If I unlock my boot loader and root my phone and flash AOKP, with the stock kernel, would my battery be the same? My battery is perfect right now and I don't want a different kernel installed that could change my battery life...any thoughts?
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pretty sure battery will only get better. go for it.
FYI: dont get it mixed up. you dont need "root access" to flash AOKP. root is independent of flashing a rom, it isnt a pre-requisite.
zephiK said:
pretty sure battery will only get better. go for it.
FYI: dont get it mixed up. you dont need "root access" to flash AOKP. root is independent of flashing a rom, it isnt a pre-requisite.
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Hmm sounds cool...I really want AOKP cause of all the customization but I'm scared I'm going to brick my phone trying to unlock the boot loader or something
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zephiK said:
pretty sure battery will only get better. go for it.
FYI: dont get it mixed up. you dont need "root access" to flash AOKP. root is independent of flashing a rom, it isnt a pre-requisite.
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But you can't flash a custom ROM until after you root..........
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But you can't flash a custom ROM until after you root..........
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Uh, yeah you can.
I do this for every of my Nexus phone
1. put zips on my phone [rom, gapps, kernel]
2. fastboot oem unlock
3. fastboot flash recovery <twrp or cwr>.img
4. boot into recovery
5. flash custom rom
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no root. root comes from my custom rom.
zephiK said:
Uh, yeah you can.
I do this for every of my Nexus phone
1. put zips on my phone [rom, gapps, kernel]
2. fastboot oem unlock
3. fastboot flash recovery <twrp or cwr>.img
4. boot into recovery
5. flash custom rom
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no root. root comes from my custom rom.
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Interesting. I've always flashed an insecure boot.img first, I suppose you are right. Oh well, I stand corrected.
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Interesting. I've always flashed an insecure boot.img first, I suppose you are right. Oh well, I stand corrected.
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Oh I've never done that method. Isn't that the method of obtaining root without unlocking your bootloader or something? I never done that approach.
Root is needed if you wish to flash your recovery via a app such as Clockwork Recovery (flashing it with ROM Manager) or using Goo Manager to flash TWRP.
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Oh I've never done that method. Isn't that the method of obtaining root without unlocking your bootloader or something? I never done that approach.
Root is needed if you wish to flash your recovery via a app such as Clockwork Recovery (flashing it with ROM Manager) or using Goo Manager to flash TWRP.
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No it is the method of flashing recovery through an app as you mentioned. I don't believe there is a way to root without unlocking the bootloader. Either way, I fastboot oem unlock before I do anything else, so I wouldn't really know haha. Either way, to each his own sir.
Happy new year!
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No it is the method of flashing recovery through an app as you mentioned. I don't believe there is a way to root without unlocking the bootloader. Either way, I fastboot oem unlock before I do anything else, so I wouldn't really know haha. Either way, to each his own sir.
Happy new year!
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Same here. I get my phone, first thing I do is oem unlock that way I can always back up my apps before I jump ship to a custom ROM.
On the Galaxy Nexus there was a way, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1894717 but it was done through a exploit.
happy new years to you as well
Soooo is it possible to hard brick a Nexus? Or can you only soft brick it?
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Soooo is it possible to hard brick a Nexus? Or can you only soft brick it?
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Close to impossible to hard brick a Nexus. Some people come close to it because they don't know what they're doing and often mistaken it to be a soft-brick.
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Close to impossible to hard brick a Nexus. Some people come close to it because they don't know what they're doing and often mistaken it to be a soft-brick.
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So I take it it's a lot harder than a Galaxy S III....
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So I take it it's a lot harder than a Galaxy S III....
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Never used a Galaxy S3, so I can't comment on that but I do know one benefit of Nexus devices it to have the ability to fastboot. Fastboot is your best friend (it helps you restore back to stock etc etc)
Not a huge fan of Samsung's Odin System (Samsung's version of Fastboot).
Honestly, I don't think that you can brick this phone unless you don't read at all and just do something really stupid which at that point you deserve to be bricked
a Nexus is pretty unbrickable unless someone is very dumb or simply a hardware bug ****s the device up. If anyone bricks this device or any Nexus I'll award him idiot of the year trophy. -Franco
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Never used a Galaxy S3, so I can't comment on that but I do know one benefit of Nexus devices it to have the ability to fastboot. Fastboot is your best friend (it helps you restore back to stock etc etc)
Not a huge fan of Samsung's Odin System (Samsung's version of Fastboot)
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Ohh...well there were a lot of people complaining about hard bricking in the GSIII forums so I assume Nexus devices are harder to brick...and Fastboot is part of adv or something isn't it?
