Sony produced this year on a high-end device is the one on the T. Over-saturated colors don't necessarily mean better displays.
The ION has the best display. Take a look at the thread in the Xperia T forums that compares the ION, T, and S in terms of display.
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The Ion has a pretty good display, dunno what you're talking about, many people agree with me. Probably one of the best out there.
I got the S which seems to have a pretty nice one as well, maybe almost the same as the Ion. The only washed out display that Sony produced this year on a high-end device is the one on the T. Over-saturated colors don't necessarily mean better displays.
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I never said anything about oversaturation being better. You are making assumptions that I prefer the blown out colors of AMOLED or the extra warmth of the SuperLCD. I mentioned the LG display looks better than the Sony one, and it is even LESS saturated than the Sony display. The point is Sony does not have a single IPS display on their phones. It is 100% agreed upon that IPS is the pinnacle of LCD technology and has been for years. Professional monitors from NEC, Dell, and HP use IPS panels. The colors and contrast do not shift when viewing off axis, and that is important for an even image, even when looking dead on. LG and HTC have been putting IPS displays on their phones for years now. Sony has no excuse. If you live in a bubble of Sony phones and never look at any other smartphone, I'm sure the display looks great. But there are plenty of reviews stating the obvious. The poor viewing angles are becoming increasingly unacceptable in a premium smartphone. The flaws are even more apparent on a small mobile display that you move around and use at different angles. It's not some nice monitor you prop in front of your desk and sit perfectly in front of.
Still way prettier and with far better UI than TouchWiz.
scores slower because of the Full HD screen
Final results are close to 20.000 in AnTuTu...
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its a prototype so definitely the software isnt optimized yet, wait for the final release and then start whining.
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That's probably the issue. This thing rendering everything in fullHD, the S3 does 720p only, so of course it will be "faster" in benchmarks.
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That's probably the issue. This thing rendering everything in fullHD, the S3 does 720p only, so of course it will be "faster" in benchmarks.
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I've seen droid DNA got 19k in antutu with that resolution..
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Yeah, well the Z can score higher than that -- and with XDA here, it's bound to go higher than 22.000
I don't know what Sony's game is, but why the onscreen buttons? That only takes away from the display! For some reason, only the GNex looks good with those, maybe because it doesn't have any extra buttons?
Anyways, I still think the best buttons were on the HTC Desire. You couldn't miss those.
About what I expected and not low at all for a stock device. You have to keep in mind most of the top scores on Antutu are with custom kernels and roms. As for battery I am not worried about it as it has not really been a issue with the newer Sony stuff.
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Yeah, well the Z can score higher than that -- and with XDA here, it's bound to go higher than 22.000
I don't know what Sony's game is, but why the onscreen buttons? That only takes away from the display! For some reason, only the GNex looks good with those, maybe because it doesn't have any extra buttons?
Anyways, I still think the best buttons were on the HTC Desire. You couldn't miss those.
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I think it's better. When not needed, they will hide themselves and show the full screen.
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I think it's better. When not needed, they will hide themselves and show the full screen.
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Agreed. And I'll be hiding the on screen buttons completely, and using gestures instead, meaning that I get the complete 5" !!
Very glad Sony did this, was waiting for someone to stop making redundant buttons.
Now if only they actually gave it a removable battery, then I'd be sold 100% (mostly talking about the ZL, I can understand the Z)
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Lower benchmark score than the Galaxy S3 and battery drops from 97% to 93% in 5 minutes of use.
Not impressed Sony.
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Ummm I should point out the S3 gets around the 9000 range in Antutu and the Nexus 4 which runs the same processor as the Z gets around 16,000 which about in line with that benchmark so... wtf are you talking about. Also *GASP* a phone lose battery while doing intensive benchmarks I am soooo shocked. Obvious troll post.
Keeping it simple:
2 phones identical specs except for screen/overall size.
Which would you prefer 4.7" or 5"?
Definitely prefer 4.7 which is one of my reasons for choosing this over what the samsung galaxy 4 is rumoured to be.
4.7 just fits better in my hand.
