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My evo is gone for 30days :(

I found out the hard way.
I switch from sprint insurance to best buy.
Clerk at the store sold me on it when he said any problems, bring it back and we will give you a new phone no questions asked.
Big lie.
My camera lens and usb port broke.
Best Buy said that had to mail it in to repair it. They said it takes 30 days.
So, then i got a loaner phone for $150 deposit. El Cheapo samsung something...
So, I would stay with sprint for anyone wondering.

yes best buy black tie is one lie after another unfortunately
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Yeah I'm stick with that sit too until I upgrade
****ing salesman
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I does suck to be with out your phone but the one thing that BB is good for is water. My wife droped her EVO in soup sprint would not replace her phone if we were with them.
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I hate best buy's insurance.
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mikeb4g said:
I does suck to be with out your phone but the one thing that BB is good for is water. My wife droped her EVO in soup sprint would not replace her phone if we were with them.
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Of course Sprint is not able to replace liquid damaged phones, we deal strictly with service repairs and that is beyond typical damage or malfunctioning hardware/software.
But...we do have the asurion insurance for those times when you have those soup accidents, and asurions turn around time is usally less than 48 hours, and I do beleive now if you request it there is an overnight option.

I hate Best Buy in general. I mean seriously, they are still charging upwards of $25 for cables that you can get anywhere else for less than $10. I used to really like them, now I get disappointed every time I go in there.
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I hate Best Buy in general. I mean seriously, they are still charging upwards of $25 for cables that you can get anywhere else for less than $10. I used to really like them, now I get disappointed every time I go in there.
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It's been that way for 10+ years...

yeah, they tried to pull that on me with the replacement plan for my little brother's xbox that magically turned into a service plan where they had to send it to Microsoft. Why would i pay them for a two year warranty when Microsoft covers them for 3 years and provides free shipping. Kept arguing with them to no avail, asked for a refund of the warranty, they prorate it so it would have been like $5. No deal, I sent an angry letter to a bunch of corporate emails at best buy i found, including the ceo, sent it to the consumerist and threatened to go to my state ag about the whole bait and switch they tried to pull. Next day got an email back that they were looking into it and a day later had it replaced with a new one.

kthejoker20 said:
I found out the hard way.
I switch from sprint insurance to best buy.
Clerk at the store sold me on it when he said any problems, bring it back and we will give you a new phone no questions asked.
Big lie.
My camera lens and usb port broke.
Best Buy said that had to mail it in to repair it. They said it takes 30 days.
So, then i got a loaner phone for $150 deposit. El Cheapo samsung something...
So, I would stay with sprint for anyone wondering.
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That's because the employees don't all understand what the store's policy covers, they don't train them all on the policy. I ran into this with my flatscreen. I asked the kid a question about something I read in the return policy and he said, "um, I didn't know that, they don't really train us on it, but let me find out...". Not his fault, its management's.
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ramiss said:
I hate Best Buy in general. I mean seriously, they are still charging upwards of $25 for cables that you can get anywhere else for less than $10. I used to really like them, now I get disappointed every time I go in there.
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And I can't stand stupid uninformed and unintelligent customers who come into my store, telling me that their cheapo HDMI cable from cablestogo or wherever, is better than AudioQuest cables... Please, maybe that **** is ok for you, but I actually enjoy getting the best audio and video from my multi-thousand dollar home theater setup... Pfffft.
Don't hate.
I have Best Buy black tie on both of my Evo's. I like what Sprint has done though, so I may change.

in this base.
Both of my Evos speakers blew out. had black tie/tye whatever insurance, they said bring it in we'll replace it, yaddayadda.
Brought it in "oh this is a manufacturer defect, we'd have to send it in, it'd take a few weeks."
"Oh **** that." Went to Sprint and paid $35 for them to repair it. Got it back and my camera glass was no longer cracked, adn the exterior had a crack in bottom left that is now gone. So i assume i got a refurbished one. It had 119 lifetime calls and 92 minutes...which sounds about right for me etc, but p.sure it wasn't my phone I gave them.

