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Why do people hate refurbished phones?

I've been lucky enough to have never needed my phone replaced and I've had over 30 or 40 phones thanks to connections at best buy.
My question is why do people hate them? Obviously your "brand new" (and i use parentheses because people think a 8 month old phone doesn't deserve a refurbished one as a replacement) has the exact same chance of not working properly. I can understand one month old but anything past that is not new anymore.
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I think part of the issue with phones is that people don't want something that someone has had pressed against their cheek or stuffed in their pocket for the past few months.
This is apart from the obvious fact that a refurb it may still be broken.
I have personally had very good luck with refurbed cameras.

DirtyShroomz said:
I've been lucky enough to have never needed my phone replaced and I've had over 30 or 40 phones thanks to connections at best buy.
My question is why do people hate them? Obviously your "brand new" (and i use parentheses because people think a 8 month old phone doesn't deserve a refurbished one as a replacement) has the exact same chance of not working properly. I can understand one month old but anything past that is not new anymore.
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Honestly, because I've never received a refurbished phone that didn't fail on me within a month.
I don't care if it's "refurbished" or "new" I just want it to work 100% and not fail on me.

I'm inclined to agree that after a certain point you aren't really 'deserving' of a brand new device. I think it's simply the fact that the device isn't 'brand new and out of box' and has been 'handled.' I guess I can sort of understand why people might have a problem with it, but if it works and isn't entirely flawed in some manner, then what is the problem? I had 2 refurbished PS3's die on me in a year. Obviously I got 'lucky.' In that regard I understand why someone would be hesitant to get one. But more often than not refurbs actually work as intended. Shocking. But the practice is a tried and relatively true one.

I think you should get a freebee.. one free new phone. Anything after that.. refurbished
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I just activated my refurbished phone. It took Sprint a month to get one for me. This one doesn't charge at all. The store said it would take at least a week to get me another one. When I asked what I should do about my phone in the meantime, the employee told me I could bring my phone into the store everyday to have them charge it. He was serious.
The icing on the cake is that they won't call when the new phone comes in. I'm supposed to call them everyday and ask if it's there. But the store doesn't ever answer their phone! After going through the phone tree twice, it just says "Sorry, all reps are busy, please make an appointment online." Somehow this is the only store in all of San Francisco that can even do replacements. I ****ing hate Sprint. [/RANT]

notown775 said:
I think you should get a freebee.. one free new phone. Anything after that.. refurbished
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I think you should have to get a refurbished phone, then if that fails you should be allowed a new one.
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DirtyShroomz said:
I've been lucky enough to have never needed my phone replaced and I've had over 30 or 40 phones thanks to connections at best buy.
My question is why do people hate them? Obviously your "brand new" (and i use parentheses because people think a 8 month old phone doesn't deserve a refurbished one as a replacement) has the exact same chance of not working properly. I can understand one month old but anything past that is not new anymore.
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From what I have expierenced, refurbished phones are rarely problem free. Thus causing people to question refurb phones and the quality control that goes into refurbishment.
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ioos said:
I just activated my refurbished phone. It took Sprint a month to get one for me. This one doesn't charge at all. The store said it would take at least a week to get me another one. When I asked what I should do about my phone in the meantime, the employee told me I could bring my phone into the store everyday to have them charge it. He was serious.
The icing on the cake is that they won't call when the new phone comes in. I'm supposed to call them everyday and ask if it's there. But the store doesn't ever answer their phone! After going through the phone tree twice, it just says "Sorry, all reps are busy, please make an appointment online." Somehow this is the only store in all of San Francisco that can even do replacements. I ****ing hate Sprint. [/RANT]
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Call tech support and tell them your situation and they can send you one over the phone. I have the same problem in the southbay. The store always has at least a 45 min wait before you can even get help and they never answer their phone.
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Rem3Dy said:
Call tech support and tell them your situation and they can send you one over the phone. I have the same problem in the southbay. The store always has at least a 45 min wait before you can even get help and they never answer their phone.
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You mean sorta like download a new one?? Gotta love Sprint's technology

Will they send you a phone if they can't verify the issue? Is there a specific support number you call?

I've never received a replacement "over the phone", it has always taken overnight.
Refurb'd phones are put back together poorly IMO, my wife got a replacement that started to seperate from the case, we complained, they sent a "New" EVO the next day.
I have two refurb'd that are just fine though, we have 8 EVO's.