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4.5 16:10 720p
Perfect for a phone.
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This should be posted in General really as it isn't specific to this phone.
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thank you for starting such a great thread.
im sure that htc will look at this forum and if more people vote for 5" than 4.7", they will recall all the HTC Ones and replace them with a 5" version.
5 is too big, I think.
From my Evo LTE, yup.
5" is the perfect size IMO. The 5.5" N2 that I have is just too big, it's very difficult to try and use one handed. I used the DNA for a week and it was the best combination of screen size and usability.
> 4.3 < 5.0
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5 is a too big device for my trousers....
After playing with the one x extensively and with the DNA i would say... I do Like a 5 inch Screen but not better... and I but i would also PREFER having the Stereo Speaker more than having a 5 inch screen so easy choice 4.7 inch all the way
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5 is a too big device for my trousers....
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Don't wear skinny jeans then!
Why doesn't the poll offer an option for screen sizes above 5"? I'm thinking somewhere around 6.5" would be good; maybe a little more.
My personal preference it's that 5" is just too big, and opens the door to too many old jokes. "Is that a phone in your pocket......?"
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Why doesn't the poll offer an option for screen sizes above 5"? I'm thinking somewhere around 6.5" would be good; maybe a little more.
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Let's go higher and have it up to 8 inch. The Galaxy Note 8.0 can be used as a phone.
i like the scores so far
at 5" we crossing the phablet threshold and loosing the last bit of single hand operation
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i like the scores so far
at 5" we crossing the phablet threshold and loosing the last bit of single hand operation
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It depends how big your hands are. For me, on a 4.8 inch SGS3 I can easily reach all 4 corners and beyond with one hand. I'm quite confident that I'll be able to use a 5 inch phone with one hand too.
But for those with smaller hands I can see why you would prefer a smaller screen.
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Let's go higher and have it up to 8 inch. The Galaxy Note 8.0 can be used as a phone.
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Yeah, it doesn't have a full HD display, though. No tablet in the 7-8" range that I'm aware of has - a source of considerable frustration for me, I can assure you.
Its better for the sharpness to have 4,7 ... i mean it is 1,5 times as sharp as an iphone thats sick!
5'' would drop the ppi!
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Its better for the sharpness to have 4,7 ... i mean it is 1,5 times as sharp as an iphone thats sick!
5'' would drop the ppi!
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Some would argue that we are in an area of diminishing returns when it comes to ppi increase.
For instance would we really notice the ppi increase from the One X to the One in day to day use?
Our eyes have a threshold and in the last year or so we have reached it. 1080p on a 4.7 inch screen really is over kill, BUT it was also necessary as Joe Public thinks bigger is better. Most people would take a 1080 flagship over a 720 so it wasn't an option for HTC.
Hello guys.
Since the second Nexus came out the first one has been degraded too much, IMHO.
On the other hand now you can find it a very attractive price :angel:
So my question is..
Is it really THAT slow compared to the new one?
Is 1200x800 really THAT bad resolution?
I don't think so.
What do you guys think?
It's all marketing.
If you pay attention, you'll notice that 23" up to 27" LCD displays use 1080p resolution, the same as 5" phones, and 22" displays are even less. New 15" laptops use 1366*768, which is less then 5" phones. Honestly speaking, I'd rather see a 4K screen for 250€ then a phone with such resolution. And your eyes can't really distinguish between 720p or 4K on the phone, unless you look at the screen from 1cm or with a magnifier (which they actually do in tests).
Okay you can tell the difference I suppose, but even 1280*800 is great resolution for 7", anything more, and you need a more powerful chip to run the graphics, with more power comes more power consumption and unless you fit in a bigger battery, you lose battery life. I'd rather see they stop focusing on bringing ridiculous resolutions on small screens and focus on battery life. I'd sacrifice some resolution and performance for 1 week battery life (1 month standby)
I think you're right.
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Seriously, I can't believe what marketing did to this device.