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Ohh...well there were a lot of people complaining about hard bricking in the GSIII forums so I assume Nexus devices are harder to brick...and Fastboot is part of adv or something isn't it?
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They are harder to brick. The usual 'brick' threads for the N4 are cases of soft bricks which people are using the term wrongly when it is a soft brick and not a hard brick. There's the occasional "red LED" which I never encountered but you can search on your own about that.
Part of adv? what does that mean? Fastboot is at it's very deep level same as bootloader mode
This is why I never endorse the toolkit. People don't know how to use fastboot and tend to get themselves in icky situations because they got a free ride.
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They are harder to brick. The usual 'brick' threads for the N4 are cases of soft bricks which people are using the term wrongly when it is a soft brick and not a hard brick. There's the occasional "red LED" which I never encountered but you can search on your own about that.
Part of adv? what does that mean? Fastboot is at it's very deep level same as bootloader mode
This is why I never endorse the toolkit. People don't know how to use fastboot and tend to get themselves in icky situations because they got a free ride.
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I meant adb sorry auto correct
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I meant adb sorry auto correct
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Fastboot and adb are separate. Every phone has adb.
ADB = Android Device Bridge.
Every Android phone has adb.
Fastboot is deep down to it's bootloader level. Not all phones have fastboot.
zephiK said:
Fastboot and adb are separate. Every phone has adb.
ADB = Android Device Bridge.
Every Android phone has adb.
Fastboot is deep down to it's bootloader level. Not all phones have fastboot.
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Ohhh okay thanks I'll go look up how to unlock the boot loader and root then
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Ohhh okay thanks I'll go look up how to unlock the boot loader and root then
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1972508 is a guide to get you started if you have any ongoing questions. Feel free to post in this thread and I (or others) will help you out. Ask anything you may be confused about
Yeah I actually have 2 questions. 1. Will re-locking the bootloader erase everything? 2. How do I back up my phone?
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I just wanted to know, I unlocked the bootloader on my atrix 4G on 2.3.6 but I'm having random restarts and I just wanna revert back to stock and see if that will fix it. Do I just find and flash the 2.3.6 sbf via rsd? Any help is greatly appreciated, I've spent hours looking for an answer but no one seems to know or want to help.
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no you cant relock the phone that is permanent may i suggest flashing a diffeent rom or kernal or radio a bad flash pf any of thoughs can cause reboots pm me and ill get ya str8end out
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no you cant relock the phone that is permanent may i suggest flashing a diffeent rom or kernal or radio a bad flash pf any of thoughs can cause reboots pm me and ill get ya str8end out
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Flash a fruit cake if you can find a link for it since they are all dead and that will get you to stock but you will still be unlocked.
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Flash a fruit cake if you can find a link for it since they are all dead and that will get you to stock but you will still be unlocked.
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That's another problem, with all the links dead I can't find anything. Idc about being unlocked forever, as long as I can hopefully flash something to make this phone stop restarting by itself.
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That's another problem, with all the links dead I can't find anything. Idc about being unlocked forever, as long as I can hopefully flash something to make this phone stop restarting by itself.
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I followed these steps & got a locked bootloader & un-rooted atrix back.
Disclaimer - I am not responsible if you scew up
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I followed these steps & got a locked bootloader & un-rooted atrix back.
Disclaimer - I am not responsible if you scew up
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That's basically just flashing 2.3.6 sbf through rsd, if someone else can confirm that this works then I will give it a whirl.
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there's no known way to "relock" the bootloader,the only thing available is that you won't see the "unlocked" at the top,but bootloader still will be unlocked.
You could have just spent a couple of minutes and looked through the threads.
Here a few threads regarding using RSD, two of them from just a couple days ago:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1549599
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1552145
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1552843
I have commented in all of them because I have used RSD in the past. But PLEASE, read/research as much as possible before attempting anything.
Also, "Search" does work:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?searchid=8688299
jstrayy said:
I just wanted to know, I unlocked the bootloader on my atrix 4G on 2.3.6 but I'm having random restarts and I just wanna revert back to stock and see if that will fix it. Do I just find and flash the 2.3.6 sbf via rsd? Any help is greatly appreciated, I've spent hours looking for an answer but no one seems to know or want to help.