ramiss said:
I hate Best Buy in general. I mean seriously, they are still charging upwards of $25 for cables that you can get anywhere else for less than $10. I used to really like them, now I get disappointed every time I go in there.
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Dude. Have you ever used barcode scanner in best buy ? Most of their stuff is WAY over priced.
I was looking at a stereo receiver they had for 700......scanned the barcode and new egg had it for 350. LITERALLY HALF. Best buy is good for one thing and one thing only.......WINDOW SHOPPING.
The car stereo i just bought.......800 at best buy.....400 from a reputable car stereo site.
They have caught on to the scanning now. Their posted barcodes, next to the price, now will take you DIRECTLY to the best buy site.
You have to scan from the product packaging only !
They exhist to take advantage of the technogically challenged.
Try the barcode scanner app in there and you'll see what im getting at.
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Oh....we will hate. Best buy is a joke man. Read my prior post. They exhist to rip off the tech challenged, like people over 55. Thats a generalization i know but mostly true.
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I think just like any store best buy Is good for something bad for others
Me I can't wait 3o days I asked questions when the clerk tried to sell me on it and it was not for me always Google anything remember they are sales men so its there job u as a customer should have jus researched it
I would rather pay the fee instead of wait but I can understand how it can suit some people jus didn't for me
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jasonziter said:
Oh....we will hate. Best buy is a joke man. Read my prior post. They exhist to rip off the tech challenged, like people over 55. Thats a generalization i know but mostly true.
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Oh really? What do you base this off of? The fact that you found a USB cable / CAT5/6 cable online for cheaper? Have you checked out prices on speakers, TV's, laptops, desktops, appliances, PC/console games, digital cameras, or SMART PHONES etc...?
If you weren't so close minded, maybe you would understand.

I think most people have a problem with best buy's delivery. They say they will replace your phone instantly for x,y,z° reason when the truth is its going out for service for 30 days and 150 deposit for some startek moto type loaner. Its best buy's fault for selling you a dream and the consumers fault for not reading the pamphlet they give you at the time of sale. Learn from it.
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the consumers fault for not reading the pamphlet they give you at the time of sale. Learn from it.
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Everyone keeps talking about a pamphlet.
I never got a pamphlet or any literature. Just a receipt with purchase price.

Well they really got you! They gave me a pamphlet when I bought my Evo. And even though the sales guy said they would replace my phone for ANY reason the pamphlet clearly says other wise. There's even a black tie webpage thru bestbuy.com and it tells you the process of replacement.
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my salesperson at BB is a buddy of mine, he said if anything happens make sure its UNREPAIRABLE i.e. ran over by car/ broken in half.
so, you drop your phone in soup? go throw it against a brick wall until its in small pieces and say it fell out of your car window going down the highway. they will look at it and say this is too bad and give you a new one.
thats just what my friend told me. ymmv

Best buy insurance.

It has been about 20 days. Has anyone got an opinion on whether I should go back and add the insurance for 100? I am in Canada, so it isn't a quick trip.
I'm actually seeing some hard spots that look like dirt on the screen but I suspect the are the coating wearing off.
Seems this is fixed in newer versions of the phone.
Any thoughts on extended warranty and/or the screen?
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Check SquareTrade.com see if they offer warranty service to Canada. It's cheaper and better than in store warranties.
-Nexus S

nxt said:
Check SquareTrade.com see if they offer warranty service to Canada. It's cheaper and better than in store warranties.
-Nexus S
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Squaretrade looks pretty good. Do you have any experience with them? Is it a legitimate operation?
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I dont recommended the Best Buy insurance, maybe its just but ive had nightmares when it comes to filing a warranty claim with them, They just try and give you the run around

How much is the Best Buy insurance? They didn't offer it to me, and I probably would have said no, but I see people say $99/$100 even though checking the Best Buy website just now shows it at $169 for 2 years. That's an awful lot for a insurance that doesn't cover loss/theft.

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How much is the Best Buy insurance? They didn't offer it to me, and I probably would have said no, but I see people say $99/$100 even though checking the Best Buy website just now shows it at $169 for 2 years. That's an awful lot for a insurance that doesn't cover loss/theft.
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i believe for cell phones its monthly. like 10 bucks

Loggerhead87 said:
Squaretrade looks pretty good. Do you have any experience with them? Is it a legitimate operation?
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It's legit. They reimubursed me full retail value for a water damaged iphone. I could tell they didnt want to and tried to be shady about it but at the time the way their contract was worded they had no choice.
I didnt take it personally because I only paid like $50 for the contract and for them to pay $600 out on a device that cost me $200 out of pocket surely annoyed them.

Well when I looked at it, the only difference between the two plans is that the BB plan doesn't specifically state they insure full immersion in liquid where Square Trade does. Drop your Nexus in the ocean then your effed on the BB plan, but not on Square's.
As far as the pricing, it is $9.99 a month and you can only add it within the first 30 days (same as SquareTrade). So the Best Buy model is basically double, however you do have the flexibility to stop paying BB if for instance you buy another phone at any time where as if you use SquareTrade you've already paid for all of your two years regardless of how long you own or wish to protect that specific phone.
I chose the Best Buy Black Tie simply based upon convenience of getting a new phone quicker, though I'm not certain how that works, it just appears to me that it would/could be same day?
Also apparently you can do the Black Tie protection online as well so that's a possibility for the OP specifically.

ritcereal said:
So the Best Buy model is basically double, however you do have the flexibility to stop paying BB if for instance you buy another phone at any time where as if you use SquareTrade you've already paid for all of your two years regardless of how long you own or wish to protect that specific phone.
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Actually you can receive a prorated REFUND on your SquareTrade warranty ANY TIME you want if you sell the phone or don't want the warranty anymore, you can also transfer it to another user!