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You mean sorta like download a new one?? Gotta love Sprint's technology
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Really? I knew the level of intelligence on XDA was going downhill.......
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Jim M said:
I've never received a replacement "over the phone", it has always taken overnight.
Refurb'd phones are put back together poorly IMO, my wife got a replacement that started to seperate from the case, we complained, they sent a "New" EVO the next day.
I have two refurb'd that are just fine though, we have 8 EVO's.
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The term over the phone refers to the fact he can get a replacement by speaking to someone over the phone instead of having to deal with the situation he has at his local sprint store.
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ioos said:
Will they send you a phone if they can't verify the issue? Is there a specific support number you call?
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Yea they will. You should be honest about the problem because if you lie and sprint determines there is no issue with they phone they can charge you an additional amount.
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Sprint has questionable refurbishment techniques. I've been told that the whole process is outsourced. I've read a lot about people getting refurbished phones that have known problems, like screen separation and bright spots on the screen. In many cases, it seems likely that those are the reasons why the phone was returned in the first place, and their refurbishing does not take care of the issue for which the phone was returned.
That said, I used to be on a Centro, and I went through three new ones before I ended up with a refurb. The refurb lasted a hell of a lot longer than the new ones. The only problem with it is that it was kind of gross when I got it. It had smudges and one of the buttons was a little cracked. But the phone itself worked great for the year and a half that I used it.
And yea, there's the gross factor too. Who knows who had their face pressed up against my refurb phone. Ick.

I don't like the idea that it could have been thumped around, and only the most obvious failing component was replaced, leaving you with a "ready to break" phone. That being said, I've never actually had a problem with a refurbished unit, (phone or other). All in the head I guess.
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usmaak said:
Sprint has questionable refurbishment techniques. I've been told that the whole process is outsourced. I've read a lot about people getting refurbished phones that have known problems, like screen separation and bright spots on the screen. In many cases, it seems likely that those are the reasons why the phone was returned in the first place, and their refurbishing does not take care of the issue for which the phone was returned.
That said, I used to be on a Centro, and I went through three new ones before I ended up with a refurb. The refurb lasted a hell of a lot longer than the new ones. The only problem with it is that it was kind of gross when I got it. It had smudges and one of the buttons was a little cracked. But the phone itself worked great for the year and a half that I used it.
And yea, there's the gross factor too. Who knows who had their face pressed up against my refurb phone. Ick.
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I've seen as many new Evo's that had the screen separation issues, charger issues etc etc. I can see there being a bit more of a chance that a refurbished device isn't going to be up to par. I like the idea of maybe a new device and every device following is a refurb. As for the dirty screens ... maybe that's how I caught that face tattoo known as cheek herpes. :debbiedownerface:
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Riding the white pony?
Rem3Dy said:
The term over the phone refers to the fact he can get a replacement by speaking to someone over the phone instead of having to deal with the situation he has at his local sprint store.
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Well... DUH, some people have no sense of humor, must be due to lack of root... I dunno.

So far only on my first refurb from August last year. So far so good (knocks wood). My launch day (002)Evo's 4G got up, and gone (radio was shot). The refurb is a launch day 003. As with anything you put in contact with your body for the first time you should wipe it down first even if new(some of the toxic chemicals used in production are rather nasty).

Broken EPIC? Don't use Asurion ONLINE!

My EPIC got broken by a family member last week. That night, I went to www.phoneclaim.com as suggested by a local Sprint associate. I filled out the forms after reading all the nice comments saying how fast it was.
Every time I went to check back, I got a message saying the phone was out of stock and it would take 1-3 business days from the claim to ship.
At the end of business today, I called them, to find out that it was an erroneous message.
At the end, when they asked if I had any questions, I asked why this was so easy for the phone rep when I was getting those messages? And there was also a note on the website that was meant to discourage calling, by saying that the phone reps didn't have any more information than what I was seeing. Obviously wrong.
I was told that the EPIC was a high demand phone, and it was being used to replace other phones, so the system was putting claims for it on "hold". Sounds like bull to me.
Anyway- just sayin'- if you break yours, don't bother with an online claim, just call.

I did an online claim 2 weeks ago. It seemed fine to me. Got it next day! I even asked them if I could get a nexus s4g, but was denied!