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jstrayy said:
That's basically just flashing 2.3.6 sbf through rsd, if someone else can confirm that this works then I will give it a whirl.
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live4nyy said:
You could have just spent a couple of minutes and looked through the threads.
Here a few threads regarding using RSD, two of them from just a couple days ago:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1549599
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1552145
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1552843
I have commented in all of them because I have used RSD in the past. But PLEASE, read/research as much as possible before attempting anything.
Also, "Search" does work:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?searchid=8688299
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I've spent days looking for an answer but always failed to find exactly what I needed. so call me dumb or a noob, but everything I found had dead links. thanks a lot for the help though
Well, I can help you out finding things if links are broken. I was mainly commenting on the discussion of using RSD but if you are having issues with dead-end links I can look around as well. Can you be more specific in what you're needing? Did you want "Factory"-stock or stock as in just back to Blur? Have you tried a fruitcake?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1163009
jstrayy said:
I've spent days looking for an answer but always failed to find exactly what I needed. so call me dumb or a noob, but everything I found had dead links. thanks a lot for the help though
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Well, I can help you out finding things if links are broken. I was mainly commenting on the discussion of using RSD but if you are having issues with dead-end links I can look around as well. Can you be more specific in what you're needing? Did you want "Factory"-stock or stock as in just back to Blur? Have you tried a fruitcake?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1163009
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I found the 2.3.6 stock sbf, I wanted to get as stock as possible to see if it would fix whatever was wrong with it. It hasn't restarted yet, so I just have my fingers crossed
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I did the same thing. I kept having Sleep Of Death and random reboots, so I flashed the 4.5.141 sbf. Everything was fine. If I do the unlock with pudding the SODs return. I don't like the stock ROM and Motoblur, but I can't flash anything via fastboot only after I do the unlock procedure, even if it says I'm already unlocked at the end. Any help would be appreciated.
eNorby said:
I did the same thing. I kept having Sleep Of Death and random reboots, so I flashed the 4.5.141 sbf. Everything was fine. If I do the unlock with pudding the SODs return. I don't like the stock ROM and Motoblur, but I can't flash anything via fastboot only after I do the unlock procedure, even if it says I'm already unlocked at the end. Any help would be appreciated.
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I unlocked on 2.3.6 with the unlock tool, and yea those sleeps of death were a pain in the a**. Seems to have gone away after flashing the sbf, one question though, can I reflash cwm through ROM manager and try to install a different ROM still (since it should still be unlocked?)
Btw I love xda and thank you guys for the help!
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I unlocked on 2.3.6 with the unlock tool, and yea those sleeps of death were a pain in the a**. Seems to have gone away after flashing the sbf, one question though, can I reflash cwm through ROM manager and try to install a different ROM still (since it should still be unlocked?)
Btw I love xda and thank you guys for the help!
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I tried that. It gives Failed To Boot 2 if you try to load up CWM. It still acts as if it what locked.
eNorby said:
I tried that. It gives Failed To Boot 2 if you try to load up CWM. It still acts as if it what locked.
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You tried to flash cwm through ROM manager?
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You tried to flash cwm through ROM manager?
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Yes. It said it flashed ok, but when trying to reboot into recovery it says Failed to boot 2, Entering RSD mode. But I went into fastboot and did fastboot reboot, so it didn't brick or anything like that.
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Yes. It said it flashed ok, but when trying to reboot into recovery it says Failed to boot 2, Entering RSD mode. But I went into fastboot and did fastboot reboot, so it didn't brick or anything like that.
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That's weird... when I tried to do it, I got an android with an exclamation mark but I haven't reflashed cwm yet
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Yes. It said it flashed ok, but when trying to reboot into recovery it says Failed to boot 2, Entering RSD mode. But I went into fastboot and did fastboot reboot, so it didn't brick or anything like that.