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Actually you can receive a prorated REFUND on your SquareTrade warranty ANY TIME you want if you sell the phone or don't want the warranty anymore, you can also transfer it to another user!
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Ah thanks for that bit!

So they gave you a really hard time? My phone isnt past its 30 days but I have a dim back button and compared to my best friends wife's phone, the screen is really gray and banded. Also the platinum case scratched it and either way I want to replace it. I have the black tie protection and paid close to six hundred for the phone and 35 for the scratchy case and another 30 for the invisible shield. It sucks that I want to repalce the phone yet again but for the 700 I've shelled out on this thing, it should at least be perfect from the start.
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Jayrod1980 said:
So they gave you a really hard time? My phone isnt past its 30 days but I have a dim back button and compared to my best friends wife's phone, the screen is really gray and banded. Also the platinum case scratched it and either way I want to replace it. I have the black tie protection and paid close to six hundred for the phone and 35 for the scratchy case and another 30 for the invisible shield. It sucks that I want to repalce the phone yet again but for the 700 I've shelled out on this thing, it should at least be perfect from the start.
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The other stuff, yeah, exchange the phone for a bad backlit button or wonky display, but I don't get the platinum case thing. That's your fault, or the case maker's, not Samsung's.
You purchased a 3rd party case which was poorly designed and it damaged your phone's back and think that Samsung/Best Buy are to blame and should have to replace your phone for it?
Isn't that a bit like saying that if you bought a Ford, then slapped on an aftermarket strap-on luggage rack or bike carrier that scratched the paint that Ford should have to let you exchange the car? An extreme example, but the same concept.
Sounds kind of outrageous, doesn't it?
Unless of course scratches on the battery plate are covered as a repairable item under your black tie warranty, which I doubt.

The case has scratched the bezel so that's not easily repaired I wouldn't think.
Also, I agree its not Sammy's fault for the scratches but the other stuff yes. Also, the phone is sold exclusively by best buy and the case is best buys line of cases, the only one out until now. I wouldn't feel bad at all using the all inclusive (minus loss or theft) black tie thing that I pay for. If they won't let you even use it that's just free money for them and makes it a scam.
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Jayrod1980 said:
I wouldn't feel bad at all using the all inclusive (minus loss or theft) black tie thing that I pay for. If they won't let you even use it that's just free money for them and makes it a scam.
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Yeah, if the extended warranty covers stuff like scratches, go for it. Those warranties are almost 100% profit for the seller.

OK, kudos to best buy. They have been awesome to me with the n's, especially with what so.e might think is paranoia. After the case scratches and banding I exchanged mybphone for another. They didn't hassle me at all and after everything I would surely buy from them again. They were great. Unfortunately even though best buy online said they were tmo vendor, they are not. The last phone they had didn't have the creased glass, so I took it. Seems like my last phone was a gem. This one seems more washed out but im tired of fighting. After all the wrangling. It seems there's no such thing as a perfect phone, at least after my g1. A lot of the problems can be blamed on the rush to get gingerbread out for this phone.
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I went to exchange mine after seeing the crease in the glass isnt supposed to be there, of the 24 devices my local store had, every one had it.

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I went to exchange mine after seeing the crease in the glass isnt supposed to be there, of the 24 devices my local store had, every one had it.
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It's not? Mine has it up top bbut not at the bottom. Ah oh well.
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Well I have to hand it to best buy mobile. Not to rag on the parent company but the mobile employees are a cut above normal best buy. Even the ones in the store are a separate entity like magnolia. Since my last post I have returned my phone two more times. The dim back button led to a new one with a dead pixel. The only problem I had was that they claimed that its one replacement per 30 day period. They still helped me out and got me a new one. They seem to genuinely care and gave excellent customer service, even with a picky person like myself.
Unfortunately this store had an entire batch of creased glass screens. I took one anyway as I had to drive a long way to find one that activated tmo. I did this because the other ones in the area were the ones with min availability. They also told me that the ones they had at the place I got mine were their second batch of phones which made me believe they would be less problematic. This one seems OK but the keyboard is acting strange. Its been less than 24hours since I put on my ghost armor so hopefully the sensitivity is just temporarily affected. My last one had the zagg one which was much thicker and had no sensitivity problems so I'm optimistic that this one will clear up.
I also learned that you need to ensure that the place you do an exchange with needs to correctly transfer your black tie protection if you do an in store 30 day exchange. I learned mine was still pegged to my very first one and they had to call up geek squad and fix the problem so that if I did use the warranty that I could actually make a claim.
Has anyone else been told that you can only do one exchange?
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My rant.