Kinda off topic but I HATE my refurbished epic. The digitizer is raised above the bevel in one corner, call speaker is twingy, capacitive buttons are not sensitive at all, worst of all there is screen burn in all over and I can clearly see the word undo on white screens. I am trying to get it replaced with a brand new one but they are giving me **** for it.
This is how most ppl end up with a nexus s. I don't want one but if I'm offered one how am I supposed to refuse?
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xopher.hunter said:
Kinda off topic but I HATE my refurbished epic. The digitizer is raised above the bevel in one corner, call speaker is twingy, capacitive buttons are not sensitive at all, worst of all there is screen burn in all over and I can clearly see the word undo on white screens. I am trying to get it replaced with a brand new one but they are giving me **** for it.
This is how most ppl end up with a nexus s. I don't want one but if I'm offered one how am I supposed to refuse?
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I don't understand why they can't spend a few seconds just to turn the phone on and make sure it functions before sending it back out.
I have best buy's insurance, sent my phone in for repair after getting shot screen first by an airsoft gun. The phone I received in return the capacitive buttons hardly worked. I had to smash the buttons for it to begin to register.
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my refurb epic has the loudest vibration ive ever seen on a phone. not strongest, loudest. like the vibrator knocking up against something inside.

I think we all have replacements? Hm anyway my screen digitizer has a similar problem with it being above the bevel at one corner
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This is why I don't bother with insurance on phones. If I do something to my phone that destroys it, that's my own damn fault and I'll bite the bullet to spend full price on a replacement, get a used one on Craigslist or just activate an old phone in a kitchen drawer. If the phone is defective, that's what manufacturer warranties are for. Now if the insurance guaranteed a new replacement with any sort of claim, I might consider it, but I know too many people who got burned by these companies with ****ty refurbished replacments.

ac16313 said:
I think we all have replacements? Hm anyway my screen digitizer has a similar problem with it being above the bevel at one corner
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Hey I still have my release day epic.lol, Im actually about to swap it back out with the wife for my old 3d.
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ac16313 said:
I think we all have replacements? Hm anyway my screen digitizer has a similar problem with it being above the bevel at one corner
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I had my new epic for 10 monhs. The refurb I got had more scratches on the screen than my old one
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I'm running my 4th epic. First one went in water, so I had it replaced. They replaced it with one that got no signal, and it was hell trying to get them to realize they sentence a bad phone. But I got a new one. Then about two weeks ago I sort of bricked it, (its not bricked because I can get to download mode, but I can't get recovery to read the sd card.) And here I am with number 4.
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I have only received one refurb ever in my 10 years with Sprint. Lucky me.
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worldwidepmp said:
I have only received one refurb ever in my 10 years with Sprint. Lucky me.
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Same here, and it was when I was still using flip phones.

I'm so glad I've taking care of my baby no scratches and have been running "naked" for a couple of months now and still have an extra screen cover somewhere I've dropped it once, stupid bus driver , other than that its been all good. Love my epic would hate to damage it seriously.... as would anyone else.
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My wife has an Evo Shift she got from Asurion, seems okay. We didn't use the online claim form, we called as soon as we realized her phone was gone.
My out-of-the-box Moment has a bug that would turn on voice commands if I moved the headphone jack just right. Never bothered to try to get Radio Shack to replace it. The GPS died on it, so I'd have a claim if I ever activated it again.
Hmm...old age creeps in. My Epic is my second epic... the original died within a couple of days, the microphone wouldn't work on the phone. Got a new one out of the box from the Shack and it's been good to me.

Ok now that this thread is fully derailed
Do you guys know what I should do? My refurb epic has burnt in bubbles all over the screen, the word "undo", and PM. It also has very unresponsive capacitive keys. And feels like a ringing bell if tapped right lol.
But yeah do I have enough proof to get it replaced? I'll settle for just the screen being replaced. I would prefer them to just give me a new one however I am aprehensive to go in since I see on here a lot of people get offered a nexus s out of this situation.
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xopher.hunter said:
Ok now that this thread is fully derailed
Do you guys know what I should do? My refurb epic has burnt in bubbles all over the screen, the word "undo", and PM. It also has very unresponsive capacitive keys. And feels like a ringing bell if tapped right lol.
But yeah do I have enough proof to get it replaced? I'll settle for just the screen being replaced. I would prefer them to just give me a new one however I am aprehensive to go in since I see on here a lot of people get offered a nexus s out of this situation.
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If they offer you one just tell them no you want an epic... you might have to wait a little longer but they will give you an epic if that's what you want... and yes if you have proof of the problems then you're good to go...
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On second epic after going thru about 8 Moments, mostly known issues like GPS and screen issues. Too bad cuz that phone had potential. It had become unusable.

my sister dropped her phone and cracked the screen, called put a claim in, and they overnighted her an GS II Epic Touch. They didn't even want her broken epic back. She is on a business account so I dunno if that has anything to do with it.

dakotakid said:
On second epic after going thru about 8 Moments, mostly known issues like GPS and screen issues. Too bad cuz that phone had potential. It had become unusable.
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I read somewhere that the moment had a gpu that was never activated. That nugget of info kept me from getting the epic earlier sadly.