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When you do fastboot can you keep scrolling down to select android recovery? You have to press volume up upon seeing android recovery. Just wanna make sure, Idk your level of android savvy so don't take offense lol
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When you do fastboot can you keep scrolling down to select android recovery? You have to press volume up upon seeing android recovery. Just wanna make sure, Idk your level of android savvy so don't take offense lol
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Yes it's there. And I don't think I would of risked flashing sbf's and stuff if I didn't have a clue what i was doing
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That's weird... when I tried to do it, I got an android with an exclamation mark but I haven't reflashed cwm yet
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the android with the exclamation mark is the stock recovery as far as i know
From what I have seen in the forums, when flashing the SBF you have to, at the very least, redo the fastboot commands for unlocking > "fastboot oem unlock". I have used RSD three times and I always just re-flashed pudding. Whether or not "pudding" is necessary to run the commands I have no idea.
eNorby said:
Yes. It said it flashed ok, but when trying to reboot into recovery it says Failed to boot 2, Entering RSD mode. But I went into fastboot and did fastboot reboot, so it didn't brick or anything like that.
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That's weird... when I tried to do it, I got an android with an exclamation mark but I haven't reflashed cwm yet
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Whats the best way to root and install cwm on my nexus 7. I see so many different ways, some conflicting some not. Its hard to know whats the best way.
the best way is the "right" way.. fastboot oem unlock, flash your custom recovery via fastboot, flash either the su binaries or a custom rom in your new recovery, then reboot and profit.
Also there is one more method -using the SEARCH function
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nikufellow said:
Also there is one more method -using the SEARCH function
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As per my post, the search was wide spread. So that's why i asked....... Sorry to bother YOU
i have to admit, in this case a search would make it even more confusing.
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As per my post, the search was wide spread. So that's why i asked....... Sorry to bother YOU
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No worries brother hope you got your answer though feel free to ask more queries and welcome to root club
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simms22 said:
the best way is the "right" way.. fastboot oem unlock, flash your custom recovery via fastboot, flash either the su binaries or a custom rom in your new recovery, then reboot and profit.
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This, for sure. Rootkits promote dependency. Fastboot will save you every time. Welcome to the Nexus 7 club!
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My phone wont boot! It only boots into the bootloader and recovery I have CWM installed please help me!
If you can get into fastboot, simply follow this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2010312
Yarox said:
If you can get into fastboot, simply follow this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2010312
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Is using a Toolkit inadvisable?
Not unless you want to learn how android tinkering really works.
Toolkits are just more difficult to get out of trouble of. You'll then have to learn how to tinker anyway so why not learn that first?
If you follow efrant's guides you will have come a long way.
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Not unless you want to learn how android tinkering really works.
Toolkits are just more difficult to get out of trouble of. You'll then have to learn how to tinker anyway so why not learn that first?
If you follow efrant's guides you will have come a long way.
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Thing is I'm in a hotel at 5:30am trying to fix my phone! I tried using a toolkit to flash stock google files and it didnt work I received a bunch of errors. I am now downloading a stock ROM hopefully will be able to push the files to it then flash like that. I honestly just want my phone up and running again.
Google pulled the factory images so Toolkit probably can't download them.
You can download image file from here
http://www.randomphantasmagoria.com/firmware/nexus-4/occam/
To toolkit or not to toolkit is your own choice
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Thing is I'm in a hotel at 5:30am trying to fix my phone! I tried using a toolkit to flash stock google files and it didnt work I received a bunch of errors. I am now downloading a stock ROM hopefully will be able to push the files to it then flash like that. I honestly just want my phone up and running again.
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Don't use a toolkit man. You're already in enough trouble and I can't post enough how imperative it is to know these things. There are so many user errors made because people are flashing and doing things without knowing what's going on.
I feel that toolkit is just awful. It's letting people cheat. Flashing roms and kernels are a reward you get for passing the test on doing a simple fast boot oem unlock and then flashing a recovery.
Just do what the people above said in regards to efrants guide. Follow it step by step and you'll be back on stock rom.
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Don't use a toolkit man. You're already in enough trouble and I can't post enough how imperative it is to know these things. There are so many user errors made because people are flashing and doing things without knowing what's going on.
I feel that toolkit is just awful. It's letting people cheat. Flashing roms and kernels are a reward you get for passing the test on doing a simple fast boot oem unlock and then flashing a recovery.
Just do what the people above said in regards to efrants guide. Follow it step by step and you'll be back on stock rom.
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The problem is people don't want to spend five minutes learning the easiest fastboot commands in the world and just want everything done for them.
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zephiK said:
Don't use a toolkit man. You're already in enough trouble and I can't post enough how imperative it is to know these things. There are so many user errors made because people are flashing and doing things without knowing what's going on.
I feel that toolkit is just awful. It's letting people cheat. Flashing roms and kernels are a reward you get for passing the test on doing a simple fast boot oem unlock and then flashing a recovery.