As a few of you know I broke my phone a couple of weeks back. And I'm at the point now where I have decided that I need a thread to ***** and moan about my insurance company.
They received my phone on the 21st of June and took my excess and told me the turn around time was 10 days. So day 10 I call up to find out what is going on.
Because the insurers haven't got heard from the repair centre they will automatically send me a replacement. Call today and they don't have a replacement available so will spend the next 5 days looking for one. If they can't find one they will look at a different handset.
This has me worried, I do not under any circumstances want a phone without a hardware keyboard, obviously it needs to be android and must be rootable and have good dev support. I would be interested if anyone can recommend a handset apart from the G2/DZ that fulfills these requirements.
Also using there timeframe the worst case scenario is that the total time I could be without my phone is a month. Which I consider unacceptable given that I pay £10p/m for what is supposed to be one of the best products available in the UK. And I say that because I have to sell this product as a part of my job.
It's a joke.
Feel free to sympathise with me or ***** and moan about your experiences with insurance company's.
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I dont really have no recommendations for ya (sorry), but i hear ya i would be upset too.

Check this list
Other than that... You could get an Iphone and buy a Slider Keyboard case

File a complaint...
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dumraden said:
Check this list
Other than that... You could get an Iphone and buy a Slider Keyboard case
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LOL! iPhone, your funny But seriously its a good list of phones, but Sony is out of the question, I like some Motorola handsets but do any of them have unlocked bootloaders? And a lot of them handsets are not available in the UK
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Have every intention of it, I'm in the process of drafting a letter of complaint

Feel your pain...
When my previous phone (HTC Kaiser) went bad and had to be sent in for warranty repair, I was resigned to going back to my stupid dumb-phone for three weeks and I almost went crazy.
If something were to happen to my Desire Z, I'd be seriously tempted to buy a new one with over-night shipping (no decent phone stores around here), then send the other in for service. I'd just keep the old repaired one for a spare, or sell it.

soory to hear that cj.
Hopefully your insurance company gets their crap together and gets you a replacement asap. Have you ever thought of calling them with a direct threat thatyou will file a complaint to whatever governing department about their incompetency?I can't see how hard it can be to get a replacement for you. FFS they could've easily bought you a new one and send it toyou rather than wasting time trying to find a refurbished unit.

I heard someone once say that insurance is like making a bet that something bad might happen, but seems like you didn't even get a payout when something did happen! £10pm? Sounds like a ripoff.
In your letter of complaint, you can drop in that if they continue not to honour their contract with you, you will take this up with the Financial Ombudsman Service. More info about them here: http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/reclaim/fight-back-fos
The Financial Ombudsman Service website itself also has advice on how to handle complaining before you refer to them:
http://www.financial-ombudsman.org.uk/faq/answers/complaints_a1.html#1
Good luck!

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I heard someone once say that insurance is like making a bet that something bad might happen, but seems like you didn't even get a payout when something did happen! £10pm? Sounds like a ripoff.
In your letter of complaint, you can drop in that if they continue not to honour their contract with you, you will take this up with the Financial Ombudsman Service. More info about them here: http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/reclaim/fight-back-fos
The Financial Ombudsman Service website itself also has advice on how to handle complaining before you refer to them:
http://www.financial-ombudsman.org.uk/faq/answers/complaints_a1.html#1
Good luck!
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Cheers for the links. I have decided to give them until Tuesday before I start going down the the root of making a complaint. If they are unable to offer me suitable replacement handset on Tuesday, I then intend to make a complaint.
I do have another card up my sleeve and its not one that I wanted to play but I may consider it. I work for the UK's second largest mobile phone retailer* and as such the insurance product I have is also the one that I have to sell on a day to day basis. We have it drummed in to our heads that this is one of the best products in country in terms of value for money and the level of cover that it offers.So how am I supposed to sell this supposedly fantastic product when my experience with it has be about the terrible. I am an honest person and do tell things as they are and in all good faith I could not recommended this insurance product given my poor experience with it.
So I'm wondering if I don't get the desired outcome on Tuesday should I tell them this and would it actually help? My guess is no but it is another thing for me to consider
*I wont mention the name but its the company where I work, but we are perceived as wide boys and con men and we have really bad TV advertising. Anyone in the UK should know who I mean

I have just finished writing my letter of complaint. For some reason though I had been locked out of my online account so was unable retrieve my policy id and my claim number. So I called them up and got a surprise. A new handset is on its way to me, i should have it by the end of the week

cjward23 said:
I have just finished writing my letter of complaint. For some reason though I had been locked out of my online account so was unable retrieve my policy id and my claim number. So I called them up and got a surprise. A new handset is on its way to me, i should have it by the end of the week
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Result!
Glad they finally moved on this.