My Asurion Epic was like new. Refurb, supposedly, but a nice one. I can't complain.

Cracked my N4's screen, unusable, where do I go from here? [UK]

So, it happened to me. Just my luck.
Was at university walking and the phone slipped from my hand onto the floor. It seemed to have survived that fairly well. Then it slid off the stairs (no barrier at the edge of the staircase going up my university) and fell about 8-10 feet onto the stair case below. Screen is ruined and unresponsive.
The phone is rooted and has an unlocked bootloader so I know this voids the warranty but I can lock the bootloader again and flash the phone back to the stock rom via cwm.
I bought the phone from Carphone Warehouse for £400 back in December because I couldn't wait and now I'm left with a brick. I need a phone to handle uni life and contact my fianceé in the States. I don't really want to have to spend money I don't have on a replacement N4 so is there anything I can do guys?
Any help at all will be extremely appreciated.
(I'd post a link to an image of the screen but cannot do so yet).
Thanks

Sorry to hear that, however the only option I think would've been better if you had phone insurance and it would replace your damaged phone and it would cost like 5 pounds a month. On the other hand maybe you can send it to Carphonewarehouse and see what the estimate is to get it repaired. Don't think rooted or not makes much difference in this situation.
Anyway good luck and hope you find some solution
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Ouch, nightmare...
The only cheap way is to repair it yourself. If the mainboard is ok, get a new front and back panel. From the teardown I've seen of the Nexus 4, it doesn't seem that difficult. I'm sure there is a vid on youtube you can use as guide. If you can't do it yourself, a new phone seems to be the only option. At least it will be cheaper this time... Did you have a case on it when it dropped?

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Ouch, nightmare...
The only cheap way is to repair it yourself. If the mainboard is ok, get a new front and back panel. From the teardown I've seen of the Nexus 4, it doesn't seem that difficult. I'm sure there is a vid on youtube you can use as guide. If you can't do it yourself, a new phone seems to be the only option. At least it will be cheaper this time... Did you have a case on it when it dropped?
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See that seems doable but the only problem is is the (is it aluminium?) that goes around the phone also got dented as it fell. This is even worse considering I actually DID have a case on it. I was using the Ringke Slim case. If anybody is using this case I highly recommend them to rethink their purchase because even though the phone hit the floor side on, it didn't protect it. Imagine if it hit face down. I have another generic 'S' silicone case from eBay and that would have done a far better job at protecting the sides. Shoulda, woulda, coulda eh?
Im wondering if LG's manufacture warranty will work in my favour at all? I just don't have the funds to replace the phone comfortably but that's the only option I see unfortunately.

I don't think you'll have any luck with warranty repair. Sorry about your phone though.

https://play.google.com/store/devices/details?id=nexus_4_8gb
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A coworker priced out replacing his front screen and it was ~$260usd.
At that point Id just order another phone and sell the first for parts.

ryan stewart said:
A coworker priced out replacing his front screen and it was ~$260usd.
At that point Id just order another phone and sell the first for parts.
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Sell the phone for parts? How would that work? Im not very savvy with this side of phones. Do I sell the phone in its entirety to a company who buys things like that? Sell on eBay for really cheap trying to get whatever I can get?

LG are asking for £40-120 dependent on the level of damage.

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LG are asking for £40-120 dependent on the level of damage.
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Really? Please can you give me a link to this info? I'd pay anything between that in a heartbeat if I can get it fixed. Once I reach 10 posts I'll post some images of the phone.

Do u have a lloydstsb account? They do free phone insurance and fixed my broken screen in the uk.
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Do u have a lloydstsb account? They do free phone insurance and fixed my broken screen in the uk.
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Really?! Yes I do! How would I go about doing this?