Just do what the people above said in regards to efrants guide. Follow it step by step and you'll be back on stock rom.
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The problem is people don't want to spend five minutes learning the easiest fastboot commands in the world and just want everything done for them.
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I feel like I need to re-post my "Toolkit" thread on the N4 board soon...
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The problem is people don't want to spend five minutes learning the easiest fastboot commands in the world and just want everything done for them.
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Then the other problem comes when they come in the forums and starts complaining on why their phone didn't boot up. Or they stupidly send in a RMA request pretending that they don't know what happened to their phone.
If people can't spend those 5 minutes learning a simple command, not even learning it but preparing the environment for fastboot. Which is so easy because you follow a step by step, it's a checklist for what you need to do. Then they shouldn't be flashing anything. If they have the time to look for a rom and kernel then they have the time to do that fastboot.
Eventually they will have to do it so they should stop avoiding the inevitable and learn it before they do it. But I'm sure there's a percentage out there who doesn't and uses the toolkit without ever getting into problems but I'm sure a number of them are quite rare.
@el daddy: yeah I saw that thread on gn. Quite nice and I always felt that way just never made a post about it (actually just talked about it right above about rma... Refers back to your non Nexus point on why they're more strict) I'd say go for it man. Can't stress this enough, wish that toolkit would just be banned but it won't be.
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This is be the first time for me to use a high end smartphone.
May I know what are the things I should do with my new baby?
Things like Dos and Donts before anything bad happen. A list of must have useful apps and description will be much appreciated.
Thanks!
PS. I heard Titanium backup is best to keep your phone safe. Any comments?
Nexusaint said:
This is be the first time for me to use a high end smartphone.
May I know what are the things I should do with my new baby?
Things like Dos and Donts before anything bad happen. A list of must have useful apps and description will be much appreciated.
Thanks!
PS. I heard Titanium backup is best to keep your phone safe. Any comments?
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Men titanium its a backup program,wich kind of safe are you saying?
To falls a good case,and to bad flash and things like that i recommend a lot of reading before flashing!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2010338
Do NOT FLASH any Nexus 7 kernel into your Nexus 4. One fella here already bricked a NEXUS device (Nexus device are very difficult to brick to how open they are).
Other than that, do whatever you want with the phone. It's an Android, and it's a Nexus.
zevim2005 said:
Men titanium its a backup program,wich kind of safe are you saying?
To falls a good case,and to bad flash and things like that i recommend a lot of reading before flashing!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2010338
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Do NOT FLASH any Nexus 7 kernel into your Nexus 4. One fella here already bricked a NEXUS device (Nexus device are very difficult to brick to how open they are).
Other than that, do whatever you want with the phone. It's an Android, and it's a Nexus.
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Hi, zevim and poisionwolf,
Safe as in in case corrupt or lost of data, I can restore my phone. Thanks for the links.
I dont really know what to do with thte phone. Is it necessary to root for Nexus 4? Got major improvement for battery life and performance?
Nexusaint said:
Hi, zevim and poisionwolf,
Safe as in in case corrupt or lost of data, I can restore my phone. Thanks for the links.
I dont really know what to do with thte phone. Is it necessary to root for Nexus 4? Got major improvement for battery life and performance?
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If you're new to the whole android scene....I strongly recommend that you just use the phone as you got it for 2 months FIRST.
While that's going on, read up through the forums, etc.
Just use it as it is first. =)
Id say the first thing you should do is get a case or a back film protector.
Then just read carefully if you want to start flashing. Read read and read again.
First few things to do with your phone
1. Charge it
2. Turn it on
3. Set up
4. Download apps you might need from play store (this will change over time )
5. Its a phone ffs use it as it is for few weeks. See what you like and what you don't. If you don't like something check if there is an app FIRST that will solve your problem . If you can't find an app think if its worth messing with the phone for one single tweak, unless you have found few things that bug you .
Stock android is nearly perfect and can do most/all of the things for normal user. Even customisation doesn't require root in most cases
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Unlock the bootloader before you do anything on the phone. Unlocking it wipes all data, so best to do it when there's nothing on there anyway. Then it leaves you open to easily root in the future.
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Buy a case. No need for a screen protector.
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Don't use a toolkit.
steviewevie said:
Unlock the bootloader before you do anything on the phone. Unlocking it wipes all data, so best to do it when there's nothing on there anyway. Then it leaves you open to easily root in the future.