Received my replacement handset today. Got it rooted and virtuous unity running. Wife calls me, volume is on loud but no sound comes out the speaker. Try some music and nothing.
Also the information label under the battery was almost falling off, the void sticker was missing and all of the visible screws looked like they had been unscrewed with an axe.
I now have to wait for a courier to collect the broken phone and wait for them to ship me another replacement.
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Oh no. Giving you a damaged refurb is totally unprofessional. Words fail me.
Hope you get better luck with the next one, but keep that letter handy...

personally, i think this company needs a kick in the you know where.
I say give them 1 last chance for the 2nd replacement phone. if it's as craptastic as the first one, then send in the letter.
or you can play "super pissed off customer" and demand a brand new one for their incompetence

you can try the tmobile my touch 4g slide.

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you can try the tmobile my touch 4g slide.
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Not available in the UK.
I'm really pissed off. I wish I had checked that it was all working before I rooted. There is an hour I will never get back.
But I'm definitely writing to them now. The chances of me getting a phone this week are minimal. And a month without a phone is unacceptable.
And I'm really really bored with without it
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Broken phone has now been collected. And letter of complaint has been sent.
Thanks everyone for the support and advice.
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I have had a horrible problem with HTC. My new desire z broke after 2 days of me having it. I sent it off to get repaired. When it came back it was scratched and dented so I complained. They agreed to replace the parts to say sorry. But it has been 5 weeks since I sent the phone to them and I still do not have it. This is because they have changed repair centers they said. It isn't good enough so after a lot of moaning they are sending me and incredible s which is good as I am not bothered about a hardware QWERTY. Still not good enough from HTC.

how did you even break the phone in 2 days? It sounds like you abused it somehow.

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Received my replacement handset today. Got it rooted and virtuous unity running. Wife calls me, volume is on loud but no sound comes out the speaker. Try some music and nothing.
Also the information label under the battery was almost falling off, the void sticker was missing and all of the visible screws looked like they had been unscrewed with an axe.
I now have to wait for a courier to collect the broken phone and wait for them to ship me another replacement.
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That sucks
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sold nexus 4 yesterday in perfect condition, guy tells me today it's not working

Its been in perfect condition, its hard to believe it just stopped working
Only thing I can think of, I didn't update to kit Kat, did updating ever cause screen responsiveness for any of u? He updated and says its not working.
Telling me there's a crack on the screen when I gave it to him in perfect condition
What should I do? His stories really shady, he's asking for his money back, but I'm pretty sure he did something to make it stop working, either dropped it in snow or something because its been working perfectly, even showed it in front of him
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If he says its cracked and he took delivery in perfect condition . I'd say he's out of luck.
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Buyer's fault on this one. He should have checked the unit thoroughly before closing the deal. A crack is easily noticeable, he could have noticed it when you show him the unit, so why just now?
(btw, is it cash on delivery or shipping transaction?)

He checked it before he bought it, everything was working perfectly, he knows my address, I'm scared he'll call the cops and lie that I scammed him
Sorry for duplicate threads
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We met up, I posted the ad on kijiji, he came to my house to pick it up
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You may be held liable to a certain degree. If you say the phone was in 100% working order and was in mint condition without a scratch/crack and he inspected it himself finding nothing then it's his negligence. However, if the phone suddenly stopped working a day after, and suddenly "died" on him without him tempering with it, then you may be held responsible due to a innocent misrepresentation.
I have no reason to believe he is a crook and possibly switched your phone to a different already broken one, and is just looking to scam you. Not much people are that low, and hopefully you have some type of background knowledge of him before you did the exchange. If you have the IMEI Number/Seriel Number of your phone still, I'd ask him to send that information back to you to ensure it's the same phone.
The worst that can happen if he called the cops is you would have to give him his money back, and he can't press any charges on you due to the innocent misrepresentation tort.
edit: I don't think you should be concerned at all to be honest, you can try to help him if you're tech savvy and guide him through Odin his phone back to stock, but if its a hardware problem, it's most likely his fault for dropping it or something.