Check their website there's a link from there. Give them a call register the phone with them log on to their website and create a claim. Then they ask you to send the phone in. Note: do everything recorded del. It costs £50 excess they turned mine around in under two weeks from start to finish
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LG are asking for £40-120 dependent on the level of damage.
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Really? Please can you give me a link to this info? I'd pay anything between that in a heartbeat if I can get it fixed. Once I reach 10 posts I'll post some images of the phone.
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This is true, I've read threads on here and Reddit with this information but can't find them atm.
Contact LG directly and they should help you.

fairlight2x said:
Ouch, nightmare...
The only cheap way is to repair it yourself. If the mainboard is ok, get a new front and back panel. From the teardown I've seen of the Nexus 4, it doesn't seem that difficult. I'm sure there is a vid on youtube you can use as guide. If you can't do it yourself, a new phone seems to be the only option. At least it will be cheaper this time... Did you have a case on it when it dropped?
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I disagree. The only cheap way to do it is via insurance, 50 quid excess or whatever is a lot cheaper than the 150 pound screen is going to cost.

Cosmetic flaws

So I'm almost done with my first 30 days with the Moto X and I have stumbled across some flaws.
1. Dust behind the glass. I found two small dust particles while installing a cheap screen protector. Removed the protector and its still there.
2. The screen doesn't sit flush. When swiping my hand to the left, i can feel a lip. Swipe to the right and there's no lip until I run my fingers down towards the bottom right corner.
3. There's a fiber out of place and it catches my finger when running my hand across the Woven White back.
So in other words I'm considering returning it to be fixed. I may be a jerk, but I paid good money for it and expect the same in return. Anyone else go this route for flaws on their Moto X? What's the usual turn around time?
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Mine has none of those flaws. By all means return it. But for refund, not repair. Then just order a new one.

I though about the refund route, but I got it at $100 off that one week and i don't want to pay the extra $30.
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Tell them that, and politely insist on the same deal on the new order. Ask for escalation if you must. They'll get it squared away for you.

Well I'll try the repair route first to see how things turn out and how fast their turn around time is. Its suppose to go through more inspections before coming back to me, but we'll see about that. I'll ask for the refund if it's not perfect this time around.
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Sounds like the repair will take you outside the return period.

Has anyone had their phone repaired? I don't have another device to use other than an iPhone (eww) so I don't know if I'll bother if it takes an extended amount of time..
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Solutions Etcetera said:
Tell them that, and politely insist on the same deal on the new order. Ask for escalation if you must. They'll get it squared away for you.
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I tried this route (returned a def. X for a refund because at the time I thought I would switch to the N5 but have since decided to stick with the X). I asked for another $100 off code (or $30 depending on how you look at it) and they wouldn't budge. They said they can only honor what is currently on the web site. Went through two reps on this.
Guess I am getting the N5 after all.

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I tried this route (returned a def. X for a refund because at the time I thought I would switch to the N5 but have since decided to stick with the X). I asked for another $100 off code (or $30 depending on how you look at it) and they wouldn't budge. They said they can only honor what is currently on the web site. Went through two reps on this.
Guess I am getting the N5 after all.
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Was your negotiation with them at the time you arranged for the return or after the fact?
I was one of the original 150 off cyber Monday buyers, and when I spoke to them about a return I mentioned this and they made arrangements to offer the same pricing on a replacement order.

I have returned many devices with motorola and am in the process of returning another one. Currently they only do Advanced returns, meaning that they give you a code to build another phone for zero money up front. If they receive the returned phone within 10 days of you getting your new phone, then they wont charge you. If its past 10 days, they will charge you.