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Thanks guys for all the suggestions.
I read a bit about the bootloader. Unlocking it so that I can use fastboot is it? What are the specific benefits?
zephiK said:
Don't use a toolkit.
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why? I checked several topics and the easy way to root is using toolkit afaik.
Nexusaint said:
why? I checked several topics and the easy way to root is using toolkit afaik.
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Because you don't learn anything. If something goes wrong you'll have no idea how to fix it. If you want more info, check my signature.
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El Daddy said:
Because you don't learn anything. If something goes wrong you'll have no idea how to fix it. If you want more info, check my signature.
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Listen to this guy.
estallings15 said:
Listen to this guy.
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im with you
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El Daddy said:
Because you don't learn anything. If something goes wrong you'll have no idea how to fix it. If you want more info, check my signature.
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thanks sensei. will heed ur advice.
Total noob and you are telling him to root ?
When he ****s up something you will tell him off for not reading ....
He doesn't even know what fastboot is ....
To OP
Do not root do not mod or anything that might mess up your phone.
Use it as is in that time read read read .
When you learn/know what fast boot ,adb, boot loader and other stuff is than come back
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zephiK said:
Don't use a toolkit.
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So how do you root the phone to flash custom ROMs?
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MattSkeet said:
Total noob and you are telling him to root ?
When he ****s up something you will tell him off for not reading ....
He doesn't even know what fastboot is ....
To OP
Do not root do not mod or anything that might mess up your phone.
Use it as is in that time read read read .
When you learn/know what fast boot ,adb, boot loader and other stuff is than come back
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Chill out, you've got a point but there's no need for the language..
Crisisx1 said:
So how do you root the phone to flash custom ROMs?
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Easiest way I find it to either flash a custom recovery, or just boot from one and flash superSU.zip.
I installed root from twrp when it offerd for me, what do i do now to get rid of it?
Use the unsu.zip file that is in the original SU thread. Just flash that and it should get rid of it!
gman88667733 said:
Use the unsu.zip file that is in the original SU thread. Just flash that and it should get rid of it!
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my device is not booting after installing the twrp root and now i think its stuck.
shotgun10ga said:
my device is not booting after installing the twrp root and now i think its stuck.
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Hmm, can you reboot to bootloader? If so, use Nexus Root Toolkit to flash stock and unbrick and start from there. Never install the SU that twrp suggests!!
@twrp, please fix this! its like a accident waiting to happen. I almost did this myself so many times.
gman88667733 said:
Hmm, can you reboot to bootloader? If so, use Nexus Root Toolkit to flash stock and unbrick and start from there. Never install the SU that twrp suggests!!
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He should learn how to use fastboot and do it properly without a tool kit. Tool kits lead to nothing but problems.
This is to OP.
YOU really need to stop messing with you're phone and learn what you're doing before you actually brick you're phone. What you have right now is not a brick and is incredibly easy to fix for someone who knows what they're doing. Do some reading and learning or you're going to end up with a fancy paperweight.
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toknitup420 said:
He should learn how to use fastboot and do it properly without a tool kit. Tool kits lead to nothing but problems.
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I understand what you are saying, but the toolkit is good if you are really stuck and are unsure of what to do. I do agree that learning the correct fastboot techniques is the best idea though!!
toknitup420 said:
He should learn how to use fastboot and do it properly without a tool kit. Tool kits lead to nothing but problems.
This is to OP.
YOU really need to stop messing with you're phone and learn what you're doing before you actually brick you're phone. What you have right now is not a brick and is incredibly easy to fix for someone who knows what they're doing. Do some reading and learning or you're going to end up with a fancy paperweight.
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can you link me to something that will help me fix it? and btw can i flash a factory image thats newer than mine?
gman88667733 said:
I understand what you are saying, but the toolkit is good if you are really stuck and are unsure of what to do. I do agree that learning the correct fastboot techniques is the best idea though!!
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what is a video i can watch on how to do it?
shotgun10ga said:
can you link me to something that will help me fix it? and btw can i flash a factory image thats newer than mine?
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I've already told you to use @Heisenberg guide like 3 or 4 times. Everything you need is in there. Legit everything. No more threads. You need to practice and learn this stuff. I know I'm coming off like a prick. But you need to try to learn this stuff or you're going to screw yourself. The guide is right in the stickies section of Q&A.
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