No it was in perfect condition, I showed it to him, I saw it before too, everything's working, he definitely did something to it, and yeah it was a teenager
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He just called again, asking if we could meet up today, but I'm at work, pretty sure he'll just show outside my house tomorrow even if I say no, what should I do?
I gave him literally a brand new nexus 4
And he's gonna give me a broken one back
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This is a tough call. I'm not sure how much he paid for the phone but it may be simpler just to refund the purchase price and eat the loss just to have peace of mind. If you take it back, make sure the imei matches the phone you sold.
How long did the buyer have the phone before contacting you?

if what you wrote is complete and real, then in that case, I would not give the money back to the person for these reasons.
1. worked when he bought it.
2. he inspected it, it was in mint condition, now it have a crack.
3. crack doesnt appear by magic.
tell him, if he want hes money back, then he have to give back the items in the exact same condition, thats mean, mint condition, without any crack or defect.

Of course what I wrote is real, and I've decided I'm not giving him his money back unless he gives the phone in the exact same condition I gave it, which was perfect
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Of course what I wrote is real, and I've decided I'm not giving him his money back unless he gives the phone in the exact same condition I gave it, which was perfect
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good decision! :good:

If he wants his money back and you refuse, there's nothing he can do except to take you to court. The police has no reason to deal with this kind of issues (except to try to persuade you to settle it because the other guy is bugging them). Personal safety however is another issue entirely. If he keeps on calling you or even show up at your doorstep, you can call the police to and tell them that you feel threatened by his actions. Unfortunately, if he does decide to attack you, you are going to have to learn to defence yourself. Therefore, next time don't give anyone your home or work address.

this is a cautionary tale of how to (and not to) sell a phone. i go through phones like underwear, and i can tell you that covering your own butt is the easiest way to avoid these unfortunate situations.
first off: NEVER have someone to your home. you never know who you're dealing with. secondly, make sure that the person fully checks out the phone, and is completely satisfied with what they are buying BEFORE they leave. unfortunately, a lot of people get buyer's remorse, and expect you to just refund the money to them, despite you selling an item that was properly described.
when selling a phone, i always make sure to overstate any possible problems, even if they don't really exist. i feel it's better to be as up front as possible. that way the persons are usually surprised at how much better the phone actually is.
i just sold an unlocked phone to a guy a few weeks ago, and was with him for ten minutes as he went over the phone. i plainly asked him to make sure if he had any problems now, since this was a no refund sale. he said all was good, and paid me. well, five hours later i get a text from him saying the phone doesn't work, and he wants his money back. it was an unlocked g2, and he said it wasn't getting any data with his tmobile plan.
i reminded him that he had looked at it for a good while, and assured me he had no problems with it. at this point, there was nothing i could do. apparently he had checked out the phone with the wifi on, and hadn't tried the data plan. i also did all the requisite checking on google (something he wouldn't do himself) and had discovered that all he had to do was call tmobile and get the proper apn settings so that he would get the data working.
from that point he claimed he was a moron, and that he didn't even know how to do that. after i laughed at him for that response, i reminded him to take a deep breath, absorb what i had told him, and to fix the problem himself. it was not my responsibility to show him how to do that, and the extra time i took to find this out was above and beyond anything i should have been expected to do for this sale.
he eventually stopped texting me, and i assume he went ahead and made the adjustments on his own.
but i would NEVER have someone meet me in my home, for various reasons; but the main one is what you are looking at now.
from now on (after my last experience) i am going to make the person sign a contract stating that the phone was sold as described, and that they fully checked it out before buying it. i know there are shady people out there...those that buy, and sell. you need to cover your bases as best you can.

I think you be fine.
No one would believe him.
Who in the right mind would've purchase a phone with a crack in the first place.
The screen is unresponsive AFTER he updated.
It was perfectly fine before the update. So obviously he screwed up with the update.
So he should not be seeking support from you. Is not your fault.
Is a private sale, there no refund or warranty.
But hope you learn something. Don't use your home or even workplace as a place to meet up random stranger to buy/sell.
Like what other said: Safety first, call police if you see him linger around your place!

subxero123 said:
Of course what I wrote is real, and I've decided I'm not giving him his money back unless he gives the phone in the exact same condition I gave it, which was perfect
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As everyone else said, there's nothing really person could do...BUT most importantly....DONT EVER EVER invite strangers to your place....I am sure there are lots of Tim Hortons around where u can meetup in Brampton.
If you had images on your ad that you might have sent him you might be lucky...but even if u dont...no biggy...for him to convince anyone that u sold him cracked screen without him knowing is just plain dumb n stupid on his part.....
all u have to deal with is...him nagging u at ur place (phone/text etc u can block through various apps), except for that u should be good. dont be scared about it. u could tell him things as is & not to bother u again!