They offered me the same advanced order initially. Just that now I want to go case-less and need a perfectly smooth back. Since its there, might as well swap out the screen due to a piece of lint and not being flush. As for the 30 day return period... I'm sure they'll OK it if I change my mind. Its not my fault there's something wrong with the phone. If all else fails, switching to Nexus 5 or GPE HTC One because I hate the Galaxy S4.
I have to say though, it is nice jumping back onto the old Galaxy Nexus with CM11.
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I have the same bezel flaw and I wish I had gotten it taken care of when I got the phone
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So I finally got my phone back yesterday. At first glance they didn't fix anything. I still have debris behind the screen, barely noticeable. Still have the defects on the back cover. So naturally I called, as I have been all last week, and spoke directly with the Repair Call Center Manager on Duty and he is sending out a new Moto X because of my problems with the phone. On top of that, because of all the BS I dealt with last week, I got a bunch of other free stuff altogether. First off, they gave a free Commuter case the first week I had the phone. Called back and complained about their horrible repair lead time and misinformation and got a Power Pack 3000. Called the day my phone was to be shipped out and got a free Bluetooth Car Speaker. Called yesterday because I didn't get my Moto X Retail Box back even though I was promised I would and I got a free Motorola Buds Bluetooth Headset.
So yeah, I made them pay for their overall poor Customer Service. I explained to the manager that I was not about to put my funds on hold for their mistakes and that I wanted to know who was going to take full responsibility for the actions that have occurred. I stood my ground and made them sorry for treating me that way. Hence I ended up with about $214 of free stuff.
If I don't get my new phone by Thursday, hell will break loose again, this time I won't hold back.
And just for the record, they don't know if anyone has already offered you a free accessory, hence they offered the Power Pack twice.
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So I finally got my phone back yesterday. At first glance they didn't fix anything. I still have debris behind the screen, barely noticeable. Still have the defects on the back cover. So naturally I called, as I have been all last week, and spoke directly with the Repair Call Center Manager on Duty and he is sending out a new Moto X because of my problems with the phone. On top of that, because of all the BS I dealt with last week, I got a bunch of other free stuff altogether. First off, they gave a free Commuter case the first week I had the phone. Called back and complained about their horrible repair lead time and misinformation and got a Power Pack 3000. Called the day my phone was to be shipped out and got a free Bluetooth Car Speaker. Called yesterday because I didn't get my Moto X Retail Box back even though I was promised I would and I got a free Motorola Buds Bluetooth Headset.
So yeah, I made them pay for their overall poor Customer Service. I explained to the manager that I was not about to put my funds on hold for their mistakes and that I wanted to know who was going to take full responsibility for the actions that have occurred. I stood my ground and made them sorry for treating me that way. Hence I ended up with about $214 of free stuff.
If I don't get my new phone by Thursday, hell will break loose again, this time I won't hold back.
And just for the record, they don't know if anyone has already offered you a free accessory, hence they offered the Power Pack twice.
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I bet you get free hotel rooms too?
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I bet you get free hotel rooms too?
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No free hotel rooms yet. But I'm working on it. That's what they get for messing with a retired Bill Collector.
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overthatscreen said:
No free hotel rooms yet. But I'm working on it. That's what they get for messing with a retired Bill Collector.
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You tell em........I'm sure your trouble was "worth" 200+ bucks.
Way to keep the general prices up for everyone else. It was free to you, but the rest of the world now has to pay for you "teaching them a lesson"
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Of course it's teaching them a lesson. I paid a fair price for a phone that should have came in a better condition than that. If it was to be fair, they should've allowed me to use the flawed Bitcoin payment in exchange for the phone.
But if you're up for paying for an item only to receive it with flaws that's you're own choice. I have a few junk cars that you might be interested in.
And from a real consumers point of view. I don't mind paying good money for a good product. But if you think I would let you pull a fast one on me, you are in for a world of hurt.
And by the way, you may have already paid the price by not standing up for yourself and allowing companies to push you around to make a profit. I'm just not gullible enough to allow that. I was just hoping to help anyone else who has had a fast one pulled on them.
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You must be a treat to deal with in stores at the returns desk. Wow! Lol
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kj2112 said:
You must be a treat to deal with in stores at the returns desk. Wow! Lol
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I actually don't return items too often unless it doesn't work as suggested. But if you like being ripped off, by all means go for it.
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overthatscreen said:
Of course it's teaching them a lesson. I paid a fair price for a phone that should have came in a better condition than that. If it was to be fair, they should've allowed me to use the flawed Bitcoin payment in exchange for the phone.
But if you're up for paying for an item only to receive it with flaws that's you're own choice. I have a few junk cars that you might be interested in.
And from a real consumers point of view. I don't mind paying good money for a good product. But if you think I would let you pull a fast one on me, you are in for a world of hurt.
And by the way, you may have already paid the price by not standing up for yourself and allowing companies to push you around to make a profit. I'm just not gullible enough to allow that. I was just hoping to help anyone else who has had a fast one pulled on them.
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You and I share the same philosophy. If I pay good money (or any money) for a product, it better be FLAWLESS otherwise you bet your a$$ I'm going to raise hell and keep exchanging until I get what I want. I went through 5 HTC One X's in a 2 week period just trying to get a flawless one. Went through 4 Nexus 7s as well. The whole argument about people like you and I driving costs up is ridiculous and without any merit- if anything it's beneficial to everyone else because it lets manufacturers know that they are releasing defective products and they can't get away with it, and in a perfect world ultimately resulting in stricter quality control. People who are OK with keeping defective products are the ones who hurt the industry.
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Is Nexus Protect needed?