First of all, my Nexus 7 2012 is as fast as ever. Trust me, when it comes to loading apps, surfing the internet, whatever, you can barely tell the difference between N7 2012 or say Galaxy S4 (it's the only latest gen device I have in my vicinity, but it doesn't differ from N7 2013). The screen is OK. I don't know why people think that as soon as a new device with a screen which has over 300ppi comes out, that the generation before suddenly gets a Minecraft screen. I like it, there is really no problems with it, if you really pay attention you can see the pixels but barely, the screen is crisp. I'm not sure if you remember, but when Nexus 7 2012 came out, Google praised its screen for being "very crisp and high res, perfect for reading" in their ads, now they are doing the same with 2013, making an impression that 2012 is s**t. Same goes with speed.
I really feel no need to upgrade to 2013, this thing is just as capable. The only thing is Google's idiotic treatment towards us - making every non-Nexus 5 user wait a few more weeks for the update.
For the first time since its release I got to play with the second edition N7 and I must admit to being disappointed by my first impressions. I would like to think that the differences which could be important to me might be there, if I actually owned one, but I couldn't be bothered to keep using it. Overall it has both pleased me that my own 16GB first edition N7 is as good for my use as the second and then also I'm kinda disappointed as there are so few reasons for me to "upgrade".
I couldn't tell the difference in the screen resolution, but then again maybe if I have to look too closely it probably means that there isn't much.
My wife has just bought a Galaxy Note 10.1 tablet, being sold new relatively cheap, and the quad core CPU with 2GB RAM and a very beautiful screen is indeed a pleasure to use. As noted the screen is crisp, vivid and very bright, and I would have sooner have bought one of those over that of the newer N7, if I felt the need to change.
just to mention that my father in law recently bought a Nexus 10 and to be frank I prefer the bright, crisp and vivid Samsung Note that my wife has over his. Understanding that the Note "only" runs at 1280x800 says something about the quality of the screen on the Samsung.
I think that the only real thing you can feel in terms if difference is the RAM amount.
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Hey there chaps. I've done a little review after using the phone for almost a full year now and wanted to share it. Love the phone, it's been a breath of fresh air owning it this year. Let's hope the M8 carries on the awesomeness!
HTC One Review
Good review...you basically spoke for me when describing the phone and touched on the key selling points of the phone. Now to see what the new version has in store when in person.
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Hey thanks. Yeh it's been a brilliant phone. I really hope the new one is good but atm it looks like HTC have done a bit of a Samsung and just done a (questionably) mildly better new device. Sad about the 5" screen though. Lower resolution then the M7 is the rumours are true.
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Hey thanks. Yeh it's been a brilliant phone. I really hope the new one is good but atm it looks like HTC have done a bit of a Samsung and just done a (questionably) mildly better new device. Sad about the 5" screen though. Lower resolution then the M7 is the rumours are true.
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How could it be a lower resolution?
Still 1080p.... A lower ppi however, though that won't be noticeable
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How could it be a lower resolution?
Still 1080p.... A lower ppi however, though that won't be noticeable
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Yea I just caught that too, must have meant ppi...no problem, I think we are all smart enough to know...maybe a slight edit due for the review for the less knowledgeable readers?
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1080p on a 5" screen = lower ppi which is lower level of resolution IMO. Less is less. And though it is all 'apparently' above what the human eye can tell the difference between, I don't know why HTC have chosen what in my eyes is a downgrade with the new device. Unless it ends up being just rumours after all.
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Dont think the new one will do that well compared to other devices it's going to have to offer something really unique and iam not really felling it with pictures and rumours. But iam sure it will be a great device and a good upgrade but not sure about it being a huge hit hope iam wrong though.
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1080p on a 5" screen = lower ppi which is lower level of resolution IMO. Less is less. And though it is all 'apparently' above what the human eye can tell the difference between, I don't know why HTC have chosen what in my eyes is a downgrade with the new device. Unless it ends up being just rumours after all.
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By writing this, it is apparent you don't know what resolution is.
Ppi and resolution are not the same thing...
It is the same resolution, not lower level of resolution.
Electrical engineer here btw
Also it is such a minute difference that it will not be noticeable.