Do not give back the money. I wouldnt care much if he knows where i live. Big deal anyway. When you gave the phone it was in perfect condition and was working. Why did he bother messing with the software if he is noob? Ask him to give the phone back in the exact condition as it was sold and he can have his money back. If not, avoid him. Let him call the cops; in fact let him call the army. Its not your fault. Last year, I remember an idiot broke my tablet and he was trying to blame it on me. Btw, you don't have to pick up his call right away; just tell him to call you only certain time in a day as you are working.
If I see him around my place; I would just call the cops and explain the situation.
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Is Nexus Protect needed?

I've been thinking about it, and I use my phones with cases and screen protectors, any other thing that can go wrong is manufacturing and that's covered by regular warranty.
Also paying a $79 deductible if anything happens.. I'm just wondering if you guys would recommend me getting it.
Did you guys get it and why?

I did not buy it but probably would in hindsight after seeing the problems people are having with the soft chasis.
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I got it because with the size of the phone I'm not going to use a case. The Nexus 6P feels smaller in my pocket naked than my Nexus 5 did with a Slim Armor case.

I didn't get it, and while I'm still a little on the fence, its ultimately a gamble against yourself and I don't think I'd get it if given the chance. If you're careful with your phone you'll likely end up not needing it. The way I see it, if you're careful with your phone and case/screen protector it then chances are at least good that you won't crack your screen....and if you do, it very well may be that it's far enough down the road that buying a new (or near new) one from a third party wouldn't be THAT much more than the $200 you would have already spent on the Nexus protect plan.
Additionally, yes manufacturing defects could appear in year 2, but if they're that glaring of an issue then year 1 is the more than likely timeframe in which they will pop up. Finally, if nothing else you could always just buy a squaretrade warranty or something similar. It's not THAT much different in price....

i got it bc $89 versus the $650 plus taxes plus overnight shiping my phone cost, it seemed a drop in the bucket. plus i work in construction, ive actually dropped a phone off a 12 ft ladder before, luckily it was in an otterbox defender atm.

Just as an FYI I asked a rep and they said that you can't retroactively buy it. It has to be with the purchase of a nexus. So if you have your phone already you couldn't get it even it you wanted. (I might call and fight this)

for people that missed out on the Nexus Protect, Squaretrade is pretty close. I called them up for a deal although I heard several Promo codes can be found, $89 for 2 years and $75 per dedcutible.

theycallmerayj said:
Just as an FYI I asked a rep and they said that you can't retroactively buy it. It has to be with the purchase of a nexus. So if you have your phone already you couldn't get it even it you wanted. (I might call and fight this)
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I think it is a excellent idea that you can only purchase at the point of purchase with the phone. This will cut down on insurance fraud drastically. Please understand, I am not saying this is you. All these years as an XDA member, I have seen numerous posts from members asking if they can add their carrier's insurance to their plan AFTER they broke their phone for obvious reasons.
All of the information of Nexus Protect was posted on the website during the Google presentation. While ordering the phone, a conscious decision had to be made to accept or decline Nexus Protect.
Maybe as a compromise, Nexus Protect could be available to customers up to 30 days after phone purchase, like SquareTrade? This way a customer could try the phone out and see if they will be keeping it, and not lost the Nexus Protect payment if they returned the phone.

Lol

PaisanNYC said:
I think it is a excellent idea that you can only purchase at the point of purchase with the phone. This will cut down on insurance fraud drastically. Please understand, I am not saying this is you. All these years as an XDA member, I have seen numerous posts from members asking if they can add their carrier's insurance to their plan AFTER they broke their phone for obvious reasons.
All of the information of Nexus Protect was posted on the website during the Google presentation. While ordering the phone, a conscious decision had to be made to accept or decline Nexus Protect.
Maybe as a compromise, Nexus Protect could be available to customers up to 30 days after phone purchase, like SquareTrade? This way a customer could try the phone out and see if they will be keeping it, and not lost the Nexus Protect payment if they returned the phone.
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30 days would be nice....Verizon lets you add insurance within 30 days of purchase (obviously you cant buy the N6P as a carrier phone though)
One could almost make an argument it should be like the extended warranty on a car: can be purchased anytime during the original factory warranty. Even if its higher priced after X amount of time after initial purchase, they should still allow people to buy it.
There is always the chance for fraud....see how easily one can get an RMA unit sometime in the next year for something that "accidentally" happened. Especially something like broken camera glass that is spontaneously occurring, or could occur if you dropped the unit then claimed it did it all by itself.