I've been thinking about it, and I use my phones with cases and screen protectors, any other thing that can go wrong is manufacturing and that's covered by regular warranty.
Also paying a $79 deductible if anything happens.. I'm just wondering if you guys would recommend me getting it.
Did you guys get it and why?

I did not buy it but probably would in hindsight after seeing the problems people are having with the soft chasis.
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I got it because with the size of the phone I'm not going to use a case. The Nexus 6P feels smaller in my pocket naked than my Nexus 5 did with a Slim Armor case.

I didn't get it, and while I'm still a little on the fence, its ultimately a gamble against yourself and I don't think I'd get it if given the chance. If you're careful with your phone you'll likely end up not needing it. The way I see it, if you're careful with your phone and case/screen protector it then chances are at least good that you won't crack your screen....and if you do, it very well may be that it's far enough down the road that buying a new (or near new) one from a third party wouldn't be THAT much more than the $200 you would have already spent on the Nexus protect plan.
Additionally, yes manufacturing defects could appear in year 2, but if they're that glaring of an issue then year 1 is the more than likely timeframe in which they will pop up. Finally, if nothing else you could always just buy a squaretrade warranty or something similar. It's not THAT much different in price....

i got it bc $89 versus the $650 plus taxes plus overnight shiping my phone cost, it seemed a drop in the bucket. plus i work in construction, ive actually dropped a phone off a 12 ft ladder before, luckily it was in an otterbox defender atm.

Just as an FYI I asked a rep and they said that you can't retroactively buy it. It has to be with the purchase of a nexus. So if you have your phone already you couldn't get it even it you wanted. (I might call and fight this)

for people that missed out on the Nexus Protect, Squaretrade is pretty close. I called them up for a deal although I heard several Promo codes can be found, $89 for 2 years and $75 per dedcutible.

theycallmerayj said:
Just as an FYI I asked a rep and they said that you can't retroactively buy it. It has to be with the purchase of a nexus. So if you have your phone already you couldn't get it even it you wanted. (I might call and fight this)
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I think it is a excellent idea that you can only purchase at the point of purchase with the phone. This will cut down on insurance fraud drastically. Please understand, I am not saying this is you. All these years as an XDA member, I have seen numerous posts from members asking if they can add their carrier's insurance to their plan AFTER they broke their phone for obvious reasons.
All of the information of Nexus Protect was posted on the website during the Google presentation. While ordering the phone, a conscious decision had to be made to accept or decline Nexus Protect.
Maybe as a compromise, Nexus Protect could be available to customers up to 30 days after phone purchase, like SquareTrade? This way a customer could try the phone out and see if they will be keeping it, and not lost the Nexus Protect payment if they returned the phone.

Lol

PaisanNYC said:
I think it is a excellent idea that you can only purchase at the point of purchase with the phone. This will cut down on insurance fraud drastically. Please understand, I am not saying this is you. All these years as an XDA member, I have seen numerous posts from members asking if they can add their carrier's insurance to their plan AFTER they broke their phone for obvious reasons.
All of the information of Nexus Protect was posted on the website during the Google presentation. While ordering the phone, a conscious decision had to be made to accept or decline Nexus Protect.
Maybe as a compromise, Nexus Protect could be available to customers up to 30 days after phone purchase, like SquareTrade? This way a customer could try the phone out and see if they will be keeping it, and not lost the Nexus Protect payment if they returned the phone.
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30 days would be nice....Verizon lets you add insurance within 30 days of purchase (obviously you cant buy the N6P as a carrier phone though)
One could almost make an argument it should be like the extended warranty on a car: can be purchased anytime during the original factory warranty. Even if its higher priced after X amount of time after initial purchase, they should still allow people to buy it.
There is always the chance for fraud....see how easily one can get an RMA unit sometime in the next year for something that "accidentally" happened. Especially something like broken camera glass that is spontaneously occurring, or could occur if you dropped the unit then claimed it did it all by itself.

Just had Google support call me. My device is processing for my 1st RMA; my rep told me that there is no way to add Nexus protect unless I return the device and add Nexus protect to my original order.
That sucks
On the plus side, Google's support is awesome. I've never had such a good series of tech support calls. +1 to Google for that!