Higher at 5 inches (4K for example) is just overkill
Ok guys ok, let's not let this thread become a pissing contest please, it started out as a positive thread and quickly escalated to "who knows more", which isn't productive and to be honest kinda immature for no real reason...
The resolutions are the same, screen is slightly bigger in New one which will lower the ppi a tiny bit which will probably be undetectable to the naked eye in the real world...only difference if there is any, will be the vividness of the colors since the pixels will be ever so slightly further apart...
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This has been the best phone I have had. Better than the S3 plastic poop I had before!
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If anything lower ppi better battery
Those who had HoX like I did know how superb screen it had and it was only 318ppi +720p , I barely saw the difference on m7 with FHD +468PPI , why worry anyway ...amoled screens are pentile and lower resolution then ours and still are crisp almost as ours. Like I said no worries here unless you belive more is always better
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Shan89 said:
If anything lower ppi better battery
Those who had HoX like I did know how superb screen it had and it was only 318ppi +720p , I barely saw the difference on m7 with FHD +468PPI , why worry anyway ...amoled screens are pentile and lower resolution then ours and still are crisp almost as ours. Like I said no worries here unless you belive more is always better
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Exactly....
I think 1080p is the upper limit on a phone. The bump to 2k or 4K is just going to cause unnecessary battery drain and is more of a "whose e peen is bigger" thing than a useful addition.
More battery drain, more taxing on the processor...
I could see on a tablet, but not on a phone 6 inches or smaller.
I still love my One. Nothing has yet to match it in terms of build quality and design. It's no wonder it won the Smartphone of the year award at MWC:
http://www.globalmobileawards.com/winners-2014/#cat_id22
and I agree with your all points especially the point you made regarding the Highlights Themes being removed :crying:. I have even contemplated reverting back to Sense 5.0 to get them back.
A year on, this phone is still blazing. Although...I made a switch to GPE (sinless) which honestly flies faster and has better battery. I don't really miss Zoe or any of the sense apps. The hardware is enough for me to love HTC.
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A year on, this phone is still blazing. Although...I made a switch to GPE (sinless) which honestly flies faster and has better battery. I don't really miss Zoe or any of the sense apps. The hardware is enough for me to love HTC.
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I have actually heard the opposite, that sense is much better as far as battery life. What is your typical screen on time?
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Exactly....
I think 1080p is the upper limit on a phone. The bump to 2k or 4K is just going to cause unnecessary battery drain and is more of a "whose e peen is bigger" thing than a useful addition.
More battery drain, more taxing on the processor...
I could see on a tablet, but not on a phone 6 inches or smaller.
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I agree
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I have actually heard the opposite, that sense is much better as far as battery life. What is your typical screen on time?
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Sense is better for battery then GPE
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Sense is better for battery then GPE
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World make sense too (bad pun I know), since it would be more fine tuned for the one's hardware. I get great battery life on sense but not so much in the brief period I tried gpe.
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By writing this, it is apparent you don't know what resolution is.
Ppi and resolution are not the same thing...
It is the same resolution, not lower level of resolution.
Electrical engineer here btw
Also it is such a minute difference that it will not be noticeable.
Higher at 5 inches (4K for example) is just overkill
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I wasn't intending on this becoming a pis#ing match and I did state that it was only my opinion. I know the technical description of resolution however to me it includes the clarity of an image and that is down to the PPI. Of course a 5" and a 50" screen can have the same resolution and you would chose which ever one suited your needs the best but the 5" display will always show the image better than the 50".
If you look at the defenition of resolution you'll find that is actually means "the degree of detail visible in a photographic or television image" this is what equates to something being "a high-resolution monitor". Hence I have formed my opinion based on this.
Electrical Mechanical Design Engineer here btw
And, still to me there's no need for HTC to have upped the screen size to 5". Nothing wrong with the 4.7" on the One. It is an epic phone and the high PPI was a good selling point. I know the're probably just trying to compete with the S5 etc but to me the screen size should have been left alone.
Let's not forget that even 1080P is an overkill on our little 4.7 inch screens, my tv is 46 inches big with the same resolution as my phone! This is nuts! Why don't they take it down to 720P and gain a massive battery life boost