Just had Google support call me. My device is processing for my 1st RMA; my rep told me that there is no way to add Nexus protect unless I return the device and add Nexus protect to my original order.
That sucks
On the plus side, Google's support is awesome. I've never had such a good series of tech support calls. +1 to Google for that!

Akasa Fox said:
Just had Google support call me. My device is processing for my 1st RMA; my rep told me that there is no way to add Nexus protect unless I return the device and add Nexus protect to my original order.
That sucks
On the plus side, Google's support is awesome. I've never had such a good series of tech support calls. +1 to Google for that!
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Frankly I think Google needs to offer a week extension for those who want to purchase Nexus protect now that they have the device and the general reviews are in. If they had told me that the phone was twice as likely as other devices to break them I would have preached it upfront, ...I made the mistake of assuming that there phone was built to these standards of other Nexus and Android manufacturers. This is my first Huawei phone so I can only assume that any quality defects are reflective of their brand in general and not just this device. This is also a negative score for the other and in most cases smaller manufacturers trying to break into the US market.
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Yes this phone is the reason why Nexus protect was born.

For the past few days I've been doing the "table test" (putting the phone face down on a flat surface and seeing if it rocks), and up until tonight it sat flush with no wiggle at all. When I tried it tonight, there was a slight wiggle (4 different surfaces w/ case off). The phone is cased and I am super careful with it, and if this is happening after less than a week I can't imagine what would happen in the next 2 years. As hard as it was I made the decision to send it back (even with Nexus Protect already purchased). I would absolutely get Nexus Protect.

To the OP, I say get Nexus Protect or some kind of insurance. Better safe than sorry. I spent $650+ tax on a 126gb phone, usually when phones are newer the costs of replacement screens is insane. $200-400 just for a display assembly. So fixing it yourself is pricey if you break the screen. I replace phone screens for some phones, mostly iPhones because they are a little less complex, don't usually require any heat to remove. This is a phone I probably wouldn't attempt to repair myself and having someone repair it for you would probably be half the price of a new phone.
AndrasLOHF said:
I got it because with the size of the phone I'm not going to use a case. The Nexus 6P feels smaller in my pocket naked than my Nexus 5 did with a Slim Armor case.
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I got the Spigen rugged armor case for now and it's actually really nice. It hugs the phone and doesn't make it seem larger really. The case is a little slick, but not as slick as the phone.

PaisanNYC said:
I think it is a excellent idea that you can only purchase at the point of purchase with the phone. This will cut down on insurance fraud drastically. Please understand, I am not saying this is you. All these years as an XDA member, I have seen numerous posts from members asking if they can add their carrier's insurance to their plan AFTER they broke their phone for obvious reasons.
All of the information of Nexus Protect was posted on the website during the Google presentation. While ordering the phone, a conscious decision had to be made to accept or decline Nexus Protect.
Maybe as a compromise, Nexus Protect could be available to customers up to 30 days after phone purchase, like SquareTrade? This way a customer could try the phone out and see if they will be keeping it, and not lost the Nexus Protect payment if they returned the phone.
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I was in such a rush to order my 6P and get the device on the first wave that I didn't even think about clicking Nexus Protect. I got in touch with customer service and they would not let me add it after my order was in, even in the pre-order stage. Bummer but yes it would have been better if you could add it on as an after thought.
I really regret not having Nexus Protect, seems like the way to go on this.

Crazy Homeless Guy said:
If they had told me that the phone was twice as likely as other devices to break them I would have preached it upfront, ...I made the mistake of assuming that there phone was built to these standards of other Nexus and Android manufacturers.
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Twice as likely? That's just trolling. The 6P may possibly be the best Nexus phone produced, and I owned all of them with the exception of the Nexus S. Look at the other XDA forums for past Nexus devices and then come back and make the same statement. I've seen more complaints (and still do) in the Moto Nexus 6 forums.

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Twice as likely? That's just trolling. The 6P may possibly be the best Nexus phone produced, and I owned all of them with the exception of the Nexus S. Look at the other XDA forums for past Nexus devices and then come back and make the same statement. I've seen more complaints (and still do) in the Moto Nexus 6 forums.
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So the other Nexus phones bend within the first week from pocket wear and tear and have random cracking camera covers?
At this point it isn't if the phone breaks but when will it break. I am hoping to get 6 months of use before I start having durability problems.
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Seeing all the issues, end with the deductible, I'd buy it in a jiffy if it were available here across the pond.

The fact that they'll express you a new phone like the next day makes it worth it for me. Being without a phone for even a day can be costly for me. And since it's google, I actually expect that they would perform as stated if not better.