Akasa Fox said:
Just had Google support call me. My device is processing for my 1st RMA; my rep told me that there is no way to add Nexus protect unless I return the device and add Nexus protect to my original order.
That sucks
On the plus side, Google's support is awesome. I've never had such a good series of tech support calls. +1 to Google for that!
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Frankly I think Google needs to offer a week extension for those who want to purchase Nexus protect now that they have the device and the general reviews are in. If they had told me that the phone was twice as likely as other devices to break them I would have preached it upfront, ...I made the mistake of assuming that there phone was built to these standards of other Nexus and Android manufacturers. This is my first Huawei phone so I can only assume that any quality defects are reflective of their brand in general and not just this device. This is also a negative score for the other and in most cases smaller manufacturers trying to break into the US market.
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Yes this phone is the reason why Nexus protect was born.

For the past few days I've been doing the "table test" (putting the phone face down on a flat surface and seeing if it rocks), and up until tonight it sat flush with no wiggle at all. When I tried it tonight, there was a slight wiggle (4 different surfaces w/ case off). The phone is cased and I am super careful with it, and if this is happening after less than a week I can't imagine what would happen in the next 2 years. As hard as it was I made the decision to send it back (even with Nexus Protect already purchased). I would absolutely get Nexus Protect.

To the OP, I say get Nexus Protect or some kind of insurance. Better safe than sorry. I spent $650+ tax on a 126gb phone, usually when phones are newer the costs of replacement screens is insane. $200-400 just for a display assembly. So fixing it yourself is pricey if you break the screen. I replace phone screens for some phones, mostly iPhones because they are a little less complex, don't usually require any heat to remove. This is a phone I probably wouldn't attempt to repair myself and having someone repair it for you would probably be half the price of a new phone.
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I got it because with the size of the phone I'm not going to use a case. The Nexus 6P feels smaller in my pocket naked than my Nexus 5 did with a Slim Armor case.
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I got the Spigen rugged armor case for now and it's actually really nice. It hugs the phone and doesn't make it seem larger really. The case is a little slick, but not as slick as the phone.

PaisanNYC said:
I think it is a excellent idea that you can only purchase at the point of purchase with the phone. This will cut down on insurance fraud drastically. Please understand, I am not saying this is you. All these years as an XDA member, I have seen numerous posts from members asking if they can add their carrier's insurance to their plan AFTER they broke their phone for obvious reasons.
All of the information of Nexus Protect was posted on the website during the Google presentation. While ordering the phone, a conscious decision had to be made to accept or decline Nexus Protect.
Maybe as a compromise, Nexus Protect could be available to customers up to 30 days after phone purchase, like SquareTrade? This way a customer could try the phone out and see if they will be keeping it, and not lost the Nexus Protect payment if they returned the phone.
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I was in such a rush to order my 6P and get the device on the first wave that I didn't even think about clicking Nexus Protect. I got in touch with customer service and they would not let me add it after my order was in, even in the pre-order stage. Bummer but yes it would have been better if you could add it on as an after thought.
I really regret not having Nexus Protect, seems like the way to go on this.

Crazy Homeless Guy said:
If they had told me that the phone was twice as likely as other devices to break them I would have preached it upfront, ...I made the mistake of assuming that there phone was built to these standards of other Nexus and Android manufacturers.
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Twice as likely? That's just trolling. The 6P may possibly be the best Nexus phone produced, and I owned all of them with the exception of the Nexus S. Look at the other XDA forums for past Nexus devices and then come back and make the same statement. I've seen more complaints (and still do) in the Moto Nexus 6 forums.

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Twice as likely? That's just trolling. The 6P may possibly be the best Nexus phone produced, and I owned all of them with the exception of the Nexus S. Look at the other XDA forums for past Nexus devices and then come back and make the same statement. I've seen more complaints (and still do) in the Moto Nexus 6 forums.
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So the other Nexus phones bend within the first week from pocket wear and tear and have random cracking camera covers?
At this point it isn't if the phone breaks but when will it break. I am hoping to get 6 months of use before I start having durability problems.
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Seeing all the issues, end with the deductible, I'd buy it in a jiffy if it were available here across the pond.

The fact that they'll express you a new phone like the next day makes it worth it for me. Being without a phone for even a day can be costly for me. And since it's google, I actually expect that they would perform as stated if not better.